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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:50:17 PM
Originally Posted By Peremalfait:
The gov signed a contract with AM General to never resell used mil Humvees. A few dozen 1987's got out but that's it. If you see a later model for sale it's stolen. A lot are. They're fun to drive if you leave all the crap off. No armor or doors. With all the weight and limited visibility the Turtle Back models aren't so fun. They get 18mpg. They're easy to work on and use mostly GM parts. The 6.5L engine is the same one in every ambulance and tow truck on the road. Gotta be more than a few dozen. There are a couple around here alone. Some volunteer SAR units got them at one time. DEEMI (a local unit) has a very sweet one, completely gone through. It is registered for the road. 'Course, we did have the rebuilding/refitting depot up at the old Loring AFB for a while, wouldn't surprise me if some "leaked" out that way too. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:52:26 PM
The number I heard is that about 600 Humvees were sold legally. Mostly 1985 and 86 models.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:53:10 PM
Yes I was thinking MilSurp. Bullet proof and all that. Would be great to prevent car jacking. Rolled up windows and locked doors. Go ahead and shoot M&^f&^&er.
But seriously I was watching the M chanel and the were showing the cappability of the Hummer and it looked pretty good. Just got me thinking about them with all the MilSurp trucks being picked up cheap. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:53:17 PM
Originally Posted By wag_bag:
There are several vehicles I would rather have than an old ass humvee. I have a nice fleet of K5 Blazers that are EXCELLENT BOV's.  Easy to fix or modify. Can go anywhere. Parts are CHEAP!!!! |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:59:01 PM
Originally Posted By beemerman:
Yes I was thinking MilSurp. Bullet proof and all that. Would be great to prevent car jacking. Rolled up windows and locked doors. Go ahead and shoot M&^f&^&er.
But seriously I was watching the M chanel and the were showing the cappability of the Hummer and it looked pretty good. Just got me thinking about them with all the MilSurp trucks being picked up cheap. Finding a BULLET PROOF milsurp Humvee will not be cheap. At all. The only one I've seen was $127k. Not to mention, it kind of ruins the capabilities and original intent of the vehicle to put that much weight on it. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:01:51 PM
One of the original, lighter ones, would be nice. They were a fun ride.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:02:22 PM
I would take my tacoma over just about anything else any day of the week. All I have done is switch out the dunlops for BFG TAKOs and you would be surprised how capable this thing is. I have had it so deep in the woods in the Uwharries, we had to cut our own trail out and not once did it ever feel like it was overwhelmed. I may switch the shocks out for some billies but beyond that, this thing is a champ.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:06:49 PM
Repairability is going to be an issue.
Think i'd take something simpler, like a 1950's Jeep, over an H1. |
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wingnutx
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:11:13 PM
I'd rather have a low-tech old 4x4 that is easy to fix.
HMWWVs suck to ride in, too, unless you are a midget.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:19:27 PM
The Maintenance alone is enough to make me not want one.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:25:25 PM
Originally Posted By MaverickH1:
Originally Posted By wesmerc:
tacoma/hilux is better in almost every measurable way Every measurable way? Oh, do you mean ground clearance, vertical step capability, water fording ability, approach angle, breakover angle, departure angle, torque, side slope capability, and towing capacity? Which one of those is the Hilux better at? And where's the proof? fitting between a boulder and a big ass tree. that wide piece of shit of a hummvee won't go down a jeep trail. and thats provided the piece of shit transmission doesn't blow out. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:26:19 PM
Originally Posted By AmericanSoldier1989:
The Maintenance alone is enough to make me not want one. And which maintenance activity did you find to be freakishly difficult? |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:28:18 PM
Ask GaryOwen how he likes his.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:31:58 PM
Originally Posted By Howie_Phelterbush:
Originally Posted By MaverickH1:
Originally Posted By wesmerc:
tacoma/hilux is better in almost every measurable way Every measurable way? Oh, do you mean ground clearance, vertical step capability, water fording ability, approach angle, breakover angle, departure angle, torque, side slope capability, and towing capacity? Which one of those is the Hilux better at? And where's the proof? fitting between a boulder and a big ass tree. that wide piece of shit of a hummvee won't go down a jeep trail. and thats provided the piece of shit transmission doesn't blow out. Thank you for your well thought out, intelligent response. Yes, a Humvee is wider than a Jeep and other light duty off road-ish vehicles. That can present a problem in certain environments, and why many off road enthusiasts prefer nimbler, narrower vehicles. That doesn't make the Humvee a "piece of shit" as you so eloquently put it. This one thing doesn't make a Hilux better in "every measurable way", does it? To put it simply, the transmission isn't a "piece of shit". |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:33:44 PM
Originally Posted By beemerman:
Can you buy one surplus and, would it be worth it? How much for one and can you get parts? In short, no it is NOT the end all. Not even close. Looks cool (I guess) but not practical in any sense of the word for bugging out. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:35:16 PM
Originally Posted By wingnutx:
I'd rather have a low-tech old 4x4 that is easy to fix. So very true. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:35:36 PM
Originally Posted By MaverickH1:
Originally Posted By AmericanSoldier1989:
The Maintenance alone is enough to make me not want one. And which maintenance activity did you find to be freakishly difficult? Finding parts? It's not too hard today with the internet and sophisticated shipping carriers. But without the net and trying to scrounge parts? No way. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:38:19 PM
I would go with the Hilux as well. For a HMMWV to be good as a BOV, it would be stripped to save weight, which means no armor. It is also loud and wide, so it would be harder to maneuver than a Hilux. The Hilux has a higher top speed, and spare parts are readily available, it also won't attract attention.
Did I mention it is a lot cheaper as well?? |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:39:04 PM
Originally Posted By TinLeg:
Originally Posted By MaverickH1:
Originally Posted By AmericanSoldier1989:
The Maintenance alone is enough to make me not want one. And which maintenance activity did you find to be freakishly difficult? Finding parts? It's not too hard today with the internet and sophisticated shipping carriers. But without the net and trying to scrounge parts? No way. This guy was making it sound like it was a KTM, Ducati, or Ferrari with his "oh god, the maintenance!". It's just a diesel truck with some things in strange locations, and some extra headaches in others. The wheels/tires/brakes are the only things that are a pain. And those have such long service periods, that I'd hardly balk at a vehicle for something like that. Finding parts is easy for now, most guys who plan to use it as a BOV have spare parts already. Some guys load outs for Moab trips are fairly extensive, as well. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:44:03 PM
[Last Edit: 8/9/2012 3:07:05 PM by LowBeta]
Slightly different theory of bug out, I kind of like the Stemme S10-VT self launching glider. goes long way with little fuel, very quiet absolutely dead silent when the motor is off. .
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:45:58 PM
Originally Posted By MaverickH1:
Oh, by the way, for the folks that haven't heard, the semi-official word is that AM General will be producing Humvee KITS in the near future. No powertrain. A rolling vehicle. Soft top. Soft doors. $60k is the rumored price. Way too damn steep if you ask me, but we'll see. Actually, that'd be interesting, since I have sources for power plants that would work. Like you said though, too steep given what the final cost will be once you factor in even my cost on the engine and then labor and misc parts that are always needed. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:47:38 PM
Originally Posted By JeepCommando401:
Originally Posted By wag_bag:
There are several vehicles I would rather have than an old ass humvee. I have a nice fleet of K5 Blazers that are EXCELLENT BOV's. Easy to fix or modify. Can go anywhere. Parts are CHEAP!!!!Pics of said fleet! |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:49:40 PM
I can remember thinking, "Cool, we get to make the trip in HMMWVs!"
That lasted one trip.
Then it was, "Fuck, we're stuck with the HMMVWs."
