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Posted: 6/23/2012 2:55:10 AM
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT “I was sitting in my living room texting on my phone and I heard somebody come in my back door. I didn't realize at the time what they were saying, but ultimately they were yelling out A-T-F, A-T-F.” Dominicos says she kept telling the three ATF agents this wasn't right. They told her they were searching for narcotics and asked if anyone else was home. She said her adult son was upstairs and that's when this story almost turned tragic. http://www.whec.com/news/stories/S2658110.shtml?cat=565 |
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LORD-eX-Bu
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Posted: 6/23/2012 3:35:06 AM
Isolated incident.
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SmilingBandit
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Posted: 6/23/2012 3:41:12 AM
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The important thing is that they tried really hard.
ETA: Apperantly somebody forgot to tell the Dominicos that they are mistaken. Dynamic entry teams are easily identified and work so fast that you wouldn't possibly be able to react. By pointing out these flaws the family obviously has some masturbatory fantasy about killing cops. |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 4:02:34 AM
Originally Posted By LORD-eX-Bu: Wide spread incident. FIFY |
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SmilingBandit
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Posted: 6/23/2012 4:05:20 AM
How could they make that mistake, how could they make that mistake?”
Easily. There's no negative consequences for the officers if they do. |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 4:27:08 AM
Originally Posted By SmilingBandit: How could they make that mistake, how could they make that mistake?” Easily. There's no negative consequences for the officers if they do. That's absurd. The cop who made the mistake has to buy beers for the whole team. The whole team.  |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 4:29:44 AM
ATF looking for narcotics?
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Qweevox
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Posted: 6/23/2012 4:34:46 AM
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Stop it. These are noble warriors in the War on Drugs. Their job is to fight against evil intoxication so they can earn salaries, retirement, and benefits. Maybe if we paid them more tax dollars they wouldn't be making these kinds of innocent mistakes. Besides, she probably was guilty of something. They cut her a brake.
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Posted: 6/23/2012 4:46:17 AM
[Last Edit: 6/23/2012 5:09:43 AM by scottedward58]
RPD has been full of fail for as long as I can remember. Between the "accidental" shootings, wrong house raids, drug use, and open abuse of power they sure have a winning department.
ETA: How could I forget the rapist cop that instead of firing and arresting they just let him transfer to a suburban department to continue assaulting women. ETA2: The cop caught stealing thousands in gas that was near retirement so they just let him retire. |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 5:01:28 AM
This bullshit needs to be made an instant fireable offense.
"Oh, but it's hard finding the right house in the dark! And sometimes the address is wonky or the number isn't clear!" Tough. Fucking. Shit. This isn't fucking tiddleywinks, you're fucking bursting into somebody's house in the middle of the night, guns drawn, acting in the name of the state. Either bust ass and make double sure you get everything right, or face the consequences. |
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1BMF
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Posted: 6/23/2012 5:02:53 AM
They "heard" him chamber a round and didn't open fire and then burn the house down?
They must be fresh out of the academy. |
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CLICKBANGBANG
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Posted: 6/23/2012 5:07:12 AM
This "oops" shit scares me. She couldn't identify what they were saying as they entered. If that would have happen to me, there would be bullets flying.
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Posted: 6/23/2012 5:24:58 AM
Originally Posted By Rogue-Sasquatch:
This bullshit needs to be made an instant fireable offense. "Oh, but it's hard finding the right house in the dark! And sometimes the address is wonky or the number isn't clear!" Tough. Fucking. Shit. This isn't fucking tiddleywinks, you're fucking bursting into somebody's house in the middle of the night, guns drawn, acting in the name of the state. Either bust ass and make double sure you get everything right, or face the consequences. You're funny you said consequences hahahahaha |
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lostnswv
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Posted: 6/23/2012 6:04:14 AM
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Maps and GPS apps should be required for this kind of work....
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Posted: 6/23/2012 6:09:13 AM
Don't mind me, I'm just along for the ride.
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Posted: 6/23/2012 6:18:30 AM
[Last Edit: 6/23/2012 6:19:28 AM by Colonel_Angus]
Whats a dinning room? Where you would make a lot of noise I suspect.
“I thought it was a family member pulling a joke on me. And all of the sudden I looked up and they were in my dinning room pointing a loaded gun at me telling me they had a federal warrant to search my premises.” dinning present participle of din (Verb) Verb: (of a fact) Be instilled in (someone) by constant repetition. Make a loud, unpleasant, and prolonged noise. |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 6:32:36 AM
Good police work! |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 6:35:31 AM
Originally Posted By Qweevox: Stop it. These are noble warriors in the War on Drugs. Their job is to fight against evil intoxication so they can earn salaries, retirement, and benefits. Maybe if we paid them more tax dollars they wouldn't be making these kinds of innocent mistakes. Besides, she probably was guilty of something. They cut her a brake. I know a couple of crack heads who strangled an old lady by putting a trash bag over her head during a burglary, are you willing to let them stay with you when they get paroled? I would be glad to give them your address if you want. |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 6:50:07 AM
ON the bright side. If the ATF is raiding your home it is not because they think you are a Mexican drug lord.
