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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:52:52 AM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT The nuclear power plant thread makes me wonder. Why don't the just shut it down, let the blackouts begin, and not re-open until the regulations are done away with. Same goes for businesses The people of this country are what make it work, not the government and their regulations . Its the tail wagging the dog, when will we as a country say enough? |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:54:19 AM
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
The government screws over everyone that actually make this country run. The nuclear power plant thread makes me wonder. Why don't the just shut it down, let the blackouts begin, and not re-open until the regulations are done away with. Same goes for businesses The people of this country are what make it work, not the government and their regulations . Its the tail wagging the dog, when will we as a country say enough? i'd tend to agree with this as well |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:56:47 AM
Originally Posted By TexasOutdoorsman:
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
The government screws over everyone that actually make this country run. The nuclear power plant thread makes me wonder. Why don't the just shut it down, let the blackouts begin, and not re-open until the regulations are done away with. Same goes for businesses The people of this country are what make it work, not the government and their regulations . Its the tail wagging the dog, when will we as a country say enough? i'd tend to agree with this as well sounds like some one is reading Rand again. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:58:23 AM
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
Originally Posted By TexasOutdoorsman:
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
The government screws over everyone that actually make this country run. The nuclear power plant thread makes me wonder. Why don't the just shut it down, let the blackouts begin, and not re-open until the regulations are done away with. Same goes for businesses The people of this country are what make it work, not the government and their regulations . Its the tail wagging the dog, when will we as a country say enough? i'd tend to agree with this as well sounds like some one is reading Rand again. Not reading anything. Just thinking out loud |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:58:37 AM
I'm game for this. A few weeks of no iPhones, mochafrappechinos and American Idle would do this nation some good.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:00:45 PM
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I'm game for this. A few weeks of no iPhones, mochafrappechinos and American Idle would do this nation some good. I'm sure most Americans will be pissed at the businesses in the beginning Until they can actually see who the culprit is |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:01:42 PM
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
The government screws over everyone that actually make this country run. The nuclear power plant thread makes me wonder. Why don't the just shut it down, let the blackouts begin, and not re-open until the regulations are done away with. Same goes for businesses The people of this country are what make it work, not the government and their regulations . Its the tail wagging the dog, when will we as a country say enough? Probably because no power generation = no money? Shot in the dark... |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:02:09 PM
Because nobody has the balls to go Galt. Going Galt is utopian since there's always someone willing to do it cheaper and a consumer isn't able to see what they are loosing out on.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:02:23 PM
how many nuke planets are privately owned?
I bet if they shut down the government would force them to turn back on |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:02:39 PM
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
Originally Posted By TexasOutdoorsman:
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
The government screws over everyone that actually make this country run. The nuclear power plant thread makes me wonder. Why don't the just shut it down, let the blackouts begin, and not re-open until the regulations are done away with. Same goes for businesses The people of this country are what make it work, not the government and their regulations . Its the tail wagging the dog, when will we as a country say enough? i'd tend to agree with this as well sounds like some one is reading Rand again. the beurocrats don't do a goddamm thing to make shit happen.....think about it this way.....what actually makes technological shit happen? the technicians and "hands on" people in this country who actually produce things we use on a daily basis are what drives this nation.....the resources for whatever industry are there no matter if a politician has a new rule this week, or if a banker is giving a different percentage rate....the raw materials are still there, and the inquisitive minds trying to solve problems are still there......seems the regulations and the money chain is simply holding back the potential of the country.... |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:03:17 PM
Originally Posted By Zcwilkins:
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
The government screws over everyone that actually make this country run. The nuclear power plant thread makes me wonder. Why don't the just shut it down, let the blackouts begin, and not re-open until the regulations are done away with. Same goes for businesses The people of this country are what make it work, not the government and their regulations . Its the tail wagging the dog, when will we as a country say enough? Probably because no power generation = no money? Shot in the dark... Yeah, because running up trillions in unsustainable debt is SO much better. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:05:20 PM
Because the government will just nationalize at that point and either use troops to do stuff (like Reagan did when PATCO went on strike) or use the courts to force the employees to keep working (like FDR did when steel workers went on strike during the war).
