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Posted: 9/26/2012 2:22:23 PM EST
A Cambridge professor has tackled the issue of spontaneous combustion – using belly pork.

Prof Brian J Ford is a research biologist and author of more than 30 books, most about cell biology and microscopy but he has turned his attention to the mechanisms behind why people ‘explode’.

He said in an article in New Scientist: “One minute they may be relaxing in a chair, the next they erupt into a fireball.

“Jets of blue fire shoot from their bodies like flames from a blowtorch, and within half an hour they are reduced to a pile of ash.
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The body creates acetone, which is highly flammable.

He added: “A range of conditions can produce ketosis, in which acetone is formed, including alcoholism, fat-free dieting, diabetes and even teething.

“So we marinated pork tissue in acetone, rather than ethanol.

“This was used to make scale models of humans, which we clothed and set alight.

“They burned to ash within half an hour.

“For the first time a feasible cause of human combustion has been experimentally demonstrated.”


http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21528786.500-big-burn-theory-why-humans-spontaneously-combust.html

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Link Posted: 9/26/2012 2:26:23 PM EST
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Link Posted: 9/26/2012 2:26:58 PM EST

Originally Posted By maleante:
A Cambridge professor has tackled the issue of spontaneous combustion – using belly pork.

Prof Brian J Ford is a research biologist and author of more than 30 books, most about cell biology and microscopy but he has turned his attention to the mechanisms behind why people ‘explode’.

He said in an article in New Scientist: "One minute they may be relaxing in a chair, the next they erupt into a fireball.

"Jets of blue fire shoot from their bodies like flames from a blowtorch, and within half an hour they are reduced to a pile of ash.
...
The body creates acetone, which is highly flammable.

He added: "A range of conditions can produce ketosis, in which acetone is formed, including alcoholism, fat-free dieting, diabetes and even teething.

"So we marinated pork tissue in acetone, rather than ethanol.

"This was used to make scale models of humans, which we clothed and set alight.

"They burned to ash within half an hour.

"For the first time a feasible cause of human combustion has been experimentally demonstrated.”


http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21528786.500-big-burn-theory-why-humans-spontaneously-combust.html

http://www.missfidget.com/?p=9548

I would be more surprised if by soaking something in acetone it didn't burn

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Link Posted: 9/26/2012 2:31:50 PM EST
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While it's cool, if the body ever achieved that percentage of acetone in solution the person would already be dead.


Exactly. The "researcher" is a dumbass.
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Link Posted: 9/26/2012 3:28:44 PM EST

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Wait, that's real?

Google "spontaneous human combustion" and look at the images. People sitting in chairs at home just erupt into flames and are consumed except for their lower legs and feet.

I don't think this guy has the whole answer. Other researchers have been able to burn up pig carcasses and maybe human cadavers by setting up an initial condition where a small fire triggered melting of fat, causing a candle wick kind of thing that gradually burned up the whole thing.


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Originally Posted By Burnsy87:
Wait, that's real?

Google "spontaneous human combustion" and look at the images. People sitting in chairs at home just erupt into flames and are consumed except for their lower legs and feet.

I don't think this guy has the whole answer. Other researchers have been able to burn up pig carcasses and maybe human cadavers by setting up an initial condition where a small fire triggered melting of fat, causing a candle wick kind of thing that gradually burned up the whole thing.



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So he's saying that something "marinated in acetone" accurately replicates the combustibility of living human tissue?



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Link Posted: 9/26/2012 3:46:17 PM EST
Originally Posted By Tango7:
While it's cool, if the body ever achieved that percentage of acetone in solution the person would already be dead.


And he deliberately ignited the pork using some outside source of flame/energy - whereas the cases of alleged "spontaneous human combustion" supposedly involve no external source of ignition.
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At least he didn't choke to death on someone else's vomit.

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Link Posted: 9/26/2012 3:48:27 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Burnsy87:
Wait, that's real?

Google "spontaneous human combustion" and look at the images. People sitting in chairs at home just erupt into flames and are consumed except for their lower legs and feet.

I don't think this guy has the whole answer. Other researchers have been able to burn up pig carcasses and maybe human cadavers by setting up an initial condition where a small fire triggered melting of fat, causing a candle wick kind of thing that gradually burned up the whole thing.



I will guarantee you no human has, or ever will, "just erupt into flames."


I saw a thing on this where a researcher duplicated the effect described above using pig carcasses. The idea is that somebody dies and the fat somehow gets ignited and burns very slowly at relatively low temperature.
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Originally Posted By Tango7:
While it's cool, if the body ever achieved that percentage of acetone in solution the person would already be dead.


And he deliberately ignited the pork using some outside source of flame/energy - whereas the cases of alleged "spontaneous human combustion" supposedly involve no external source of ignition.


