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Posted: 8/4/2012 5:58:46 PM
Originally Posted By nightstalker:
Go nag NYC or Chicago. Plenty of folks there are TRULY disarmed, not just saddled with quirky laws. Hawaii's not so good either except they allow motorcyclists the choice on helmets. Brady Campaign: CA has strongest gun control laws |
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Posted: 8/4/2012 7:11:43 PM
Originally Posted By NagOrzo15-1:
Originally Posted By nightstalker:
Go nag NYC or Chicago. Plenty of folks there are TRULY disarmed, not just saddled with quirky laws. Hawaii's not so good either except they allow motorcyclists the choice on helmets. Brady Campaign: CA has strongest gun control laws You swallow the propaganda of the enemy.? Plenty of cases headed to the SC. I'm more concerned about my State spending and all the agencies of business regulation. Cities going BK. Those were some dopey comments from the Brady spokes-hole about not being able to get hi-caps or that bullet buttons save lives. This state has plenty of guns, plenty of hi-caps and plenty of ARs. As long as the crazy person is motivated they could steal all that stuff. Even the Brady guy said the laws are over kill. Ironic use of words...c'mon. |
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Posted: 8/4/2012 7:27:16 PM
Figured this would happen.
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Posted: 8/4/2012 8:08:25 PM
Originally Posted By Warhawk:
Originally Posted By derekv814:
+1 for a border fence to defend AZ from CA. Do they still have that AZ/CA border checkpoint on I-40 where they check for illegal fruits and vegatables, coming INTO Calif.? That one always cracked me up. Yeah they do. Up until motorized travel the desert was a natural barrier for critters that are bad juju for California farms. |
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Posted: 8/4/2012 8:41:48 PM
The interesting thing is that there are a lot of newbie cops, read 19-25 year old kids, out there who've bought OLL rifles over the years.
They are not necessarily "gun enthusiasts" either. Unless you are: an enthusiast who's been vested in keeping an eye on Ca. firearms laws, a Ca. resident that has been through the long history of attempts by this state to ban AWs, or maybe somebody who's just able to read into the complexity of the various Ca. AW laws then this whole thing is a quagmire... Of the "newbie cop types" not terribly many of them understand why they cannot use 30 round magazines with their OLL "bullet button" rifle. Even the ones who fancy themselves as a "gun nut" don't understand the actual lay out of the law or worse some of them just don't care meaning they think being a cop gives them an exemption. Fact is the Ca. AW laws don't care about LE status with regards to this mess. The only way a cop should have an "assault weapon" is if it's been registered in accordance with DOJ policy with the blessing of a police letter head asking for registration of the weapon to the officer. Many departments have began not issuing those letter heads ever since the opinion letter issued by Moonbeam before he left the DOJ and became govenor moonbeam. You think the average young kid cop is going to understand the nuances of this stupid law much less the requirement that they, as cops, should be welding their magazine button solid? Stupid law is going to cause a LOT of problems. I hope it does wind up with law suits going to the supreme court and wind up turning the entire AW law on it's head. But I'll remain jaded and skeptical that such a thing will ever happen. Hence the reason I stay away from Calguns, they seem to have a high percentage of the deluded optimism types that was evidenced by that of the typical unloaded open carry demonstrator. |
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Posted: 8/4/2012 8:52:56 PM
But the weather is so nice!
When are Californian gunners going to learn? Frogs in a pot over the fire |
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Posted: 8/4/2012 8:54:24 PM
Did I mention fuck this state, and fuck 90% of the calguns moron retarded fuck wads.
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Posted: 8/4/2012 8:59:13 PM
SacBee - Calif. bill seeks to tighten assault weapons law
By DON THOMPSON - Updated: 12:05 pm
Legislation that has the backing of California's attorney general would close a loophole in the nation's toughest assault weapons law, making it more difficult for guns to be swiftly reloaded with high-capacity magazines. |
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Posted: 8/4/2012 9:36:49 PM
Press blitz rolling out.
Sounds like these fuckers are ramping up an offensive while the blood from Aurora is still wet. Sick fucks. http://wap.ktvu.com/wap/news/text.jsp?sid=242&nid=2687791319&cid=5038&scid=-1&ith=2&title=Local+News&headtitle=Local+News |
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Posted: 8/4/2012 9:39:38 PM
What in the blue fuck is this?