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:06:58 PM
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
The government screws over everyone that actually make this country run. The nuclear power plant thread makes me wonder. Why don't the just shut it down, let the blackouts begin, and not re-open until the regulations are done away with. Same goes for businesses The people of this country are what make it work, not the government and their regulations . Its the tail wagging the dog, when will we as a country say enough? Short term gains. Bars in my city (a city known for bars, tourism, and music venues,) are being cited left and right and having their music permits denied and their live music shut down, all while they operate with the other 20+ permits and permissions they need. Instead of sending kids in to try to buy booze, state alcohol agents and city code enforcement are sending in teams of people to run deep inside, forcing bartenders to leave the bar and chase them down to ask for ID and eject them when they don't have it––-though now the staff cannot touch anyone without going through a city-mandated class in bouncing––-and racking up huge fines when they aren't quick enough, or when team two comes in while they are occupied. I've talked to several bar owners I know, and they all agree that they *should* do what I suggest, but none of them will. All they have to do is get together, and all shut down. I suspect they would only be closed a week before the city would be forced to change their approach in the face of massive losses in sales taxes and tourism. But short term gains trump all. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:07:41 PM
Originally Posted By esa17:
Originally Posted By Zcwilkins:
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
The government screws over everyone that actually make this country run. The nuclear power plant thread makes me wonder. Why don't the just shut it down, let the blackouts begin, and not re-open until the regulations are done away with. Same goes for businesses The people of this country are what make it work, not the government and their regulations . Its the tail wagging the dog, when will we as a country say enough? Probably because no power generation = no money? Shot in the dark... Yeah, because running up trillions in unsustainable debt is SO much better. If a major generation plant stops producing the grid will fail when others try to support it. And there isn't a quick fix. The government can't exactly build a power plant overnight |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:09:09 PM
Originally Posted By scotchymcdrinkerbean:
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
The government screws over everyone that actually make this country run. The nuclear power plant thread makes me wonder. Why don't the just shut it down, let the blackouts begin, and not re-open until the regulations are done away with. Same goes for businesses The people of this country are what make it work, not the government and their regulations . Its the tail wagging the dog, when will we as a country say enough? Short term gains. Bars in my city (a city known for bars, tourism, and music venues,) are being cited left and right and having their music permits denied and their live music shut down, all while they operate with the other 20+ permits and permissions they need. Instead of sending kids in to try to buy booze, state alcohol agents and city code enforcement are sending in teams of people to run deep inside, forcing bartenders to leave the bar and chase them down to ask for ID and eject them when they don't have it––-though now the staff cannot touch anyone without going through a city-mandated class in bouncing––-and racking up huge fines when they aren't quick enough, or when team two comes in while they are occupied. I've talked to several bar owners I know, and they all agree that they *should* do what I suggest, but none of them will. All they have to do is get together, and all shut down. I suspect they would only be closed a week before the city would be forced to change their approach in the face of massive losses in sales taxes and tourism. But short term gains trump all. that's part of my point above as well....even though i didn't word it very well..........i am trying to get some work done myself while digging thru the threads! |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:10:11 PM
Originally Posted By scotchymcdrinkerbean:
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
The government screws over everyone that actually make this country run. The nuclear power plant thread makes me wonder. Why don't the just shut it down, let the blackouts begin, and not re-open until the regulations are done away with. Same goes for businesses The people of this country are what make it work, not the government and their regulations . Its the tail wagging the dog, when will we as a country say enough? Short term gains. Bars in my city (a city known for bars, tourism, and music venues,) are being cited left and right and having their music permits denied and their live music shut down, all while they operate with the other 20+ permits and permissions they need. Instead of sending kids in to try to buy booze, state alcohol agents and city code enforcement are sending in teams of people to run deep inside, forcing bartenders to leave the bar and chase them down to ask for ID and eject them when they don't have it––-though now the staff cannot touch anyone without going through a city-mandated class in bouncing––-and racking up huge fines when they aren't quick enough, or when team two comes in while they are occupied. I've talked to several bar owners I know, and they all agree that they *should* do what I suggest, but none of them will. All they have to do is get together, and all shut down. I suspect they would only be closed a week before the city would be forced to change their approach in the face of massive losses in sales taxes and tourism. But short term gains trump all. Bourbon St? Greed trumps all  |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:12:51 PM
Originally Posted By esa17:
Originally Posted By Zcwilkins:
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
The government screws over everyone that actually make this country run. The nuclear power plant thread makes me wonder. Why don't the just shut it down, let the blackouts begin, and not re-open until the regulations are done away with. Same goes for businesses The people of this country are what make it work, not the government and their regulations . Its the tail wagging the dog, when will we as a country say enough? Probably because no power generation = no money? Shot in the dark... Yeah, because running up trillions in unsustainable debt is SO much better. What does govt debt have to do with a private industry losing money to make a point? |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:13:51 PM
All power plants must perform scheduled maintenance.
