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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:38:00 AM
I've have mozz sticks out here once that tasted like it's filled with american cheese
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:54:59 AM
Originally Posted By dryroasted:
Originally Posted By Daytona955i:
Originally Posted By DragoMuseveni:

There is only 1 true pizza and that is New York style, everything else is idolatry.



As a NYer I will allow Chicago Style Pizza to be officially recognized, but not by the nomenclature of "pizza", it must be referred to as "deep dish pizza".



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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:17:47 PM
Every pizza is better than St Louis style!!!!
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:21:56 PM
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As much as I love STL, the pizza is awful

http://goo.gl/H9XbG


Imos, mmmm, mmmm good.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:41:37 PM
You have to be one of us born in St. Louis to like it. Imo's is awesome.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:47:57 PM
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Is there anything that STL does correctly?

Yes.

Baseball, "recognize all permits" CCW reciprocity, and F15s and similar goodies. Folks like this stuff called Budweiser that they make there. Just a few examples. If you stay out of the high crime areas (which most cities have) it's really pretty nice for a big city.

"St Louis style" pizza though is an abomination and should not be called "pizza".
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:55:26 PM
Originally Posted By dryroasted:
Originally Posted By blacksunshinez51:
Originally Posted By DragoMuseveni:
St Louis is to pizza what Cincinnati is to chili.


You mean they put cinnamon on it


Sliced American Cheese. Then cut the card board crust into squares.


IMO's is an aquired taste.

I've been living here since I EAS'd from the Corps in 1997.
I havent aquired the taste yet.


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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:56:16 PM
Originally Posted By Kevyn:
Originally Posted By robb01:
As much as I love STL, the pizza is awful

http://goo.gl/H9XbG


Stop ordering Domino's take out.

Ever been to Blackthorn Pub? ..."supposed" to be "Chicago Style" deep dish.

You're just eating at the wrong pizza places.


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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:56:31 PM
I did not realize St Louis had their own style of pizza. I need to get out more.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:58:02 PM

Originally Posted By Ameshawki:
I did not realize St Louis had their own style of pizza. I need to get out more.


You are missing out on absolutely nothing when comes to St Louis Style Pizza.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:01:57 PM
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Originally Posted By Ameshawki:
I did not realize St Louis had their own style of pizza. I need to get out more.


You are missing out on absolutely nothing when comes to St Louis Style Pizza.


It is so nasty. Do not go out of your way to get it.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:06:21 PM
If found on death row, an Imo's deluxe is my last meal request.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:20:50 PM
Originally Posted By Daytona955i:
Originally Posted By DragoMuseveni:

There is only 1 true pizza and that is New York style, everything else is idolatry.



As a NYer I will allow Chicago Style Pizza to be officially recognized, but not by the nomenclature of "pizza", it must be referred to as "deep dish pizza".



That chicago stuff actually makes sense to be called pizza pie. it's ok but I'm a NY pizza person.

I can make my own crust and it's very good crust. I'm still titrating my pizza sauce. I am thinking the base needs to be tomato sauce with about 10-20% tomato paste. That way you get a rich sweet tomato flavor. Straight tomato paste with water and spices is just too sweet. Plenty of garlic and light on the herbage. Shred your own mozzerella, augment with parmesan and or romano, and even aged provalone is really really good for flavor.

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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:23:38 PM
Originally Posted By dryroasted:
Originally Posted By Jarhead08:

Originally Posted By Ameshawki:
I did not realize St Louis had their own style of pizza. I need to get out more.


You are missing out on absolutely nothing when comes to St Louis Style Pizza.


It is so nasty. Do not go out of your way to get it.


Sounds like that shitty school pizza I had in high school, foamy bread base, uninspired tomato sauce with black pepper for flavor, lots of government cheese because it's free and meets some government quota. Even as a 15 year old I hated that crap, I'd rather get a tuna or ham salad sammich.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:25:15 PM
st louis pizza is awesome. Provel is awesome

If you are ever in NYC, try out Speedy Romeos. It is in brooklyn. The owner is a st louis guy. He makes some awesome provel pizzas.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:30:58 PM
I spent the summer of 96 in St. Louis.

What they called "pizza" was actually served in a cookie sheet....covered with American cheese.

Holy fuckin' shit, Batman.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:31:14 PM
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:32:32 PM
Originally Posted By Tras:
If found on death row, an Imo's deluxe is my last meal request.


