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Posted: 8/9/2012 9:44:23 AM
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
Originally Posted By Bradders:
Originally Posted By sherrick13:
But hey they can own pistols over there. Really. Well, not really. Only if you are really special, can you own a pistol. And only then at the club. And the cost prohibits most everyone. wrong But hey, they can own single shot ARs. In the club. wrong But hey. They can own a double barrel shotgun and even keep it at home. But the ammo has to be separate. wrong And they can't use it on a person that is trying to break in their home. wrong But did I say they could, sort of, own pistols? But wtf does having the correct facts or the ability of owning a handgun have to do with this? It always boils down to the same thing with you. Have you nothing else to offer. You're a cop, and therefore supposed to be intelligent wrong
Try proving that to me ![]() |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 9:50:51 AM
Originally Posted By 40xb-shooter: TEXAS. I guess that's why you don't mess with it ![]() |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:05:58 AM
Originally Posted By WinstonSmith:
What the fuck, Chuck? You pulled a canuckcanuck on us? There's no life out there man, I was in the void for 4 days. ![]() |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:10:37 AM
Originally Posted By Agent_Funky:
Sherrick is a cop????? ![]()
Holy fuck, they gave a retread like that a badge? That's hilarious. I thought he cleaned toilets or something. 5 years and you did not know that? He also teaches econ at the local college, or used to. TXL |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:10:39 AM
Originally Posted By Rogue_UK:
Originally Posted By 40xb-shooter:
TEXAS. I guess that's why you don't mess with it
Yep. In my state if someone forces entry into your home/car/business while you are there and you are in fear of death or great bodily harm you can use deadly force. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:17:05 AM
Originally Posted By targettarget:
Originally Posted By retgarr:
Holy shit, TT discovered that Canada has news outlets! I wouldn't call the CBC "news", but I digress. Hey, we once fucked up an empire essentially because our newspapers were bored. Don't talk to me about bad news outlets! ![]() |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:18:33 AM
Originally Posted By 40xb-shooter:
Originally Posted By Rogue_UK:
Tony Martin shot a burglar in the back when they were trying to escape. In how many states would that be a "good shoot"? And how on earth is a fleeing burglar such a dangerous threat to your physical safety that you need to kill them in self defence? I'm all for standing your ground, castle doctrine and so forth, but Tony Martin is not the person you want to offer as a good example. Have a read of this. Householder/other victim not prosecuted
Examples of Prosecutions
TEXAS. Virginia. No castle doctrine but case law supports ventilating scum who invade your home up to the point they are no longer in your home. Too bad if they turn their back to me. I still reasonably fear for my life until they are no longer in my house. who is to say they can't suddenly turn and attack you. Continue firing until the threat is eliminated, ie they are dead or completely outside your home. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:19:05 AM
Are these the same people who once had a global empire?
