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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:26:05 PM
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:27:50 PM
Cats act like cats in the wild? Holy fuck! That's astonishing news. I'm sure some wildlife biologist got his PhD or ScD for that new bit of info and rightfully so.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:28:19 PM
what I want to know is who paid for this stupid shit.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:30:57 PM
Cats are hunters. No surprise. Lucky for dogs that the average domestic cat is not any bigger than it is.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:31:14 PM
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
what I want to know is who paid for this stupid shit. honestly, how is this surprising or helpful to society? Probably grant money from the NSF or school or something. I understand the need to document what animals do. And joking aside, it is neat to see that cats have one behavior when indoors and another out of door, but it's just kind of an out there thing to study. |
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Notcalifornialegal
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:31:19 PM
Because they kill pests?
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:32:10 PM
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Like it or not they do alter the local ecosystem.
There is always a pile of feathers or fur on the ground by side of my house from my neighbor's cat. (not to mention the piles of catshit) The missus is more outraged than I am... 
I would love to shoot that bastard..... |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:34:44 PM
Damn, I live in Athens. I should have volunteered my cat
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:35:00 PM
I think we need a Coyote cam, so we can watch them eat cats!
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:36:00 PM
So who the hell didn't know this already?
Why else would anyone want a cat? BTW, 2/wk will not cut it. I need at least 1 kill/day |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:36:08 PM
Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal:
Because they kill pests? And song birds and will raise hell with a nest of game birds too. A lot of Pheasant hunters will kill cats on sight when they are hunting They don't belong in the wild here. |
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MonkTx
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:36:16 PM
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I take our neighborhood free roamers on a one way ride to the country, punctuated with a shotgun blast when I get one in my traps. I'd laugh my ass off returning that camera to the researcher.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:36:39 PM
Cats have no loyalty.
My dog will not even eat out of a stranger's hand unless I tell him to. |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:36:42 PM
This has been known forever. Hunters and most folks who live in the country always shoot feral housecats on sight.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:40:09 PM
Originally Posted By dalesimpson:
Originally Posted By Notcalifornialegal:
Because they kill pests? And song birds and will raise hell with a nest of game birds too. A lot of Pheasant hunters will kill cats on sight when they are hunting They don't belong in the wild here. Don't belong in the wild? Pheasant is a 100% introduced species in north America |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:42:00 PM
The cats that hang around my house are well taken care of by me...
I have never had a mouse problem...and they help with the birds taking giant dumps on my car... |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:43:34 PM
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:43:38 PM
I've always thought that cats only have one foot in domestication.
They are very much still wild at heart. |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:44:59 PM
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1: This has been known forever. Hunters and most folks who live in the country always shoot feral housecats on sight. Same with dogs, once they form a pack they will attack livestock. Grandpa kept a loaded rifle by the upstairs window for a good reason. Once a house pet is thrown out to the wild, they revert back to being wild animals, I fail to see how anyone could be shocked by this..... |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:46:59 PM
Originally Posted By substandard:
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
This has been known forever. Hunters and most folks who live in the country always shoot feral housecats on sight. Same with dogs, once they form a pack they will attack livestock. Grandpa kept a loaded rifle by the upstairs window for a good reason. Once a house pet is thrown out to the wild, they revert back to being wild animals, I fail to see how anyone could be shocked by this..... Every time that is brought up the city boys screech and weep. |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:48:14 PM
If dogs were let outside to roam went around killing everything they could, you'd see an entirely different attitude then what the typical cat owner displays.
I USED to have a bunch of bluebirds around the house. I USED to have feeders out. The neighbor who collects cats USED to have cats..............which she allowed to roam everywhere around the neighborhood. |
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Finslayer83
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:51:46 PM
Kerri not guilty ?
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:51:53 PM
They would have saved a lot of money by contacting local farmers....
From a website relating to feral cats in Michigan..."fluffy" is no different... ... A further concern is not only the number of cats being released, but their amazing fertility. It is estimate that a single pair of feral cats can grow to 10,000 within five years; some suspect that the stat'es feral cat population may be as large as the population of domestic cats. In most cases, these cats are trapped and euthanized at a rate of approximatelt 76,000 per year. Detroit is said to have 657,000 feral cats, and there are believed to be 10,000 feral cats in Grand Rapids.