Cal Guns Foundation retweeted the following from the STOPAB249 twitter account: t was fun beating both versions of @LelandYee, @akeigwin, @JPRognerud's #guncontrol bill #SB249. Looking forward to beating #SB249 again. What the fuck are they TALKING about? They "beat" both versions of the bill? Two prior versions existed, but in each case they were amended to make the law more restrictive / more onerous. Are these guys so deluded that they count THAT as battle victories? |
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Posted: 8/4/2012 9:48:29 PM
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Posted: 8/4/2012 10:16:38 PM
Originally Posted By uglygun:
The interesting thing is that there are a lot of newbie cops, read 19-25 year old kids, out there who've bought OLL rifles over the years. They are not necessarily "gun enthusiasts" either. Unless you are: an enthusiast who's been vested in keeping an eye on Ca. firearms laws, a Ca. resident that has been through the long history of attempts by this state to ban AWs, or maybe somebody who's just able to read into the complexity of the various Ca. AW laws then this whole thing is a quagmire... Of the "newbie cop types" not terribly many of them understand why they cannot use 30 round magazines with their OLL "bullet button" rifle. Even the ones who fancy themselves as a "gun nut" don't understand the actual lay out of the law or worse some of them just don't care meaning they think being a cop gives them an exemption. Fact is the Ca. AW laws don't care about LE status with regards to this mess. The only way a cop should have an "assault weapon" is if it's been registered in accordance with DOJ policy with the blessing of a police letter head asking for registration of the weapon to the officer. Many departments have began not issuing those letter heads ever since the opinion letter issued by Moonbeam before he left the DOJ and became govenor moonbeam. You think the average young kid cop is going to understand the nuances of this stupid law much less the requirement that they, as cops, should be welding their magazine button solid? Stupid law is going to cause a LOT of problems. I hope it does wind up with law suits going to the supreme court and wind up turning the entire AW law on it's head. But I'll remain jaded and skeptical that such a thing will ever happen. Hence the reason I stay away from Calguns, they seem to have a high percentage of the deluded optimism types that was evidenced by that of the typical unloaded open carry demonstrator. I don't think for a second that any cop will be prosecuted after this law passes. If one or two get in trouble, they'll just pass a new law with an exemption for LEO. This law will not get to the SC, and even if it does, now that Roberts has proven himself a traitor it won't do any good. |
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Posted: 8/4/2012 10:22:45 PM
Make it a slide lever. Or a rotary key, or take a 30 round clip from the bottom with a built in spring.
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Posted: 8/4/2012 10:52:02 PM
Originally Posted By EXPcustom:
Hey for you Cali bashers, how about being part of the solution instead of part of the problem.  We don't really need a pile on about how much Cali sucks because most of you live in fly-over country!  k thanks So California doesn't suck? |
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Posted: 8/5/2012 3:10:56 AM
[Last Edit: 8/5/2012 3:11:23 AM by NagOrzo15-1]
Originally Posted By RJeff21:
Originally Posted By EXPcustom:
Hey for you Cali bashers, how about being part of the solution instead of part of the problem. We don't really need a pile on about how much Cali sucks because most of you live in fly-over country! k thanks So California doesn't suck? Oh it sucks alright. Head over to the Calguns.net 2A forum and pull up the Stop AB249 thread for a currently festering pissing contest between different California gun orgs over "theft" of "work product" (posters opposing the bill) for "pecuniary" interest. E.g., they're sniping with each other over who ought to get the panicked donations from California gun owning schmucks, such donations ostensibly to oppose the bill, which everyone knows will pass with with little problem. They're raising funds like mad over this and they know its going to pass anyway. "Donate! We've got a secret plan! Its the briar patch! Chess not checkers! Hey fucker, those are my panicked gun owner donations!" Pathetic. |
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Posted: 8/5/2012 3:55:21 AM
I hope an 249 passes! Honestly do.
