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Posted: 8/9/2012 7:12:32 PM THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT his is supposed to be a picture of three of my relatives. Two brothers and a sister. I have an idea of about when the picture was taken but im not sure. I was hoping someone could ID the uniforms and tell me about when they would have been issued. I obviously dont need a exact date but with in a couple decades would be sufficient. any one got any ideas of about when this would have been snapped?

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delemorte Member Team Member Joined: Jun 2007  NC, USA Posts: 12519 Feedback: 100% (4) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/9/2012 7:22:30 PM [Last Edit: 8/9/2012 7:25:48 PM by delemorte] Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: 1950s Possible. any thoughts on what about the uniforms says that to you? or just a guess.? Or do you just know cause you know some shit and i should stop askingquestions
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delemorte Member Team Member Joined: Jun 2007  NC, USA Posts: 12520 Feedback: 100% (4) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/9/2012 7:30:18 PM Originally Posted By P08: Is that a date stamped on the right side of the photo? i dont think so. i have looked and looked at it and cant make out shit. its definately a stamp of some sort but i think its from the printer company or something. its words not a date.
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Maintain Member Team Member Joined: Sep 2008  TX, USA Posts: 521 Feedback: 100% (5) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/9/2012 7:30:52 PM [Last Edit: 8/9/2012 7:32:18 PM by Maintain] I'd say late 40's, very early 50's. Korean war era. ETA: The man on the right is an officer, and the middle is enlisted. You can tell by the breast pockets (and then I saw the collar insignia, then finally the bars on his lapels)
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Posted: 8/9/2012 7:31:47 PM Originally Posted By delemorte: Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: 1950s Possible. any thoughts on what about the uniforms says that to you? or just a guess.? Or do you just know cause you know some shit and i should stop askingquestions Just a mildly informed swag. The one guy is wearing the WWII style khaki and green style Class A uniform, the other guy has the newer style, IIRC the transition occurred in the 50s. The one cat has an armored div patch, but no wartime ribbons. There were no armored divisions prior to WWII, so it later than WWII. a photo like that taken in the 60s would probably be color. Hence, the 50s. Still a swag.

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garanditis Member Team Member Joined: Mar 2002  TX, USA Posts: 3003 Feedback: 100% (50) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/9/2012 7:37:14 PM Looks like a 6th or possibly 8th armored patch. Both divisions inactivated in 1945. Also, the film has "EASTMAN SAFETY" on it, denoting non-nitrate film. After 1952 no nitrate film was produced by Eastman, so the designation was dropped. I'm thinking WWII era.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 7:37:49 PM Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: Originally Posted By delemorte: Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: 1950s Possible. any thoughts on what about the uniforms says that to you? or just a guess.? Or do you just know cause you know some shit and i should stop askingquestions Just a mildly informed swag. The one guy is wearing the WWII style khaki and green style Class A uniform, the other guy has the newer style, IIRC the transition occurred in the 50s. The one cat has an armored div patch, but no wartime ribbons. There were no armored divisions prior to WWII, so it later than WWII. a photo like that taken in the 60s would probably be color. Hence, the 50s. Still a swag. That shoulder patch appears to be 2nd Armored, a WWII division. That was Patton's command. The man in the middle is wearing standard enlisted brown wool Class A's. The man on the right is wearing "Officer's Pinks and Chocolates". The coat being Chocolate and trousers of that uniform being "pink". Also, he is wearing a chocolate tie, part of the officer's ensemble as opposed to the enlisted man's khaki tie. I'd say Korean War era.

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Posted: 8/9/2012 7:38:01 PM Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: Originally Posted By delemorte: Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: 1950s Possible. any thoughts on what about the uniforms says that to you? or just a guess.? Or do you just know cause you know some shit and i should stop askingquestions Just a mildly informed swag. The one guy is wearing the WWII style khaki and green style Class A uniform, the other guy has the newer style, IIRC the transition occurred in the 50s. The one cat has an armored div patch, but no wartime ribbons. There were no armored divisions prior to WWII, so it later than WWII. a photo like that taken in the 60s would probably be color. Hence, the 50s. Still a swag. but a very well informed opinion sir.... very well done!!!!! This is why i come here. you fuckers know everything.

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Posted: 8/9/2012 7:40:52 PM Originally Posted By garanditis: Looks like a 6th or possibly 8th armored patch. Both divisions inactivated in 1945. Also, the film has "EASTMAN SAFETY" on it, denoting non-nitrate film. After 1952 no nitrate film was produced by Eastman, so the designation was dropped. I'm thinking WWII era. Ok, I'm gonna go with this guys assessment. Closer inspection looks to be an "8", that would definately put it in the WW2 time frame. Also, the film comment. Great work detective!

