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Posted: 8/8/2012 9:59:53 PM
Originally Posted By douglasmorris99:
you guys need to look at England, R France and Spain and see how Islam is working for them. I'll bet the Spaniards were pretty confident in 710 AD that things would be just fine, too. |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 10:08:24 PM
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South Africa hear we come. Yea!!!! This |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 7:09:12 AM
Originally Posted By South_Side_Shooter: The most terrifying danger Americans face from a second Barack Obama term isn’t the economy, which is scary enough. The most harrowing prospect is the Obama Administration’s passivity in the face of attempts to introduce aspects of sharia law into our legal system. Now there is strong and open evidence of the Obama administration collaborating with Islamist activists to ensure the path toward sharia law is accelerated. Just last week, Thomas Perez, Assistant Attorney General of the Department of Justice (DOJ) Civil Rights Division, was asked this question by Trent Franks (R-AZ), a member of the House Judiciary Committee Subcommittee on the Constitution: "Will you tell us here today that this Administration's Department of Justice will never entertain or advance a proposal that criminalizes speech against any religion?" Perez refused to answer. Four times. And why would Franks target Perez? Here’s why: Last October, at George Washington University, there was a meeting between DOJ officials, including Perez, and Islamist advocates against free speech. Representatives from the Islamist side included Mohamed Magid, president of the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA). The ISNA was an unindicted co-conspirator in a Hamas terror funding trial in 2008, as well as functioning as a Muslim Brotherhood Front. The leader of the Islamist attack was Sahar Aziz, an Egyptian-born American lawyer and Fellow at the Institute for Social Policy and Understanding, a Muslim advocacy group based in Michigan. At the meeting, the Islamists lobbied for: Cutbacks in U.S. anti-terror training Limits on the power of terrorism investigators Changes in agent training manuals A legal declaration that criticism of Islam in the United States should be considered racial discrimination http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/08/03/Obama-administration-paves-the-way-for-sharia-law I am amazed that people roll their eyes at this assertion. It is exactly what the world leaders of Islam are calling for. It has happened and is happening all over Europe. Are we blind? When the first WTC bombing happened and the towers didn't fall, they said they would come back and do it again. It took ten years, but they did it. Does America have a death wish? Stop ignoring what has transpired in the last ten years. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 7:13:48 AM
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Originally Posted By Fullautoguy:
I dislike Obama more and more every day Dislike? Fuck, I can say I HATE the bastard with every fiber of my being. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 7:14:51 AM
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It's going to be hilarious when Nancy Pelosi has to wear a burka. It would make her look better that's for sure. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 7:34:51 AM
Obama, his idiot appointees and Islamic activists can all go fuck themselves.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 7:42:56 AM
Originally Posted By 0ldGuy:
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The idea of Sharia law being implemented in America is 9/11 conspiracy level retardation. baby steps, one brick at a time, etc.... |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 9:59:24 AM
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:13:24 AM
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:15:05 AM
this , even obama is not that fuckin stupid  or is he  |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:37:01 AM
Originally Posted By HarryStone:
It's going to be hilarious when Nancy Pelosi has to wear a burka. She already has worn a burka: Nancy Dons The Burqa How soon the forget. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:08:16 AM
Originally Posted By mongreltude:
yes i'm serious...who is going to stop it? and who are you calling ''stupid''? the assistant attorney general of the DOJ? Well if it happens ill eat crow....seriously this is just flat out stupid. As has been said imposing any Islamic law upon a country of Christians isnt gonna happen, we wont be praying towards mecca anytime soon....Islamophobia works how again? As for who is "stupid" I dont have the time to make a list with this administration. Originally Posted By 2nd_amandment:
If anything , the koran should be banned in the US for being hate speech and inciting violence. While we are at it, the bible too right I mean it can incite hate speech and violence as well.... Originally Posted By Mastadon:
People once said the same thing about socialism, didn't they? Because we are currently living in a true socialist country now.... |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:11:56 AM
Originally Posted By HarryStone:
It's going to be hilarious when Nancy Pelosi has to wear a burka. This, I would welcome..... |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:17:21 AM
bull fukkin shit - there will never be sharia law in america......get your heads out yer ass.......what really bugs me is reading these guys bitching at people for believing 9/11 conspiracies and then turning around and claiming obamas going to implement sharia law...
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:22:26 AM
The tin foil is thick in this thread.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:22:57 AM
This whole Sharia Law thing has gotten out of hand and I thought we were done with it. Companies are allowed to put arbitration clauses into contracts so they don't have to go through courts and legal systems that are expensive and don't suit their industry standards. Read your cell phone contract, it probably has one.
