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BusMaster007 "Firearms Enthusiast" Team Member Joined: Feb 2001  WA, USA Posts: 12128 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/7/2012 11:29:51 PM When you see the '59 De Soto and Frigidare in the front yard... "...DERE' GOES DA NEIGHBORHOOD..." In before someone starts the: ...'cuz, dis'time, it's da ERF-peoples!!!
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Blue_Monkey Team Member Team Member Joined: Mar 2002  MA, USA Posts: 6486 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/7/2012 11:42:22 PM They shoud have made it plant a U.S. flag.
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Krink Member Team Member Joined: Feb 2003  AZ, USA Posts: 5266 Feedback: 100% (4) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/7/2012 11:42:47 PM Originally Posted By hotbiggun42: How is this part of the Muslim Out Reach Program? Coolness factor is Meh. well we can send them to mars
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Lord_Grey_Boots Another misplaced Canuck. Team Member Joined: Jun 2001  WA, USA Posts: 12290 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/7/2012 11:50:35 PM Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: I don't give a fuck what SOME anti-establishment people here say. NASA is still awesome. Yup. And its the best use of government dollars. 100% job creation, with long lasting secondary and tertiary benefits, into goal focused research and development.
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Posted: 8/7/2012 11:53:32 PM [Last Edit: 8/7/2012 11:53:56 PM by ceverett] Originally Posted By Taboot: Originally Posted By ske714: Orbiter Images NASA's Martian Landscape Additions http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/msl/20120807/pia16001-43.jpg It's going to cost a fortune to clean that shit up. eta: 3D glasses time. http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/v2/getMediumImage.php?id=PIA16002 That's a pretty good fucking group from this distance. 0.000011131 MOA, if my calculations are right. For what amounts to a ballistic shot.

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Dagger41 Member Team Member Joined: Sep 2011  AB, CAN Posts: 4590 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/7/2012 11:59:46 PM Looks like the Sky Crane made a smoking hole at full throttle !
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P35FAN Member Joined: Feb 2004  TX, USA Posts: 2798 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/8/2012 12:12:52 AM Dude, wheres my car?
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JAGERBOMBER Member Joined: Aug 2011  NC, USA Posts: 868 Feedback: 100% (26) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/8/2012 12:21:05 AM [Last Edit: 8/8/2012 12:22:15 AM by JAGERBOMBER] Originally Posted By Blue_Monkey: They shoud have made it plant a U.S. flag. we touched it first. its ours.... just like the moon.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 12:26:56 AM [Last Edit: 8/8/2012 12:31:16 AM by Capt-Planet] Originally Posted By JAGERBOMBER: Originally Posted By Blue_Monkey: They shoud have made it plant a U.S. flag. we touched it first. its ours.... just like the moon. Well that doesn't work, because the Soviets sent probes to the moon before us. They also sent probes to Venus and Mars before us. We need boots on the ground to claim it. Here I am! Send me!

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Danner130 Fort Worth, TX Team Member Joined: Jan 2005  DEU Posts: 20613 Feedback: 94% (17) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/8/2012 12:27:09 AM I see bubbles. That was done under water. So, either mars is a big ocean, or that's a swimming pool on Cocoa Beach
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Tim_the_enchanter Member Team Member Joined: Aug 2007  USA Posts: 16509 Feedback: 100% (16) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/8/2012 12:30:00 AM Lets see the Chinese, or Russians pull that off. Fucking amateurs.
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Silver_Surfer I4NI Team Member Joined: Mar 2001  HI, USA Posts: 18742 Feedback: 100% (2) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/8/2012 1:43:50 AM Originally Posted By Pi_r_Round: http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5329/therealmars.jpg Couldn't resist
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Posted: 8/8/2012 1:59:25 AM Originally Posted By Nichonator: Too cool. Is it just me or are they down playing the fact that this little booger is in essence the 1st nuclear powered car.. No, it's not. Actually, they played it down because it could have been the first dirty bomb on Mars. People have protested the use of RTG power supplies in the past because of the risk involved in putting a chunk of plutonium on the tip of a big rocket.. They've learned to keep their mouths shut about it.