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Posted: 8/9/2012 7:44:23 PM Originally Posted By Maintain: Originally Posted By garanditis: Looks like a 6th or possibly 8th armored patch. Both divisions inactivated in 1945. Also, the film has "EASTMAN SAFETY" on it, denoting non-nitrate film. After 1952 no nitrate film was produced by Eastman, so the designation was dropped. I'm thinking WWII era. Ok, I'm gonna go with this guys assessment. Closer inspection looks to be an "8", that would definately put it in the WW2 time frame. Also, the film comment. Great work detective! im looking at a high res photo. its an 8

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72coupe Member Team Member Joined: Sep 2006  TX, USA Posts: 999 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/9/2012 7:46:11 PM I think the guy on the right is an artillery officer with the 8th Armored Division. The 8th was only active from 1942 through 1945. At first it was a training unit at For Knox. Late in the war they were sent to Europe.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 7:47:30 PM Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: Originally Posted By delemorte: Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: 1950s Possible. any thoughts on what about the uniforms says that to you? or just a guess.? Or do you just know cause you know some shit and i should stop askingquestions Just a mildly informed swag. The one guy is wearing the WWII style khaki and green style Class A uniform, the other guy has the newer style, IIRC the transition occurred in the 50s. The one cat has an armored div patch, but no wartime ribbons. There were no armored divisions prior to WWII, so it later than WWII. a photo like that taken in the 60s would probably be color. Hence, the 50s. Still a swag. There were shitloads of Armored divisions during the war though...Wiki Link with Armored up top...appears the 1st and 2nd were established in 1940. Officer's patch looks like 8th Armored, maybe 6th. 8th was stood-up in 1942 and inactivated in 1945, 6th likewise, just earlier in both years. Also, based on the woman's clothing, I'd say this is a wartime family portrait. I don't see the "Ruptured Duck" discharge patch or pin on either man's coat, so they're still in the service at the time of the photo. The LT is wearing the "Chocolate" service coat, in a sort of "Pinks-and-Greens" pattern, and that might be the black, early-style mohair tie he's wearing. The PVT, well, I can't ID his shoulder patch without some digging...and about 10 minutes of digging has me coming up dry anyway. Might be an RCT I haven't heard of, but it doesn't look like any of the Division, Corps, or Army patches I've ever seen. Yeah, I'm going with WW2 family portrait, probably one of the last ones before one or both of the Soldiers shipped out.

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Posted: 8/9/2012 7:49:02 PM Originally Posted By delemorte: Originally Posted By Maintain: Originally Posted By garanditis: Looks like a 6th or possibly 8th armored patch. Both divisions inactivated in 1945. Also, the film has "EASTMAN SAFETY" on it, denoting non-nitrate film. After 1952 no nitrate film was produced by Eastman, so the designation was dropped. I'm thinking WWII era. Ok, I'm gonna go with this guys assessment. Closer inspection looks to be an "8", that would definately put it in the WW2 time frame. Also, the film comment. Great work detective! im looking at a high res photo. its an 8 That's your answer on the man on the right The enlisted man in the middle has the shoulder patch of the 96th Infantry Division. They served in the Pacific Theater. Now, identify the insignia he wears on his collar. The little shields.....

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delemorte Member Team Member Joined: Jun 2007  NC, USA Posts: 12523 Feedback: 100% (4) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/9/2012 7:51:48 PM Thanks gentlemen. this is not who my father thought it was so i got some more digging to find out who these three people are and how we are related. They were in a stack of photos my grandmother had of the familly when she passed... cool photo none the less and thanks to you guys i know a little bit more about these two.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 7:51:49 PM [Last Edit: 8/9/2012 7:53:44 PM by scotchymcdrinkerbean] Originally Posted By garanditis: Looks like a 6th or possibly 8th armored patch. Both divisions inactivated in 1945. Also, the film has "EASTMAN SAFETY" on it, denoting non-nitrate film. After 1952 no nitrate film was produced by Eastman, so the designation was dropped. I'm thinking WWII era. 6th was reactivated from '50 to '56. ETA: Overtaken by prior posts––-the 8th was not.