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:23:32 AM
Originally Posted By Lancair:
Originally Posted By scottedward58:
Originally Posted By Agent_Funky:
Originally Posted By Bradders:
Originally Posted By sherrick13:
But hey they can own pistols over there. Really. Well, not really. Only if you are really special, can you own a pistol. And only then at the club. And the cost prohibits most everyone. wrong But hey, they can own single shot ARs. In the club. wrong But hey. They can own a double barrel shotgun and even keep it at home. But the ammo has to be separate. wrong And they can't use it on a person that is trying to break in their home. wrong But did I say they could, sort of, own pistols? But wtf does having the correct facts or the ability of owning a handgun have to do with this? It always boils down to the same thing with you. Have you nothing else to offer. You're a cop, and therefore supposed to be intelligent
Try proving that to me Sherrick is a cop????? ![]()
Holy fuck, they gave a retread like that a badge? That's hilarious. I thought he cleaned toilets or something. I'm going to need to see actual statutes on these, I would have sworn that they were all true. There was fairly recently a case that made the news about a guy who shot a home invader with a shotgun over there and even though the shot was clearly selfdefence by even the strictest standard he was still charged with all sorts of crap like not storing the ammunition properly. It's amusing how you demand documentary proof for their assertions, and then proceed to in the next sentence make a completely unsupported assertion yourself. Americans: no one is denying you have the best access to firearms in the world. You don't need to repeat it over and over again. If we could all flick a switch and change our countries' gun laws to yours, I bet every single foreign Arfcommer would do it. That doesn't mean we'll stand for y'all rubbishing our countries (some of which we're perfectly happy living in) with made-up lies. Love, the rest of the world. Painting with a broad brush there aren't you? Yeah, if someone says something dumb on this site, they are likely from the US. The vast majority of members here are from this country. But take notice of how many of us AREN'T saying that crap. You commonwealthers, always stereotyping us Americans! ![]() |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:26:51 AM
[Last Edit: 8/9/2012 10:27:21 AM by bcw107]
Originally Posted By Rogue_UK:
Tony Martin shot a burglar in the back when they were trying to escape. In how many states would that be a "good shoot"? And how on earth is a fleeing burglar such a dangerous threat to your physical safety that you need to kill them in self defence? I'm all for standing your ground, castle doctrine and so forth, but Tony Martin is not the person you want to offer as a good example. <––- Ahem. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:31:16 AM
Originally Posted By ridinshotgun: Virginia. No castle doctrine but case law supports ventilating scum who invade your home up to the point they are no longer in your home. Too bad if they turn their back to me. I still reasonably fear for my life until they are no longer in my house. who is to say they can't suddenly turn and attack you. Continue firing until the threat is eliminated, ie they are dead or completely outside your home. And personally I have no problem whatsoever with them being fair game until they get their hairy thieving pikey arses across your property line. However, we started from someone referring to self defence cases that were clear-cut even under the most stringent and toughest interpretation, then quoting as an example the case of a farmer shooting someone in the back as they tried to run away. My point is that Tony Martin really isn't a good example of "self defence" even for the US as I suspect it would only be a good shoot in a handful of the more enlightened states. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:32:21 AM
Originally Posted By retgarr: Painting with a broad brush there aren't you? Yeah, if someone says something dumb on this site, they are likely from the US. The vast majority of members here are from this country. But take notice of how many of us AREN'T saying that crap. You commonwealthers, always stereotyping us Americans! ![]() Yeah, that's true, I'm just as good as saying dumb stuff as any one of you Americans ![]() |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:32:59 AM
Originally Posted By bcw107: <––- Ahem. Ok, ok we get it, Texas and Virginia are awesome ![]() |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:35:12 AM
Originally Posted By Rogue_UK:
Originally Posted By retgarr:
Painting with a broad brush there aren't you? Yeah, if someone says something dumb on this site, they are likely from the US. The vast majority of members here are from this country. But take notice of how many of us AREN'T saying that crap. You commonwealthers, always stereotyping us Americans! ![]() Yeah, that's true, I'm just as good as saying dumb stuff as any one of you Americans
No you're not! WE'RE NUMBER 1! USA! USA! USA! ...wait |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:39:29 AM
[Last Edit: 8/9/2012 10:40:17 AM by Rogue_UK]
Originally Posted By retgarr: No you're not! WE'RE NUMBER 1! USA! USA! USA! ...wait I've always thought of you more as Number 2s ![]() Edited to add: For clarity, I'm taking the Number 1 ![]() |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:44:41 AM
Originally Posted By Rogue_UK:
Originally Posted By bcw107:
<––- Ahem. Ok, ok we get it, Texas and Virginia are awesome
Don't be mad.
I really like the UK.......for say holiday but fuck all for living there. As much as I hate how things are here I am oh so glad when I get off the plane and touch American soil even with the tards currently in power. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:17:48 AM
Well why don't some of our brothers or sisters from countries overseas educate us on what their gun laws are? Just a brief synopsis for those of us poorly informed.