Now, if somehow they all did it at the same time......................  |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:14:32 PM
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
If a major generation plant stops producing the grid will fail when others try to support it. And there isn't a quick fix. The government can't exactly build a power plant overnight That's the point. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:15:09 PM
Originally Posted By Zcwilkins:
Originally Posted By esa17:
Originally Posted By Zcwilkins:
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
The government screws over everyone that actually make this country run. The nuclear power plant thread makes me wonder. Why don't the just shut it down, let the blackouts begin, and not re-open until the regulations are done away with. Same goes for businesses The people of this country are what make it work, not the government and their regulations . Its the tail wagging the dog, when will we as a country say enough? Probably because no power generation = no money? Shot in the dark... Yeah, because running up trillions in unsustainable debt is SO much better. What does govt debt have to do with a private industry losing money to make a point? I believe he was talking about the private industry running up debt in order to meet the regulations of the government |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:15:11 PM
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Because the government will just nationalize at that point and either use troops to do stuff (like Reagan did when PATCO went on strike) or use the courts to force the employees to keep working (like FDR did when steel workers went on strike during the war). Both of which take time to implement. In the meantime the country will be without power. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:15:12 PM
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
Originally Posted By esa17:
Originally Posted By Zcwilkins:
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
The government screws over everyone that actually make this country run. The nuclear power plant thread makes me wonder. Why don't the just shut it down, let the blackouts begin, and not re-open until the regulations are done away with. Same goes for businesses The people of this country are what make it work, not the government and their regulations . Its the tail wagging the dog, when will we as a country say enough? Probably because no power generation = no money? Shot in the dark... Yeah, because running up trillions in unsustainable debt is SO much better. If a major generation plant stops producing the grid will fail when others try to support it. And there isn't a quick fix. The government can't exactly build a power plant overnight Not happening, I don't see them making that stand and if they did wouldn't the govt step in with its emergency powers and force them back up at gunpoint? |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:16:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
Originally Posted By Zcwilkins:
Originally Posted By esa17:
Originally Posted By Zcwilkins:
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
The government screws over everyone that actually make this country run. The nuclear power plant thread makes me wonder. Why don't the just shut it down, let the blackouts begin, and not re-open until the regulations are done away with. Same goes for businesses The people of this country are what make it work, not the government and their regulations . Its the tail wagging the dog, when will we as a country say enough? Probably because no power generation = no money? Shot in the dark... Yeah, because running up trillions in unsustainable debt is SO much better. What does govt debt have to do with a private industry losing money to make a point? I believe he was talking about the private industry running up debt in order to meet the regulations of the government I must've missed that CNN article. So all the corps running the power plants are overleveraged? ETA - Not sure why I'm asking you.  |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:17:16 PM
Originally Posted By callgood:
All power plants must perform scheduled maintenance. Now, if somehow they all did it at the same time...................... I did a case study of a company that did just that in CA a long time ago. But they did it to price gouge the customer  |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:18:00 PM
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Bourbon St? Greed trumps all It's easy to be altruistic with someone else's money. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:21:09 PM
Originally Posted By Zcwilkins:
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
Originally Posted By Zcwilkins:
Originally Posted By esa17:
Originally Posted By Zcwilkins:
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
The government screws over everyone that actually make this country run. The nuclear power plant thread makes me wonder. Why don't the just shut it down, let the blackouts begin, and not re-open until the regulations are done away with. Same goes for businesses The people of this country are what make it work, not the government and their regulations . Its the tail wagging the dog, when will we as a country say enough? Probably because no power generation = no money? Shot in the dark... Yeah, because running up trillions in unsustainable debt is SO much better. What does govt debt have to do with a private industry losing money to make a point? I believe he was talking about the private industry running up debt in order to meet the regulations of the government I must've missed that CNN article. So all the corps running the power plants are overleveraged? ETA - Not sure why I'm asking you. They are extremely overleveraged when you look at the predictive growth rate and the cost to build in order to meet the future needs. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:32:43 PM
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Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
Bourbon St? Greed trumps all It's easy to be altruistic with someone else's money. Would their long term gains not outweigh the losses? |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:43:47 PM
I'm sorry to bust your dreams of all the power plants shutting down simultaneously.. not going to happen. One button can kill a unit, but its alittle more complicated when you have no power at all to bring units back online. Not to point out the thousands of lives, food systems, and vital services that MUST have power.