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ske714 Member Team Member Joined: Apr 2011  OH, USA Posts: 2964 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/8/2012 2:01:24 AM Originally Posted By E-Mag: I actually have a pair of nice 3d glasses I have to find mine. Need another SI 3D swimsuit issue.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 2:11:13 AM Originally Posted By ceverett: Originally Posted By Taboot: Originally Posted By ske714: Orbiter Images NASA's Martian Landscape Additions http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/msl/20120807/pia16001-43.jpg It's going to cost a fortune to clean that shit up. eta: 3D glasses time. http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/v2/getMediumImage.php?id=PIA16002 That's a pretty good fucking group from this distance. 0.000011131 MOA, if my calculations are right. For what amounts to a ballistic shot. holy living shit awesome

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Posted: 8/8/2012 2:07:53 PM Originally Posted By ceverett: Originally Posted By Taboot: Originally Posted By ske714: Orbiter Images NASA's Martian Landscape Additions http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/msl/20120807/pia16001-43.jpg It's going to cost a fortune to clean that shit up. eta: 3D glasses time. http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/v2/getMediumImage.php?id=PIA16002 That's a pretty good fucking group from this distance. 0.000011131 MOA, if my calculations are right. For what amounts to a ballistic shot. Not bad for off-hand.

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Posted: 8/8/2012 6:10:29 PM Originally Posted By outofstep: Originally Posted By WildApple: I hear it's nukular paowerd It's supposed to last like 2 years Nuclear decay battery. Powerplant should last about 30 years for powering everything. After that it could power sensors, cameras for a looooong time. Weakest link are the exposed motors, which were tested to 3 times life (2 years)- not till destruction or inoperability. This rover should easily last 6 year, I think itll go about 10 years before the motors shit the bed. After that itll be a stationary sensor platform for a long assed time. V'Ger was run on RTG's and its still chucking away... New Horizon will probably be running for a long time as well, too.

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ske714 Member Team Member Joined: Apr 2011  OH, USA Posts: 2965 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/8/2012 6:21:35 PM http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/multimedia/gallery-indexEvents.html
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Posted: 8/8/2012 6:31:54 PM As another poster pointed out in another thread, the JPL Team calculated Mars' location in the solar system and Gale crater's location in Mars' rotation at the time MSL would arrive on the 6th, aimed for a relatively tiny window and planted Curiosity with extreme accuracy without slowing it or entering orbit before deploying the MSL. They targeted Mars and bulls-eyed it with Curiosity. The ultimate windage and elevation corrections. Makes the landing all the more cool.

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brass Serious. Like a Paper Cut. Team Member Joined: May 2003  SD, USA Posts: 22959 Feedback: 100% (65) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/8/2012 6:44:37 PM Originally Posted By mcornell: Originally Posted By Makarov: So we are transforming Mars into the front yard of Bubba's double-wide? If those pics weren't as fake as the moon landings, that would be pretty cool. NASA is getting better with Photoshop and Adobe Premiere, I must admit.
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outofstep Arrogant Engineer Team Member Joined: Apr 2005  FL, USA Posts: 1771 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/8/2012 7:00:07 PM What I think is most interesting about the "black and white" pictures is that they arent. Three separate channels with different data. Wish I knew what wavelengths they each extended to and were approximating, then I could do some color correction/approximation and get some visible false color images out of it. Maybe google will hold my answer
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M4tty Molōn labe Team Member Joined: Jul 2008  VA, USA Posts: 3212 Feedback: 100% (24) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/8/2012 7:14:44 PM Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: I don't give a fuck what SOME anti-establishment people here say. NASA is still awesome.
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THEBAUMER White Cracker Team Member Joined: Nov 2004  FL, USA Posts: 5145 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/8/2012 9:28:18 PM Originally Posted By Blue_Monkey: They shoud have made it plant a U.S. flag. Shelia Jackson Lee would be proud.
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Posted: 8/8/2012 11:31:55 PM Originally Posted By thirsty: As another poster pointed out in another thread, the JPL Team calculated Mars' location in the solar system and Gale crater's location in Mars' rotation at the time MSL would arrive on the 6th, aimed for a relatively tiny window and planted Curiosity with extreme accuracy without slowing it or entering orbit before deploying the MSL. They targeted Mars and bulls-eyed it with Curiosity. The ultimate windage and elevation corrections. Makes the landing all the more cool. Note that my MOA number was for the "group" of curiosity, the skycrane, heat shield, and parachute, not for the landing zone. Just to keep things accurate. (pun intended)

