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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: There's some big essay somewhere online about FMJ with all of these weird explanations for things that happened in the movie. For example, it claims that that whole scene where Pyle kills Hartman and himself was actually a dream sequence and how Pyle and Animal Mother were actually the same person and all that crap. Wish I could find it again. I can see that. Especially since the characters were played by two different actors No, I meant it makes sense. I know a guy that went into the Marines as a "Pyle" and came home from Viet Nam a "Animal Mother". |
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R Lee Ermey is like the role he played, pure fiction. I wish HE would choke himself.
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I will ask R Lee Ermey if he chose the wrong method to diffuse that situation. Im pretty sure he followed the script.... |
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If he's willing to choke out my 6 year old what do you think he's going to do to you? http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff98/mailbcw/IMG_0091.jpg OK I can't stand the guy, but that right there is pure AWESOME! |
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According to director John Boorman,Stanley Kubrick wanted to cast Bill McKinney in the role of Gunnery Sgt. Hartman. However,Kubrick was so unsettled after viewing McKinney's performance in "Deliverance" that he declined to meet with him,saying he was simply too frightened at the idea of being in McKinney's presence. Kubrick then hired Tim Colceri to play Hartman. Colceri never got to play the role,as former US Marine Corps Drill Instructor R. Lee Ermey,consultant for the Marine Corps boot camp portion of the film,performed a demonstration on videotape in which he yelled obscene insults and abuse for 15 minutes without stopping,repeating himself or even flinching - despite being continuously pelted with tennis balls and oranges. Stanley Kubrick was so impressed that he cast Ermey as Hartman. Colceri was bitter but accepted Kubrick's consolation prize of a small role as a helicopter door-gunner. The videotape demonstration was not the only factor which got R. Lee Ermey the role as the drill instructor. Ermey went to Stanley Kubrick and asked for the part,as the actors on the set were,in his opinion,not up to snuff. When Kubrick declined,Ermey barked an order for Kubrick to stand up when he was spoken to,and the director instinctively obeyed. That sealed the matter,and Ermey won the part as Gunnery Sgt. Hartmann. |
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I read somewhere he got the part by doing a 20 minute "Sgt. Hartman" without a script, just an improv based on experience. I also recall that they had to do quite a few takes because people started laughing. But I may be remembering it wrong. OP, ask him how he would have handled such a situation instead of asking why the character did this or that. |
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Upon finding out that one of his recruits has a possibly loaded weapon with an undetermined number of rounds, instead of trying to talk Recruit Lawrence into disarming himself, I would have calmly ordered Private Joker to clear out the squad bay and get him to call the MPs and an assistant Drill Instructor to keep order. He didn't do that and paid for it with his life. Luckily, Recruit Lawrence decided to kill himself rather than shoot 19 of his fellow recruits. If I go to SHOT Show next year, I will ask R Lee Ermey if he chose the wrong method to diffuse that situation. I'm sure R Lee Ermey will think you are a tool if you do that. a "JACKWAGON!" to be more specific. |
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Hooray! You win dumbest post of the day!!!! Yep, the OP must be 10 years old. |
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If he's willing to choke out my 6 year old what do you think he's going to do to you? http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff98/mailbcw/IMG_0091.jpg OK I can't stand the guy, but that right there is pure AWESOME! I can tell you he's the nicest celebrity I've ever met. He stood for four hours signing as many autographs and photos as you wanted (I got six and they were personalized, ie to my little brother he addressed him as Captain and my BIL he addressed him as LtCol), refused lunch and took only one piss break and was only gone for about three minutes. Now someone might think that's the job he's getting paid to do and while I agree, most guys his age would have wanted or needed some kind of break. He asked if I was raising the kids right, shooting, hunting, fishing, etc. Very genuine and a complete shock from his normal, perceived persona. With my oldest son. |
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Quoted: Take it up with Gustav Hasford. Private Pyle killed Gerheim (Hartman) in Short Timers.Quoted: Upon finding out that one of his recruits has a possibly loaded weapon with an undetermined number of rounds, instead of trying to talk Recruit Lawrence into disarming himself, I would have calmly ordered Private Joker to clear out the squad bay and get him to call the MPs and an assistant Drill Instructor to keep order. He didn't do that and paid for it with his life. Luckily, Recruit Lawrence decided to kill himself rather than shoot 19 of his fellow recruits. If I go to SHOT Show next year, I will ask R Lee Ermey if he chose the wrong method to diffuse that situation. You realize someone else wrote the script? Take it up with Stanley Kubrick. |
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Dude, it's a movie. And your version, while "proper"...fucking sucks, as a movie.