Most are believed to be smokers, wrapped in a blanket(creating a wick effect and feeding the fire with liquefying human fat) who fell asleep with a lit cigarette.
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Link Posted: 9/26/2012 4:02:04 PM EST
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Originally Posted By Dumpster_Baby:

Originally Posted By Burnsy87:
Wait, that's real?

Google "spontaneous human combustion" and look at the images. People sitting in chairs at home just erupt into flames and are consumed except for their lower legs and feet.

I don't think this guy has the whole answer. Other researchers have been able to burn up pig carcasses and maybe human cadavers by setting up an initial condition where a small fire triggered melting of fat, causing a candle wick kind of thing that gradually burned up the whole thing.



I will guarantee you no human has, or ever will, "just erupt into flames."


But those dam vampires sure the hell do....


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thread makes me hungry




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Reminds me of the old Eddie Murphy(SNL) skit. "Bruthahs be catchin on fire."

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Link Posted: 9/26/2012 5:59:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Tango7:
While it's cool, if the body ever achieved that percentage of acetone in solution the person would already be dead.


Exactly. The "researcher" is a dumbass.


Maybe so––but I'm stopping the acetone baths like, RIGHT NOW!


Not me. Sounds like a bunch of new age hippie shit.

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Originally Posted By shack357:
Originally Posted By dbrowne1:
Originally Posted By Tango7:
While it's cool, if the body ever achieved that percentage of acetone in solution the person would already be dead.


And he deliberately ignited the pork using some outside source of flame/energy - whereas the cases of alleged "spontaneous human combustion" supposedly involve no external source of ignition.


Most are believed to be smokers, wrapped in a blanket(creating a wick effect and feeding the fire with liquefying human fat) who fell asleep with a lit cigarette.

Pretty much this, I don't remember a case were it didn't involve a smoker.
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As usual, I've been doing it wrong. A marinade? I've been using all different kinds of rubs, never could achieve ignition...

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there are many things that can create an exothermic reaction that can lead to open flame. the question is.. can the human body, in certain situations, create the environment needed for such a reaction?
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At least he didn't choke to death on someone else's vomit.



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So we are akin to pork belly soaked in acetone



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No.

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Originally Posted By WildApple:

I would be more surprised if by soaking something in acetone it didn't burn


Exactly. This study is such bullshit. No animal can make those concentrations.

Its been proven there is nothing spontaneous about the phenom and they recreated it with a non acetone soaked pic in a blanket. They found a murder victim who was mostly burned like a spontaneous human combustion victim adn it was determined the killer set her shirt on fire. The fat in her skin was like fuel and the cotton short was the wick. Its a wick effect and nothing spontaneous about it.

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I thought that they were all fat drunk people who fell asleep with a lit cigarette. The intoxicated sleep alllows them drop the cigarette just right and keeps them from waking up while the fat feeds the flame like an oil lamp.
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Originally Posted By maleante:
A Cambridge professor has tackled the issue of spontaneous combustion – using belly pork.

Prof Brian J Ford is a research biologist and author of more than 30 books, most about cell biology and microscopy but he has turned his attention to the mechanisms behind why people ‘explode’.

He said in an article in New Scientist: "One minute they may be relaxing in a chair, the next they erupt into a fireball.

"Jets of blue fire shoot from their bodies like flames from a blowtorch, and within half an hour they are reduced to a pile of ash.
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The body creates acetone, which is highly flammable.

He added: "A range of conditions can produce ketosis, in which acetone is formed, including alcoholism, fat-free dieting, diabetes and even teething.

"So we marinated pork tissue in acetone, rather than ethanol.

"This was used to make scale models of humans, which we clothed and set alight.

"They burned to ash within half an hour.

"For the first time a feasible cause of human combustion has been experimentally demonstrated.”


http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21528786.500-big-burn-theory-why-humans-spontaneously-combust.html

http://www.missfidget.com/?p=9548

I would be more surprised if by soaking something in acetone it didn't burn



No shit. The levels would be immense compared to someone in ketosis. I spent a year in ketosis once. Funny, I didn't burn, or ever feel like I had been "marinated in acetone"
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Link Posted: 9/26/2012 8:24:22 PM EST
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Originally Posted By Dumpster_Baby:

Originally Posted By Burnsy87:
Wait, that's real?

Google "spontaneous human combustion" and look at the images. People sitting in chairs at home just erupt into flames and are consumed except for their lower legs and feet.

I don't think this guy has the whole answer. Other researchers have been able to burn up pig carcasses and maybe human cadavers by setting up an initial condition where a small fire triggered melting of fat, causing a candle wick kind of thing that gradually burned up the whole thing.



I will guarantee you no human has, or ever will, "just erupt into flames."


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A more plausible explanation is that someone died with a cigarette in their mouth.
Cig dropped from their mouth onto a newspaper, or a cotton shirt.
Considering how many people die every day, and how many of those were smokers, odds are a few would go up in flames.

Has anyone evaluated the number of reported human combustion cases since the mandated switch to cigs that self extinguish?

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