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haydendavid380 Rock's out with his Glock out Team Member Joined: Jan 2010  IN, USA Posts: 6519 Feedback: 100% (27)	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:11:44 PM THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT If I'm using frangibles? If not, how much steel does it take to stop them?
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MARINEORDIE Put your face on auto slap! Team Member Joined: Jul 2011  CA, USA Posts: 3075 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:12:42 PM Are you serious
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Grin The Green Paint guy Team Member Joined: Feb 2011  MO, USA Posts: 7682 Feedback: 100% (8) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:15:07 PM Just apply 2" of rhinoliner to the walls.
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haydendavid380 Rock's out with his Glock out Team Member Joined: Jan 2010  IN, USA Posts: 6520 Feedback: 100% (27) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:15:40 PM Originally Posted By MARINEORDIE: Are you serious They're supposed to turn to powder when they hit something hard. Is concrete hard enough? I thought it was logical.
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PMB1086 Member Joined: Jul 2008  WA, USA Posts: 194 Feedback: 100% (2) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:16:18 PM Just make sure your mom isn't around.
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TheBigStink Member Team Member Joined: Aug 2008  USA Posts: 1937 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:16:52 PM your water heater will make a fine backstop.
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BadCoverBrian Malcontent and part-time DBag Team Member Joined: Feb 2009  TX, USA Posts: 1082 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:16:53 PM Originally Posted By haydendavid380: Originally Posted By MARINEORDIE: Are you serious They're supposed to turn to powder when they hit something hard. Is concrete hard enough? I thought it was logical. Bullshit
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turbowarp Member Team Member Joined: Nov 2010  TX, USA Posts: 911 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:17:15 PM When I was a kid we had a house with a .22 range in the basement.
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bowbender7 Emu Jockey Team Member Joined: Jul 2011  MO, USA Posts: 3486 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:17:41 PM I use a Captain Crunch cereal box filled with crunchy socks to stop my .338 Lapua when I shoot in basement. Sometimes it wakes my mom up though and then I have to do laundry
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KeithStone Member Team Member Joined: Feb 2012  USA Posts: 131 Feedback: 100% (5) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:18:19 PM Hell yeah! I do it all the time. You don't even need ear protection if you're indoors.
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Obo2 Member Joined: Feb 2012  NV, USA Posts: 1738 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:18:26 PM they make some plastic bullets for such things only powered by the primer and wouldn't cycle a semi. I sure as hell wouldn't shoot a glock in my non existent basement with nothing to catch it. but i think you could do like some 1/2" steel plate angled down and you'd be good
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Coop4570 Member Joined: Feb 2009  WI, USA Posts: 1162 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:19:00 PM Brilliant! please post youtube videos of the experience.
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Slufstuff Member Team Member Joined: Nov 2000  SC, USA Posts: 2412 Feedback: 100% (106) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:19:35 PM Originally Posted By haydendavid380: Originally Posted By MARINEORDIE: Are you serious They're supposed to turn to powder when they hit something hard. Is concrete hard enough? I thought it was logical. Yes, your bullet might be frangible, but the problem is your brick/mortar is ALSO frangible. Look at it this way, your bullets may be dust, but so will your wall.
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whogasak47 Member Team Member Joined: Nov 2010  LA, USA Posts: 3558 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:20:01 PM I would suggest shooting the big marshmallows, they should absorb most of the energy.
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Grin The Green Paint guy Team Member Joined: Feb 2011  MO, USA Posts: 7683 Feedback: 100% (8) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:20:26 PM Oh wait, OP said Glock. Don't fire unless you're 30mi into the empty desert or woods.
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Dan0076 Member Team Member Joined: Feb 2006  VA, USA Posts: 1184 Feedback: 100% (3) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:21:00 PM Originally Posted By haydendavid380: Originally Posted By MARINEORDIE: Are you serious They're supposed to turn to powder when they hit something hard. Is concrete hard enough? I thought it was logical. Just try it and find out. It's only one little hole if it doesn't work.
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Cromlech I like big Pies and I cannot lie. Life Member Joined: Mar 2010  GBR Posts: 12192 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:22:00 PM Just shoot it into a phonebook on the floor of your trailer.
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haydendavid380 Rock's out with his Glock out Team Member Joined: Jan 2010  IN, USA Posts: 6522 Feedback: 100% (27) Link To This Post

Posted: 8/10/2012 6:23:09 PM Originally Posted By Slufstuff: Originally Posted By haydendavid380: Originally Posted By MARINEORDIE: Are you serious They're supposed to turn to powder when they hit something hard. Is concrete hard enough? I thought it was logical. Yes, your bullet might be frangible, but the problem is your brick/mortar is ALSO frangible. Look at it this way, your bullets may be dust, but so will your wall. Thank you. I don't have any experience with frangibles, and they didn't exactly come with a manual.