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Posted: 8/9/2012 7:52:24 PM Originally Posted By Maintain: Originally Posted By delemorte: Originally Posted By Maintain: Originally Posted By garanditis: Looks like a 6th or possibly 8th armored patch. Both divisions inactivated in 1945. Also, the film has "EASTMAN SAFETY" on it, denoting non-nitrate film. After 1952 no nitrate film was produced by Eastman, so the designation was dropped. I'm thinking WWII era. Ok, I'm gonna go with this guys assessment. Closer inspection looks to be an "8", that would definately put it in the WW2 time frame. Also, the film comment. Great work detective! im looking at a high res photo. its an 8 That's your answer on the man on the right The enlisted man in the middle has the shoulder patch of the 96th Infantry Division. They served in the Pacific Theater. Now, identify the insignia he wears on his collar. The little shields..... I can get a bette shot of that.. give me a minute.

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Posted: 8/9/2012 7:54:09 PM Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: Originally Posted By delemorte: Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: 1950s Possible. any thoughts on what about the uniforms says that to you? or just a guess.? Or do you just know cause you know some shit and i should stop askingquestions Just a mildly informed swag. The one guy is wearing the WWII style khaki and green style Class A uniform, the other guy has the newer style, IIRC the transition occurred in the 50s. The one cat has an armored div patch, but no wartime ribbons. There were no armored divisions prior to WWII, so it later than WWII. a photo like that taken in the 60s would probably be color. Hence, the 50s. Still a swag. I think the black tie threw you off - those are both WWII era brown coats, though. Ties were not very standardized until the switch to the green uniform when all were definitely black.

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Posted: 8/9/2012 7:54:51 PM [Last Edit: 8/9/2012 7:58:30 PM by RifleCal30m1n00b] Originally Posted By Maintain: Originally Posted By delemorte: Originally Posted By Maintain: Originally Posted By garanditis: Looks like a 6th or possibly 8th armored patch. Both divisions inactivated in 1945. Also, the film has "EASTMAN SAFETY" on it, denoting non-nitrate film. After 1952 no nitrate film was produced by Eastman, so the designation was dropped. I'm thinking WWII era. Ok, I'm gonna go with this guys assessment. Closer inspection looks to be an "8", that would definately put it in the WW2 time frame. Also, the film comment. Great work detective! im looking at a high res photo. its an 8 That's your answer on the man on the right The enlisted man in the middle has the shoulder patch of the 96th Infantry Division. They served in the Pacific Theater. Now, identify the insignia he wears on his collar. The little shields..... Son of a B*****! How did I miss the second diamond in his shoulder patch? Here I was looking for some unit that had a "<" patch only...I feel like a retard. ETA: According to Wiki, the 96th went over to Hawaii for training from July through September of 1944, then shipped out for combat in the Philippines. So I'd think it's a pretty safe bet that this is at the latest, Spring 1944. 8th Armored went to Europe in November '44 and 96th ID went to the Pacific in September '44, but 96th was in Hawaii prior...meaning a Private getting home for a photo (my guess) would be less likely than while they were still in CONUS.

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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:00:17 PM Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam: Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: Originally Posted By delemorte: Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: 1950s Possible. any thoughts on what about the uniforms says that to you? or just a guess.? Or do you just know cause you know some shit and i should stop askingquestions Just a mildly informed swag. The one guy is wearing the WWII style khaki and green style Class A uniform, the other guy has the newer style, IIRC the transition occurred in the 50s. The one cat has an armored div patch, but no wartime ribbons. There were no armored divisions prior to WWII, so it later than WWII. a photo like that taken in the 60s would probably be color. Hence, the 50s. Still a swag. I think the black tie threw you off - those are both WWII era brown coats, though. Ties were not very standardized until the switch to the green uniform when all were definitely black. True. Black ties for officer and enlisted were the basic uniform pre-war, and IIRC sometime in '40 or '41, the khaki tie was authorized to supplant the black tie––but the regs allowed both to be worn, it's not like they issued/authorized khaki ties and wrote the black ones out of regs. This is only to my recollection as an amateur historian and sometime reenactor

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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:00:34 PM Originally Posted By RifleCal30m1n00b: Originally Posted By Maintain: Originally Posted By delemorte: Originally Posted By Maintain: Originally Posted By garanditis: Looks like a 6th or possibly 8th armored patch. Both divisions inactivated in 1945. Also, the film has "EASTMAN SAFETY" on it, denoting non-nitrate film. After 1952 no nitrate film was produced by Eastman, so the designation was dropped. I'm thinking WWII era. Ok, I'm gonna go with this guys assessment. Closer inspection looks to be an "8", that would definately put it in the WW2 time frame. Also, the film comment. Great work detective! im looking at a high res photo. its an 8 That's your answer on the man on the right The enlisted man in the middle has the shoulder patch of the 96th Infantry Division. They served in the Pacific Theater. Now, identify the insignia he wears on his collar. The little shields..... Son of a B*****! How did I miss the second diamond in his shoulder patch? Here I was looking for some unit that had a "<" patch only...I feel like a retard. ETA: According to Wiki, the 96th went over to Hawaii for training from July through September of 1944, then shipped out for combat in the Philippines. So I'd think it's a pretty safe bet that this is at the latest, Spring 1944. 8th Armored went to Europe in November '44 and 96th ID went to the Pacific in September '44, but 96th was in Hawaii prior...meaning a Private getting home for a photo (my guess) would be less likely than while they were still in CONUS. The more you look, the more little details you're gonna find.