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Upon finding out that one of his recruits has a possibly loaded weapon with an undetermined number of rounds, instead of trying to talk Recruit Lawrence into disarming himself, I would have calmly ordered Private Joker to clear out the squad bay and get him to call the MPs and an assistant Drill Instructor to keep order. He didn't do that and paid for it with his life. Luckily, Recruit Lawrence decided to kill himself rather than shoot 19 of his fellow recruits. If I go to SHOT Show next year, I will ask R Lee Ermey if he chose the wrong method to diffuse that situation. You realize someone else wrote the script? Take it up with Stanley Kubrick. And the Novel that the Script was based on.... "The Short Timers" By Gustav Hasford... take it up with him. |
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Upon finding out that one of his recruits has a possibly loaded weapon with an undetermined number of rounds, instead of trying to talk Recruit Lawrence into disarming himself, I would have calmly ordered Private Joker to clear out the squad bay and get him to call the MPs and an assistant Drill Instructor to keep order. He didn't do that and paid for it with his life. Luckily, Recruit Lawrence decided to kill himself rather than shoot 19 of his fellow recruits. If I go to SHOT Show next year, I will ask R Lee Ermey if he chose the wrong method to diffuse that situation. I'm sure R Lee Ermey will think you are a tool if you do that. first post wins again.... OP don't be a tool. |
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Quoted: Upon finding out that one of his recruits has a possibly loaded weapon with an undetermined number of rounds, instead of trying to talk Recruit Lawrence into disarming himself, I would have calmly ordered Private Joker to clear out the squad bay and get him to call the MPs and an assistant Drill Instructor to keep order. He didn't do that and paid for it with his life. Luckily, Recruit Lawrence decided to kill himself rather than shoot 19 of his fellow recruits. If I go to SHOT Show next year, I will ask R Lee Ermey if he chose the wrong method to diffuse that situation. Before you ask him your dumb ass question, keep in mind the Gunny didn't write the scene. |
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I have a book titled "The Few and the Proud," where they interviewed Ermey in one chapter. He basically said that the scene where Pvt. Pyle kills Hartman then himself is complete and total bullshit, and in real life, there's no way in hell that a recruit would have been able to smuggle ammo away from the range. He fought tooth and claw to get Kubrick to understand that there's no way something like that would happen, but in the end, that scene stayed. We discovered 4 rounds taped together while field dayin the barracks at the end of the range week. Could have been a recruit or the DI's fucking with us. Shit happens. |
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If he's willing to choke out my 6 year old what do you think he's going to do to you? http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff98/mailbcw/IMG_0091.jpg OK I can't stand the guy, but that right there is pure AWESOME! so who's the poser with the "MARINES" shirt? |
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What is it with kids in the service and celebreties? Man when I was in the service all I met were the Thunderbirds. Now service members are all the rage to be seen with. Check these photos of my son! http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/MCBallpeen/gunny20001.jpg http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/MCBallpeen/WWE_JOHN_CENA.jpg http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/MCBallpeen/WWE_CMPUNK.jpg My personal favorite! http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n119/MCBallpeen/anna_kournikova.jpg I asked him for a sword from Toledo, Spain. He got me one. If I had known that he was hanging out with Anna Kournikova, I would have told him to bring her home for me. aw man awesome! |
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CHOKE YOURSELF! Surely will be the response +1 this, beat me to it.... exactly what I was thiking.... |
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He might smack your face and ask you which side that was. No, but OP will get the opportunity to choke himself. I read that Kubrik originally had the "Easy, you just don't lead 'em so much!" guy slated to play the Gunnery Sgt. Hartman. http://i2.listal.com/image/1161533/500full.jpg Ermey was just a technical advisor at first, but ended up getting the part at the last minute. Thats right. Kubrik heard him reaming out some staff and said thas our DI. Some of the abusive dialog wasn't even scripted and was different in each take. Ermey was true walk on. |
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It's a movie man. There are these things called scripts that the actors follow and directors that tell them what to do. You mean GSgt Hartmans not dead, he's still alive? What about Pvt. Pyle? Along with those scripts they must use fake bullets. |
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Must be Gunny's favorite pose with kids, here he is with my son at the NRA convention in Louisville, KY. a few years back. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y6/theoxrojo/gunny1b2.jpg Obviously a young Pvt. Joker. |
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Some people need to be PT'ed until they DIE! PT'ed until their a$$ is sucking buttermilk!