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Posted: 8/5/2012 3:57:55 AM
GIVE US some CASH NOW111!!11
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Posted: 8/5/2012 4:02:47 AM
[Last Edit: 8/5/2012 4:09:04 AM by Thrasymachus]
Originally Posted By NagOrzo15-1:
Originally Posted By RJeff21:
Originally Posted By EXPcustom:
Hey for you Cali bashers, how about being part of the solution instead of part of the problem. We don't really need a pile on about how much Cali sucks because most of you live in fly-over country! k thanks So California doesn't suck? Oh it sucks alright. Head over to the Calguns.net 2A forum and pull up the Stop AB249 thread for a currently festering pissing contest between different California gun orgs over "theft" of "work product" (posters opposing the bill) for "pecuniary" interest. E.g., they're sniping with each other over who ought to get the panicked donations from California gun owning schmucks, such donations ostensibly to oppose the bill, which everyone knows will pass with with little problem. They're raising funds like mad over this and they know its going to pass anyway. "Donate! We've got a secret plan! Its the briar patch! Chess not checkers! Hey fucker, those are my panicked gun owner donations!" Pathetic. I'm curious, what did you do from 1994-2004? Did you post a bunch of ramblings on the internet about how the US sucked? Or did you sack up and leave the oppression of the 94 AWB? 
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Posted: 8/5/2012 4:05:19 AM
[Last Edit: 8/5/2012 4:09:09 AM by Armed_Scientist]
The problem is you have pro-business states attract businesses, which attracts populations, which breeds idiots, which elect democrats and destroy what attracted them to the state in the first place. We're starting to see that happen with Texas, and once Texas and it's electoral votes go blue that's the end of the world boys and girls.
We're screwed unless we solve our demographics issues, which we won't do, so our children can look forward to living in a third world country. Wish Singapore had better gun laws and a bigger aerospace industry, I need a place to flee too. |
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Posted: 8/5/2012 6:51:32 AM
Originally Posted By EXPcustom:
GIVE US some CASH NOW111!!11 NO, the CA Constition has nothing about " the right to keep and bear arms" in it. It has something to with a thing in the 1800s about locoal indain tribes. Calfornia should fall into the ocean. |
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Posted: 8/5/2012 2:34:45 PM
Originally Posted By Mach:
Make it a slide lever. Or a rotary key, or take a 30 round clip from the bottom with a built in spring. You cannot do over 10 rounds. See, it is also possible to create an assault weapon if it's a semiauto center fire with a fixed magazine over 10 rounds. It's one of the other definitions that nobody ever pays attention to because they are usually fixed on detachable mag issue in combination with evil features. |
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Posted: 8/5/2012 3:03:14 PM
I find the OP's vitriol towards California irrational and at times comical. What has happened to the political landscape of California is currently underway in Colorado. Pat Stryker, Jared Polis, Tim Gill and Rutt Bridges have a disproportionate influence in Colorado politics and the fruits of their labor has been realized in the redistricting of Congressional districts. If the Op lives where I think he does - his congressional district has been radically changed and his vote will not matter because a prominent northern county has been rolled into liberal Boulder. (I guess its time for you to move).
As a wise founding father once said: "Gentlemen we must all hang together or we shall most assuredly all hang separately" |
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Posted: 8/5/2012 4:02:52 PM
Originally Posted By Lazarae:
Originally Posted By EXPcustom:
GIVE US some CASH NOW111!!11 NO, the CA Constition has nothing about " the right to keep and bear arms" in it. It has something to with a thing in the 1800s about locoal indain tribes. Calfornia should fall into the ocean. You are correct that the State Constitution does not contain a right to "keep and bear arms". I would posit that the average Californian of 1849 read the 2nd Amendment of the BOR and knew that once California entered the Union, the state's residents would have become "the people" of the 2nd Amendment. The 2nd Amendment by its language is incorporated. |
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Posted: 8/5/2012 4:19:50 PM
As Eddie Murphy said in describing stupid white people, who have been given multiple warnings in the movie Poltergeist but who elected to stay in the house said-
GET THE FUCK OUT! |
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Posted: 8/5/2012 4:19:53 PM
Grew up in Santa Barbara Calif. but left in about 1984 (seemed that I had another moment of insanity and wanted to re-start my marrage - big mistake). Gun laws not bad then - use to shoot at a range in the mountains in back of the city - but sadly, from all I read here, things have really changed.
