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Posted: 8/8/2012 11:08:04 PM
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Pretty sure its not legal for anyone under 18 to possess a handgun under Federal law Bet a dollar? Does she have written permission from her parents on her? 
You know the law requires it right? no, the law requires her to be under adult supervision. Yes AND with written permission from parent or guardian Even if the parent or guardian is present |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 11:13:30 PM
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I can't believe some of the comments in this thread. So many of you think that because she looks physically "mature" you'd hit it, yet I'd love to see your comments in the PSU/Paterno threads. my grandmother was 15 and grandfather was 18 when they got married. whats your point? they actually had to lie to get a marriage license. they were together till the day my grandmother died. back then that was "normal" and most people were married well before 20 years of age. I dont hear a lot of guys saying they wan't to settle down with her and start a family like your grandparent probably did. They just seem to want to "hit it". And even if/when she's 18, unless they're right about that same age that makes that makes them pervs, imo. |
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Posted: 8/8/2012 11:13:58 PM
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Should change the name from "Team Glock" to "Team Titties" Best post in this thread  |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:03:27 AM
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:03:37 AM
Originally Posted By CRC: Originally Posted By mylt1: Originally Posted By CRC: Originally Posted By USPcompact: Originally Posted By CRC: Originally Posted By Dan_Gray: Originally Posted By CRC: Pretty sure its not legal for anyone under 18 to possess a handgun under Federal law Bet a dollar? Does she have written permission from her parents on her? You know the law requires it right? no, the law requires her to be under adult supervision. Yes AND with written permission from parent or guardian Even if the parent or guardian is present well she's been shooting with Team Glock for more than 2 years so i'm sure they got it covered.... |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:22:13 AM
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Originally Posted By CRC:
Originally Posted By mylt1:
Originally Posted By CRC:
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Originally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Originally Posted By CRC:
Pretty sure its not legal for anyone under 18 to possess a handgun under Federal law Bet a dollar? Does she have written permission from her parents on her?
You know the law requires it right? no, the law requires her to be under adult supervision. Yes AND with written permission from parent or guardian Even if the parent or guardian is present no "written permission" needed if a parent is present. the "coach" would be her "legal guardian" in absence of a parent. the legal guardian would have permission to make legal/medical decisions. it would be like a permission slip for a school field trip. gun handling wouldnt need to be covered in it since the guardian is acting in place of the parent. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:08:29 AM
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Is her dad the guy that does a lot of photography for firearms magazines? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile No, that's Ichiro Nagata. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:30:50 AM
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17 16 is legal in Texas Missouri Kentucky. I'd let her shoot my gun. http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/funny/2/dance.gif |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 6:27:43 AM
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Is her dad the guy that does a lot of photography for firearms magazines? No, that's Ichiro Nagata. So..... Is that Chinese, or Japanese? Seriously though, I thought i had seen several spreads done by a guy named Nonaka. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:55:17 AM
Originally Posted By CRC: I am sure her parents happily signed the appropriate releases, and subsequently the royalty checks.Originally Posted By mylt1: Originally Posted By CRC: Originally Posted By USPcompact: Originally Posted By CRC: Originally Posted By Dan_Gray: Originally Posted By CRC: Pretty sure its not legal for anyone under 18 to possess a handgun under Federal law Bet a dollar? Does she have written permission from her parents on her? You know the law requires it right? no, the law requires her to be under adult supervision. Yes AND with written permission from parent or guardian Even if the parent or guardian is present |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 10:56:42 AM
Originally Posted By GeorgeInNePa: Might also be the Yammer.Originally Posted By BillythePoet: Is her dad the guy that does a lot of photography for firearms magazines? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile No, that's Ichiro Nagata. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:04:32 AM
Originally Posted By BillythePoet:
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Is her dad the guy that does a lot of photography for firearms magazines? No, that's Ichiro Nagata. So..... Is that Chinese, or Japanese? Seriously though, I thought i had seen several spreads done by a guy named Nonaka. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:55:40 AM