There is a reason that many land owners in farm areas (they-feral cats- will eat and/or kill chickens, pheasants, rabbits, and the list goes on and on) that are impacted by feral cats make sure that they meet a little lead...for some farmers the "cats eat the mice" slogan is not entirely true. In short, they are noticing that euthanizing is not working, so they want to catch them and neuter them! The damage will be much grater than it already is if they decide to return feral cats to the wild; and again, "fluffy" is no different. |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:52:28 PM
Originally Posted By bradpierson26: what I want to know is who paid for this stupid shit. honestly, how is this surprising or helpful to society? Someone who hates cats |
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LoneStarZombieHunter
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:55:43 PM
Cats are evil.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:56:58 PM
So do arfcommers with bb guns
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:57:04 PM
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Originally Posted By SilentType:
Cats have no loyalty. My dog will not even eat out of a stranger's hand unless I tell him to. You are full of shit. My cats are as loyal as any dog I have had. Try treating them with respect and see if they return it. If you just don't like cats, they will sense that and respond accordingly. Like anything, you tend to get out of it what you put into it. |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:57:13 PM
Cool video. Funny though that cat's being predators comes as a surprise to some people. Then again some people think humans are meant to be herbivors.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:59:03 PM
Originally Posted By LoneStarZombieHunter:
Cats are evil. Mabey they just reflect the emotion they recieve. One thing I notice about 98% of the Cat Haters is they never really owned one. |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:59:04 PM
I like cats, I have 3. One is the lone survivor of a a litter of 3.
They do interesting things, and I can imagine thats how they are in the wild. They have the primal instinct. BUT, people should really keep them indoors. These little fuckers breed like squirrels, they are all over my neighborhood, which has a high concentration of senior citizens (and they LOVE cats). They die, go to old folks homes, or move, and the cats get left behind to breed with other strays. And for some reason, they end up in my yard, and breed for 8 generations. I've watched this happen for the 7 years I've lived in this house. I've cleaned up DOZENS of dead cats, kittens, and the squirrels they've beheaded for food. I've cleaned up plenty of what looks like murder scenes on my front porch. They've finally gone, surprisingly. We had one stray that was here for about 4 years and she finally bailed on us. Spay, neuter, whatever, it doesn't really matter. Keep them inside. It keeps them disease free, flea-less and out of people's yards. It's the same things as those damn dogs that people let run loose. Keep your animals to yourselves. |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 8:59:45 PM
Originally Posted By Room101:
Cool video. Funny though that cat's being predators comes as a surprise to some people. Then again some people think humans are meant to be herbivors. Mom used to whine about cats eating birds untill I aked if we were having Chicken for dinner! |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 9:00:34 PM
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Originally Posted By substandard:
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
This has been known forever. Hunters and most folks who live in the country always shoot feral housecats on sight. Same with dogs, once they form a pack they will attack livestock. Grandpa kept a loaded rifle by the upstairs window for a good reason. Once a house pet is thrown out to the wild, they revert back to being wild animals, I fail to see how anyone could be shocked by this..... Feral dog packs are a good reason to own a AR-15. |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 9:01:02 PM
Cats are vicious killing machines. Yet another study to tell us what we already know.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 9:01:28 PM
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Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Originally Posted By substandard:
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
This has been known forever. Hunters and most folks who live in the country always shoot feral housecats on sight. Same with dogs, once they form a pack they will attack livestock. Grandpa kept a loaded rifle by the upstairs window for a good reason. Once a house pet is thrown out to the wild, they revert back to being wild animals, I fail to see how anyone could be shocked by this..... Every time that is brought up the city boys screech and weep. Guess I should have blown the head off my neighbors' dog when I found it in my yard instead of giving it some water. Oh noes! Peak birds! If we don't kill cats then we'll run out. I really want to know WTF is in the water that some of you all are drinking. |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 9:01:55 PM
Originally Posted By Gunnerpalace:
Originally Posted By substandard:
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
This has been known forever. Hunters and most folks who live in the country always shoot feral housecats on sight. Same with dogs, once they form a pack they will attack livestock. Grandpa kept a loaded rifle by the upstairs window for a good reason. Once a house pet is thrown out to the wild, they revert back to being wild animals, I fail to see how anyone could be shocked by this..... Feral dog packs are a good reason to own a AR-15. Word. I have a co-worker that was treed for hours by one over in Pocohontas Co. once. Both have their place. Preferably under control. |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 9:03:30 PM
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shocked to discover? two years ago there was a program on discovery talking about the numbers of animals killed by other animals... the house cat came out far ahead of anything else...