We hear so much rhetoric over here that we don't know what the actual laws are over in GBR or Australia. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:22:29 AM
Originally Posted By Pushrod_Paul: Well why don't some of our brothers or sisters from countries overseas educate us on what their gun laws are? Just a brief synopsis for those of us poorly informed. We hear so much rhetoric over here that we don't know what the actual laws are over in GBR or Australia. have a look here for pictures or here for words |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:26:55 AM
Originally Posted By UKjohn:
Originally Posted By Pushrod_Paul:
Well why don't some of our brothers or sisters from countries overseas educate us on what their gun laws are? Just a brief synopsis for those of us poorly informed. We hear so much rhetoric over here that we don't know what the actual laws are over in GBR or Australia. have a look here for pictures or here for words Contrary to popular opinion and my personal attempts at brit bashing, you guys have some NICE shit. ![]() |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:32:16 AM
Originally Posted By 36_gauge:
Originally Posted By UKjohn:
Originally Posted By Pushrod_Paul:
Well why don't some of our brothers or sisters from countries overseas educate us on what their gun laws are? Just a brief synopsis for those of us poorly informed. We hear so much rhetoric over here that we don't know what the actual laws are over in GBR or Australia. have a look here for pictures or here for words Contrary to popular opinion and my personal attempts at brit bashing, you guys have some NICE shit. ![]() Frankly, the significant investment of time and money to own and shoot over there seems to keep the Taurus Judge/Mossberg Abortions at bay. Bolt actions also seem to attract a more serious kind of shooter. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:33:18 AM
Originally Posted By 36_gauge: Originally Posted By UKjohn: Originally Posted By Pushrod_Paul: Well why don't some of our brothers or sisters from countries overseas educate us on what their gun laws are? Just a brief synopsis for those of us poorly informed. We hear so much rhetoric over here that we don't know what the actual laws are over in GBR or Australia. have a look here for pictures or here for words Contrary to popular opinion and my personal attempts at brit bashing, you guys have some NICE shit. ![]() glad to see you back , |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:37:14 AM
Originally Posted By UKjohn:
Originally Posted By 36_gauge:
Originally Posted By UKjohn:
Originally Posted By Pushrod_Paul:
Well why don't some of our brothers or sisters from countries overseas educate us on what their gun laws are? Just a brief synopsis for those of us poorly informed. We hear so much rhetoric over here that we don't know what the actual laws are over in GBR or Australia. have a look here for pictures or here for words Contrary to popular opinion and my personal attempts at brit bashing, you guys have some NICE shit. ![]() glad to see you back , Thanks man |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:38:24 AM
I will admit I put a staple into my thumb once when I was trying to open an older front loading stapler several years ago.
It had a hinge that you had to pull up on and swing it out to load in staples. It wasn't stapling so I figured it was out. I go to push up on the hinge to swing it out and bam, the stapler popped a staple into my thumb. It stung a little but it wasn't even a big deal. My thumb was very mildly sore for a day or two.
Am I going to suggest staplers be banned? No just don't be a fucking moron. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:53:31 AM
Once again, TT works GD into an intercontinental lather with a solitary poast-n-run.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:01:34 PM
Originally Posted By AnalogKid: Once again, TT works GD into an intercontinental lather with a solitary poast-n-run. Golf clap.jpg i was just going to say that , fuckin top hat dwelling , milk bag drinking , pistol boiling , tapco bustin , lumberjack |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:14:38 PM
For those that are really concerned, this is a stapler thread and not a gun thread.