This is all the Sharia Law issue is. Banks want to be able to serve Muslim clients who have special needs because their religion has goofy views on interest rates and usury. A private industry asking the government to lay off, what could be more American than that? I guess we can use osmosis to assume that honor rapes and honor murders are next.  |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:25:47 AM
Originally Posted By RayGunz2:
Just says that the owebama admin is still sure that most people either don't know or don't care as long as they can get a big mac, a bud light and watch american idol. Sadly the admin is probably correct. Just wait until they can't get bacon on the big mac... bud light is replaced by halal crab juice... and american idol comes complete with burkas. Then you're going to see a revolution in this country!! Or maybe people will just start Saudi style drifting as a sign of protest! |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:39:28 AM
It would amuse me for something like this to come about, not as a direct result, but as a side effect of some sort of "religious rights" legislation pushed by Christian fundamentalist.
Sort of like this: Louisiana Republican: When I Voted for State Funds to go to Religious Schools, I Didn’t Mean Muslim Ones In Louisiana, Republican Governor Bobby Jindal pushed for a voucher program that would allow state funds to be used to pay for religious schools. It’s unconstitutional, it’s a way to use taxpayer money to fund someone’s faith, and it was a bad idea to begin with. But it passed. Now, one of the state legislators, Rep. Valarie Hodges (R-Watson), just made a shocking discovery, though: Christianity isn’t the only religion! http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2012/07/05/louisiana-republican-when-i-voted-for-state-funds-to-go-to-religious-schools-i-didnt-mean-muslim-ones/ |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:41:31 AM
Originally Posted By Troubl3shooter:
It would amuse me for something like this to come about, not as a direct result, but as a side effect of some sort of "religious rights" legislation pushed by Christian fundamentalist. Sort of like this: Louisiana Republican: When I Voted for State Funds to go to Religious Schools, I Didn’t Mean Muslim Ones
In Louisiana, Republican Governor Bobby Jindal pushed for a voucher program that would allow state funds to be used to pay for religious schools. It’s unconstitutional, it’s a way to use taxpayer money to fund someone’s faith, and it was a bad idea to begin with. But it passed. Now, one of the state legislators, Rep. Valarie Hodges (R-Watson), just made a shocking discovery, though: Christianity isn’t the only religion! http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2012/07/05/louisiana-republican-when-i-voted-for-state-funds-to-go-to-religious-schools-i-didnt-mean-muslim-ones/ 
It's totally ok to violate the constitution, as long as my group benefits from it. Start letting others benefit, however, and that's just wrong. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:47:11 AM
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Originally Posted By Visable-assassin:
Seriously? As stupid as the guy is, nothing of this magnitude will ever go over here. And if it does ok ill eat crow over it....but i believe ill be starving here... People once said the same thing about socialism, didn't they? When? Back in the days when we were more socialist then we are now? Just when do suppose we were more socialist than now? |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:49:36 PM
Originally Posted By Snips: Originally Posted By Troubl3shooter: It would amuse me for something like this to come about, not as a direct result, but as a side effect of some sort of "religious rights" legislation pushed by Christian fundamentalist. Sort of like this: Louisiana Republican: When I Voted for State Funds to go to Religious Schools, I Didn’t Mean Muslim Ones In Louisiana, Republican Governor Bobby Jindal pushed for a voucher program that would allow state funds to be used to pay for religious schools. It’s unconstitutional, it’s a way to use taxpayer money to fund someone’s faith, and it was a bad idea to begin with. But it passed. Now, one of the state legislators, Rep. Valarie Hodges (R-Watson), just made a shocking discovery, though: Christianity isn’t the only religion! http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2012/07/05/louisiana-republican-when-i-voted-for-state-funds-to-go-to-religious-schools-i-didnt-mean-muslim-ones/ It's totally ok to violate the constitution, as long as my group benefits from it. Start letting others benefit, however, and that's just wrong. Intellectual honesty, how does it work? |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:02:31 PM
And the Tea Party in their attack on Republicans has gave Obama the election back too!!
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:04:26 PM
me, i'm really worried.
someday, sharia will prevent our children from getting proper dental care. the good news is that the fags will no longer seek to recruit them, 'cause they don't like "yuck mouth." so there is some positive here. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:06:05 PM
The one thing that Kenyan fuckstain didn't lie about was the fact he would "fundamentally transform America" and he's done/doing just that, and the moron masses that voted for him, don't give two shits as long as they get their check or their gubmint cheese!