IF you were on death row that is what you should get.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:33:48 PM

Originally Posted By dryroasted:

Of all the things to eat in St. Louis, why would you choose pizza?
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:37:25 PM

Originally Posted By Tras:
If found on death row, an Imo's deluxe is my last meal request.


Cheatin the excecutioner huh? I can dig it.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:42:08 PM
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Roberto's in Florissant! Cheese and hamburger!

Yeah it's weird, but I had a lot of it growing up and I love it!


I got an unle that stays in Florissant. Where is Robertos located? Close to what shopping center


No idea! Most of the time I had it was as a kid. I lived in Springfield and we visited my grandparents in Florissant often. They usually had a Robertos pizza waiting for us when we got there.

When we went there when I was older, I never drove because I didn't know the way. It's been a few years since then anyways. I hope they are still open, it's a family joint and my dad worked there as a teenager almost 40 years ago.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:47:55 PM
Originally Posted By ToyCop:

Originally Posted By dryroasted:

Of all the things to eat in St. Louis, why would you choose pizza?



White Castle any better?
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Posted: 8/9/2012 4:33:40 PM
Originally Posted By Fatbert:

Originally Posted By Jarhead08:

Originally Posted By Fatbert:

Originally Posted By tyman:
Is there anything that STL does correctly?

Not much, other than baseball.

They have delusions of being Chicago.


With more bland and worse food.

Hence the delusions.

I honestly feel kind of sorry for St. Louis. They're going through a decline that few other cities have in the US (Detroit, for instance) due to the change in the economy. I'd like to see them try to carve out some niche for themselves. The problem is that there's an identity crisis there where the city doesn't quite know what it wants to be so it's settled on being a "me too!" version of Chicago.


What is actually positive about Chicago??? NOBODY wants to be like that shithole police state. Also, I tried it last year, there is nothing special at all about Chicago food. (went to most of the places Chicagoans I know said to) Its not horrible or anything, there is just nothing that stands out about it.

STL pizza is an acquired taste (the provel cheese is anyway) but at least its unique. Chicago deep dish is just a bunch of standard sauce, meat and cheese put together.

Disclaimer: I did NOT have Chicago thin crust, so that may be decent. I assume its not better than good NY style though.

I don't necessarily have a lot of positives about living in St Louis, and it did decline when RR beat boats, but I have even less positive to say about Chicago.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 4:34:28 PM
Originally Posted By LuvBUSHmaster:
Originally Posted By tyman:
Is there anything that STL does correctly?


Floods, crime, pilsner, toasted ravioli, and baseball.


It was also smart enough to not be in Kansas or Illinois.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 4:40:18 PM
Originally Posted By Veracity:
I spent the summer of 96 in St. Louis.

What they called "pizza" was actually served in a cookie sheet....covered with American cheese.

Holy fuckin' shit, Batman.


Its not American Cheese, its Provel. (not ProvelONE, just Provel)

Some kind of cheap, half sour cheese (or is that redundant)



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Posted: 8/9/2012 5:34:49 PM
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Originally Posted By Fatbert:

Originally Posted By tyman:
Is there anything that STL does correctly?

Not much, other than baseball.

They have delusions of being Chicago.


With more bland and worse food.


We do high crime rates even better than Chicago!


Higher crime rate than Chicago and not even decent deep dish.

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Posted: 8/9/2012 5:35:46 PM

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Originally Posted By ToyCop:

Originally Posted By dryroasted:

Of all the things to eat in St. Louis, why would you choose pizza?



White Castle any better?

Sure is Better than pizza? I'd be eating BBQ.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 5:45:01 PM
Originally Posted By ToyCop:

Originally Posted By dryroasted:
Originally Posted By ToyCop:

Originally Posted By dryroasted:

Of all the things to eat in St. Louis, why would you choose pizza?



White Castle any better?

Sure is Better than pizza? I'd be eating BBQ.


I live in TX, Best BBQ in the world.
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Originally Posted By SteelonSteel:
Originally Posted By dryroasted:
Originally Posted By Jarhead08:

Originally Posted By Ameshawki:
I did not realize St Louis had their own style of pizza. I need to get out more.


You are missing out on absolutely nothing when comes to St Louis Style Pizza.


It is so nasty. Do not go out of your way to get it.