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So, Jessie's husband tried to have sex with her? Man, that is one greedy guy. Should have considered himself lucky to have Jessie. Tried my ass, he did, and he deserves to go to jail for it. But who is saying it wasn't consensual? We've all seen, watched, know of those teenage girls who are basically predators, they go after older men... You are right, he should have considered himself lucky to have Jessie (barring she's not batshit crazy or a PITA in her private life)... But, old guy, young somewhat attractive girl who maybe wants him, tends to make some old guy's do stupid shit to feel "young" again, think they still "have it". I'll also throw one other thing in the mix, Jessie got engaged and married awful fricken' quick, so what else was going behind the scenes. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:02:26 PM
Originally Posted By Recusance: Originally Posted By jmarkma: I'm kinda surprised Glock would keep her on after the scandal. Yes I know it's not her fault it's just that it will jog a lot of people memories about what happened just like it is here. I'm kinda surprised we put young girls in scant/tight clothes, watch them get into suggestive positions and then comment on how wrong it is or comment on when men make comments about it. In some countries they avoid these things by making their women wear Burkahs.. God damn, humans are fucked up creatures...  Life is a comedy to those who think, and a tragedy to those who feel. Not sure why, but your comment reminded me of that. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:04:15 PM
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Sex sells, ask any marketing guy. Randi Rogers was a great shooter for Glock, but she lacked the looks of the appeal of Tori. would you hit it if it came your way? you decide. Morality is in the eye of the beholder. I wouldn't throw Randi Rogers out of bed either.  Shes cute.How are you related to Randi I'm not  |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:07:35 PM
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I'm kinda surprised Glock would keep her on after the scandal. Yes I know it's not her fault it's just that it will jog a lot of people memories about what happened just like it is here. I'm not sure the "memories" of such an issue would really be a negative. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:42:35 PM
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I'm kinda surprised Glock would keep her on after the scandal. Yes I know it's not her fault it's just that it will jog a lot of people memories about what happened just like it is here. I'm not sure the "memories" of such an issue would really be a negative. Wonder if this is why Jessie left Glock? Seems like she was almost a Privateer for awhile. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:51:32 PM
Originally Posted By AcidGambit: Originally Posted By SilentType: So, Jessie's husband tried to have sex with her? Man, that is one greedy guy. Should have considered himself lucky to have Jessie. Tried my ass, he did, and he deserves to go to jail for it. But who is saying it wasn't consensual? We've all seen, watched, know of those teenage girls who are basically predators, they go after older men... You are right, he should have considered himself lucky to have Jessie (barring she's not batshit crazy or a PITA in her private life)... But, old guy, young somewhat attractive girl who maybe wants him, tends to make some old guy's do stupid shit to feel "young" again, think they still "have it". I'll also throw one other thing in the mix, Jessie got engaged and married awful fricken' quick, so what else was going behind the scenes. Maybe the wife wouldn't give-up the ass. From reports of charges filed ("sodomy" mentioned a few times), it seems that the girlfriend did. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:52:41 PM
I'm subscribed to her FB page, so I get regular updates.
From what I can tell she is a smart, level-headed, and extremely talented girl, with a bright future ahead of her. Ripping scabs off old wounds is doing no one any good, especially her. Enough is enough. She should be allowed to go on with her life and not be haunted by this. Just my 2˘. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:04:44 PM
Originally Posted By TerryC:
I'm subscribed to her FB page, so I get regular updates. From what I can tell she is a smart, level-headed, and extremely talented girl, with a bright future ahead of her. Ripping scabs off old wounds is doing no one any good, especially her. Enough is enough. She should be allowed to go on with her life and not be haunted by this. Just my 2˘. So she posted about how she's trying to leave the country with him? |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:11:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Silver_Surfer:
Wonder if this is why Jessie left Glock? Seems like she was almost a Privateer for awhile. The improper sexual relationship began in spring of 2010 according to various articles. Dave Sevigny and Jessie both left Glock before this story was made public. http://gunnuts.net/2011/08/08/dave-sevigny-leaves-team-glock/ The story broke in mid August 2011. Sevigny left just a couple weeks before. I am guessing he was totally in the dark about this right up until he bailed. The original complaint was made to the police on July 18th. One of the articles says that Abbate's wife (Jessie) became suspicious and started having conversations with the victim (Tori). She probably knew something was up and decided to bail in April of 2011. http://www.downrange.tv/blog/free-agent-abbate/2827/ I'm guessing she is the one that told Tori's parents. And here's another question: Who is the "third party?" http://www.henryherald.com/news/2011/aug/25/conditional-100000-bond-set-abbate/ Wright also said there was a “third party” who traveled with the victim as a guardian, on different trips. “That third party saw explicit photos of the victim and the defendant,” he continued.