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lostnswv
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Posted: 6/23/2012 6:52:10 AM
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By Qweevox:
Stop it. These are noble warriors in the War on Drugs. Their job is to fight against evil intoxication so they can earn salaries, retirement, and benefits. Maybe if we paid them more tax dollars they wouldn't be making these kinds of innocent mistakes. Besides, she probably was guilty of something. They cut her a brake. I know a couple of crack heads who strangled an old lady by putting a trash bag over her head during a burglary, are you willing to let them stay with you when they get paroled? I would be glad to give them your address if you want. So that is the trade off in your world....either accept .gov thuggery in the form of half ass raids or criminal scum in the streets? |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 6:56:07 AM
Originally Posted By lostnswv: With the technology available today, there is no excuse for entering the wrong house.Maps and GPS apps should be required for this kind of work.... |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 7:32:11 AM
Originally Posted By AirRaceFan:
Originally Posted By lostnswv:
With the technology available today, there is no excuse for entering the wrong house.
Maps and GPS apps should be required for this kind of work.... Most department would use that dumbass cops are excuse enough.  At least the officers went home safe. |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 7:35:48 AM
Originally Posted By AirRaceFan:
Originally Posted By lostnswv:
With the technology available today, there is no excuse for entering the wrong house.
Maps and GPS apps should be required for this kind of work.... It's got nothing to do with technology. It's got to do with doing good police work, knowing how to do your job because you were properly trained and taking your responsibilities seriously. If all the GPS sattelites fell from the sky and every map on the planet was burned........even google maps shut down, there's absolutely no excuse for serving a warrant on the wrong house. That just means you are a dumb ass that has no business with law enforcement powers. I will tell you now.......you will NEVER see as incompetent a bunch douche nozzles as a group of federal agents on a mission. All the 3 letters agencies are filled with the most bumbling numb nuts for law enforcement officers you have ever met. Anytime we ever had to work with them it was a fucking soup sandwich. |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 7:48:09 AM
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Posted: 6/23/2012 7:54:54 AM
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By Qweevox:
Stop it. These are noble warriors in the War on Drugs. Their job is to fight against evil intoxication so they can earn salaries, retirement, and benefits. Maybe if we paid them more tax dollars they wouldn't be making these kinds of innocent mistakes. Besides, she probably was guilty of something. They cut her a brake. I know a couple of crack heads who strangled an old lady by putting a trash bag over her head during a burglary, are you willing to let them stay with you when they get paroled? I would be glad to give them your address if you want. Well you've been quite the melodramtic penguin these past couple weeks. |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 8:01:55 AM
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By Qweevox:
Stop it. These are noble warriors in the War on Drugs. Their job is to fight against evil intoxication so they can earn salaries, retirement, and benefits. Maybe if we paid them more tax dollars they wouldn't be making these kinds of innocent mistakes. Besides, she probably was guilty of something. They cut her a brake. I know a couple of crack heads who strangled an old lady by putting a trash bag over her head during a burglary, are you willing to let them stay with you when they get paroled? I would be glad to give them your address if you want. Wtf? Did you forget to log off or something? |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 8:04:36 AM
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This is an even better SWAT raid thread...appears the warrant is missing.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1335588_.html&page=1 |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 8:09:51 AM
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I know a couple of crack heads who strangled an old lady by putting a trash bag over her head during a burglary, are you willing to let them stay with you when they get paroled? I would be glad to give them your address if you want. ...sigh |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 8:21:15 AM
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ON the bright side. If the ATF is raiding your home it is not because they think you are a Mexican drug lord. On another bright side, they didn't shoot the son 71 times and leave him to bleed out for several hours. I mean, it IS impossible for someone in another part of the home to be confused about the identity and intentions of armed people forcing their way into the house unexpectedly. Right? |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 8:37:13 AM
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By Qweevox:
Stop it. These are noble warriors in the War on Drugs. Their job is to fight against evil intoxication so they can earn salaries, retirement, and benefits. Maybe if we paid them more tax dollars they wouldn't be making these kinds of innocent mistakes. Besides, she probably was guilty of something. They cut her a brake. I know a couple of crack heads who strangled an old lady by putting a trash bag over her head during a burglary, are you willing to let them stay with you when they get paroled? I would be glad to give them your address if you want. Cut him a BRAKE, man. |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 8:47:57 AM
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Originally Posted By Doc_Peck:
ON the bright side. If the ATF is raiding your home it is not because they think you are a Mexican drug lord. if I were a Mexican drug lord, they would be trying to sell me fucking guns......what are you talking about |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 8:49:21 AM
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Checking in..