Sounds like that shitty school pizza I had in high school, foamy bread base, uninspired tomato sauce with black pepper for flavor, lots of government cheese because it's free and meets some government quota. Even as a 15 year old I hated that crap, I'd rather get a tuna or ham salad sammich.


People either love or hate STL thin style pizza, but cafeteria pizza it is not. Not even close. The crust is more of a thin crunchy cracker than the cafeteria wet bread "crust".

Try it with an open mind, or not. I could care less. However, their are some drama lama's in here that make it out to be worse than pickled pig anus when in reality its pretty good. Its like comparing some really nice Italian family deli made Brooklyn slice of pizza to Pizza Hut, both are pizza but are totally different experiences.

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Posted: 8/9/2012 5:55:31 PM
Originally Posted By dryroasted:
Originally Posted By ToyCop:

Originally Posted By dryroasted:
Originally Posted By ToyCop:

Originally Posted By dryroasted:

Of all the things to eat in St. Louis, why would you choose pizza?



White Castle any better?

Sure is Better than pizza? I'd be eating BBQ.


I live in TX, 4th Best BBQ in the world.


#1) Carolina Style
#2) Memphis
#3) Kansas City
#4) Texas

Its really not all your fault though, you just haven't progressed to the better BBQ meat of pork yet. You can't win BBQ with beef, hell you can barely enter.

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Posted: 8/9/2012 6:45:43 PM

Originally Posted By dryroasted:
Originally Posted By ToyCop:

Originally Posted By dryroasted:
Originally Posted By ToyCop:

Originally Posted By dryroasted:

Of all the things to eat in St. Louis, why would you choose pizza?



White Castle any better?

Sure is Better than pizza? I'd be eating BBQ.


I live in TX, Best BBQ in the world.

Not even close.
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Originally Posted By dryroasted:
Originally Posted By ToyCop:

Originally Posted By dryroasted:
Originally Posted By ToyCop:

Originally Posted By dryroasted:

Of all the things to eat in St. Louis, why would you choose pizza?



White Castle any better?

Sure is Better than pizza? I'd be eating BBQ.


I live in TX, 4th Best BBQ in the world.


#1) Carolina Style
#2) Memphis
#3) Kansas City
#4) Texas

Its really not all your fault though, you just haven't progressed to the better BBQ meat of pork yet. You can't win BBQ with beef, hell you can barely enter.



I had pork butt for dinner tonight. I feel sorry for your lack of taste
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:42:05 PM
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Originally Posted By retgarr:
Roberto's in Florissant! Cheese and hamburger!

Yeah it's weird, but I had a lot of it growing up and I love it!


I got an unle that stays in Florissant. Where is Robertos located? Close to what shopping center


No idea! Most of the time I had it was as a kid. I lived in Springfield and we visited my grandparents in Florissant often. They usually had a Robertos pizza waiting for us when we got there.

When we went there when I was older, I never drove because I didn't know the way. It's been a few years since then anyways. I hope they are still open, it's a family joint and my dad worked there as a teenager almost 40 years ago.


I'm going to look the next time I'm up that way
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:49:17 PM
Originally Posted By SteelonSteel:
Originally Posted By Daytona955i:
Originally Posted By DragoMuseveni:

There is only 1 true pizza and that is New York style, everything else is idolatry.



As a NYer I will allow Chicago Style Pizza to be officially recognized, but not by the nomenclature of "pizza", it must be referred to as "deep dish pizza".



That chicago stuff actually makes sense to be called pizza pie. it's ok but I'm a NY pizza person.

I can make my own crust and it's very good crust. I'm still titrating my pizza sauce. I am thinking the base needs to be tomato sauce with about 10-20% tomato paste. That way you get a rich sweet tomato flavor. Straight tomato paste with water and spices is just too sweet. Plenty of garlic and light on the herbage. Shred your own mozzerella, augment with parmesan and or romano, and even aged provalone is really really good for flavor.




Fresh san marzano tomatoes are the secret to the sauce.

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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:11:59 PM
Originally Posted By Gamma762:
Originally Posted By tyman:
Is there anything that STL does correctly?

Yes.

Baseball, "recognize all permits" CCW reciprocity, and F15s and similar goodies. Folks like this stuff called Budweiser that they make there. Just a few examples. If you stay out of the high crime areas (which most cities have) it's really pretty nice for a big city.

"St Louis style" pizza though is an abomination and should not be called "pizza".


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