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delemorte Member Team Member Joined: Jun 2007  NC, USA Posts: 12526 Feedback: 100% (4) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/9/2012 8:05:35 PM thanks for all the info guys.. its nice discussing something other than politics gun bans and chic fila every once and a while.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:11:42 PM Originally Posted By RifleCal30m1n00b: Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam: Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: Originally Posted By delemorte: Originally Posted By FightingHellfish: 1950s Possible. any thoughts on what about the uniforms says that to you? or just a guess.? Or do you just know cause you know some shit and i should stop askingquestions Just a mildly informed swag. The one guy is wearing the WWII style khaki and green style Class A uniform, the other guy has the newer style, IIRC the transition occurred in the 50s. The one cat has an armored div patch, but no wartime ribbons. There were no armored divisions prior to WWII, so it later than WWII. a photo like that taken in the 60s would probably be color. Hence, the 50s. Still a swag. I think the black tie threw you off - those are both WWII era brown coats, though. Ties were not very standardized until the switch to the green uniform when all were definitely black. True. Black ties for officer and enlisted were the basic uniform pre-war, and IIRC sometime in '40 or '41, the khaki tie was authorized to supplant the black tie––but the regs allowed both to be worn, it's not like they issued/authorized khaki ties and wrote the black ones out of regs. This is only to my recollection as an amateur historian and sometime reenactor They weren't black... Some will say "Drab", some, like myself, will say "brown". In Officer's case anyways. I do A/C work, and in the attic of an old lady's house, I found her husbands WW2 dress uniform. It was complete, head to toe, and he was a US Army Officer. It was WW2 because I saw the shoulder patch, it was theater made, of the 18th Airborne Corp. I remember the tie being "brownish" in color. Not really a green, definately not black. No, I wasn't being nosey, it was hanging on a hanger. But I thought it was really cool. There were still pens in the pockets.

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delemorte Member Team Member Joined: Jun 2007  NC, USA Posts: 12528 Feedback: 100% (4) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/9/2012 8:11:47 PM Originally Posted By Kokie: Go double diamonds!!!! DEAD EYE, READY! que ?
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Maintain Member Team Member Joined: Sep 2008  TX, USA Posts: 527 Feedback: 100% (5) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/9/2012 8:14:44 PM Originally Posted By delemorte: http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/delemorte/Family/scan0011.jpg I'm gonna try and dig up something on this one. I'd like to know, also Yessir, this is a good thread! I love history, especially wartime, as our family is deep with it.
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Kokie Member Joined: May 2012  UT, USA Posts: 20 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/9/2012 8:17:36 PM Originally Posted By delemorte: Originally Posted By Kokie: Go double diamonds!!!! DEAD EYE, READY! que ? My unit is the 96th sustainment brigade, we are what the 96th infantry division has become. im proud to wear the double diamonds on my right shoulder
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Maintain Member Team Member Joined: Sep 2008  TX, USA Posts: 528 Feedback: 100% (5) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/9/2012 8:23:57 PM Ok, I think I got the "shield" insignia. I'm an idiot, I forgot the official term, its a unit crest. His is of the 382 Infantry Regiment of the 96th Infantry Division. The bottom of it reads, "We Lead". This man probably fought in the Battle of Leyte, Okinawa, and the unit was deactivated in '46. Interesting, they became a reserve unit from '47 to '52.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:32:15 PM Originally Posted By Kokie: Originally Posted By delemorte: Originally Posted By Kokie: Go double diamonds!!!! DEAD EYE, READY! que ? My unit is the 96th sustainment brigade, we are what the 96th infantry division has become. im proud to wear the double diamonds on my right shoulder I see now. Part of the patch is shadowed so you cant see it. the full patch looks like this correct?

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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:34:25 PM Originally Posted By Maintain: Ok, I think I got the "shield" insignia. I'm an idiot, I forgot the official term, its a unit crest. His is of the 382 Infantry Regiment of the 96th Infantry Division. The bottom of it reads, "We Lead". This man probably fought in the Battle of Leyte, Okinawa, and the unit was deactivated in '46. Interesting, they became a reserve unit from '47 to '52. i love this place....