and ya cant hate an animal for being what it was intended to be... wutz the problem... is it one of those "them squirrels are for ME to kill" kinda thing? fucking wolves kill all MY elk.. or the other various slack jawed claim to sole hunting rights ya see the hats around here proclaim... eta:... OH it is from the UK... kinda like the light traveling from a star... by the time it's seen it is OLD OLD OLD... like news from the uk... OLD news |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 9:03:58 PM
My daughter laughs when I call our cats "vicious little predators," but I'm NOT kidding....
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Bama-Shooter
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Posted: 8/8/2012 9:05:03 PM
Did they show how many cars they ruined?
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Posted: 8/8/2012 9:10:03 PM
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Did they show how many cars they ruined? I don't generally kill any animals or even insects for no reason...not even cats, but that would probably do it for me. My complex is ate up with the little bastards. |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 9:10:39 PM
Originally Posted By Ragin_Cajun: Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1: Originally Posted By substandard: Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1: This has been known forever. Hunters and most folks who live in the country always shoot feral housecats on sight. Same with dogs, once they form a pack they will attack livestock. Grandpa kept a loaded rifle by the upstairs window for a good reason. Once a house pet is thrown out to the wild, they revert back to being wild animals, I fail to see how anyone could be shocked by this..... Every time that is brought up the city boys screech and weep. Guess I should have blown the head off my neighbors' dog when I found it in my yard instead of giving it some water. Oh noes! Peak birds! If we don't kill cats then we'll run out. I really want to know WTF is in the water that some of you all are drinking. We aren't talking about Scruffy from next door. We are talking about the idiots who don't want a dog or puppies and dump them in the country. The dogs are now forced to fend for themselves, no more store bought dog chow every evening. The dogs revert back to their basic instinct, not their fault, it is what they must do to survive. The pack of dogs soon find it is much easier to kill domestic livestock than wild deer, or other animals. They can also get aggressive against humans as well. These type of dogs need to be eliminated. Period. I think that dogs being domesticated breed have less fear of humans and being around human dwellings, as opposed to the coyote or wolf. The lessen fear makes them more willing to approach stock pens and barns. It would also explain why they are more willing to approach humans and/or attack them. |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 9:11:28 PM
When my Dad was a teen, him and a bunch of his friends were possum hunting, and spotted a cat up a small tree.
Dad told them he would make the cat fly into the air. He got right under it, and blasted it with his 12ga. The cat EXPLODED, and covered them all in guts, blood and cat shit.  |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 9:14:25 PM
The report said cats kill snakes. Arfcom hates snakes. Why is the enemy of my enemy not my friend, in this case?