Now, I walk up the street (in our rural community here in southern New Mexico) with what ever I want (this AM it was my RRA AR and a .22 pistol) and shoot at one of our farms. It is very unusal NOT to see some carring around here - seems no on gives a shit one way or another. Love this place. |
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Posted: 8/5/2012 4:29:40 PM
Originally Posted By Will:
As Eddie Murphy said in describing stupid white people, who have been given multiple warnings in the movie Poltergeist but who elected to stay in the house said- GET THE FUCK OUT! Ironic considering your tag line. God Bless the Republic of Texas! |
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Posted: 8/5/2012 4:34:00 PM
Originally Posted By Warhawk: They had one on I-80 outside Reno, NV last time I went out that way a couple years ago. Originally Posted By derekv814: +1 for a border fence to defend AZ from CA. Do they still have that AZ/CA border checkpoint on I-40 where they check for illegal fruits and vegatables, coming INTO Calif.? That one always cracked me up. |
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Posted: 8/5/2012 5:15:41 PM
Originally Posted By NagOrzo15-1:
Originally Posted By EXPcustom:
Hey for you Cali bashers, how about being part of the solution instead of part of the problem. We don't really need a pile on about how much Cali sucks because most of you live in fly-over country! k thanks Here is the solution: Get out of there. Take the blinders off your eyes, quit sitting there fat, dumb and happy –– and satisfied with neutered absurdities –– get your family and your talents and move to somewhere in which the political system of accountability actually works. Dude, he's part of the problem. You really want him? |
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Posted: 8/5/2012 5:21:41 PM
Originally Posted By NagOrzo15-1:
Originally Posted By operatorerror:
Nag, thanks for the update. Now what do you suggest we do about this? I mean besides phone calls, e-mails, letter writing, donations to the NRA, CRPA, GOA, etc. I regularly take newcomers to the range, most have made gun purchases soon afterwards. I honestly think that some of us are at least trying to wake up the general populace. My local shops are swamped every time I go in. Moving is not an option at this point for myself and I'm sure many others. We're stuck here due to various reasons. Any ideas? Friend, I'm at a loss. I had high hopes for the commission that was supposed to look over the redistricting process, but it floundered and failed. Truly, the system is so far gone that I honestly can't see what gun owners can do there. There are not enough of you to affect the gerrymandered voting districts. Maybe you can "go Galt" while living there, trying to minimize your contribution to the machine, but I get back to my analogy of the concentration camp and I think I'd just get out. You can talk football strategy all day long, but if the other team has paid the refs to make you lose, you're best off getting off the field and refusing to play in such a sham. On a broader level, I've been trying to get a couple big 2A names to jump in with me to write a law review article that deals with the regulatory limits in terms of "what" can and cannot be banned. It may be that some more good rulings out of Scotus will help, but with Roberts deciding that his status at cocktail parties in DC is more important than the constitution, I'd be reticent to depend on new rulings on the national level for a while. The likely solution is state bankrutcy. Maybe court rulings can save some of our gun rights in the meantime. |
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Posted: 8/5/2012 5:22:57 PM
OK here is my take on it after going over to CalGuns and looking at the herp-derp there concerning the issue......SKSs will really climb in price now. Fucking CA.
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Posted: 8/5/2012 5:26:20 PM
Originally Posted By DonS: Originally Posted By NagOrzo15-1: Originally Posted By EXPcustom: Hey for you Cali bashers, how about being part of the solution instead of part of the problem.
We don't really need a pile on about how much Cali sucks because most of you live in fly-over country!
k thanks Here is the solution: Get out of there. Take the blinders off your eyes, quit sitting there fat, dumb and happy –– and satisfied with neutered absurdities –– get your family and your talents and move to somewhere in which the political system of accountability actually works. Dude, he's part of the problem. You really want him? How am I a part of the God damn problem?!