And remember all you lot, all this criticizing is coming from the people of a nation that won't even allow Kinder eggs ![]() |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:16:46 PM
Originally Posted By Bradders: For those that are really concerned, this is a stapler thread and not a gun thread. And remember all you lot, all this criticizing is coming from the people of a nation that won't even allow Kinder eggs ![]() is that so ![]() |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:20:50 PM
Originally Posted By ZW17: Props to my boys across the pond putting on the clinic in this thread. Much love from this ARFcommer. I'd just like to stress again... Yeah they have some fucked up laws, these guys know it, they have to live with it everyday .There is no need to rub it in their faces that's just being a dick. Don't be a dick. Fuck off, thought police. The british are a nannied race ruled and fed by fat mothers that they elect. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:21:16 PM
Originally Posted By dttheliman:
Originally Posted By Agent_Funky:
Originally Posted By scottedward58:
Originally Posted By Agent_Funky:
Originally Posted By Bradders:
Originally Posted By sherrick13:
Blah Blah Blah meh LOL But But But. O rly Link 1 Link 87 Oh Tony Martin again. The farmer who, using a gun which he did not have lawful authority to possess, laid in wait for two scumbags that had been snooping round his property over previous nights and ambushed them, shooting them both in the back as they fled the scene, killing one and maiming another. He made some serious mistakes and paid the price for his stupidity. He served less than three years in prison on a manslaughter charge and was released. Now don't get me wrong. I have no problem with Martin gunning down two intruders if he thought is life was in danger (and neither would the law, as UK law allows for a pre-emptive strike using lethal force if the circumstances, as seen by the defender at the time, warrant such action, but laid in wait for them and he shot them both in the back with an illegally held gun.....(he could have had it legally if he'd filled in a few forms and paid his £50 fee for his 5 year ticket). With the best will in the world, and much as the scum deserved it, Martin broke the law in several ways and was prosecuted accordingly. Incidentally, the court case where the surviving Fearon scumbag tried to sue Martin was thrown out of court when photos of him cycling around without apparent ill effects from his injuries were presented to the court. He went on to have an unimpressive career as a heroin dealer, car thief, fraudster and general shitstain on the UK public. His loss, had Martin been successful in killking Fearon, would not have been something many would have cried over. Fred Barras on the other hand ended up Brown Bread and has since never bothered anyone....... kilt by teh birdshot (whoodathunkit) |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:22:53 PM
and once they had an empire
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:22:59 PM
Originally Posted By 40xb-shooter:
Originally Posted By Rogue_UK:
Originally Posted By 40xb-shooter:
TEXAS. I guess that's why you don't mess with it
Yep. In my state if someone forces entry into your home/car/business while you are there and you are in fear of death or great bodily harm you can use deadly force. You can in the UK. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:24:14 PM
Originally Posted By UKjohn:
Originally Posted By Bradders:
For those that are really concerned, this is a stapler thread and not a gun thread. And remember all you lot, all this criticizing is coming from the people of a nation that won't even allow Kinder eggs ![]() is that so
Yes, they banned them Fucking pussies ![]() |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:25:04 PM
Originally Posted By Bradders:
For those that are really concerned, this is a stapler thread and not a gun thread. And remember all you lot, all this criticizing is coming from the people of a nation that won't even allow Kinder eggs ![]() You have got to be fucking kidding me..........
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:26:46 PM
Originally Posted By Bradders:
Originally Posted By sherrick13:
But hey they can own pistols over there. Really. Well, not really. Only if you are really special, can you own a pistol. And only then at the club. And the cost prohibits most everyone. wrong But hey, they can own single shot ARs. In the club. wrong But hey. They can own a double barrel shotgun and even keep it at home. But the ammo has to be separate. wrong And they can't use it on a person that is trying to break in their home. wrong But did I say they could, sort of, own pistols? But wtf does having the correct facts or the ability of owning a handgun have to do with this? It always boils down to the same thing with you. Have you nothing else to offer. You're a cop, and therefore supposed to be intelligent
Try proving that to me Care to expound? The UK hasn't been a place for free men for years. When I was over there last October the big sdcare was over "stun guns" LOL. What is the status of your firearm and self defense rights? |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:26:46 PM
Originally Posted By Bradders: Originally Posted By UKjohn: Originally Posted By Bradders: For those that are really concerned, this is a stapler thread and not a gun thread. And remember all you lot, all this criticizing is coming from the people of a nation that won't even allow Kinder eggs ![]() is that so ![]() Yes, they banned them Fucking pussies ![]() ![]() |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:28:40 PM
Originally Posted By Agent_Funky: Oh Tony Martin again. The farmer who, using a gun which he did not have lawful authority to possess, laid in wait for two scumbags that had been snooping round his property over previous nights and ambushed them, shooting them both in the back as they fled the scene, killing one and maiming another.... Huh, so there are a handful Britons left.....give it a few decades. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:28:48 PM
Originally Posted By Agent_Funky:
Originally Posted By Bradders:
For those that are really concerned, this is a stapler thread and not a gun thread. And remember all you lot, all this criticizing is coming from the people of a nation that won't even allow Kinder eggs ![]() You have got to be fucking kidding me..........
