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Posted: 7/4/2012 10:36:55 AM EDT

My Dad had this commemerative shell supposedly from my Dad's Uncle Caeser who served overseas in the US Army during WWI but who died in 1918 after the wars end returning to NY from the influenza outbreak.
I got this medal from the city honoring WWI vets among the items that were long lost but I recently recovered .
Link to my post of WWII pics my Dad took

The shell top is distored out of round, but measures ~77-80mm

Posted: 7/4/2012 10:38:41 AM EDT

[#1]

It is French. Probably a 75mm.

Posted: 7/4/2012 10:41:33 AM EDT

[#2]

Thanks . Any idea what the artilary piece would look like? Common shell or special use?

Posted: 7/4/2012 10:43:16 AM EDT

[#3]

I've seen WWI commemorative canisters and and actual de-mil projos embossed and engraved. Most are indeed French 75's.

Posted: 7/4/2012 10:44:04 AM EDT

[#4]

French 75mm Cannon

Posted: 7/4/2012 10:44:20 AM EDT

[#5]

Posted: 7/4/2012 10:47:39 AM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
Thanks . Any idea what the artilary piece would look like? Common shell or special use?

Probably common, most likely shrapnel or HE.

Posted: 7/4/2012 10:54:18 AM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:
It is French. Probably a 75mm.

Almost certainly. It was by far the most common on the Allied side.

Posted: 7/4/2012 10:56:19 AM EDT

[#8]

That is a nice piece of Trench Art

Posted: 7/4/2012 11:09:08 AM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
That is a nice piece of Trench Art

Thanks do you know anything else about 'trench art'? Are you saying soldiers engraved things themselves like schrimshaw?

Posted: 7/4/2012 11:11:54 AM EDT

[#10]

Soldiers did some of it, but a lot came from locals to sell to tourists after the war. Nice item either way.

Posted: 7/4/2012 11:16:45 AM EDT

[#11]

It's early trials of anti gun Micro Stamping

Posted: 7/4/2012 11:18:47 AM EDT

[#12]

Juni is German for June. French is Juin.

I am guessin a German shell.

Posted: 7/4/2012 11:20:39 AM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:

That is a nice piece of Trench Art

Thanks do you know anything else about 'trench art'? Are you saying soldiers engraved things themselves like schrimshaw?

I'm no expert, but there are some websites that are really resourceful and they can be really valuable

Posted: 7/4/2012 11:27:03 AM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:

Juni is German for June. French is Juin.

I am guessin a German shell.

The Battle of St Mihiel was a German loss to the Americans led by Gen Pershing

Posted: 7/4/2012 11:28:22 AM EDT

[#15]

Looks French

Posted: 7/4/2012 11:32:12 AM EDT

[#16]

Any other info on the markings on the bottom?

Posted: 7/4/2012 11:39:23 AM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
That is a nice piece of Trench Art

Thanks do you know anything else about 'trench art'? Are you saying soldiers engraved things themselves like schrimshaw?

It was fairly common practice, many were made into ash trays, some shaped into chalices...the things were plentiful, and let's face it, shit gets boring sometimes

Posted: 7/4/2012 11:45:48 AM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
Juni is German for June. French is Juin.

I am guessin a German shell.

Oh shit, didn't notice that. You are 100% correct.

German case.

Posted: 7/4/2012 11:53:26 AM EDT

[#19]

Probably a German 77mm shell

Posted: 7/4/2012 11:57:46 AM EDT

[#20]

Found this online:

http://ator1149.home.xs4all.nl/wfm/ww1/ammunition2.html

It's a Large Caliber Markings list from the Western Front Museum

Looks to be a 7,7 cm Feld Kanone 96

Fascinating!

Posted: 7/4/2012 12:08:19 PM EDT

[#21]

French 75

Posted: 7/4/2012 12:23:13 PM EDT

[#22]

Slight high jack

How about this.. I haven't cleaned the bottom but it says 90mm m12 m12b 1944. It weighs about 40 pounds and is hollow. I would guess a training round but for what. I thinking of painting it to look like a giant ballistic tip round. Yard sale find $10.

Posted: 7/4/2012 12:28:54 PM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
Slight high jack
How about this.. I haven't cleaned the bottom but it says 90mm m12 m12b 1944. It weighs about 40 pounds and is hollow. I would guess a training round but for what. I thinking of painting it to look like a giant ballistic tip round. Yard sale find $10.

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5214/dsc03737jo.jpg

M-26 Pershing is my guess.

Posted: 7/4/2012 12:31:49 PM EDT

[#24]

AWDr == Artillerie Werkstatt Dresden

Posted: 7/4/2012 12:45:22 PM EDT

[#25]

Juni is German and that's all I have concerning that. Cool piece! I have some trench art also

Have a good fourth!

ETA: Should have read a few more posts... Juni has already been discussed.

Posted: 7/4/2012 12:58:25 PM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:
Found this online:

http://ator1149.home.xs4all.nl/wfm/ww1/ammunition2.html

It's a Large Caliber Markings list from the Western Front Museum

Looks to be a 7,7 cm Feld Kanone 96

Fascinating!

Yup, so a german shell casing with Allied, either French or US, "trench art". It looks very similar to the French 75 though.

Posted: 7/4/2012 2:40:44 PM EDT

[#27]

Wow. Great work Guy's. This info then implies my Dad's uncle might have picked up the shell case after the battle as a souvenir. Then had it engraved to enhance the memory value for himself of family. He died before he got home. Makes me wonder what else he brought back.

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