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Posted: 8/5/2012 6:10:08 PM
[Last Edit: 8/5/2012 6:10:42 PM by Mall-Ninja]
Originally Posted By EXPcustom:
Originally Posted By DonS:
Originally Posted By NagOrzo15-1:
Originally Posted By EXPcustom:
Hey for you Cali bashers, how about being part of the solution instead of part of the problem. We don't really need a pile on about how much Cali sucks because most of you live in fly-over country! k thanks Here is the solution: Get out of there. Take the blinders off your eyes, quit sitting there fat, dumb and happy –– and satisfied with neutered absurdities –– get your family and your talents and move to somewhere in which the political system of accountability actually works. Dude, he's part of the problem. You really want him? How am I a part of the God damn problem?! Because you're willing to trample over other people's rights to align with your "big city thinking" in other areas. The problem is, they're now trampling over OUR rights. |
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Posted: 8/5/2012 6:37:52 PM
Originally Posted By Banjaxed:
Originally Posted By SkilletsUSMC:
Originally Posted By 41Fan:
Buld the border fence. Put it around California. They keep fleeing to Texas and bringing their liberal politics with them. How are the people that are fleeing to TX BECAUSE of the conservative laws/culture be bringing their liberal laws with them? I ask because I will likely be moving to Houston in Jan/2013, and I am going there BECAUSE it is a deep red state. Liberals flee the shit social and economic conditions their ways create. Not being able to add 2+2 to get 4 they continue their bleeding heart ways and elect liberal politicians in their new surroundings. Like any other parasite, once they kill their host they move on to the next one. |
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Posted: 8/5/2012 6:39:23 PM
Originally Posted By EXPcustom:
Originally Posted By SkilletsUSMC:
Don't send the funds to me.Originally Posted By EXPcustom:
Originally Posted By SkilletsUSMC:
Originally Posted By EXPcustom:
Hey for you Cali bashers, how about being part of the solution instead of part of the problem. We don't really need a pile on about how much Cali sucks because most of you live in fly-over country! k thanks How can we be part of the solution...invade the place? No.  Just send us cash, for premium attorney's fees to fight these laws.  Roger that... Just IM me an address and I'll get some funds out ASAP. I'm down with the struggle... http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i172/schkoot/1344106678.jpg
Send them to Cal-Guns or any California pro-2A charity.  Also for all you people bitching about our budget problems, you know you can take initiative, step up to the plate and send Sacramento some cash since we have been carrying a lot of you red state moochers for the past God damn 20 years! I was going to tell you move, but I think you are perfect where you are. |
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Posted: 8/5/2012 8:50:24 PM
Originally Posted By Mall-Ninja: Originally Posted By EXPcustom: Originally Posted By DonS: Originally Posted By NagOrzo15-1: Originally Posted By EXPcustom: Hey for you Cali bashers, how about being part of the solution instead of part of the problem.
We don't really need a pile on about how much Cali sucks because most of you live in fly-over country!
k thanks Here is the solution: Get out of there. Take the blinders off your eyes, quit sitting there fat, dumb and happy –– and satisfied with neutered absurdities –– get your family and your talents and move to somewhere in which the political system of accountability actually works. Dude, he's part of the problem. You really want him? How am I a part of the God damn problem?! Because you're willing to trample over other people's rights to align with your "big city thinking" in other areas. The problem is, they're now trampling over OUR rights. Oh, well that's different.
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Posted: 8/7/2012 12:24:01 PM
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:08:03 AM
[Last Edit: 8/9/2012 1:08:58 AM by Sleepy1988]
I know the NRA and other gun rights orgs are reluctant to jump into bed with any single political party, but this at least shows the official position of the DNC on the issue, even if there are Dems out there who honestly believe in gun rights. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:20:46 AM
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Nope people just ignored it
LEO didn't care and it wasn't really enforced anyway. Free Originally Posted By Thrasymachus:
Originally Posted By NagOrzo15-1:
Originally Posted By RJeff21:
Originally Posted By EXPcustom:
Hey for you Cali bashers, how about being part of the solution instead of part of the problem. We don't really need a pile on about how much Cali sucks because most of you live in fly-over country! k thanks So California doesn't suck? Oh it sucks alright. Head over to the Calguns.net 2A forum and pull up the Stop AB249 thread for a currently festering pissing contest between different California gun orgs over "theft" of "work product" (posters opposing the bill) for "pecuniary" interest. E.g., they're sniping with each other over who ought to get the panicked donations from California gun owning schmucks, such donations ostensibly to oppose the bill, which everyone knows will pass with with little problem. They're raising funds like mad over this and they know its going to pass anyway. "Donate! We've got a secret plan! Its the briar patch! Chess not checkers! Hey fucker, those are my panicked gun owner donations!" Pathetic. I'm curious, what did you do from 1994-2004? Did you post a bunch of ramblings on the internet about how the US sucked? Or did you sack up and leave the oppression of the 94 AWB?
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:36:12 AM
I lost all of my bullet button rifles in a tragic boating accident. Sucks.....
