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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:00:51 AM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT “Since the beginning, there has been a rush to judgement (sic) in the case against George Zimmerman,” Zimmerman’s Attorney Mark O’Mara wrote on his website covering the defendant’s trial. “Now that the State has released the majority of their discovery, the defense asserts that there is clear support for a strong claim of self-defense. Consistent with this claim of self-defense, there will be a “Stand Your Ground” hearing,” he continued. O’Mara describes the hearing on gzlegalcase.com as a “mini-trial” without the jury, and Zimmerman’s murder charges will only be dropped if the judge finds that the suspect shot Martin out of fear for his life. http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/state/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-case-stand-your-ground-hearing-could-clear-zimmerman-of-charges |
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RaisedByWolves
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:02:38 AM
Heads will explode.
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South_Side_Shooter
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:04:05 AM
Originally Posted By RaisedByWolves:
Heads will explode. Wailing and gnashing of teeth. I need to head to the store....... |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:05:51 AM
Originally Posted By RaisedByWolves:
Heads will explode. I'll need to get more ammo .......I mean popcorn |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:07:55 AM
Yeah. Bias article is bias.
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TLD05
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:09:35 AM
Will the judge commit political suicide in the name of justice?
I'm not so sure. |
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Bama-Shooter
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:10:54 AM
Originally Posted By TLD05:
Will the judge commit political suicide in the name of justice? I'm not so sure. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:11:03 AM
Originally Posted By RaisedByWolves:
Heads will explode. If only... |
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HUMONGO
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:15:13 AM
And if it is tossed, the PD needs a full retraction from the media who vilified them for not arresting him.
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gopeterson
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:17:38 AM
Originally Posted By TLD05:
Will the judge commit political suicide in the name of justice? I'm not so sure. Doubtful. Wonder if it is immediately appealable. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:18:21 AM
Originally Posted By TLD05:
Will the judge commit political suicide in the name of justice? I'm not so sure. Kind like Civil cases. Judge says I Don't know. I'll let the Jury decide. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:19:24 AM
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Originally Posted By TLD05:
Will the judge commit political suicide in the name of justice? I'm not so sure. This is why judges should be elected for life or have single term limits. |
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pale_pony
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:23:23 AM
Never happen outside of an appeals court. This judge is in the tank for the media.
Justice has no place in that particular courtroom. We've already seen that with the bond hearing. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:23:50 AM
Originally Posted By RaisedByWolves:
Heads will explode. I fuckin hope so. that guy has been railroaded. If he is found innocent, I wish there was a way for him to sue the shit outa people. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:24:24 AM
Originally Posted By RaisedByWolves:
Heads will explode. Good news there. Should lower the crime and welfare rate. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:28:07 AM
About time they let him go... A travesty and stinging indictment of our failing politically centered justice system! So much FAIL (criminally charge the prosecutor, judges and anyone else who usurped Zim's rights to defend his person)
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BustinCaps
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:29:22 AM
[Last Edit: 8/9/2012 8:29:51 AM by BustinCaps]
His release is exactly what liberals want. They don't care about justice in this case. They care about trying to sway public opinion against the trend toward making criminals victims. Hell, right now they are just trying to close the floodgates an inch. Don't let them.
When it comes to anything the likes of Obama inject their opinions and weight into, you can bet justice is the last thing on anyones mind. It's all about propaganda. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:29:50 AM
fingers crossed
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HommieDaKlown
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:30:02 AM
[Last Edit: 8/9/2012 8:34:36 AM by HommieDaKlown]
Originally Posted By RaisedByWolves: Heads will explode. The judge has already indicated he is very biased. This will not go in Zimmerman's favor, and ultimately not in the favor for Floridians. There is already legal precedent in the state with at least the Podany case being the most similar to this one except both the victim and the aggressor were white. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:30:51 AM
In before the riots
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:32:14 AM
Originally Posted By BustinCaps:
His release is exactly what liberals want. They don't care about justice in this case. They care about trying to sway public opinion against the trend toward making criminals victims. Hell, right now they are just trying to close the floodgates an inch. Don't let them. When it comes to anything the likes of Obama inject their opinions and weight into, you can bet justice is the last thing on anyones mind. It's all about propaganda. Impartial justice is the last thing I expect to be respected. |
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VACaver
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:33:24 AM
If dropped, some other charge is sure to follow.