What do you honestly believe would happen?! This isn't all the bars in you town. Some of the logic spouted on here is like reading 5th grade essays. You want to fight regulations you alter the general public's perceptions about the EPA, the far left political groups, and how this big picture includes them and their wallets. Not by killing grandma and causing a social nuclear meltdown.  |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:46:55 PM
If everyone changed their deductions for payroll reduction to 12 so nothing was paid in until April 15 the government would do whatever it took to get people paying again.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:46:59 PM
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
The government screws over everyone that actually make this country run. The nuclear power plant thread makes me wonder. Why don't the just shut it down, let the blackouts begin, and not re-open until the regulations are done away with. Same goes for businesses The people of this country are what make it work, not the government and their regulations . Its the tail wagging the dog, when will we as a country say enough? The government is not some faceless entity. The government is the People. The People feel that the regulations in place are needed Not all of the People are going to agree obviously, but if you asked most Americans if they'd do away with controls on nuke power for the benefit of power or doing away with laws to protect the environment, the workers and the towns these companies are in to benefit the companies, the answer would be "no" in most cases. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:50:26 PM
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex: Its the tail wagging the dog, when will we as a country say enough? This is only starting to become apparent. "We" are starting to show numbers on various issues. Look at the "Gun Salesman of the Year", look at Chick Fillet Day.
The only way (that I see) to effect positive change is to overrun the Congress and Presidency with like minded individuals that DO NOT see these positions as a career.
I thought the Tea Party was going to do that.
The 'Silent Majority' is only slightly starting to mutter a few words. When we can speak in complete sentences; this Nation will be where 'it should be'.
What needs to be understood by the people (once again) is that "Freedom of" does not equal "Freedom from" and the personal idea of "decency" needs to be instilled upon society. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:52:53 PM
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What needs to be understood by the people (once again) is that "Freedom of" does not equal "Freedom from" and the personal idea of "decency" needs to be instilled upon society. Sounds to me like more people would be "decent" if they understood that their choice of personal faith is best left for the home and place of worship. It has no place in civil society, which is best left neutral so that all are represented and none left out. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:53:07 PM
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Originally Posted By RonnieJamesDioFan:
Because the government will just nationalize at that point and either use troops to do stuff (like Reagan did when PATCO went on strike) or use the courts to force the employees to keep working (like FDR did when steel workers went on strike during the war). Both of which take time to implement. In the meantime the country will be without power. And the people will be begging for the government to finally step in and do something. The longer Americans are without power because of private business, the more call there is for government to make sure it never happens again by taking over said industry. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:54:44 PM
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I thought the Tea Party was going to do that. Pretty much everyone had that hope until the first vote in the House to raise the debt limit passed. Then it was clear that the Tea Party candidates were just business as usual. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:58:56 PM
Originally Posted By tc556guy:
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
The government screws over everyone that actually make this country run. The nuclear power plant thread makes me wonder. Why don't the just shut it down, let the blackouts begin, and not re-open until the regulations are done away with. Same goes for businesses The people of this country are what make it work, not the government and their regulations . Its the tail wagging the dog, when will we as a country say enough? The government is not some faceless entity. The government is the People. The People feel that the regulations in place are needed Not all of the People are going to agree obviously, but if you asked most Americans if they'd do away with controls on nuke power for the benefit of power or doing away with laws to protect the environment, the workers and the towns these companies are in to benefit the companies, the answer would be "no" in most cases. Gosh if you asked people if they wanted to get rid of controls on nuclear power they would say no. And if you asked if they thought guns should be regulated they would say yes. Because they are both overly borad questions about technical subjects folks don't understand. Nobody here is saying that there shouldn't be any oversight on the nuclear industry, they are saying that the regulations are made specifically to destroy the technology and should be reeled back in. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:00:38 PM
