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Posted: 9/2/2012 12:37:25 AM

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Directed by Sam Peckinpah, 1977. Very good movie Starring James Coburn. Did you know it's available to watch on youtube?
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Posted: 9/2/2012 1:15:02 AM
It's one of the very best WW2 movies, IMO - and I am always surprised at how many people have not seen it.

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Posted: 9/2/2012 1:15:51 AM
I found it in the cheap bin a year ago at Wally World............3.99.............excellent movie
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Posted: 9/2/2012 1:19:53 AM
Captain Kiesel: Steiner... is a myth. Men like him are our last hope... and in that sense, he is a truly dangerous man.
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Posted: 9/2/2012 1:25:18 AM
good movie
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Posted: 9/2/2012 1:29:59 AM
good movie. The book is good as well.
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Posted: 9/2/2012 1:30:54 AM
Very good movie. Always surprised it is not shown more,it is really well done.
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Posted: 9/2/2012 1:34:02 AM
...I will show you where the Iron Crosses grow.
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Posted: 9/2/2012 1:40:45 AM
Just bought it the other day. Great movie.
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Posted: 9/2/2012 1:46:15 AM
Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
It's one of the very best WW2 movies, IMO - and I am always surprised at how many people have not seen it.




Its one of the very best war movies ever made as far as I'm concerned.
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Posted: 9/2/2012 1:52:11 AM
"...a worthless piece of metal." One of Peckinpah's best.
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Posted: 9/2/2012 1:54:35 AM
Demarcation!
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Posted: 9/2/2012 1:55:21 AM
Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
It's one of the very best WW2 movies, IMO - and I am always surprised at how many people have not seen it.




Its one of the very best war movies ever made as far as I'm concerned.


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Posted: 9/2/2012 2:21:16 AM
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Demarcation!


I remain convinced that the shots of Steiner unloading his PPSh constitute the basis of all modern action photography. Peckinpah created a form of hyper-reality previously unknown to cinema, and in doing so laid the foundation for everything that came after: Saving Private Ryan, The Matrix, all of it. Slow-motion destruction intertwined with the man's grimacing face...it all came from that one moment in film.
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Posted: 9/2/2012 3:12:09 AM
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Originally Posted By WesJanson:
Originally Posted By MG42sForAll:
Demarcation!


I remain convinced that the shots of Steiner unloading his PPSh constitute the basis of all modern action photography. Peckinpah created a form of hyper-reality previously unknown to cinema, and in doing so laid the foundation for everything that came after: Saving Private Ryan, The Matrix, all of it. Slow-motion destruction intertwined with the man's grimacing face...it all came from that one moment in film.
To be fair, Arthur Penn did it in Bonnie and Clyde (1967). Peckinpah (I won't say copied) did it in The Wild Bunch (1969), as well. However, he used it more dramatically, rather than to highlight gratuitous violence, which in my opinion is what Penn did. Fine line, I'll admit.

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Posted: 9/2/2012 3:55:59 AM
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If not for the shitty, 60's shag haircuts, it would be the perfect period piece from the WW2 German perspective.w
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Posted: 9/2/2012 8:31:00 PM
Did not know it was on youtube, but I have it on DVD good show, may dig that out and watch it now
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Posted: 9/2/2012 8:32:29 PM
Did not know it was on youtube, but I have it on DVD good show, may dig that out and watch it now
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Posted: 9/2/2012 8:33:10 PM
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Have the DVD

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Beat by several hours, great line.
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Posted: 9/2/2012 8:43:03 PM
One of the best WWII movies out there. Top 3 on my list for sure.
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Posted: 9/2/2012 8:58:05 PM
The book is a good read too.
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Posted: 9/3/2012 10:01:58 PM
love the movie
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Posted: 9/3/2012 10:29:53 PM
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Posted: 9/3/2012 10:58:22 PM
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Posted: 9/4/2012 2:02:10 PM
Watching it now.
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Posted: 9/4/2012 2:14:10 PM
I remember the first time I watched it, I noticed how the crew served weapons were "taken out" while they were being overran by the Russkies, and things went to shit for the Germans who were fighting for their lives. It was hand-to-hand with rifle butts and E-tools. Then the MG crew was able to bring their gun back into action and the attack started to falter. I thought that was pretty realistic at the time (back in the days when I was an 03).

It's one of those movies that could be redone with German speaking actors and modern film technology, and probably come out better than the original.
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Posted: 9/4/2012 2:18:25 PM
Technically very accurate also. It would be difficult to get that period hardware together again for a remake.
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Watched it on my iPhone at work (skated for once) after reading this thread yesterday.

I thought James Mason as the Bn CO (maybe a bit old for a Bn CO) and David Warner as his burned out adjutant were incredible.