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delemorte Member Team Member Joined: Jun 2007  NC, USA Posts: 12531 Feedback: 100% (4) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/9/2012 8:39:17 PM so here is a question.. This is not who my father thought it was. So. since we know the unit info. We know when about the picture was taken and approx age. I know the familly name/names. Is there any way i can look up and try to put a first name to the guy in the middle?
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:46:00 PM Originally Posted By delemorte: so here is a question.. This is not who my father thought it was. So. since we know the unit info. We know when about the picture was taken and approx age. I know the familly name/names. Is there any way i can look up and try to put a first name to the guy in the middle? Couldn't hurt to start here: http://www.96thdeadeyes.org/contactus.html

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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:46:11 PM Originally Posted By delemorte: Originally Posted By Kokie: Originally Posted By delemorte: Originally Posted By Kokie: Go double diamonds!!!! DEAD EYE, READY! que ? My unit is the 96th sustainment brigade, we are what the 96th infantry division has become. im proud to wear the double diamonds on my right shoulder I see now. Part of the patch is shadowed so you cant see it. the full patch looks like this correct? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/96th_Infantry_Division_SSI.svg/259px-96th_Infantry_Division_SSI.svg.png Yes sir that's it.

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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:47:01 PM Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam: Originally Posted By delemorte: so here is a question.. This is not who my father thought it was. So. since we know the unit info. We know when about the picture was taken and approx age. I know the familly name/names. Is there any way i can look up and try to put a first name to the guy in the middle? Couldn't hurt to start here: http://www.96thdeadeyes.org/contactus.html Came back to post this. That's where you can start.

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Posted: 8/10/2012 8:31:19 AM Originally Posted By Maintain: Ok, I think I got the "shield" insignia. I'm an idiot, I forgot the official term, its a unit crest. His is of the 382 Infantry Regiment of the 96th Infantry Division. The bottom of it reads, "We Lead". This man probably fought in the Battle of Leyte, Okinawa, and the unit was deactivated in '46. Interesting, they became a reserve unit from '47 to '52. They became the 96th Regional Command and are currently the 96th Sustainment Brigade.

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delemorte Member Team Member Joined: Jun 2007  NC, USA Posts: 12533 Feedback: 100% (4) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 10:00:35 PM so this is a earlier family photo. Same three siblings with mom and dad. Dad is the brother of by Grand Father.. The problem is he had two brothers and im in the middle of trying to determine which one now.... Digging digging digging....
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Posted: 8/10/2012 10:08:02 PM Originally Posted By Maintain: Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam: Originally Posted By delemorte: so here is a question.. This is not who my father thought it was. So. since we know the unit info. We know when about the picture was taken and approx age. I know the familly name/names. Is there any way i can look up and try to put a first name to the guy in the middle? Couldn't hurt to start here: http://www.96thdeadeyes.org/contactus.html Came back to post this. That's where you can start. Sent a message. We will see what they say. thanks for the suggestion.

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Posted: 8/10/2012 11:26:53 PM Originally Posted By delemorte: his is supposed to be a picture of three of my relatives. Two brothers and a sister. I have an idea of about when the picture was taken but im not sure. I was hoping someone could ID the uniforms and tell me about when they would have been issued. I obviously dont need a exact date but with in a couple decades would be sufficient. any one got any ideas of about when this would have been snapped? http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq108/delemorte/Family/scan0012.jpg Sometime between 1942 and 1944. The enlisted man in the center is wearing the 1930s-40s era OD blouse with regimental distinctive unit insignia (crests) on his lapels. That was worn pre-WWII through about 1943 - was stopped due to WWII shortages, but many EM wore them through the war if they had them. It wasn't resumed after WWII (they were moved to the epaulets). The OD blouse and trousers was replaced by the Army Shade 44 green uniform in 1954 (post Korea). Before that, Army officers and EM had different shade uniforms. He's wearing a 96th Infantry Division patch ( activated in 1942 they served in the Pacific and were deactivated in 1946) but has no ribbons (neither does the officer). The officer on the right is wearing the darker 1930s-40s officer's blouse that was replaced by the Army Shade 44 green uniform in 1954 (post Korea) with an armored divisin patch but the number is unreadable (for me). I don't see a "ruptured duck" (eagle in a wreath identifier worn by discharged WWII vets) so I think it's around 1942-1944 before the 96th ID went overseas, but could be pre-Korea.

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