Originally Posted By Dehammer: I get tired of hearing all the drama of childbirth from women. I regularly take burrito dumps that require a midwife and whiskey. User Info

KaiK Gun Enthusiast Team Member Joined: Oct 2008  MS, USA Posts: 1624 Feedback: 100% (26) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:23:40 PM Don't see why not.
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Chas8008 Member Team Member Joined: Jun 2007  FL, USA Posts: 10131 Feedback: 100% (53) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:23:47 PM don't be a pussy. Wear your eyes and ears.
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haydendavid380 Rock's out with his Glock out Team Member Joined: Jan 2010  IN, USA Posts: 6523 Feedback: 100% (27) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:25:33 PM Originally Posted By Chas8008: don't be a pussy. Wear your eyes and ears. Of course. Since that's apparently a negative, on to the second question. If I put up a piece of plate, would that suffice?
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Tolip Member Joined: Sep 2005  TX, USA Posts: 12726 Feedback: 100% (9) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:26:57 PM Originally Posted By coldair: http://www.thebulletbunker.com/ Do you know how many rounds these are able to take before they need to be replaced?
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FreeFloater 0─╥ Team Member Joined: Dec 2008  SC, USA Posts: 10405 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:27:09 PM Just buy some cheap armor plates.
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HunterGren Member Team Member Joined: Jan 2003  OH, USA Posts: 4222 Feedback: 100% (28) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:27:09 PM Originally Posted By haydendavid380: Originally Posted By MARINEORDIE: Are you serious They're supposed to turn to powder when they hit something hard. Is concrete hard enough? I thought it was logical. I shot a frangible at a 2x4 and it made a clean hole all the way through. I dunno if concrete is enough, I think it has to hit steel.
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denverjames Member Joined: Jul 2007  CO, USA Posts: 905 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:30:51 PM Originally Posted By coldair: http://www.thebulletbunker.com/ I want one.
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LinggrrLonggrr American Team Member Joined: Jun 2008  USA Posts: 5240 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:32:47 PM I read somewhere that you can fire into a 1 gallon bucket of ice cream and the bullet will not penetrate enough to come out the other side. But make sure it's chocolate. For some reason it's denser than strawberry or vanilla.
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wganz Member Team Member Joined: Apr 2004  TX, USA Posts: 11917 Feedback: 100% (11) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:35:21 PM Sure, what could possibly go wrong?
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DonKey153 Jackass Team Member Joined: Sep 2006  TX, USA Posts: 3655 Feedback: 100% (9) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:37:29 PM this has to be a joke.
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iiibdsiil Could Be 0bama's Son Team Member Joined: Jan 2008  NC, USA Posts: 6214 Feedback: 100% (4) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:41:18 PM Well, you ain't gonna die. If you shoot at a steel plate you might get some spall to come back or something. What's wrong with a phone book?
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haydendavid380 Rock's out with his Glock out Team Member Joined: Jan 2010  IN, USA Posts: 6524 Feedback: 100% (27) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:41:27 PM By the way, these are Copper Tin Frangibles, if that makes a difference
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haydendavid380 Rock's out with his Glock out Team Member Joined: Jan 2010  IN, USA Posts: 6525 Feedback: 100% (27) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:42:17 PM Originally Posted By iiibdsiil: Well, you ain't gonna die. If you shoot at a steel plate you might get some spall to come back or something. What's wrong with a phone book? What spall? It's compressed powder.
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MIDGAPATRIOT END THE FED!!!!!!! Team Member Joined: Apr 2008  GA, USA Posts: 6612 Feedback: 100% (30) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:43:27 PM Yes. Do it. Post before and after pics.
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Sslous Member Joined: Oct 2010  CAN Posts: 2640 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:43:50 PM A stack of playing cards yo
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Posted: 8/10/2012 6:44:35 PM Not a good idea, however, I do use a different type in my garage. I use wax bullets in some of my revolvers if I don't want to go to the range. There wouldn't be enough to them to cycle your semi as you use only primers or primers and a small amount 2.2 grns wt (3 grns measured) of black powder (triple 7). With the powder they go about 800FPS. They are accurate with just primers to about 15ft and with the powder to about 30. Even with them you'll need a good backstop as they go right through 1/2" gator board at 50Ft with the powder. I could use them in my basement if I set it up right but I don't want any residue inside the place. They still make X-ring rubber bullets and are available at Midway. Same idea but primers only and in rubber. Supposedly reusable, I've not tried them.