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:08:39 PM
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Originally Posted By South_Side_Shooter:
The most terrifying danger Americans face from a second Barack Obama term isn’t the economy, which is scary enough. The most harrowing prospect is the Obama Administration’s passivity in the face of attempts to introduce aspects of sharia law into our legal system. No, that is bullshit. The most 'terrifying' danger most Americans face is the economy taking another shit and losing their jobs and their savings. Being killed by a lunatic at their church or a theater. Their kid winding up on the streets. Thats what counts as 'terrifying' to most Americans. Some nebulous conspiracy theory about seekrit mooselimbs is not anywhere near terrifying. Anyone who is truly 'terrified' of such a thing is a flat-out fucking moron. There are many 'terrifying' things in the real world. This isn't 'terrifying,' and it isn't a part of the real world. Its the economy, stupid. Learn it. Love it. Preach it. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:15:07 PM
Let's make the Tea Party a religion.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:22:00 PM
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Originally Posted By nightstalker:
Let's make the Tea Party a religion. You can use whatever terms you want in private contracts between individuals, provided they don't violate that person's rights. Sharia is just a pre-codified set of terms. Both parties must consent and the bits that violate US law are unenforceable. So yeah, if you want to have Tea Party Sharia contracts between yourself and someone else, knock yourself out. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:24:53 PM
Originally Posted By beararms: Originally Posted By shooter69: That any Muslim group has the arrogance to demand those things in the light of three thousand murdered Americans is vile and disgusting.  Should be a topic of discussion in the MSM and not just here (the demands). Why is Obama's stooge afraid to answer the question. You'd think they asked him if he was a communist.  It's no secret libs favor islamic finance to capitalist economic freedom. How do libs accomplish anything? .... like disarmament? Incrementally Here's how the mortgage, known as Murabaha financing or "cost plus sale," works: The state buys a home and resells it to the buyer at a higher price. The down payment and monthly installments are agreed to up front at current mortgage rates. http://bismarcktribune.com/news/state-and-regional/article_522437d9-29ad-5162-b896-e98c3a6cdcfc.html "The process is different, but the outcome will look the same," There is no big deal about financing Islamic style. Interest is included in price, then payments are made. Just can't use a scary word like interest, have to call it something else. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:27:31 PM
Originally Posted By Strykewolf:
Originally Posted By HarryStone:
It's going to be hilarious when Nancy Pelosi has to wear a burka. I don't think a standard burka could handle it. Doesn't she have high end bolt ons? |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:30:10 PM
Originally Posted By Kaygee:
Islamic law being introduced to a nation of devout Christians, many of whom are armed to the teeth? Yeah that'll go over well. devout?? What percentage of the population actually attends services regularly?? 1% ?? |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:32:29 PM
This is just a distraction so we don't keep our eyes on the ball... The increasing levels of Marxism/Communism in our country, and the disintegration of our country.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:35:11 PM
It'll be done slowly.
One small step at a time. Firts, a small local court in Dearborne MI... you know.. just for 'settling local disputes"... then that will become a precedent for CAIR to ask it to be implmented at the county level... "It's just 1 country after all.. don't be so xenophobic, you racist bastard!!" Then they'll sue to have it applied at the statewide level.... "there is no creeping Sharia here" says Baghdad Bob  |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:35:42 PM
Originally Posted By AdviceDog:
Originally Posted By Kaygee:
Islamic law being introduced to a nation of devout Christians, many of whom are armed to the teeth? Yeah that'll go over well. devout?? What percentage of the population actually attends services regularly?? 1% ?? In terms of self-identification whether someone attends service is irrelevant. Its a question of what people consider themselves, and most of the country considers themselves Christians, even though many do not attend service. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:50:52 PM
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Originally Posted By HarryStone:
I would be thankful.
It's going to be hilarious when Nancy Pelosi has to wear a burka. And we all thought SCOTUS would strike down OBAMA Care on grounds that a mandate was UN-Constitutional. Hmmm...just say'n. It is not too difficult to believe when there are a few on the SCOTUS bench who are quoted saying nothing wrong with factoring in case law outside of US jurisdiction. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:02:52 PM
Originally Posted By Thunder900:
This is just a distraction so we don't keep our eyes on the ball... The increasing levels of Marxism/Communism in our country, and the disintegration of our country. It's one and of the same...right now. The enemy of my enemy thing. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:14:11 PM
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Originally Posted By AdviceDog:
Originally Posted By Kaygee:
Islamic law being introduced to a nation of devout Christians, many of whom are armed to the teeth? Yeah that'll go over well. devout?? What percentage of the population actually attends services regularly?? 1% ?? In terms of self-identification whether someone attends service is irrelevant. Its a question of what people consider themselves, and most of the country considers themselves Christians, even though many do not attend service. The word in question is "devout". 1. : devoted to religion or to religious duties or exercises Merely saying you're something doesn't make one "devout". People here put more time and effort into worshiping sports teams than they do their religion of choice. They'll drive 300 miles through a snowstorm to watch a game, but they'll skip church because it drizzling outside. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:24:24 PM
This a good report? Worth reading? TXL |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:28:03 PM
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And the Tea Party in their attack on Republicans has gave Obama the election back too!! lol wut? TXL |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:28:19 PM
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Originally Posted By Visable-assassin:
Seriously? As stupid as the guy is, nothing of this magnitude will ever go over here. And if it does ok ill eat crow over it....but i believe ill be starving here... People once said the same thing about socialism, didn't they? Yes, and they would still be correct. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:28:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Thrasymachus:
Are you fucking serious? This is the most retarded thing I have ever heard, for a variety of reasons. I am dumber for having clicked on this thread. Why not? Canada did it. 