According to Wright, Abbate threatened the “third party,” by telling her he would show text messages about her marital issues to her husband. “I do have copies of those text messages,” said Wright. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:30:39 PM
Originally Posted By SinistralRifleman:
Originally Posted By Silver_Surfer:
Wonder if this is why Jessie left Glock? Seems like she was almost a Privateer for awhile. The improper sexual relationship began in spring of 2010 according to various articles. Dave Sevigny and Jessie both left Glock before this story was made public. http://gunnuts.net/2011/08/08/dave-sevigny-leaves-team-glock/ The story broke in mid August 2011. Sevigny left just a couple weeks before. I am guessing he was totally in the dark about this right up until he bailed. The original complaint was made to the police on July 18th. One of the articles says that Abbate's wife (Jessie) became suspicious and started having conversations with the victim (Tori). She probably knew something was up and decided to bail in April of 2011. http://www.downrange.tv/blog/free-agent-abbate/2827/ I'm guessing she is the one that told Tori's parents. And here's another question: Who is the "third party?" http://www.henryherald.com/news/2011/aug/25/conditional-100000-bond-set-abbate/ Wright also said there was a “third party” who traveled with the victim as a guardian, on different trips. “That third party saw explicit photos of the victim and the defendant,” he continued.
According to Wright, Abbate threatened the “third party,” by telling her he would show text messages about her marital issues to her husband. “I do have copies of those text messages,” said Wright. Thanks for the info. Wow  |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:38:38 PM
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Originally Posted By SinistralRifleman: Originally Posted By Silver_Surfer: Wonder if this is why Jessie left Glock? Seems like she was almost a Privateer for awhile. The improper sexual relationship began in spring of 2010 according to various articles. Dave Sevigny and Jessie both left Glock before this story was made public. http://gunnuts.net/2011/08/08/dave-sevigny-leaves-team-glock/ The story broke in mid August 2011. Sevigny left just a couple weeks before. I am guessing he was totally in the dark about this right up until he bailed. The original complaint was made to the police on July 18th. One of the articles says that Abbate's wife (Jessie) became suspicious and started having conversations with the victim (Tori). She probably knew something was up and decided to bail in April of 2011. http://www.downrange.tv/blog/free-agent-abbate/2827/ I'm guessing she is the one that told Tori's parents. And here's another question: Who is the "third party?" http://www.henryherald.com/news/2011/aug/25/conditional-100000-bond-set-abbate/ Wright also said there was a "third party” who traveled with the victim as a guardian, on different trips. "That third party saw explicit photos of the victim and the defendant,” he continued. According to Wright, Abbate threatened the "third party,” by telling her he would show text messages about her marital issues to her husband. "I do have copies of those text messages,” said Wright. well Tori and Jessie were both still on Team Glock for the Bianchi Cup which was during the end of last May:  and it does seem that more was going on since she got married again within a few months |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:43:15 PM
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I know I hav'nt been keeping up with current events but just seen this:
Randi Rogers Leaves Team Glock glock.pro/competition/4861-randi-rogers-leaves-team-glock.htmljessie harrison-duff wedding, pictures of jesse harrison duff's wedding, randi rogers, randi rogers leaves, randi rogers leaves glock, randi rogers leaves team glock Randi Rogers leaves Team Glock | Gun Nuts Media gunnuts.net/2012/03/09/randi-rogers-leaves-team-glock13 Responses to Randi Rogers leaves Team Glock ... Jessie Harrison signed with Taurus, so maybe Randy will be picked up by HiPoint ... Randi was posted a few post above. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:44:07 PM
Originally Posted By mcantu:
Originally Posted By SinistralRifleman:
Originally Posted By Silver_Surfer:
Wonder if this is why Jessie left Glock? Seems like she was almost a Privateer for awhile. The improper sexual relationship began in spring of 2010 according to various articles. Dave Sevigny and Jessie both left Glock before this story was made public. http://gunnuts.net/2011/08/08/dave-sevigny-leaves-team-glock/ The story broke in mid August 2011. Sevigny left just a couple weeks before. I am guessing he was totally in the dark about this right up until he bailed. The original complaint was made to the police on July 18th. One of the articles says that Abbate's wife (Jessie) became suspicious and started having conversations with the victim (Tori). She probably knew something was up and decided to bail in April of 2011. http://www.downrange.tv/blog/free-agent-abbate/2827/ I'm guessing she is the one that told Tori's parents. And here's another question: Who is the "third party?" http://www.henryherald.com/news/2011/aug/25/conditional-100000-bond-set-abbate/ Wright also said there was a "third party” who traveled with the victim as a guardian, on different trips. "That third party saw explicit photos of the victim and the defendant,” he continued.