Great film. If you haven't watched it you're missing out.
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Posted: 9/4/2012 2:26:26 PM
http://sensesofcinema.com/2001/cteq/cross/

When Orson Welles first saw Sam Peckinpah’s Cross of Iron (1977) he cabled Peckinpah that it was the best anti-war film he had ever seen about the "ordinary enlisted man”.

I saw it years ago and bought it on amazon for next to nothing.
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Posted: 9/4/2012 2:30:04 PM
Originally Posted By DK-Prof:

It's one of the very best WW2 movies, IMO - and I am always surprised at how many people have not seen it.


I heard about it here on ARfcom a few years back. Awesome movie. I don't watch many movies anymore, but that was a good one.
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Posted: 9/4/2012 2:30:47 PM
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http://sensesofcinema.com/2001/cteq/cross/

When Orson Welles first saw Sam Peckinpah’s Cross of Iron (1977) he cabled Peckinpah that it was the best anti-war film he had ever seen about the "ordinary enlisted man”.

I saw it years ago and bought it on amazon for next to nothing.


I thought it more successful as an anti-oral sex film.
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Lot of great movies on youtube:

"Das Boot" director's edition with one extra hour of film.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ayArNHdyCY

Sometimes they are posted and pulled like "Die Bruecke (The Bridge)"

Full English-subtitled version is gone, but most of the parts are there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JHG2SD-9fI


or "The Great Escape"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX13aL93MGQ&feature=related

Great Russian film "The Brest Fortress"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HOL5CDxiVA

and naturally


"The Downfall" with English subtitles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7BVz3majAU&feature=relmfu

and "Blackhawk Down"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc7uM1AqsBQ&feature=related
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Posted: 9/4/2012 2:58:57 PM

Originally Posted By USMCTanker:
Originally Posted By bruzz123:
http://sensesofcinema.com/2001/cteq/cross/

When Orson Welles first saw Sam Peckinpah’s Cross of Iron (1977) he cabled Peckinpah that it was the best anti-war film he had ever seen about the "ordinary enlisted man”.

I saw it years ago and bought it on amazon for next to nothing.


I thought it more successful as an anti-oral sex film.

WUT?????
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Originally Posted By bruzz123:

Originally Posted By USMCTanker:
Originally Posted By bruzz123:
http://sensesofcinema.com/2001/cteq/cross/

When Orson Welles first saw Sam Peckinpah’s Cross of Iron (1977) he cabled Peckinpah that it was the best anti-war film he had ever seen about the "ordinary enlisted man”.

I saw it years ago and bought it on amazon for next to nothing.


I thought it more successful as an anti-oral sex film.

WUT?????


Were you so traumatized by the scene that you have forgotten about it?
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The "trench battle scene" is one of the best I've ever seen. MG-42, P.38, PPH-41s....Oh My!

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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
Originally Posted By bruzz123:

Originally Posted By USMCTanker:
Originally Posted By bruzz123:
http://sensesofcinema.com/2001/cteq/cross/

When Orson Welles first saw Sam Peckinpah’s Cross of Iron (1977) he cabled Peckinpah that it was the best anti-war film he had ever seen about the "ordinary enlisted man”.

I saw it years ago and bought it on amazon for next to nothing.


I thought it more successful as an anti-oral sex film.

WUT?????


Were you so traumatized by the scene that you have forgotten about it?

BINGO –– now i remember.
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Posted: 9/4/2012 3:11:56 PM
Originally Posted By Tim_the_enchanter:
Directed by Sam Peckinpah, 1977. Very good movie Starring James Coburn. Did you know it's available to watch on youtube?


No but I have it on DVD so I don't need to watch it on YouTube
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Originally Posted By 1srelluc:
The "trench battle scene" is one of the best I've ever seen. MG-42, P.38, PPH-41s....Oh My!

Best quote....."Natural body oils, combined with dirt, can keep you waterproof."

i'm looking for the exact quote of, do you think that just because you and colonel brandt are more enlightened that i would hate you any less.
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I joked with my wife that movie was about her Grandfather. Thats him below, with the Iron Cross ribbon he earned fighting Russians in Yugoslavia.
The wound badge below the Combat Action Badge, is from wounds received from the grenade blast that killed his brother.


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Just watched it again yesterday. I love reading about the war on the eastern front and it is particularly interesting the fighting retreat that they conducted. Wish more movies were made dealing with this area.
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Originally Posted By bigbore:
I joked with my wife that movie was about her Grandfather. Thats him below, with the Iron Cross ribbon he earned fighting Russians in Yugoslavia.
The wound badge below the Combat Action Badge, is from wounds received from the grenade blast that killed his brother.
http://www.adcofirearms.com/random/tony.jpg

Oberwachtmeister (Master Sergeant) Polizei Gebirgsjäger He's 20yrs old in that pic.


The emblem on his cap looks almost exactly like our "Ruptered Duck" returning servicemen received over here. Weird.

Look above right breast pocket


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