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Posted: 8/9/2012 4:07:21 PM
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This a good report? Worth reading? TXL I thought so. Very interesting and well researched. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 4:12:41 PM
Originally Posted By AdviceDog:
[quote]Originally Posted By Thrasymachus: The word in question is "devout". 1. : devoted to religion or to religious duties or exercises Merely saying you're something doesn't make one "devout". People here put more time and effort into worshiping sports teams than they do their religion of choice. They'll drive 300 miles through a snowstorm to watch a game, but they'll skip church because it drizzling outside. You are misconstruing the point. Whether someone is devout or not is not really relevant to gauge their reaction to a political event. What matters is what they believe they are. If someone thinks they are devout then they are going to react similarly to an event the same way an actually devout person would. People view themselves quite differently than they actually are, and when you are trying to gauge political behavior it is far more predictive to measure how they self report rather than how they actually behave. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 4:53:51 PM
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Originally Posted By beararms:
Originally Posted By shooter69:
That any Muslim group has the arrogance to demand those things in the light of three thousand murdered Americans is vile and disgusting.
Should be a topic of discussion in the MSM and not just here (the demands). Why is Obama's stooge afraid to answer the question. You'd think they asked him if he was a communist. It's no secret libs favor islamic finance to capitalist economic freedom. How do libs accomplish anything? .... like disarmament? Incrementally Here's how the mortgage, known as Murabaha financing or "cost plus sale," works:
The state buys a home and resells it to the buyer at a higher price. The down payment and monthly installments are agreed to up front at current mortgage rates. http://bismarcktribune.com/news/state-and-regional/article_522437d9-29ad-5162-b896-e98c3a6cdcfc.html "The process is different, but the outcome will look the same," There is no big deal about financing Islamic style. Interest is included in price, then payments are made. Just can't use a scary word like interest, have to call it something else. I saw that but it is a big deal and the reason why holders injustice refused to answer the questions. I highlighted in red the go between who will ensure deep pocket "fairness" for islam faithful. A separate but equal banking financial system and laws respecting an establishment of religion. Dodd Frank created the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Their powers are unlimited. Obamacare will also exempt islam with health sharing ministries .... Takaful. ..... and the amish, mennonites and scientologists. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion....... |
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Posted: 8/10/2012 9:19:06 AM
Originally Posted By nightstalker: Let's make the Tea Party a religion. No need, it got over run by church goers right out of the gate. |
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Posted: 8/10/2012 11:34:11 AM
Originally Posted By beararms: Originally Posted By nightstalker: Originally Posted By beararms: Originally Posted By shooter69: That any Muslim group has the arrogance to demand those things in the light of three thousand murdered Americans is vile and disgusting. Should be a topic of discussion in the MSM and not just here (the demands). Why is Obama's stooge afraid to answer the question. You'd think they asked him if he was a communist. It's no secret libs favor islamic finance to capitalist economic freedom. How do libs accomplish anything? .... like disarmament? Incrementally Here's how the mortgage, known as Murabaha financing or "cost plus sale," works: The state buys a home and resells it to the buyer at a higher price. The down payment and monthly installments are agreed to up front at current mortgage rates. http://bismarcktribune.com/news/state-and-regional/article_522437d9-29ad-5162-b896-e98c3a6cdcfc.html "The process is different, but the outcome will look the same," There is no big deal about financing Islamic style. Interest is included in price, then payments are made. Just can't use a scary word like interest, have to call it something else. I saw that but it is a big deal and the reason why holders injustice refused to answer the questions. I highlighted in red the go between who will ensure deep pocket "fairness" for islam faithful. A separate but equal banking financial system and laws respecting an establishment of religion. Dodd Frank created the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Their powers are unlimited. Obamacare will also exempt islam with health sharing ministries .... Takaful. ..... and the amish, mennonites and scientologists. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion....... Laws that allow exemptions for religious reasons are tyranny by definition. ....IMAO Same for regulations. I'm not on board for most exemptions for LEOs either. We shouldn't be so easily trying to undermine democracy and equality.
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