According to Wright, Abbate threatened the "third party,” by telling her he would show text messages about her marital issues to her husband. "I do have copies of those text messages,” said Wright. well Tori and Jessie were both still on Team Glock for the Bianchi Cup which was during the end of last May: https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/244192_232587900089118_6575534_o.jpg and it does seem that more was going on since she got married again within a few months Who got married again? |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:46:05 PM
Originally Posted By mcantu:
Originally Posted By SinistralRifleman:
Originally Posted By Silver_Surfer:
Wonder if this is why Jessie left Glock? Seems like she was almost a Privateer for awhile. The improper sexual relationship began in spring of 2010 according to various articles. Dave Sevigny and Jessie both left Glock before this story was made public. http://gunnuts.net/2011/08/08/dave-sevigny-leaves-team-glock/ The story broke in mid August 2011. Sevigny left just a couple weeks before. I am guessing he was totally in the dark about this right up until he bailed. The original complaint was made to the police on July 18th. One of the articles says that Abbate's wife (Jessie) became suspicious and started having conversations with the victim (Tori). She probably knew something was up and decided to bail in April of 2011. http://www.downrange.tv/blog/free-agent-abbate/2827/ I'm guessing she is the one that told Tori's parents. And here's another question: Who is the "third party?" http://www.henryherald.com/news/2011/aug/25/conditional-100000-bond-set-abbate/ Wright also said there was a "third party” who traveled with the victim as a guardian, on different trips. "That third party saw explicit photos of the victim and the defendant,” he continued.
According to Wright, Abbate threatened the "third party,” by telling her he would show text messages about her marital issues to her husband. "I do have copies of those text messages,” said Wright. well Tori and Jessie were both still on Team Glock for the Bianchi Cup which was during the end of last May: https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/244192_232587900089118_6575534_o.jpg and it does seem that more was going on since she got married again within a few months Jessie is much prettier when she's dressed down. My kind of woman. This pic doesn't do anything for her. LC |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:50:27 PM
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We've all seen, watched, know of those teenage girls who are basically predators, they go after older men... Go on.... |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:52:56 PM
Originally Posted By GeorgeInNePa: Originally Posted By mcantu: Originally Posted By SinistralRifleman: Originally Posted By Silver_Surfer: Wonder if this is why Jessie left Glock? Seems like she was almost a Privateer for awhile. The improper sexual relationship began in spring of 2010 according to various articles. Dave Sevigny and Jessie both left Glock before this story was made public. http://gunnuts.net/2011/08/08/dave-sevigny-leaves-team-glock/ The story broke in mid August 2011. Sevigny left just a couple weeks before. I am guessing he was totally in the dark about this right up until he bailed. The original complaint was made to the police on July 18th. One of the articles says that Abbate's wife (Jessie) became suspicious and started having conversations with the victim (Tori). She probably knew something was up and decided to bail in April of 2011. http://www.downrange.tv/blog/free-agent-abbate/2827/ I'm guessing she is the one that told Tori's parents. And here's another question: Who is the "third party?" http://www.henryherald.com/news/2011/aug/25/conditional-100000-bond-set-abbate/ Wright also said there was a "third party” who traveled with the victim as a guardian, on different trips. "That third party saw explicit photos of the victim and the defendant,” he continued. According to Wright, Abbate threatened the "third party,” by telling her he would show text messages about her marital issues to her husband. "I do have copies of those text messages,” said Wright. well Tori and Jessie were both still on Team Glock for the Bianchi Cup which was during the end of last May: https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/244192_232587900089118_6575534_o.jpg and it does seem that more was going on since she got married again within a few months Who got married again? Jessie Harrison (was Abatte) married Matt Duff a few months after leaving Abatte |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:53:30 PM
She traded up.