Originally Posted By tc556guy: Originally Posted By ar154all: What needs to be understood by the people (once again) is that "Freedom of" does not equal "Freedom from" and the personal idea of "decency" needs to be instilled upon society. Sounds to me like more people would be "decent" if they understood that their choice of personal faith is best left for the home and place of worship. It has no place in civil society, which is best left neutral so that all are represented and none left out. Its not just religion. Just because someone can do something (anything), does not mean they should. Besides; what harm would it be if every "Christian', 'Jew', 'Muslim', 'Buddhist', Jedi, or whatever actually behaved as their faith directed while in public???? |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:01:12 PM
Originally Posted By RonnieJamesDioFan: Originally Posted By ar154all: I thought the Tea Party was going to do that. Pretty much everyone had that hope until the first vote in the House to raise the debt limit passed. Then it was clear that the Tea Party candidates were just business as usual. Unfortunately, truth.... |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:02:29 PM
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Its not just religion. Just because someone can do something (anything), does not mean they should. [div]Besides; what harm would it be if every "Christian', 'Jew', 'Muslim', 'Buddhist', Jedi, or whatever actually behaved as their faith directed while in public???? If its not just religion, what did you have in mind. if people acted decently then of course society would be better off. Society as a whole has never acted decently. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:12:08 PM
Originally Posted By tc556guy: Originally Posted By ar154all: Its not just religion. Just because someone can do something (anything), does not mean they should. Besides; what harm would it be if every "Christian', 'Jew', 'Muslim', 'Buddhist', Jedi, or whatever actually behaved as their faith directed while in public???? If its not just religion, what did you have in mind. if people acted decently then of course society would be better off. Society as a whole has never acted decently. 'in mind': the way people speak to each other; control actions as to minimize their impact upon others (loud car stereos, cussing loudly on the street...); general fear of speaking up for the general good for fear of being called a bigot, raciest, whatever; This sort of thing. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:14:19 PM
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:26:17 PM
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'in mind': the way people speak to each other; control actions as to minimize their impact upon others (loud car stereos, cussing loudly on the street...); general fear of speaking up for the general good for fear of being called a bigot, raciest, whatever; This sort of thing. FWIW: What good does it to if I am only 'Christian' in my home and Church; and while on the street I am my 'regular' self? Trust me; YOU (society) wants me being "Christian" as much as possible... it's the ONLY reason some people are breathing right now. What you call "being Chgristian" is really just a form of common decency that transcends many religions and cultures. And there are plenty of "Christians" who haven't figured out how to act decently |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:28:58 PM
Originally Posted By tc556guy: Originally Posted By ar154all: 'in mind': the way people speak to each other; control actions as to minimize their impact upon others (loud car stereos, cussing loudly on the street...); general fear of speaking up for the general good for fear of being called a bigot, raciest, whatever; This sort of thing. FWIW: What good does it to if I am only 'Christian' in my home and Church; and while on the street I am my 'regular' self? Trust me; YOU (society) wants me being "Christian" as much as possible... it's the ONLY reason some people are breathing right now. What you call "being Chgristian" is really just a form of common decency that transcends many religions and cultures. And there are plenty of "Christians" who haven't figured out how to act decently BINGO You win the Internetz today.