Cat hate is a sign of insecurity and a neurotic need for control. |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 9:14:42 PM
Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
Originally Posted By SilentType:
Cats have no loyalty. My dog will not even eat out of a stranger's hand unless I tell him to. You are full of shit. My cats are as loyal as any dog I have had. Try treating them with respect and see if they return it. If you just don't like cats, they will sense that and respond accordingly. Like anything, you tend to get out of it what you put into it. Our cats come running to the door to see us when we get home just like the dogs. When I sit here in my bedroom with the door shut for a long time, more often than not when I come out one specific cat will be sitting there. She just waits for me and is always excited when I come out. I never understood the whole "cats aren't loyal" or "cats have no personality" nonsense. 7 of the 8 cats I've had in my life were all like this. The one loner was rescue that was terrified of people in general. |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 9:15:26 PM
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Originally Posted By BigeasySnow:
The report said cats kill snakes. Arfcom hates snakes. Why is the enemy of my enemy not my friend, in this case? Cat hate is a sign of insecurity and a neurotic need for control. No, that would be the irrational fear and hatred of snakes, which I have never understood. |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 9:16:44 PM
Originally Posted By Citadel-SC:
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Did they show how many cars they ruined? I don't generally kill any animals or even insects for no reason...not even cats, but that would probably do it for me. My complex is ate up with the little bastards. Cats ruined my former wifes car by pissing on their paws and walking on the hood. One jumped on my Vette hood and scratched the shit out of it trying to stay on it. |
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Originally Posted By BigeasySnow:
The report said cats kill snakes. Arfcom hates snakes. Why is the enemy of my enemy not my friend, in this case? Cat hate is a sign of insecurity and a neurotic need for control. If you die in your house, your dog will lie down by your body and stay there. Your cat will EAT YOU. |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 9:17:09 PM
Originally Posted By substandard:
Originally Posted By Ragin_Cajun:
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Originally Posted By substandard:
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
This has been known forever. Hunters and most folks who live in the country always shoot feral housecats on sight. Same with dogs, once they form a pack they will attack livestock. Grandpa kept a loaded rifle by the upstairs window for a good reason. Once a house pet is thrown out to the wild, they revert back to being wild animals, I fail to see how anyone could be shocked by this..... Every time that is brought up the city boys screech and weep. Guess I should have blown the head off my neighbors' dog when I found it in my yard instead of giving it some water. Oh noes! Peak birds! If we don't kill cats then we'll run out. I really want to know WTF is in the water that some of you all are drinking. We aren't talking about Scruffy from next door. We are talking about the idiots who don't want a dog or puppies and dump them in the country. The dogs are now forced to fend for themselves, no more store bought dog chow every evening. The dogs revert back to their basic instinct, not their fault, it is what they must do to survive. The pack of dogs soon find it is much easier to kill domestic livestock than wild deer, or other animals. They can also get aggressive against humans as well. These type of dogs need to be eliminated. Period. I think that dogs being domesticated breed have less fear of humans and being around human dwellings, as opposed to the coyote or wolf. The lessen fear makes them more willing to approach stock pens and barns. It would also explain why they are more willing to approach humans and/or attack them. Most of the "Death to Fluffy" posters in this thread are thumping their chest about shooting any unattended animal on sight. It just seems strange to me that I don't find it necessary to kill domestic animals (or any others really) on any sort of regular basis even when I'm out in the country. To listen to some here though, Ma can't leave the farmhouse without being set upon by a pack of feral, rabid Abyssinian housecats 
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Posted: 8/8/2012 9:19:12 PM
Originally Posted By dskeet:
Originally Posted By HeavyMetal:
Originally Posted By SilentType:
Cats have no loyalty. My dog will not even eat out of a stranger's hand unless I tell him to. You are full of shit. My cats are as loyal as any dog I have had. Try treating them with respect and see if they return it. If you just don't like cats, they will sense that and respond accordingly. Like anything, you tend to get out of it what you put into it. Our cats come running to the door to see us when we get home just like the dogs. When I sit here in my bedroom with the door shut for a long time, more often than not when I come out one specific cat will be sitting there. She just waits for me and is always excited when I come out. I never understood the whole "cats aren't loyal" or "cats have no personality" nonsense. 7 of the 8 cats I've had in my life were all like this. The one loner was rescue that was terrified of people in general. Yep. They are a lot more like Dogs than not. |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 9:19:22 PM
Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks:
Originally Posted By BigeasySnow:
The report said cats kill snakes. Arfcom hates snakes. Why is the enemy of my enemy not my friend, in this case? Cat hate is a sign of insecurity and a neurotic need for control. If you die in your house, your dog will lie down by your body and stay there. Your cat will EAT YOU.
Give it about 36 hours before you're puppy chow. ITT ARFCommers who claim they know a lot about animals prove the opposite. |
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