It's true Google are kinder eggs banned in the usa
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:30:48 PM
Originally Posted By CyberIntel:
Originally Posted By Bradders:
Originally Posted By sherrick13:
But hey they can own pistols over there. Really. Well, not really. Only if you are really special, can you own a pistol. And only then at the club. And the cost prohibits most everyone. wrong But hey, they can own single shot ARs. In the club. wrong But hey. They can own a double barrel shotgun and even keep it at home. But the ammo has to be separate. wrong And they can't use it on a person that is trying to break in their home. wrong But did I say they could, sort of, own pistols? But wtf does having the correct facts or the ability of owning a handgun have to do with this? It always boils down to the same thing with you. Have you nothing else to offer. You're a cop, and therefore supposed to be intelligent
Try proving that to me Care to expound? The UK hasn't been a place for free men for years. When I was over there last October the big sdcare was over "stun guns" LOL. What is the status of your firearm and self defense rights? Which UK was that then? Cos there have been no dramas that I can recall over stun guns. Firearms laws links have already been provided. We have guns. Some of us have lots of them. We have done this many many times. In terms of self defence we can use lethal force in a pre-emptive strike in an act of self defence. Did you get your balls felt up by the TSA as you landed in the UK? |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:31:41 PM
tag for the followup story of all the man hours spent removing staples from currently stapled documents.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:31:50 PM
Originally Posted By CyberIntel:
Originally Posted By Bradders:
Originally Posted By sherrick13:
But hey they can own pistols over there. Really. Well, not really. Only if you are really special, can you own a pistol. And only then at the club. And the cost prohibits most everyone. wrong But hey, they can own single shot ARs. In the club. wrong But hey. They can own a double barrel shotgun and even keep it at home. But the ammo has to be separate. wrong And they can't use it on a person that is trying to break in their home. wrong But did I say they could, sort of, own pistols? But wtf does having the correct facts or the ability of owning a handgun have to do with this? It always boils down to the same thing with you. Have you nothing else to offer. You're a cop, and therefore supposed to be intelligent
Try proving that to me Care to expound? The UK hasn't been a place for free men for years. When I was over there last October the big sdcare was over "stun guns" LOL. What is the status of your firearm and self defense rights? That's all been discussed before. Tell us about your Kinder egg possession rights? |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:39:54 PM
Originally Posted By Waveform:
Originally Posted By Agent_Funky:
Oh Tony Martin again. The farmer who, using a gun which he did not have lawful authority to possess, laid in wait for two scumbags that had been snooping round his property over previous nights and ambushed them, shooting them both in the back as they fled the scene, killing one and maiming another.... Huh, so there are a handful Britons left.....give it a few decades. Yeah...people keep saying that. Seems like we just won't go away though. So suck it up sweetheart, we are here to stay. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:42:01 PM
Originally Posted By LowBeta:
tag for the followup story of all the man hours spent removing staples from currently stapled documents. I reckon someone is going to get dragged into someone's office sometime this week and royally fucked for coming up with such a stupid idea. Comedy will ensue I'm sure. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:44:58 PM
[Last Edit: 8/9/2012 12:45:46 PM by Agent_Funky]
Originally Posted By Bradders:
Originally Posted By Agent_Funky:
Originally Posted By Bradders:
For those that are really concerned, this is a stapler thread and not a gun thread. And remember all you lot, all this criticizing is coming from the people of a nation that won't even allow Kinder eggs ![]() You have got to be fucking kidding me..........
