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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:32:47 PM
The Apple was quite an extraordinary piece of work and granted a great many things to Adam and his progeny, until it fell into Templar hands.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:32:54 PM
Originally Posted By gwitness:
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One explanation: The House of Adam lived that long. Or it could be a oral traditon of boasting, passed down, the first guy says Adam lived 100 years, then the next guy pumped it up to 150 years. Adam was physically perfect....when sin came into the world that perfection begin to degrade. So am I but I'm not going to make it to be 930! |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:33:28 PM
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Maybe the oral tradition regarding these folks was skewed over the years as it was passed from one generation to the next before writing was invented. So maybe in the oral tradition Adam lived 3 or 4 life times or roughly 90 years of age which would be very hard but not impossible in a time when you were a man at 13 were headed down hill at 22 and gone at 31 if you were lucky. That isn't how average lifespan works. Folks 5000 years ago didn't have 1 foot in the grave at age 31. Average lifespan includes child deaths, accidents, death by tiger, etc. Here's an example. Take a new generation of 1000 people. 300 of them die as infants (avg 2yo). Infant mortality has historically been rather high. 200 of them die in adolescence (avg 18). Wars, famine, etc. 100 of them die in adulthood. (avg 30) Wars, famine, accidents, etc. The rest die in old age. (avg 70) (300 * 2 + 200 * 18 + 100 * 30 + 400 * 70)/1000 = Average lifespan of 35.2 years. Those people weren't wizened and hunched over from old age when they hit 35. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:35:01 PM
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:35:52 PM
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Who would want to live that long?
No thanks. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:35:52 PM
Maybe Genesis up to the time of Abraham should be seen as metaphorical and not as literal truth.
And maybe the people listed in the Bible are actually tribes or nations of people and not individual humans. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:36:19 PM
google " dr dino garden of Eden "
watch the video your answers are there. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:36:43 PM
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God is impotent. If you're going to do something that childish, please make note that I did not say what you quoted. My original statement was "God is omnipotent." |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:37:14 PM
Originally Posted By Bat-Masterson:
Adam died at age 930, Noah was almost 500 when he started building the ark. Why don't we live that long now Take the zero off the end, it makes more sense. 
But that is my theory, which yes i know, does not jive with the Bible. Just makes more sense to me that is all. Hopefully I will be proven wrong. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:38:09 PM
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If you divide by lunar cycles the numbers become very realistic. Explain this one to me...I am off to look it up, but am VERY interested. Taggage |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:40:37 PM
Originally Posted By SS109:
One explanation: The House of Adam lived that long. Or it could be a oral traditon of boasting, passed down, the first guy says Adam lived 100 years, then the next guy pumped it up to 150 years. Oh hell he must be older than that. He lives down the street. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:40:41 PM
Originally Posted By 0100010:
Let's see what are some of the theories I have heard over the years.... 1 - In the pre-flood world, there was an ice-shell a few inches thick, a few miles up (over the atmosphere), aka The Firmament; that caused atmoshperic pressure to be about twice what it is now, and also filtered sunlight (made the sky pink no less). The result of this shell is what allowed man to live so long in those days. Also explains where the flood waters came from (the ice shell collapsing when God bitch smacked it). 2 - The it is a mis-translation, and it is not years they are counting - but months, or lunar cycles. 3 - We don't know pre-flood, but it was after the flood that God said that the time for a man will be 120 years. Those are the only ones I can recall at the moment. Theory number 1 is laughable. Heard that one before. Where did all of the water go? And a few miles would be what, 50,000ft at best? #2 Plausible. #3 Could be. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:41:32 PM
Originally Posted By LowBeta:
They ate a lot more yogurt back then. But was it Greek yogart? |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:41:35 PM
They were part Nephilim.
.....either that or the numbers are wrong. One or the other. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:42:05 PM
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Because people like to make shit up. If you look up rulers of that region and time period, they are listed to have reigned for thousands of years. Alulim8 sars (28,800 years)Between 35th and30th century BC Alalngar10 sars (36,000 years) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_king_list#The_list Enlightening. Most people probably would not look at this as "factual"  |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:42:58 PM
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Originally Posted By VictorUnit:
google " dr dino garden of Eden " watch the video your answers are there. You mean Hovind? The convicted tax fraud and admitted liar? 