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Posted: 8/8/2012 11:56:54 PM Originally Posted By mcornell: Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7: If we really tried we could have a manned mission there in 5 yrs If we didn't scrap the shuttle that is Free Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: I don't give a fuck what SOME anti-establishment people here say. NASA is still awesome. The problem was not scrapping the shuttle. The problem was not building the next generation launch and crew vehicles so that we would have a replacement for the shuttle. The shuttle was way past its sell by date. If we put the money into it, we would have had a cheaper, more reliable replacement for the shuttle. Maybe two replacements (a heavy cargo lifter and a manned vehicle for astronauts). You mean like SLS and Orion which are still being built?

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Posted: 8/9/2012 7:29:26 PM Originally Posted By HeavyMetal: Originally Posted By mcornell: Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7: If we really tried we could have a manned mission there in 5 yrs If we didn't scrap the shuttle that is Free Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: I don't give a fuck what SOME anti-establishment people here say. NASA is still awesome. The problem was not scrapping the shuttle. The problem was not building the next generation launch and crew vehicles so that we would have a replacement for the shuttle. The shuttle was way past its sell by date. If we put the money into it, we would have had a cheaper, more reliable replacement for the shuttle. Maybe two replacements (a heavy cargo lifter and a manned vehicle for astronauts). You mean like SLS and Orion which are still being built?

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CCW Member Team Member Joined: Dec 2005  TN, USA Posts: 7447 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/9/2012 7:36:04 PM Originally Posted By WildApple: I hear it's nukular paowerd It's supposed to last like 2 years Ha!...only to the first tsunami!
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CCW Member Team Member Joined: Dec 2005  TN, USA Posts: 7448 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/9/2012 7:38:32 PM Originally Posted By Pi_r_Round: http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5329/therealmars.jpg Couldn't resist Thanks to Pi R Round for demonstrating that anybody can photoshop. In fact, the boys at JPL were photoshopping before photoshop was even invented. Some of the photos were probably in the can before Curiosity even landed.
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45-Seventy Member Joined: Apr 2010  TX, USA Posts: 2438 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/9/2012 7:39:12 PM Originally Posted By Pi_r_Round: http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5329/therealmars.jpg Couldn't resist That's some funny shit...
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:24:41 PM Originally Posted By mcornell: Originally Posted By HeavyMetal: Originally Posted By mcornell: Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7: If we really tried we could have a manned mission there in 5 yrs If we didn't scrap the shuttle that is Free Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: I don't give a fuck what SOME anti-establishment people here say. NASA is still awesome. The problem was not scrapping the shuttle. The problem was not building the next generation launch and crew vehicles so that we would have a replacement for the shuttle. The shuttle was way past its sell by date. If we put the money into it, we would have had a cheaper, more reliable replacement for the shuttle. Maybe two replacements (a heavy cargo lifter and a manned vehicle for astronauts). You mean like SLS and Orion which are still being built? What are you sulking about? The heavy lifter and the Orion are being built. The only true cancellation was the underperforming Ares I and it might still live as the ATK Libetty. An amazing thing happened two years ago, a unaimous senate and 3/4 of the congress voted to override the space policy of a sitting president and repudiate his attempte to cancel a major program. It isn't a secret but most of Arfcom is oblivious to the fact that both these programs are currently funded, on-track and under-budget in SPITE of Obama.