Zimmerman will not walk on this...Obama/Holder will never let it happen. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:34:31 AM
Heard some guy on CNN last night talking about how if tougher gun laws were in place that 17 year old in FL would still be alive. Of course they failed to mention that if that were the case Zimmerman would have been killed instead.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:34:49 AM
Either way, this will be ugly. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:36:14 AM
[Last Edit: 8/9/2012 8:37:01 AM by gopeterson]
Originally Posted By BustinCaps:
His release is exactly what liberals want. They don't care about justice in this case. They care about trying to sway public opinion against the trend toward making criminals victims. Hell, right now they are just trying to close the floodgates an inch. Don't let them. When it comes to anything the likes of Obama inject their opinions and weight into, you can bet justice is the last thing on anyones mind. It's all about propaganda. The Obama camp fears a pre-election dismissal more than just about anything. The riots will drive voters away from him in droves and his people know that. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:36:33 AM
They're still reporting this? I thought this died months ago and the new talk was the Colorado shooting and now the Milwaukee shooting
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Admiral_Crunch
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:36:47 AM
Originally Posted By underdogII: Kind like Civil cases. Judge says I Don't know. I'll let the Jury decide. Probably this. |
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Blaculo
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:37:42 AM
First off, this should not be a SYG case as there is no ability to retreat when you're on the ground getting punched.
Second, I hope George walks and that his most vocal opponents show more of their true colors. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:37:59 AM
[Last Edit: 8/9/2012 8:43:49 AM by gopeterson]
Originally Posted By Daps:
They're still reporting this? I thought this died months ago and the new talk was the Colorado shooting and now the Milwaukee shooting It's called a development. Sometimes something new comes about and the media likes to report upon it.  |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:38:27 AM
Was this the case where the victim was the presidents son ?
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:41:24 AM
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rather they cast the first stone......(and by they, I mean people who are trying to use this as a launchpad for their libtard-speak-thought)
eta: ) because I forgot it |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:43:04 AM
Originally Posted By gopeterson: +1Originally Posted By Daps: They're still reporting this? I thought this died months ago and the new talk was the Colorado shooting and now the Milwaukee shooting It's called a development. Sometimes something new stuff comes about and the media likes to report upon it. Before this it was the Kenneth Harding shooting (You know, the fine, upstanding murder suspect that was "murdered" by the SFPD for not paying his bus fare) |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:43:08 AM
Standing by for verdict.
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BustinCaps
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:44:04 AM
Originally Posted By gopeterson:
Originally Posted By BustinCaps:
His release is exactly what liberals want. They don't care about justice in this case. They care about trying to sway public opinion against the trend toward making criminals victims. Hell, right now they are just trying to close the floodgates an inch. Don't let them. When it comes to anything the likes of Obama inject their opinions and weight into, you can bet justice is the last thing on anyones mind. It's all about propaganda. The Obama camp fears a pre-election dismissal more than just about anything. The riots will drive voters away from him in droves and his people know that. If they feared it, they wouldn't have made it a national issue. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:46:29 AM
Originally Posted By TLD05:
Will the judge commit political suicide in the name of justice? I'm not so sure. life time appointment? or is he a state judge? |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:47:09 AM
Originally Posted By TLD05:
Will the judge commit political suicide in the name of justice? I'm not so sure. no the fix is in. judge is gonna let a jury decide. or let zimmerman break on take a plea deal before they send his ass off to hardcore prison and gen pop target. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:50:21 AM
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Will the judge commit political suicide in the name of justice? I'm not so sure. IMHO, Z-man should be cleared in a SYG hearing. The Judge, who takes an oath and gets tax payer perks to protect his person being, should take that responsibility upon his shoulders. Otherwise, he is going to be asking 12 members of the general public, whose names will be made public eventually to take on that responsibility. Do you think they will want to make an unbiased choice with no fear of the repercussions? |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:58:34 AM
Originally Posted By South_Side_Shooter:
Originally Posted By RaisedByWolves:
Heads will explode. Wailing and gnashing of teeth. I need to head to the store....... Wringing of hands. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:59:41 AM
Originally Posted By BustinCaps:
Originally Posted By gopeterson:
Originally Posted By BustinCaps:
His release is exactly what liberals want. They don't care about justice in this case. They care about trying to sway public opinion against the trend toward making criminals victims. Hell, right now they are just trying to close the floodgates an inch. Don't let them. When it comes to anything the likes of Obama inject their opinions and weight into, you can bet justice is the last thing on anyones mind. It's all about propaganda. The Obama camp fears a pre-election dismissal more than just about anything. The riots will drive voters away from him in droves and his people know that. If they feared it, they wouldn't have made it a national issue. Kidding, right? He was asked about it in a press conference. Unaided by his Teleprompter he stepped on his dick. He thought he could use the event to help his election, but now has to worry about it killing any chance for reelection. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 9:00:49 AM
Anybody know what time this hearing is going to take place?