Next thing someone is going to bring up is that the Nazi who shot Tom Hanks in Shaving Ryan's Privates was the same guy seen on the steps after knife fighting and killing the paratrooper. Where does it end, Toto? Where does it end? |
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Quoted: Some people need to be PT'ed until they DIE! PT'ed until their a$$ is sucking buttermilk! Next thing someone is going to bring up is that the Nazi who shot Tom Hanks in Shaving Ryan's Privates was the same guy seen on the steps after knife fighting and killing the paratrooper. Where does it end, Toto? Where does it end? |
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It's a movie man. There are these things called scripts that the actors follow and directors that tell them what to do. This. |
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R Lee Ermey is like the role he played, pure fiction. I wish HE would choke himself. Please, tell me more. I am seriously interested. |
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Get you candy-ass facts straight, boot - he was a SSGT, not a GySGT!! http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpn0nofCqI1qjy4dv.jpg Hartmann was GySGT. Ermey was SSGT, later received an honorary promotion to GySGT. TWO SECONDS! Dammit, now I feel like a douche. I knew Ermey was a SSGT and just moved that fact over to the movie. I hate being wrong Oh well, never saw a GySgt Senior Drill Instructor when I was in. Just Series Company GySgt. I had a SSGT Senior DI and I guess I am getting old. |
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Fuck no, I think Drill Instructors and Drill Sergeants should be just as hard on their recruits as he was in that movie.
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And Stanley Kubrick answers to no one. Too bad, because Kubrick's films are some of the most self-indulgant, meaningless, overrated pieces of cinematic crap out there. Look up colativelearning.com |
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It's a movie man. There are these things called scripts that the actors follow and directors that tell them what to do. I thought it was all real...so....movies are made up? |
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Fuck no, I think Drill Instructors and Drill Sergeants should be just as hard on their recruits as he was in that movie. This... |
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Thats right. Kubrik heard him reaming out some staff and said thas our DI. Some of the abusive dialog wasn't even scripted and was different in each take. Ermey was true walk on. That makes the best chemistry. |
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Quoted: Yeah cause the movie was real life. LMFAOIf I go to SHOT Show next year, I will ask R Lee Ermey if he chose the wrong method to diffuse that situation. |
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Upon finding out that one of his recruits has a possibly loaded weapon with an undetermined number of rounds, instead of trying to talk Recruit Lawrence into disarming himself, I would have calmly ordered Private Joker to clear out the squad bay and get him to call the MPs and an assistant Drill Instructor to keep order. He didn't do that and paid for it with his life. Luckily, Recruit Lawrence decided to kill himself rather than shoot 19 of his fellow recruits. If I go to SHOT Show next year, I will ask R Lee Ermey if he chose the wrong method to diffuse that situation. You realize someone else wrote the script? Take it up with Stanley Kubrick. And the Novel that the Script was based on.... "The Short Timers" By Gustav Hasford... take it up with him. Stanley had the final say-so what made it into the movie though. |
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i wish he would get the fuck off of earth and go to mars or something
i say this because he now sponsors tru-spec |
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Upon finding out that one of his recruits has a possibly loaded weapon with an undetermined number of rounds, instead of trying to talk Recruit Lawrence into disarming himself, I would have calmly ordered Private Joker to clear out the squad bay and get him to call the MPs and an assistant Drill Instructor to keep order. He didn't do that and paid for it with his life. Luckily, Recruit Lawrence decided to kill himself rather than shoot 19 of his fellow recruits. If I go to SHOT Show next year, I will ask R Lee Ermey if he chose the wrong method to diffuse that situation. I'd like to see that. Maybe you should post on YouTube. John |
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I have a book titled "The Few and the Proud," where they interviewed Ermey in one chapter. He basically said that the scene where Pvt. Pyle kills Hartman then himself is complete and total bullshit, and in real life, there's no way in hell that a recruit would have been able to smuggle ammo away from the range. He fought tooth and claw to get Kubrick to understand that there's no way something like that would happen, but in the end, that scene stayed. Trust me, if you WANT to get ammo, you will. And no, I am not talking about ammo from the range. |
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On topic I guess: Vincent D'Onofrio the actor who gained 70 lbs. to play Private Pyle in "Full Metal Jacket" sez we the people should ban "high capacity" magazines. Who is to say what hi-cap is???
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On topic I guess: Vincent D'Onofrio the actor who gained 70 lbs. to play Private Pyle in "Full Metal Jacket" sez we the people should ban "high capacity" magazines. Who is to say what hi-cap is??? That's ironic because Leonard only needed 2 rounds. |
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