This bill won't pass though. CA gun ownership has been on the rise for the past 8 years, and crime has been on the decline. This is one of the types of bills that gets introduced every fucking year that gets shot down in flames. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:01:12 AM
Just keep on not caring about California and this crap will spread to your state
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Posted: 8/9/2012 4:26:04 AM
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Just keep on not caring about California and this crap will spread to your state Wonder how long before the Texan version of EXP pops up....  |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 4:42:09 AM
Originally Posted By marksman121:
Originally Posted By 500SWshooter:
Just keep on not caring about California and this crap will spread to your state Wonder how long before the Texan version of EXP pops up.... It will have to be soon, the cosmic balance of smug trolls must be restored. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 8:23:51 AM
Originally Posted By madbarbarian87:
I lost all of my bullet button rifles in a tragic boating accident. Sucks..... This bill won't pass though. CA gun ownership has been on the rise for the past 8 years, and crime has been on the decline. This is one of the types of bills that gets introduced every fucking year that gets shot down in flames. Open carry bans got proposed, passed, and signed before we had any chance to even say "what?" Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 11:20:52 AM
I don't understand why some people here want CA to pass tighter gun control laws and "screw CA" because they somehow deserve it. There is an old saying, "so goes California so goes the nation". These laws will serve as an example to other states whose legislatures would also like to and not have a problem passing such laws.
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Posted: 8/9/2012 12:07:28 PM
Originally Posted By EXPcustom:
Hey for you Cali bashers, how about being part of the solution instead of part of the problem. We don't really need a pile on about how much Cali sucks because most of you live in fly-over country! k thanks there is no solution to CA being anti-gun. sorry. if SCOTUS came down tomorrow and said "all gun laws are illegal", certain states (CA, CT, NY, NJ, MA) would fight tooth-and-nail to make sure they could continue fucking with gun owners just as DC did after heller. not trying to ant-burn here, but we need to be a little realistic. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 1:11:08 PM
I don't understand people who say "I won't comply!"
So you don't comply - now you can't go shoot your rifle for fun without being worried about getting a felony. You can't use your weapon for self defense, because you'll land in jail. You can bury your gun in the backyard and what? Use it if China invades? Might as well just turn it in, it's not doing you any good. These laws and the anti gun culture are what need to be stopped. But FUCK this place. I'm out as soon as possible. I won't be treated like a criminal by my own government any longer. |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:12:16 PM
Originally Posted By bullyforyou:
Originally Posted By EXPcustom:
Hey for you Cali bashers, how about being part of the solution instead of part of the problem. We don't really need a pile on about how much Cali sucks because most of you live in fly-over country! k thanks there is no solution to CA being anti-gun. sorry. if SCOTUS came down tomorrow and said "all gun laws are illegal", certain states (CA, CT, NY, NJ, MA) would fight tooth-and-nail to make sure they could continue fucking with gun owners just as DC did after heller. not trying to ant-burn here, but we need to be a little realistic. Integration of a certain high school in Little Rock required the assistance of the 101st Airborne. We always like to say that we have firearms ultimately to defend against tyranny. I can think of no greater tyranny than a government blatantly and flagrantly disregarding the supreme law of the land, ignoring it and by doing so declaring that there is no law except the law of the state of the day. What are the anti states going to do, secede? |
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madbarbarian87
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:22:45 PM
Originally Posted By Mall-Ninja:
Originally Posted By madbarbarian87:
I lost all of my bullet button rifles in a tragic boating accident. Sucks..... This bill won't pass though. CA gun ownership has been on the rise for the past 8 years, and crime has been on the decline. This is one of the types of bills that gets introduced every fucking year that gets shot down in flames. Open carry bans got proposed, passed, and signed before we had any chance to even say "what?" Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Mainly because the people representing the open carry side thought walking around in public places with shotgun/rifle/pistol would go over well with the public. There are better ways to raise public awareness than to shove it in everyone's face (ex. gay rights parades) |
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:36:24 PM
Originally Posted By Standard:
I don't understand people who say "I won't comply!" So you don't comply - now you can't go shoot your rifle for fun without being worried about getting a felony. You can't use your weapon for self defense, because you'll land in jail. You can bury your gun in the backyard and what? Use it if China invades? Might as well just turn it in, it's not doing you any good. These laws and the anti gun culture are what need to be stopped. But FUCK this place. I'm out as soon as possible. I won't be treated like a criminal by my own government any longer. Most who stay will have to do something like this to avoid magazines being welded or held by a rivet in the receivers. 
Excuse me while I puke my lungs out. |
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Hanzerik
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Posted: 8/9/2012 2:50:45 PM
Originally Posted By 500SWshooter:
Just keep on not caring about California and this crap will spread to your state Very seriously doubt that. |
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