He must of had some good shit on the city managers.

CW

looks like crwdplsr is setting it off for us tonight.

I make people mad

Missile Artillery....during peace time.... 95-99

Bell, Maywood, and Cudahy are three cities in LA County that are continually in the news - for the wrong reasons. Corruption is a way of life there. They truly are 3rd world cities.

Huge difference, you're talking "tax payers" vs "private industry" making the wages. I don't give two shits how much a coach makes, don't like the ticket price then don't go to the game. If you don't like the fact that this cop is making 500K a year, try stop paying your taxes in protest and let me know how that works out for you. The whole god damn government system from top to bottom is ass raping Americans and asking for more and more every day. At this point is squeezing water from a damn rock!

500,000 aint nothing.

The guy was making 750,000 with benefits and is currently getting $22,000 monthly on his pension. Pretty amazing. .

Most......probably about 98% of the LE jobs in America......including Chiefs of police don't make NO WHERE NEAR THAT much $$$$$......not even close.......like 1/5 of that.

nah I learned in SOI

His monthly pension is more than the monthly salary for my entire department.

Nope. Let me guess, you want me to post my DD-214 or I'm trolling?

Obviously you do give a fuck or you wouldn't have responded, senior.

His post clearly states he could give a fuck; he must.


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One salary is raped from the taxpayer at the point of a gun.
the other is a negotiated salary from the owner.

comparing apples and aircraft carriers.

Bell is a small city. You guys need to know the history of Bell to understand this. A couple years ago it came out that the city manager and the top city officials were all making $400k+ a year. The whole top level of city govt was crooked and looting the city. They got away w/ it for years because Bell is made up of a lot of illegal immigrants who can't vote and probably don't pay attention to city politics.

From Wiki:

2010 City Official Corruption Scandal

Main article: 2010 City of Bell salary controversy

In July 2010, when two Los Angeles Times reporters, Jeff Gottlieb and Ruben Vives, were investigating possible malfeasance in the neighboring city of Maywood, it was revealed that Bell city officials were receiving

unusually large salaries, perhaps the highest in the nation. The salaries came into the public eye after the newspaper's investigation, based on California Public Records Act requests, showed the city payroll was

swollen with six- to seven-figure salaries.[16] City manager Robert Rizzo received $787,637 a year (almost double the salary of the President of the United States). Including benefits, he had received $1.5 million in the

last year.[17] Rizzo's assistant, Angela Spaccia, was earning $376,288 a year, more than the top administrator for Los Angeles County.[7] The police chief, Randy Adams, was paid $457,000, 33% more than Los

Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck.[7] All three resigned following news reports and public outcry. All but one of the members of the city council were receiving $100,000 for their part-time work, salaries which were

authorized by a sparsely attended special election, [18] giving the city "Charter" status. By comparison, council members in cities similar to Bell in size make an average of $4,800 a year, prosecutors have noted.[7]

In September 2010, the California Attorney General's office filed a lawsuit against eight former and current City of Bell employees, requesting the return of what the suit calls "excessive salaries" as well a reduction in

pension benefits accrued as a result of those higher salaries.[19] Allegations about irregularities in the 2009 election also were examined by the FBI and California Secretary of State office.[20] The city's high property

taxes are also being investigated.[21]

On September 21, 2010, former city manager Robert Rizzo, Mayor Oscar Hernandez, former assistant city manager Angela Spaccia and council members George Mirabal, Teresa Jacobo, Luis Artiga, George Cole and

Victor Bello were arrested and charged with misappropriation of public funds.[22][23] The mayor and council members have all resigned or been recalled.

The revelations about the salary amounts paid to city officials in Bell led media inquires into salaries paid in other cities.[24] After a review, the L.A. Times found frequent failures in audits of public agencies in other

municipalities in California.[25]

I was both. Infantry, 4 tours USMC, Iraq, Afghan. Patrol 4 years city police so far. LEOs are tasked with much harder things overall than the military..and the average cop is more capable/intelligent/experienced than the average Marine. in MY experiences. I am a proud Marine. Cops are actually more professional than most military people. My experiences.

Cops should be paid more IMHO....but this was over the top...

Bitching about 22k/mo ? The guy is a moron.

I'd say it works both ways.

I'm my experience at my department, a little over half the vets we hire don't last 2 years. Like most people, they watched the tv show 'Cops' once upon a time and they think that is what the job is like. They can do the hands-on portion of law enforcement work pretty well but when it comes down to deciphering and knowing laws, knowing the elements of a crime, writing reports, having people skills, keeping up on case law, etc, they often times have problems grasping it all. There has even been a couple previous military guys that can't even do the hands on portion of the job with bad guys because they were simple paper pushers in their military careers. Also, the cops that we had use of force issues with were mostly previous military guys (not all but most). Note: We have pretty a low retention rate anyways but we don't have any higher luck with vet's vs non-vet's. Either vet's are very good cops or they suck big time and you can't wait until they quit or get fired.

However, I will freely admit that a lot of cops without military experience would walk out if they had to do military type work. They would refuse to work for lower pay, they would refuse to be away from home and families for long periods of time, they would get dangerously bored of doing the same simple task over and over again (if assigned to a simple job duty), they would refuse to do so many small trivial things, and as much I as hate admitting it, there would be cops that would quit if they knew they were going to need to use their gun. Katrina was a good example of how many cops quit when conditions become like a deployment. So there would be low retention rates if cops went to military and had the choice to quit after joining. There would be ones that would do very well and others that would do very poorly, just like military guys that come over to law enforcement.

So it works both ways.

Edited to Add: That was a very good post by Hurk. I'm not getting into the argument of law enforcement being comparable to military other then saying that there is a lot of things that are alike (but obviously there are a lot of things that aren't alike) (I'm not necessarily referring to use of force stuff).

You make it sound like all cops get paid a lot of money. Maybe you should take a break from GD and the area that you live at and travel around the country a little. There are many departments that still start guys at or less then $11.00/hr. Part timers may get paid even less.

Yeah... no. $150K in NYC is not NEARLY enough for a Chief. It's essentially the equivalent of a CEO of a large corporation.

Nicely put sir. Yours and hurk31's posts are the most concise and sensible I have ever seen here on the subject.......

Those are private sector jobs, not publicly funded. There is a difference.

A MP prison guard that deals with the worst scum-bag criminals possible for 40+ hours a week (without getting overtime pay) might have it worse then the ghetto cop. I know one retired cop that had to do just that during Vietnam. He felt that being a MP prison guard was worse then being a cop (and unfortunately, he had some very rough incidents while being a street cop).

Again, there are too many jobs in the military to generalize.

50hrs a week....with comp time off no overtime...

support them firefighters... I kid I kid

These threads are always so enlightening.

Cops and firefighters seem to have a bigger entitlement mentality than hoodrats and unions.



If the general public ever saw the comments here they'd be disgusted. And rightfully so.