Way up. |
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Originally Posted By MrMojoRising: She traded up. Way up. No homo? |
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Great trigger discipline. Do you really think that gun is cocked with a round in the chamber Do you think a loaded gun cares if you got complacent with a unloaded gun? She not complacent, she's following the posing instructions of a professional photographer in a studio. Tigger discipline NAZI's are all  |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:58:41 PM
Originally Posted By mcantu:
Originally Posted By GeorgeInNePa:
Originally Posted By mcantu:
Originally Posted By SinistralRifleman:
Originally Posted By Silver_Surfer:
Wonder if this is why Jessie left Glock? Seems like she was almost a Privateer for awhile. The improper sexual relationship began in spring of 2010 according to various articles. Dave Sevigny and Jessie both left Glock before this story was made public. http://gunnuts.net/2011/08/08/dave-sevigny-leaves-team-glock/ The story broke in mid August 2011. Sevigny left just a couple weeks before. I am guessing he was totally in the dark about this right up until he bailed. The original complaint was made to the police on July 18th. One of the articles says that Abbate's wife (Jessie) became suspicious and started having conversations with the victim (Tori). She probably knew something was up and decided to bail in April of 2011. http://www.downrange.tv/blog/free-agent-abbate/2827/ I'm guessing she is the one that told Tori's parents. And here's another question: Who is the "third party?" http://www.henryherald.com/news/2011/aug/25/conditional-100000-bond-set-abbate/ Wright also said there was a "third party” who traveled with the victim as a guardian, on different trips. "That third party saw explicit photos of the victim and the defendant,” he continued.
According to Wright, Abbate threatened the "third party,” by telling her he would show text messages about her marital issues to her husband. "I do have copies of those text messages,” said Wright. well Tori and Jessie were both still on Team Glock for the Bianchi Cup which was during the end of last May: https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/244192_232587900089118_6575534_o.jpg and it does seem that more was going on since she got married again within a few months Who got married again? Jessie Harrison (was Abatte) married Matt Duff a few months after leaving Abatte http://www.missouriwhitetails.com/forums/files.php?pid=2388211&aid=229564 I did not know that. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:18:13 PM
Originally Posted By USPcompact: I'd wager homo.Originally Posted By MrMojoRising: She traded up. Way up. No homo? |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:22:57 PM
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Originally Posted By TerryC:
I'm subscribed to her FB page, so I get regular updates. From what I can tell she is a smart, level-headed, and extremely talented girl, with a bright future ahead of her. Ripping scabs off old wounds is doing no one any good, especially her. Enough is enough. She should be allowed to go on with her life and not be haunted by this. Just my 2˘. So she posted about how she's trying to leave the country with him? No, must'a miss that one. I seriously doubt that's the kind of thing she's going to put on her fan page.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:24:32 PM
Originally Posted By alc1343:
Originally Posted By USPcompact:
I'd wager homo.
Originally Posted By MrMojoRising:
She traded up. Way up. No homo? Still not as gay as a "yell leader". |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:26:18 PM
Originally Posted By MrMojoRising:
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Originally Posted By USPcompact:
I'd wager homo.
Originally Posted By MrMojoRising:
She traded up. Way up. No homo? Still not as gay as a "yell leader". 
With a collie. Man I can't wait till some drunk asshole at an LSU tailgate in Death Valley slow-roasts a collie over an open pit. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:28:59 PM
Jazz Hands at AssToMouth University!
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KA3B
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:30:36 PM
You'll know the deal if what's his name gets out of jail and marries what's her name.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:39:37 PM
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She was and still is a minor. I find the "outing" of her on a public forum inappropriate and a little disgusting.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:43:12 PM
Originally Posted By TerryC: Originally Posted By Dan_Gray: Originally Posted By TerryC: I'm subscribed to her FB page, so I get regular updates. From what I can tell she is a smart, level-headed, and extremely talented girl, with a bright future ahead of her. Ripping scabs off old wounds is doing no one any good, especially her. Enough is enough. She should be allowed to go on with her life and not be haunted by this. Just my 2˘. So she posted about how she's trying to leave the country with him? No, must'a miss that one. I seriously doubt that's the kind of thing she's going to put on her fan page. I can't say it didn't happen, but even if it did it's none of my business. She was and still is a minor. I find the "outing" of her on a public forum inappropriate and a little disgusting. shes only a 'minor' in 11 states |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:44:10 PM
Originally Posted By SinistralRifleman:
Originally Posted By FortyFiveAutomatic:
ETA: The girl was a victim of sexual abuse. God damn but there's a lot of fuck nuts in this thread.
She recently showed up at her abusers attorneys office with $5000 wanting to flee the country with him. (trying to find the article). William Abbate is an immoral idiot, but the more details that come out make this sound consensual/statutory and the girl as a bit crazy. If she is below the age of consent in the jurisdiction it CANNOT be "consensual" since she cannot give consent. That is just how it works. Abbate took advantage of a child. Her development does not alter the law. Keep your thing out of underage girls. |
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el_hombre
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:47:34 PM
Originally Posted By Forgetfull: I shoot with one of the top women in USPSA on a regular basis and there has been quite a bit of discussion on a womens M ever making it to GM. The general consensus is that women don't have the upper body strength to make it to GM. That said, in a few years, I'm sure Tori will make M.