It's true Google are kinder eggs banned in the usa
Fuck me!!!! You are right!!!! Arrested for possession of an illegal kinder egg !!!!!!!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Was it a high capacity Kinder Egg??? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
I remember when America had an Empire .........uh oh wait.....no...they never did
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:00:17 PM
Well this is intredasting.....
The First Amendment is a beautiful thing. So beautiful in fact that any healthy young man would want to marry it and consequently father lots of little amendments. Thanks to its existence, the septics are free to say, write or sing whatever they damn want, and that ain’t half bad. So why would it be illegal to be annoying on the internet? Is some commie trying to infringe on your God given right to be an insufferable prick online?
Indeed so. That commie’s name is George W. Bush. In 2006 the ex-president signed into law a prohibition on posting annoying Web messages or sending annoying e-mail messages without disclosing your true identity. Now, whenever you act like a brainless twat on an internet message board without providing the people there with your identity, you are in fact committing a crime. The beauty of this legislation, which was buried in the “Violence Against Women and Department of Justice Reauthorization Act.” is that it foresees stiff fines and even actual jail time (up to 2 years actually) for anyone deemed “Annoying and Anonymous” on the net. Ist Amendment.......inalienable? Looks like Dubya jumped the shark. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:03:35 PM
Those dastardly kinder eggs had to be banned, um, for the children. Yeah, that's it. Now back to those killer staplers in the UK.
If staplers are outlawed, only outlaws will have staplers. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:03:39 PM
Yes banning kinder eggs is worse than banning semi auto firearms.
I have no right to bitch since I can't own semi auto rifles either. ![]() |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:06:03 PM
Originally Posted By winchester87:
Those dastardly kinder eggs had to be banned, um, for the children. Yeah, that's it. Now back to those killer staplers in the UK. If staplers are outlawed, only outlaws will have staplers. I have a staple gun.......a high powered one. I'm planning a takeover. ![]() |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:10:17 PM
Originally Posted By Agent_Funky:
Originally Posted By Bradders:
Originally Posted By Agent_Funky:
Originally Posted By Bradders:
For those that are really concerned, this is a stapler thread and not a gun thread. And remember all you lot, all this criticizing is coming from the people of a nation that won't even allow Kinder eggs ![]() You have got to be fucking kidding me..........
It's true Google are kinder eggs banned in the usa
Fuck me!!!! You are right!!!! Arrested for possession of an illegal kinder egg !!!!!!!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
Was it a high capacity Kinder Egg??? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
I remember when America had an Empire .........uh oh wait.....no...they never did
I guess they weren't eggspecting that
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:10:41 PM
Only been around here for 10 years or so and have seen it all from fire on a plane to boiled pistols.
I think history was made in this thread. Agent Funky made Sherrick13 ––- STFU. Isn't there a special ARF plaque or other spiffy award for this? |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:11:16 PM
Originally Posted By 40xb-shooter:
Originally Posted By Rogue_UK:
Tony Martin shot a burglar in the back when they were trying to escape. In how many states would that be a "good shoot"? And how on earth is a fleeing burglar such a dangerous threat to your physical safety that you need to kill them in self defence? I'm all for standing your ground, castle doctrine and so forth, but Tony Martin is not the person you want to offer as a good example. Have a read of this. Householder/other victim not prosecuted
Examples of Prosecutions
TEXAS. Almost certainly Utah, as well. Forcible entry into someone else's house for the intent to commit crime = automatic justification for lethal force. |
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