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Silver_Surfer I4NI Team Member Joined: Mar 2001  HI, USA Posts: 18856 Feedback: 100% (2) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:47:13 PM [Last Edit: 8/10/2012 6:49:14 PM by Silver_Surfer] At least shoot it in a BIG bucket of water.
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Posted: 8/10/2012 6:47:22 PM Originally Posted By haydendavid380: Originally Posted By iiibdsiil: Well, you ain't gonna die. If you shoot at a steel plate you might get some spall to come back or something. What's wrong with a phone book? What spall? It's compressed powder. They produce plenty of spall. Getting nailed by that 'powder' isn't any more fun than lead fragments. And you're going to need steel for them to work correctly. It's not hard to build your own inverted plate system against the basement wall that will work fine with frangibles.

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Posted: 8/10/2012 6:48:46 PM You still have the energy of the round as it hits. If it hits something softer than itself, it's going to take collateral damage. Shooting plate may work, as it would be strong enough to absorb the hit and let the round disintegrate, but you would still need to worry about some splash damage, as it's not all instantly going to turn to powder. (there will be some chunks still) Not sure of the health concerns of shooting indoors without proper ventilation. I would suspect that there are better options for indoors, to include gas blowback airsoft pistols. Onyx

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scotchymcdrinkerbean Alcohol is my anti-drug Team Member Joined: Oct 2003  LA, USA Posts: 13692 Feedback: 100% (3) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:49:25 PM Originally Posted By haydendavid380: Originally Posted By MARINEORDIE: Are you serious They're supposed to turn to powder when they hit something hard. Is concrete hard enough? I thought it was logical. They are supposed to, but when we used to use them for quals we found that anything other a 90 degree strike caused them to remain intact and ricochet.
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Posted: 8/10/2012 6:50:20 PM [Last Edit: 8/10/2012 6:50:44 PM by Silver_Surfer] Originally Posted By scotchymcdrinkerbean: Originally Posted By haydendavid380: Originally Posted By MARINEORDIE: Are you serious They're supposed to turn to powder when they hit something hard. Is concrete hard enough? I thought it was logical. They are supposed to, but when we used to use them for quals we found that anything other a 90 degree strike caused them to remain intact and ricochet. This IS NEED TO KNOW INFORMATION!

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Fat_McNasty ¯\(°_0)/¯ Designated Gunsmith, Team Member Joined: Sep 2001  OR, USA Posts: 32845 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:53:51 PM and get your lead level checked. i think you might be a bit high.
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haydendavid380 Rock's out with his Glock out Team Member Joined: Jan 2010  IN, USA Posts: 6527 Feedback: 100% (27) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:55:21 PM Well, I had a 2mm piece of steel from a grill laid against a 4x4 in the back yard. I just fired a test shot with the steel placed in front of the wood. It made it through both I may have under estimated these
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Silver_Surfer I4NI Team Member Joined: Mar 2001  HI, USA Posts: 18859 Feedback: 100% (2) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:57:44 PM Originally Posted By haydendavid380: Well, I had a 2mm piece of steel from a grill laid against a 4x4 in the back yard. I just fired a test shot with the steel placed in front of the wood. It made it through both I may have under estimated these spall?
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osprey21 Known Associate Life Member Joined: Jan 2001  FL, USA Posts: 80878 Feedback: 100% (170) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 6:58:25 PM Originally Posted By Fat_McNasty: and get your lead level checked. i think you might be a bit high. He's a bit high alright, but it ain't from lead.
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