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Posted: 6/25/2012 3:26:02 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 3:29:05 PM EDT
[#1]
It only took 7 years and a few billion to end what never should of began.
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 3:29:29 PM EDT
[#2]
8 years and 5 billion dollars too late.
 
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 3:29:50 PM EDT
[#3]



Quoted:


It only took 7 years and a few billion to end what never should of began.


DAMN! Beat.



 
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 3:31:23 PM EDT
[#4]
What, making something with thousands of sharp corners doesn't
blend in ????  Who'da thunk it ...
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 3:31:29 PM EDT
[#5]
Multicam BDUs next?

I might try to reenlist
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 3:33:54 PM EDT
[#6]
So what's replacing them?
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 3:37:24 PM EDT
[#7]



Quoted:


So what's replacing them?


Who knows. The Army issues Multicam to units rotating in to Afghanistan, but I doubt the Army will go that route for the same reason they didn't go with it to begin with [when it won the initial Army sponsored competition], the cost.



If anything, they'll probably keep the ACU's in the system until they finish wasting another few years and a few billion dollars on making another of their "own" patterns.



 
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 3:39:26 PM EDT
[#8]



I've got some old woodland cammies if you guys need it.


Link Posted: 6/25/2012 3:42:54 PM EDT
[#9]
Should have stuck with Khakis and Fatigues,(make one set in desert pink), for the Mid East.
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 3:51:51 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
What, making something with thousands of sharp corners doesn't
blend in ????  Who'da thunk it ...


It's not the type of pattern, it's the stupid fucking colour they picked.

CADPAT works pretty well


Link Posted: 6/25/2012 3:54:21 PM EDT
[#11]
Coming up with a pattern that is universally useless in every environment is not something that just happens.  It takes a dedicated bureaucracy that has carefully cultivated stupidity and honed failure to a razor edge.
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 3:55:55 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Coming up with a pattern that is universally useless in every environment is not something that just happens.  It takes a dedicated bureaucracy that has carefully cultivated stupidity and honed failure to a razor edge.




Spoken like a man who has been in the army.
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 4:01:51 PM EDT
[#13]
Great!  So now I'm going to have another pile of gear I can't turn in or use that's still on my clothing records sitting in my garage.
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 4:05:25 PM EDT
[#14]
They can always wear them during PT so they can ditch the vests and belts
 
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 4:05:56 PM EDT
[#15]
Maybe I'll buy some ACU for hunting in NE Texas!



I was issued woodland camo.
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 4:11:02 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Coming up with a pattern that is universally useless in every environment is not something that just happens.  It takes a dedicated bureaucracy that has carefully cultivated stupidity and honed failure to a razor edge.


See also: Navy camouflage. The genius that thought it would be a good idea to make sailors hard to see when they fall in the water, should be flogged, then keelhauled, flogged again, then hung from the nearest yardarm.  If you want to make a sailor hard to see, make their uniforms gray!
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 4:13:31 PM EDT
[#17]
ACUs are great in gaggles, much like zebra camouflage.
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 4:23:37 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
So what's replacing them?


I read this article couple of months back on Army Times, here's the link:

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2012/03/army-camo-4-replacement-options-weighed-031012w/
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 4:24:00 PM EDT
[#19]
They need to get some of Snake's metal gear nano skin shit going
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 4:24:15 PM EDT
[#20]
From the article:

the design was selected after the Marines had switched to an eye-catching pixel-driven pattern. "That's what this really comes down to," the editor of Soldier Systems Daily said. "'We can't allow the Marine Corps to look more cool than the Army.'"


Link Posted: 6/25/2012 4:27:09 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
So what's replacing them?


You have to bring your own.  probably Levi's Brand.  Maybe Wranglers, with cargo pockets.
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 4:27:45 PM EDT
[#22]
Are they stilling wearing those jaunty berets?
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 4:28:03 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
So what's replacing them?


You have to bring your own.  probably Levi's Brand.  Maybe Wranglers, with cargo pockets. CARHARTS
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 4:28:16 PM EDT
[#24]
Need to look at nature. People overthinking it?
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 4:30:06 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
See also: Navy camouflage. The genius that thought it would be a good idea to make sailors hard to see when they fall in the water, should be flogged, then keelhauled, flogged again, then hung from the nearest yardarm.  If you want to make a sailor hard to see, make their uniforms gray!


It was actually designed so you could hide from Chief...

Link Posted: 6/25/2012 4:31:20 PM EDT
[#26]




Quoted:

What, making something with thousands of sharp corners doesn't

blend in ???? Who'da thunk it ...


Yup....digital camo sucks





Link Posted: 6/25/2012 4:33:27 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Quoted:
So what's replacing them?


I read this article couple of months back on Army Times, here's the link:

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2012/03/army-camo-4-replacement-options-weighed-031012w/


haha, I remember when people were wetting themselves over the hyperstealth camo.
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 4:36:59 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Coming up with a pattern that is universally useless in every environment is not something that just happens.  It takes a dedicated bureaucracy that has carefully cultivated stupidity and honed failure to a razor edge.





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Link Posted: 6/25/2012 4:37:56 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Great!  So now I'm going to have another pile of gear I can't turn in or use that's still on my clothing records sitting in my garage.


The EE is thataway.  ––––->
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 4:38:14 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:

Quoted:
What, making something with thousands of sharp corners doesn't
blend in ???? Who'da thunk it ...