Yeah, that's somebody you can DEFINITELY trust for a credible answer. I'm telling you, the First Civilization artifacts can do incredible things with the human body, especially those like Adam that possessed both human and First Civilization DNA. The Templars screwed up a good thing. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:43:13 PM
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:43:49 PM
Originally Posted By djbradley:
Who would want to live that long? No thanks. If I was in the general shape of a 25-30 year old the whole time, I would |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:44:38 PM
The firmament, which was destroyed with the flood. And sin.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:44:42 PM
Originally Posted By gwitness: Originally Posted By SS109: One explanation: The House of Adam lived that long. Or it could be a oral traditon of boasting, passed down, the first guy says Adam lived 100 years, then the next guy pumped it up to 150 years. Adam was physically perfect....when sin came into the world that perfection begin to degrade. Adam was created by God himself, so why didn't Adam live as long as some of his sons? |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:47:02 PM
Originally Posted By Lootie23: 256 Year old Chinese man. There are tales of ancient Chinese people living long lives.  |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:47:13 PM
Originally Posted By Waveform:
Originally Posted By gwitness:
Originally Posted By SS109:
One explanation: The House of Adam lived that long. Or it could be a oral traditon of boasting, passed down, the first guy says Adam lived 100 years, then the next guy pumped it up to 150 years. Adam was physically perfect....when sin came into the world that perfection begin to degrade. Adam was created by God himself, so why didn't Adam live as long as some of his sons? Don't get technical about a fable. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:47:59 PM
The only way anyone is living 930 years is if they are bitten by a vampire.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:49:03 PM
[Last Edit: 8/9/2012 2:53:59 PM by Surtr]
Originally Posted By callahan318:
Originally Posted By Surtr:
If you divide by lunar cycles the numbers become very realistic. Explain this one to me...I am off to look it up, but am VERY interested. Taggage 1 year = 12.3682662 lunar cycles Adam 930 "years" / 12.368 ~ 75.19 Noah 500 "years" / 12.368 ~ 40.42 Took Noah 98 "years" to build the ark 98 / 12.368 ~ 7.92 Seems plausible to build a large wooden ship in about 8 years. Lots of Native Americans base their time off lunar cycles aswell, who knows. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:50:17 PM
I am curious as to how this thread ends, I am sure it will be peaceful.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:51:31 PM
It could be a mis-translation somewhere along the way also. We dont know that the 'years' mentioned in the Bible where really true years as we know them. Also, there's no archaeological evidence to support people every living that long. Heck, it could have even been 'months' rather than years. 900 months is 75 years which would have been pretty darn old back then.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:59:07 PM
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:00:05 PM
Originally Posted By Bat-Masterson:
Adam died at age 930, Noah was almost 500 when he started building the ark. Why don't we live that long now I got news for you. They didn't.   |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:01:16 PM
Originally Posted By tmleadr03: I am curious as to how this thread ends, I am sure it will be peaceful. It has actually been fairly mild to this point; it just might die of apathy and fade away. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:05:40 PM
Originally Posted By Surtr:
Originally Posted By callahan318:
Originally Posted By Surtr:
If you divide by lunar cycles the numbers become very realistic. Explain this one to me...I am off to look it up, but am VERY interested. Taggage 1 year = 12.3682662 lunar cycles Adam 930 "years" / 12.368 ~ 75.19 Noah 500 "years" / 12.368 ~ 40.42 Took Noah 98 "years" to build the ark 98 / 12.368 ~ 7.92 Seems plausible to build a large wooden ship in about 8 years. Lots of Native Americans base their time off lunar cycles aswell, who knows. And sense is being made. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:09:42 PM
Originally Posted By gwitness:
Genesis 6- 3 What does Phil Collins have to do with it. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:11:20 PM
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Originally Posted By gwitness:
Genesis 6:3 This. It was his decision. If God can create man he can hit the button on his remote to change our biology whenever/howeverher wants it to behave. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:11:33 PM
in a time when you were a man at 13 were headed down hill at 22 and gone at 31 if you were lucky.
that is not entirely true... people have a skewed comprehension of life expectancy.. remember, it was an average, and the number was kept very low because of ealry childhood or even birth death.. actually, when you passed a certain age, your life expectancy was pretty good (above 50) |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:11:55 PM
Paleo.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:12:50 PM
Magic.