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Posted: 8/10/2012 1:55:35 AM Originally Posted By HeavyMetal: Originally Posted By mcornell: Originally Posted By HeavyMetal: Originally Posted By mcornell: Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7: If we really tried we could have a manned mission there in 5 yrs If we didn't scrap the shuttle that is Free Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: I don't give a fuck what SOME anti-establishment people here say. NASA is still awesome. The problem was not scrapping the shuttle. The problem was not building the next generation launch and crew vehicles so that we would have a replacement for the shuttle. The shuttle was way past its sell by date. If we put the money into it, we would have had a cheaper, more reliable replacement for the shuttle. Maybe two replacements (a heavy cargo lifter and a manned vehicle for astronauts). You mean like SLS and Orion which are still being built? What are you sulking about? The heavy lifter and the Orion are being built. The only true cancellation was the underperforming Ares I and it might still live as the ATK Libetty. An amazing thing happened two years ago, a unaimous senate and 3/4 of the congress voted to override the space policy of a sitting president and repudiate his attempte to cancel a major program. It isn't a secret but most of Arfcom is oblivious to the fact that both these programs are currently funded, on-track and under-budget in SPITE of Obama. Too bad they didn't work off of the Saturn V design. I was reading that the SLS in it's most powerful configuration will have about 20% more thrust, using a bunch of boosters all strapped together. A sixpack of F-1s would have been badass.

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FrankSymptoms Veteran of the Third Battle of Tannhauser Gate. Team Member Joined: Dec 2005  NM, USA Posts: 29255 Feedback: 100% (6) Link To This Post	Posted: 8/10/2012 2:05:20 AM Originally Posted By Silver_Surfer: Originally Posted By Pi_r_Round: http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5329/therealmars.jpg Couldn't resist
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Posted: 8/10/2012 2:14:19 AM Originally Posted By CCW: Originally Posted By Pi_r_Round: http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5329/therealmars.jpg Couldn't resist Thanks to Pi R Round for demonstrating that anybody can photoshop. In fact, the boys at JPL were photoshopping before photoshop was even invented. Some of the photos were probably in the can before Curiosity even landed. Let's not forget who has them ALL beat!

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Posted: 8/10/2012 2:15:44 AM Originally Posted By HeavyMetal: Originally Posted By mcornell: Originally Posted By HeavyMetal: Originally Posted By mcornell: Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7: If we really tried we could have a manned mission there in 5 yrs If we didn't scrap the shuttle that is Free Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: I don't give a fuck what SOME anti-establishment people here say. NASA is still awesome. The problem was not scrapping the shuttle. The problem was not building the next generation launch and crew vehicles so that we would have a replacement for the shuttle. The shuttle was way past its sell by date. If we put the money into it, we would have had a cheaper, more reliable replacement for the shuttle. Maybe two replacements (a heavy cargo lifter and a manned vehicle for astronauts). You mean like SLS and Orion which are still being built? What are you sulking about? The heavy lifter and the Orion are being built. The only true cancellation was the underperforming Ares I and it might still live as the ATK Libetty. An amazing thing happened two years ago, a unaimous senate and 3/4 of the congress voted to override the space policy of a sitting president and repudiate his attempte to cancel a major program. It isn't a secret but most of Arfcom is oblivious to the fact that both these programs are currently funded, on-track and under-budget in SPITE of Obama. Nevertheless, it may be a good thing that the MSM hasn't made a big deal of it.

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Posted: 8/10/2012 12:03:40 PM [Last Edit: 8/10/2012 12:12:16 PM by ske714] PIA16029: Gale Crater Vista, in Glorious Color Original Caption Released with Image: This is the first 360-degree panorama in color of the Gale Crater landing site taken by NASA's Curiosity rover. The panorama was made from thumbnail versions of images taken by the Mast Camera. Scientists will be taking a closer look at several splotches in the foreground that appear gray. These areas show the effects of the descent stage's rocket engines blasting the ground. What appeared as a dark strip of dunes in previous, black-and-white pictures from Curiosity can also be seen along the top of this mosaic, but the color images also reveal additional shades of reddish brown around the dunes, likely indicating different textures or materials. Direct link to image (you'll want to see this big version) http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA16029.jpg

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