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:50:12 PM
That reminds me of the Gyro Captain
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:50:36 PM
Originally Posted By wingnutx:
I can remember thinking, "Cool, we get to make the trip in HMMWVs!" That lasted one trip. Then it was, "Fuck, we're stuck with the HMMVWs." Not too surprising since the military ones are SHIT for travel.  |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:53:16 PM
Originally Posted By Remyrw:
Originally Posted By MaverickH1:
Oh, by the way, for the folks that haven't heard, the semi-official word is that AM General will be producing Humvee KITS in the near future. No powertrain. A rolling vehicle. Soft top. Soft doors. $60k is the rumored price. Way too damn steep if you ask me, but we'll see. Actually, that'd be interesting, since I have sources for power plants that would work. Like you said though, too steep given what the final cost will be once you factor in even my cost on the engine and then labor and misc parts that are always needed. There was a rumor floating around that the Steyr diesel was going to be used as an option... If memory serves me correctly, it's a one piece diesel engine in a way that it doesn't have a head gasket. Since the head gasket is the weakest point of the diesel engine for compression... the compression ratio is very, very high. The engine was a relatively light one with power at 300 hp, and torque at 550 or so while weight only 550 pounds. The kit Humvees (called C Models at this time, due to the name still being owned by GM) are said to already have the body lift required to fit numerous engines (like the Alpha). Could be interesting... but that's a heavy price to pay. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:59:58 PM
I have always been under the impression that you want to fly under the radar in a SHTF situation. Cant remember where I read it but I saw an article by a guy that had been through a few SHTF situations in Africa. He said the most important thing was a backpack with essentials and a small concealable pistol. Large weapons were confiscated by LE/MIL. With that being said, a Humvee doesn't seem too inconspicuous. If I was looking to rob someone for supplies, a person driving a Humvee would be pretty high on the list of places to start.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:03:56 PM
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Originally Posted By beemerman:
Can you buy one surplus and, would it be worth it? How much for one and can you get parts? No you can't see out of your right side mirror, it's wide, the fact the engine is governed sucks, they have lousy gas millage, and you aren't getting any uparmored humvees. I prefer LMTV's or FMTV's. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:04:28 PM
Originally Posted By texassooner:
I have always been under the impression that you want to fly under the radar in a SHTF situation. Cant remember where I read it but I saw an article by a guy that had been through a few SHTF situations in Africa. He said the most important thing was a backpack with essentials and a small concealable pistol. Large weapons were confiscated by LE/MIL. With that being said, a Humvee doesn't seem too inconspicuous. If I was looking to rob someone for supplies, a person driving a Humvee would be pretty high on the list of places to start. On one hand, I agree. On the other, I find this logic to be the same as "if you open carry you're just going to be the first one to be shot". People tend to not fuck with the people that can end them. While a Humvee can make for a target by saying "they're prepared for this, let's get 'em!", it also has the effect of "good lord, they're prepared for this, we probably shouldn't fuck with 'em". But I don't disagree with you. I'm mixed. :) |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:05:54 PM
Originally Posted By MaverickH1:
Originally Posted By Howie_Phelterbush:
Originally Posted By MaverickH1:
Originally Posted By wesmerc:
tacoma/hilux is better in almost every measurable way Every measurable way? Oh, do you mean ground clearance, vertical step capability, water fording ability, approach angle, breakover angle, departure angle, torque, side slope capability, and towing capacity? Which one of those is the Hilux better at? And where's the proof? fitting between a boulder and a big ass tree. that wide piece of shit of a hummvee won't go down a jeep trail. and thats provided the piece of shit transmission doesn't blow out. Thank you for your well thought out, intelligent response. Yes, a Humvee is wider than a Jeep and other light duty off road-ish vehicles. That can present a problem in certain environments, and why many off road enthusiasts prefer nimbler, narrower vehicles. That doesn't make the Humvee a "piece of shit" as you so eloquently put it. This one thing doesn't make a Hilux better in "every measurable way", does it? To put it simply, the transmission isn't a "piece of shit". Your right the tranny aint to bad but the motor is junk |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:08:50 PM
Originally Posted By Use_the_2nd:
Originally Posted By MaverickH1:
Originally Posted By Howie_Phelterbush:
Originally Posted By MaverickH1:
Originally Posted By wesmerc:
tacoma/hilux is better in almost every measurable way Every measurable way? Oh, do you mean ground clearance, vertical step capability, water fording ability, approach angle, breakover angle, departure angle, torque, side slope capability, and towing capacity? Which one of those is the Hilux better at? And where's the proof? fitting between a boulder and a big ass tree. that wide piece of shit of a hummvee won't go down a jeep trail. and thats provided the piece of shit transmission doesn't blow out. Thank you for your well thought out, intelligent response. Yes, a Humvee is wider than a Jeep and other light duty off road-ish vehicles. That can present a problem in certain environments, and why many off road enthusiasts prefer nimbler, narrower vehicles. That doesn't make the Humvee a "piece of shit" as you so eloquently put it. This one thing doesn't make a Hilux better in "every measurable way", does it? To put it simply, the transmission isn't a "piece of shit". Your right the tranny aint to bad but the motor is junk It's not powerful compared to today's standards. But the 6.2 is a reliable engine. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:13:12 PM
I think I would rather have something like a BRDM-2. Could probably pick them up surplus, they are lightly armored, have the wheels in the center to help prevent you from a high center situation. The few times Motor-T allowed me to drive a HMMWV I was not impressed. Used to get them stuck in the ruts our tanks would leave in the mud all the time.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:15:07 PM
Originally Posted By Maine_11B_to_Nurse:
Originally Posted By Peremalfait:
The gov signed a contract with AM General to never resell used mil Humvees. A few dozen 1987's got out but that's it. If you see a later model for sale it's stolen. A lot are. They're fun to drive if you leave all the crap off. No armor or doors. With all the weight and limited visibility the Turtle Back models aren't so fun. They get 18mpg. They're easy to work on and use mostly GM parts. The 6.5L engine is the same one in every ambulance and tow truck on the road. Gotta be more than a few dozen. There are a couple around here alone. Some volunteer SAR units got them at one time. DEEMI (a local unit) has a very sweet one, completely gone through. It is registered for the road. 'Course, we did have the rebuilding/refitting depot up at the old Loring AFB for a while, wouldn't surprise me if some "leaked" out that way too. Dermo'd trucks are different. They got out through a reuse/give away program to local PD and fire groups. Sometimes one of those can be found for sale, but again sale of a used Humvee is illegal (on paper) and not legal for street use in most states. The people who signed for the trucks at your SAR group stated they would NOT resell them. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:16:08 PM
Originally Posted By MaverickH1:
The number I heard is that about 600 Humvees were sold legally. Mostly 1985 and 86 models. Yup. Some at 29 Palms, some in Riverside, some went east. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:24:08 PM
I'd much rather have a Volvo C303.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:25:06 PM
I don't really how good they are off-road but I know we broke a bunch of Pittman arms doing pretty mild stuff on my first deployment.
My buddy has a Pinzgauer. He bought it sight unseen in Utah (IIRC) and drove it back to NC. I want a HiLux.  |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:35:01 PM
Originally Posted By Gilly:
I don't really how good they are off-road but I know we broke a bunch of Pittman arms doing pretty mild stuff on my first deployment. Yup, that was one of the weak points in the steering/suspension system that has been fixed since. And can be fixed on early models by replacing with a newer model arm. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:41:26 PM
Meh.....there are better options, imho.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 4:00:06 PM
I have spent a fair amount of time in HMMWVs in the past and was never particularly impressed with them. They are oversized for number of passengers and cargo they are actually able to carry, underpowered to the point of best being described as anemic and overhyped. I might not mind having one as a novelty, but my old Dodge Ram 2500 4WD with a 12 valve CTD and 5 speed manual transmission makes for a better BOV. What little it loses to the HMMWV in sheer offroad capability(which you likely won't be using in an evacuation anyhow) it more than makes up for in hauling capacity, towing capacity, power, cabin capacity and comfort, supportability and gray man factor. And it does it at a far less buy in price.
These threads where people labor under the delusion that during some crisis forcing an evacuation they are going to do some Rubicon trail or Moab type recreational offroading are always amusing. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 4:14:32 PM
110 Defender for the win Alex.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 4:20:32 PM
I don't want a BOV to LOOK like a BOV.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 4:23:35 PM
No.