Or a mistranslation/misinterpretation of languages. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:12:58 PM
People lived that long back then because nobody had evil assault rifles. Duh.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:13:25 PM
They didn't.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:14:13 PM
How did the people writing the bible even know what a year was?
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:16:22 PM
Because drinking dino piss is what the fountain of youth really was.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:16:24 PM
Originally Posted By VrodRay: 930 years old huh......Thats like 20% of the earth's existance right?........ Impressive |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:18:15 PM
Better telomeres, back then.
Even Harold Camping knows that! |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:24:07 PM
Originally Posted By w15ly:
Originally Posted By Surtr:
Originally Posted By callahan318:
Originally Posted By Surtr:
If you divide by lunar cycles the numbers become very realistic. Explain this one to me...I am off to look it up, but am VERY interested. Taggage 1 year = 12.3682662 lunar cycles Adam 930 "years" / 12.368 ~ 75.19 Noah 500 "years" / 12.368 ~ 40.42 Took Noah 98 "years" to build the ark 98 / 12.368 ~ 7.92 Seems plausible to build a large wooden ship in about 8 years. Lots of Native Americans base their time off lunar cycles aswell, who knows. And sense is being made. Not in context: 1This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him; 2Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
3And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth: 4And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters: 5And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. 6And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos: 7And Seth lived after he begat Enos eight hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters: 8And all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died. 9And Enos lived ninety years, and begat Cainan: 10And Enos lived after he begat Cainan eight hundred and fifteen years, and begat sons and daughters: 11And all the days of Enos were nine hundred and five years: and he died. 12And Cainan lived seventy years, and begat Mahalaleel: 13And Cainan lived after he begat Mahalaleel eight hundred and forty years, and begat sons and daughters: 14And all the days of Cainan were nine hundred and ten years: and he died. If you subscribe to the years=months theory, then you must also apply it to the stated ages when they begat their sons. So Adam was 10.8 when Seth was born. Seth was 8.75 when Enos was born. Enos was 7.5 when Cainan was born. Cainan was 5.8 when Mahalaleel was born. Etc. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:24:47 PM
Originally Posted By Spade: It always works that way. The next generation is always weaker and lamer. I mean, like at soldiers and Marines today. Buncha pussies complaining about shit. Why, when my grandfather was in The Corps he used to stand up in -70 degree weather at the Chosin with no body armor, humping 150 lbs of gear, firing M1919s from both hips mowing down the Chinamen with Chesty on one side and OP Smith on the other feeding the belts and he never fucking bitched about it once except to yell "Fuck you" at Ned Almond. So Adam lived to be 930 because things were better back then. Obviously. LOL. It's funny how every generation accuses the new one of being "soft" or "spoiled". |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:26:20 PM
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
Originally Posted By Bat-Masterson:
Adam died at age 930, Noah was almost 500 when he started building the ark. Why don't we live that long now because BC people had no concept of time or very little of it. I was going to say because they didn't have watches or calenders. You were close enough. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:27:33 PM
Originally Posted By Bat-Masterson:
Adam died at age 930, There was only one woman on earth and he was stuck with her. It wasn't 930 years...it just seemed like it was. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:34:01 PM
Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:
Originally Posted By Bat-Masterson:
Adam died at age 930, There was only one woman on earth and he was stuck with her. It wasn't 930 years...it just seemed like it was. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:34:55 PM
Higher oxygen pressure. It was like living in a hyperbaric chamber.
Science, how does it work. http://www.creationism.org/articles/AmberOxygen.htm |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:35:40 PM
Whatever the case, the first few generations of humanity lived extremely long lives, and then after Noah’s flood we see a dramatic reduction in average lifespan—people begin to live as long as we do today.
We know that each soul that comes into the world arrives with a set of missions to fulfill. The person housing that soul is given a lifespan that is long enough to complete these missions. The main difference between the earlier and later generations is that the first generations of humanity had large, “all-encompassing” souls. People in later generations possessed only fragments of those original souls. Those souls were broken up and shared between several individuals. The earlier generations had big souls and long lifespans, because they had a lot of work to do. In later generations, these big souls were spread out among thousands and millions of individuals, in the form of smaller souls with less work to do, and thus shorter lifetimes to do it in. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:36:36 PM
Originally Posted By Dragracer:
Higher oxygen pressure. It was like living in a hyperbaric chamber. Science, how does it work. http://www.creationism.org/articles/AmberOxygen.htm That's actually kind of interesting |
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Vampires.
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