Originally Posted By GeorgeInNePa: Originally Posted By supdura: lol the greatest part about tori is that she can fuck all of you up in every aspect of shooting She's good, but she's not that good. She's an A and B class shooter. I figured she'd be M by now, does she just not make the As since it seems she shoots fast enough. Tagscribed for a year. As others have pointed out, one guy is already in jail over this. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:58:06 PM
[Last Edit: 8/9/2012 3:12:44 PM by SinistralRifleman]
Originally Posted By brickeyee:
Originally Posted By SinistralRifleman:
Originally Posted By FortyFiveAutomatic:
ETA: The girl was a victim of sexual abuse. God damn but there's a lot of fuck nuts in this thread.
She recently showed up at her abusers attorneys office with $5000 wanting to flee the country with him. (trying to find the article). William Abbate is an immoral idiot, but the more details that come out make this sound consensual/statutory and the girl as a bit crazy. If she is below the age of consent in the jurisdiction it CANNOT be "consensual" since she cannot give consent. That is just how it works. Abbate took advantage of a child. Her development does not alter the law. Keep your thing out of underage girls. I'm not arguing that he shouldn't go to jail. I am saying, from what we know she willingly went along with the inappropriate sexual relationship for months and continued to pursue it after he was arrested. She did not have the legal ability to consent, hence why he is charged with statutory rape (amongst other things). Teen girls are perfectly capable of making terrible decisions on their own, regardless of how their parents raised them, not considering the consequences; which is why these laws exist. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:58:15 PM
Originally Posted By brickeyee: Originally Posted By SinistralRifleman: Originally Posted By FortyFiveAutomatic: ETA: The girl was a victim of sexual abuse. God damn but there's a lot of fuck nuts in this thread. She recently showed up at her abusers attorneys office with $5000 wanting to flee the country with him. (trying to find the article). William Abbate is an immoral idiot, but the more details that come out make this sound consensual/statutory and the girl as a bit crazy. If she is below the age of consent in the jurisdiction it CANNOT be "consensual" since she cannot give consent. That is just how it works. Abbate took advantage of a child. Her development does not alter the law. Keep your thing out of underage girls. iirc, the showing up at the lawyers office to flee with the perp happened when she was over the age of consent... |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:04:17 PM
Originally Posted By TerryC:
Originally Posted By Dan_Gray:
Originally Posted By TerryC:
I'm subscribed to her FB page, so I get regular updates. From what I can tell she is a smart, level-headed, and extremely talented girl, with a bright future ahead of her. Ripping scabs off old wounds is doing no one any good, especially her. Enough is enough. She should be allowed to go on with her life and not be haunted by this. Just my 2˘. So she posted about how she's trying to leave the country with him? No, must'a miss that one. I seriously doubt that's the kind of thing she's going to put on her fan page.
I can't say it didn't happen, but even if it did it's none of my business. She was and still is a minor. I find the "outing" of her on a public forum inappropriate and a little disgusting. When this story broke, mods were very strict about not speculation on the minor and edited quite a few posts in the original thread Guess its common knowledge now... |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:33:11 PM
Originally Posted By precision40:
She was and still is a minor. I find the "outing" of her on a public forum inappropriate and a little disgusting.
I find it very disturbing All of this has been published in several newspapers. I see your point but it is not a secret. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:48:46 PM
I wish I could 'shoot' with her.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 3:52:19 PM
Originally Posted By sturmjr:
I wish I could 'shoot' with her.
Oh god do I wish The nationals are next month. I'm sure she'll be there.  |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 4:00:35 PM
Originally Posted By FrankSL:
I can't believe some of the comments in this thread. So many of you think that because she looks physically "mature" you'd hit it, yet I'd love to see your comments in the PSU/Paterno threads. Want to know how I know you're gay? Want to know how I know that you don't know the law? 17 is legal age of consent. That means, you could legally engage in sexual intercourse with her, if it is consensual; regardless if you are an adult. On a military base, when governed under the UCMJ, legal age of consent is actually 16. Anyway.....you're gayer than the two lesbos that were in front of me at Charlie's Subs today. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 4:04:23 PM
Who do you think would win in a shootout with Paige from Gunsmoke?
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