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Posted: 8/9/2012 9:03:33 AM
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Originally Posted By Sumo:
Anybody know what time this hearing is going to take place? Cynical me says it will likely be November 7. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 9:08:22 AM
Originally Posted By Blaculo:
First off, this should not be a SYG case as there is no ability to retreat when you're on the ground getting punched. Second, I hope George walks and that his most vocal opponents show more of their true colors. Exactly. I'm still not sure why they keep using SYG as justification. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 9:08:54 AM
Judge at the hearing will be racist.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 9:10:05 AM
Originally Posted By RaisedByWolves:
Heads will explode. Hopefully the prosecutor's head will explode on CNN. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 9:10:08 AM
After the scathing decision the Judge wrote about Zimmerman's bail review I am less confident that he will be exonerated at the Stand Your Ground hearing. I originally did not see how the government could get past this hearing, but this Judge seems to be seething over Zimmerman not disclosing the paypal money. I can see the judge claiming that the friend of Martin who says it was Martin screaming for help and Zimmerman's past history of violent acts created a question of fact for the jury.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 9:11:26 AM
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Originally Posted By Hyperformer:
Originally Posted By Blaculo:
First off, this should not be a SYG case as there is no ability to retreat when you're on the ground getting punched. Second, I hope George walks and that his most vocal opponents show more of their true colors. Exactly. I'm still not sure why they keep using SYG as justification. So if it is not a SYG case why exactly is the defense asking for a SYG hearing? Maybe you should write them and let them know of their mistake. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 9:12:03 AM
Originally Posted By Hyperformer: "Stand Your Ground " is just the common name for the lkaw because (I assume) it removed some requirements Florida had to retreat. It's basically an extra hearing a defendant gets in a case where he is claiming self defense, it sounds like it's basically a mini trial without a jury.Originally Posted By Blaculo: First off, this should not be a SYG case as there is no ability to retreat when you're on the ground getting punched. Second, I hope George walks and that his most vocal opponents show more of their true colors. Exactly. I'm still not sure why they keep using SYG as justification. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 9:24:38 AM
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By Hyperformer:
"Stand Your Ground " is just the common name for the lkaw because (I assume) it removed some requirements Florida had to retreat. It's basically an extra hearing a defendant gets in a case where he is claiming self defense, it sounds like it's basically a mini trial without a jury.
Originally Posted By Blaculo:
First off, this should not be a SYG case as there is no ability to retreat when you're on the ground getting punched. Second, I hope George walks and that his most vocal opponents show more of their true colors. Exactly. I'm still not sure why they keep using SYG as justification. You are correct. All SYG did was essentially extend castle doctrine outside the home. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 9:26:13 AM
The fix is already in, there will be a trial, not sure it will be a fair one.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 9:34:14 AM
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Originally Posted By HUMONGO:
And if it is tossed, the PD needs a full retraction from the media who vilified them for not arresting him. LOL, good one. ETA, To someone old enough to remember the shameless way the media lied about the Rodney King case and incited the riots, the idea of the media apologizing for fomenting racial strife is funny indeed. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 9:39:25 AM
Originally Posted By pale_pony: Never happen outside of an appeals court. This judge is in the tank for the media. Justice has no place in that particular courtroom. We've already seen that with the bond hearing. I'll buy that for a dollar! |
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