To high profile and terrible fuel mileage. I'd say that a mid 90's XJ is the way to go. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 4:27:02 PM
Originally Posted By beemerman:
Can you buy one surplus and, would it be worth it? How much for one and can you get parts? I thought the deuce and a half was the ultimate BOV. In the latest Diesel Power magazine there was an article on power upgrades to keep up with the additional weight of the up-armoring. I wonder how what a modified Duramax tuned to, say , 650 or so HP would do for a Humvee. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 4:32:26 PM
The humvee won't even come close to fitting on any trail. Even Jeep trails get tight for Jeeps.
Humvees handle pretty good on the street or flat dirt open areas. IIRC most of the components are off the shelf. If I had a farm somewhere and I wanted a mud slinging machine I would entertain the idea of getting one if the price was right. Believe it or not......a CJ7 is a roomy luxury vehicle compared to a Humvee. Get a Jeep, parts are everywhere, and they'll go anywhere. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 4:35:28 PM
Originally Posted By Aspp:
Ehhh, I hated working on them, they are heavy even striped down, will not survice a frount end collision, and are gutless. Get a Toyota Tacoma, or a south american 4Runner with the diesel. You would be better served, they wheel better, are lighter, get great milage, and are able to get over 55mph. For that noob who said they get 18mpg, your on crack and forgot the decimil. The 6.5TD would only get about 11mpg in a 3/4 pickup that whieghs in a lot less than that hmmwv, how in the fuck would you get 18mpg in a vehicle with a final drive ratio of 8.9 to one in 4th gear??? It doesnt have an overdrive transmission, it has geared hubs (4 to 1s) and 3.73 ring gears, not a chance in hell. Troll. And yes I had a Dodge Cummins that got 23mpg freeway and 16mpg in town, only cost me about 6k in machine work and mods. odd I got 21mpg around town and that was dogging on my 2005 cummins 4door long bed |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 4:40:08 PM
Originally Posted By Zaphod: I'd rather have my stock 4Runner... this , well sort of |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 4:41:10 PM
Originally Posted By Boomer:
These threads where people labor under the delusion that during some crisis forcing an evacuation they are going to do some Rubicon trail or Moab type recreational offroading are always amusing. Not that I have a plan, but my first instinct will be to grab the mutt and head out to the remote off road places I go to play. I'll turn a crisis into an extended vacation.  |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 5:41:21 PM
Originally Posted By MaverickH1:
Originally Posted By Howie_Phelterbush:
Originally Posted By MaverickH1:
Originally Posted By wesmerc:
tacoma/hilux is better in almost every measurable way Every measurable way? Oh, do you mean ground clearance, vertical step capability, water fording ability, approach angle, breakover angle, departure angle, torque, side slope capability, and towing capacity? Which one of those is the Hilux better at? And where's the proof? fitting between a boulder and a big ass tree. that wide piece of shit of a hummvee won't go down a jeep trail. and thats provided the piece of shit transmission doesn't blow out. Thank you for your well thought out, intelligent response. Yes, a Humvee is wider than a Jeep and other light duty off road-ish vehicles. That can present a problem in certain environments, and why many off road enthusiasts prefer nimbler, narrower vehicles. That doesn't make the Humvee a "piece of shit" as you so eloquently put it. This one thing doesn't make a Hilux better in "every measurable way", does it? To put it simply, the transmission isn't a "piece of shit". well the last guy I know with a humvee I got to watch him (i offered to help several times) extract his piece of shit transmission and replace it. it was the 3rd tranny in 112k miles. that by every definition is a piece of shit transmission. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 5:59:05 PM
Originally Posted By Howie_Phelterbush:
well the last guy I know with a humvee I got to watch him (i offered to help several times) extract his piece of shit transmission and replace it. it was the 3rd tranny in 112k miles. that by every definition is a piece of shit transmission. He had 3 brand new transmissions that were all properly installed, and they all failed? |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 6:05:44 PM
Originally Posted By 325moutguru:
110 Defender for the win Alex. Unimogs can be pretty badass too. Nope..no way a landy...spent time living outta one in a recce platoon...horrendous vehicle...unreliable..slow...uncomfortable Gimmie a FZJ 80 Toyota land cruiser in vanilla white just like UN used to use ...3rdworld rated, capable comfy and stealthy |
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