Getting back to the OP; "The Second American Revolution" and all that. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:35:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
The government screws over everyone that actually make this country run. The nuclear power plant thread makes me wonder. Why don't the just shut it down, let the blackouts begin, and not re-open until the regulations are done away with. Same goes for businesses The people of this country are what make it work, not the government and their regulations . Its the tail wagging the dog, when will we as a country say enough? Short term gains. Bars in my city (a city known for bars, tourism, and music venues,) are being cited left and right and having their music permits denied and their live music shut down, all while they operate with the other 20+ permits and permissions they need. Instead of sending kids in to try to buy booze, state alcohol agents and city code enforcement are sending in teams of people to run deep inside, forcing bartenders to leave the bar and chase them down to ask for ID and eject them when they don't have it––-though now the staff cannot touch anyone without going through a city-mandated class in bouncing––-and racking up huge fines when they aren't quick enough, or when team two comes in while they are occupied. I've talked to several bar owners I know, and they all agree that they *should* do what I suggest, but none of them will. All they have to do is get together, and all shut down. I suspect they would only be closed a week before the city would be forced to change their approach in the face of massive losses in sales taxes and tourism. But short term gains trump all. this would work, the power companies not so much, do to the already stated reasons. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:42:02 PM
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
Originally Posted By esa17:
I'm game for this. A few weeks of no iPhones, mochafrappechinos and American Idle would do this nation some good. I'm sure most Americans will be pissed at the businesses in the beginning Until they can actually see who the culprit is By the time they come to that realization, it will already be over. TXL |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:42:46 PM
Originally Posted By RonnieJamesDioFan:
Because the government will just nationalize at that point and either use troops to do stuff (like Reagan did when PATCO went on strike) or use the courts to force the employees to keep working (like FDR did when steel workers went on strike during the war). I will agree here you got to think maybe that's what they would like to happen??? HMMMMMM  |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:46:38 PM
Originally Posted By AlvinYork:
Originally Posted By TexasOutdoorsman:
Originally Posted By Plasteredtex:
The government screws over everyone that actually make this country run. The nuclear power plant thread makes me wonder. Why don't the just shut it down, let the blackouts begin, and not re-open until the regulations are done away with. Same goes for businesses The people of this country are what make it work, not the government and their regulations . Its the tail wagging the dog, when will we as a country say enough? i'd tend to agree with this as well sounds like some one is reading Rand again. Reading Rand hell we are living the first and second part of Atlas Shrugs. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:47:16 PM
Originally Posted By Ciraxis:
how many nuke planets are privately owned? I bet if they shut down the government would force them to turn back on If the workers at the power plants walked out the government could demand all they wanted but without workers to man them they couldn't run, at least not for long. But that will never happen I'm just wasting keystokes. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:51:45 PM
I think that is why the govt works so hard not to shut down. When the govt shuts down and no one give a fuck it scares them to death.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:53:51 PM
Originally Posted By TLeath:
I think that is why the govt works so hard not to shut down. When the govt shuts down and no one give a fuck it scares them to death. Remember when the government shut down in the 90s and said they were only going to keep essential services open and furlough the non-essential services and some bright talking heads asked "well, if they are non-essential, why do we have them?" |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:56:35 PM
Originally Posted By RonnieJamesDioFan:
Originally Posted By TLeath:
I think that is why the govt works so hard not to shut down. When the govt shuts down and no one give a fuck it scares them to death. Remember when the government shut down in the 90s and said they were only going to keep essential services open and furlough the non-essential services and some bright talking heads asked "well, if they are non-essential, why do we have them?" Apples and oranges. Just because gov't can go a couple of weeks at a reduced level doesn't mean it can be done as a routine. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:59:36 PM
Originally Posted By tc556guy: Originally Posted By RonnieJamesDioFan: Originally Posted By TLeath: I think that is why the govt works so hard not to shut down. When the govt shuts down and no one give a fuck it scares them to death. Remember when the government shut down in the 90s and said they were only going to keep essential services open and furlough the non-essential services and some bright talking heads asked "well, if they are non-essential, why do we have them?" Apples and oranges. Just because gov't can go a couple of weeks at a reduced level doesn't mean it can be done as a routine. But you gotta admit, with all the money the .gov has let slipped through their fingers on useless shit, there could have been abot of good done here with that money... |
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