Yup....digital camo sucks

http://www.nh-global.com/blog/php/camouflage-aircraft.jpg


Stealth Starlifter FTW !!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 4:38:46 PM EDT
[#31]



Quoted:


What, making something with thousands of sharp corners doesn't

blend in ????  Who'da thunk it ...






k



 
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 5:17:36 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:

Quoted:
What, making something with thousands of sharp corners doesn't
blend in ????  Who'da thunk it ...



k
 


yup




Link Posted: 6/25/2012 5:19:28 PM EDT
[#33]
I'm quite happy that I never had to wear those damn ACU's.
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 5:19:31 PM EDT
[#34]
i'm gonna have a real hearty laugh if the army ends up back in woodlands
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 5:20:47 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Quoted:
See also: Navy camouflage. The genius that thought it would be a good idea to make sailors hard to see when they fall in the water, should be flogged, then keelhauled, flogged again, then hung from the nearest yardarm.  If you want to make a sailor hard to see, make their uniforms gray!


It was actually designed so you could hide from Chief...

http://i49.tinypic.com/2qks5k9.jpg




Man, that's classic!
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 5:24:48 PM EDT
[#36]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Coming up with a pattern that is universally useless in every environment is not something that just happens.  It takes a dedicated bureaucracy that has carefully cultivated stupidity and honed failure to a razor edge.




See also: Navy camouflage. The genius that thought it would be a good idea to make sailors hard to see when they fall in the water, should be flogged, then keelhauled, flogged again, then hung from the nearest yardarm.  If you want to make a sailor hard to see, make their uniforms gray!


I thought that was pretty stupid also. Why would you want to camo a sailor? Hide from what? Anything inbound

 
is coming for the ship, not the sailor.
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 5:27:34 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
i'm gonna have a real hearty laugh if the army ends up back in woodlands

I vote for the OG-107's
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 5:34:51 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Coming up with a pattern that is universally useless in every environment is not something that just happens.  It takes a dedicated bureaucracy that has carefully cultivated stupidity and honed failure to a razor edge.


See also: Navy camouflage. The genius that thought it would be a good idea to make sailors hard to see when they fall in the water, should be flogged, then keelhauled, flogged again, then hung from the nearest yardarm.  If you want to make a sailor hard to see, make their uniforms gray!

I thought that was pretty stupid also. Why would you want to camo a sailor? Hide from what? Anything inbound  
is coming for the ship, not the sailor.


He does his little turn on the catwalk, on the catwalk yeah the catwalk.
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 5:36:20 PM EDT
[#39]

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Link Posted: 6/25/2012 5:37:59 PM EDT
[#40]
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 5:38:19 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
See also: Navy camouflage. The genius that thought it would be a good idea to make sailors hard to see when they fall in the water, should be flogged, then keelhauled, flogged again, then hung from the nearest yardarm.  If you want to make a sailor hard to see, make their uniforms gray!


It was actually designed so you could hide from Chief...

http://i49.tinypic.com/2qks5k9.jpg




Man, that's classic!


That's good stuff!
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 5:39:02 PM EDT
[#42]
OP should read, 'Army Done With UCP'



UCP is the camo pattern

ACU is the uniform style

Link Posted: 6/25/2012 5:39:25 PM EDT
[#43]
So when is woodland coming back?

Link Posted: 6/25/2012 5:42:23 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
From the article:

the design was selected after the Marines had switched to an eye-catching pixel-driven pattern. "That's what this really comes down to," the editor of Soldier Systems Daily said. "'We can't allow the Marine Corps to look more cool than the Army.'"




It's not just that we look cooler, it's because we are.
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 5:46:43 PM EDT
[#45]


Hell, in that last pic with the four guys at the berm, you could have pretty much just issued them khaki uniforms and they would have blended in just fine.
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 5:47:07 PM EDT
[#46]
This guy used it pretty well, but that's about it.



ETA: Damn you fast bastards.
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 5:47:41 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
i'm gonna have a real hearty laugh if the army ends up back in woodlands


Mark my words, it will happen, but it will be slightly changed so somebody can save face.

Hell, they will probably keep the velcro, because we all know that's the most quiet way of getting something out of your pocket.
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 5:51:19 PM EDT
[#48]
Yesterday some Army cat walked up to one of my students and announced that he'd done a test of our camouflage, and that UCP worked much better.





I call shenanigans.




 
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 5:58:50 PM EDT
[#49]
this is the ADS entry for the new pattern:














 
Link Posted: 6/25/2012 6:15:24 PM EDT
[#50]






After several delays,
the Army has chosen four finalists in their Army Camouflage Improvement
Effort.  The Army conducted an exhaustive down select using a picture-in-picture technique
with 900 Soldiers viewing the patterns in 45 environments.  There was a
candidate pool of around 20 families of patterns each sharing common
pattern geometries but with individual colorways for Woodland, Desert,
and Transitional environments with a possible fourth pattern for
Organizational Clothing and Individual Equipment.  This optional OCIE
pattern would blend in with the other patterns so that separate sets of
PPE would not have to be purchased to match each pattern.  Some
developers satisfied this requirement with their Transitional pattern.  








http://soldiersystems.net/2012/01/10/army-announces-camouflage-improvement-effort-finalists/



They are using Navy AOR-2 and Marpat as a baseline.








 
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