Dog 1? Check Dog 2? Check We are all here. ETA.. oops.. Charlotte NY... Carry on. Isolated incident. |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 8:50:37 AM
Time to end the no knock search warrants ! It's also time to end the militarization of our police. I'm thinking it's time to pass a nationwide law like the one Indiana recently passed.
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Posted: 6/23/2012 9:00:37 AM
What is really interesting is that we see this happening over and over again.
Apparently no lessons are ever learned. |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 9:05:40 AM
Originally Posted By MrSilverLining: Originally Posted By Aimless: Originally Posted By Qweevox: Stop it. These are noble warriors in the War on Drugs. Their job is to fight against evil intoxication so they can earn salaries, retirement, and benefits. Maybe if we paid them more tax dollars they wouldn't be making these kinds of innocent mistakes. Besides, she probably was guilty of something. They cut her a brake. I know a couple of crack heads who strangled an old lady by putting a trash bag over her head during a burglary, are you willing to let them stay with you when they get paroled? I would be glad to give them your address if you want. Cut him a BRAKE, man.  |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 9:08:50 AM
Originally Posted By lostnswv: Originally Posted By Aimless: Originally Posted By Qweevox: Stop it. These are noble warriors in the War on Drugs. Their job is to fight against evil intoxication so they can earn salaries, retirement, and benefits. Maybe if we paid them more tax dollars they wouldn't be making these kinds of innocent mistakes. Besides, she probably was guilty of something. They cut her a brake. I know a couple of crack heads who strangled an old lady by putting a trash bag over her head during a burglary, are you willing to let them stay with you when they get paroled? I would be glad to give them your address if you want. So that is the trade off in your world....either accept .gov thuggery in the form of half ass raids or criminal scum in the streets? Right, there is no medium ground between incompetent police raiding the wrong house and the paulbot/liberal legalization of all drugs. |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 9:10:02 AM
Originally Posted By SirSqueeboo: This is an even better SWAT raid thread...appears the warrant is missing. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1335588_.html&page=1 I was told in another thread that the right fails by not being as equally HISTRIONIC OHMIGOD as the left 
ps seriously drugs are bad, only an idiot wants all this stuff legalized. |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 9:15:17 AM
Originally Posted By LORD-eX-Bu:
Isolated incident. for sure 1st I hear about something like this going down in all honesty this is getting really old the oh shit we made a mistake it is the wrong house |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 9:40:35 AM
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How could they make that mistake, how could they make that mistake?”
Easily. There's no negative consequences for the officers if they do. *ding-ding-ding* Johnny, tell him what he won!" I'm glad nobody got hurt or killed, but like the reporter said, it could've easily gotten deadly; the agents could've unlooaded on the guy and then the :"Oops! My bad" part would come and the agents would not be punished and the poor lady would be son-less... These guys need to do better intel before they come chanrging full-steam into a house; already many epopel have had their doors broken into, dogs shot dead and even family members shot and killed because they made a wrong turn at the rundabout or forgot it was "123 Main Street" and not "123 Dumbass Lane". I'm an LEO myself, and it amazes me that these people don;t take 15 minutes of their busy lives to check AND double-check the target address before they go in - that would save them a lot of "Oops! My Bad!" and the victims a lot of unneccesary pain and grief. Seriously? ATF get paid far more than me and they don;t even bother to check the address? SOrry! I keep forgetting that "Common Sense" and "Feds" doesn't compute sometimes. |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 9:46:16 AM
Maybe they should only hire pizza delivery drivers.
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Posted: 6/23/2012 9:51:11 AM
Pre-raid surveillance is for suckers.
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Posted: 6/23/2012 9:57:12 AM
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Maybe they should only hire pizza delivery drivers. |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 10:05:29 AM
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Reminds me when local SWAT 'took down' a drug dealer's house and caught an elderly grandma in her eighties trying to escape with her walker. They threw her on her bed and handcuffed her before finding out it was the house next door they were supposed to hit. They came back the next day and patched up her ruined door. The assistant chief said "We also apologized and brought her some tamales, what more does she want?"
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Posted: 6/23/2012 10:10:42 AM
What judge signed the search warrant?
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Posted: 6/23/2012 10:11:24 AM
Originally Posted By lostnswv:
Maps and GPS apps should be required for this kind of work.... GPS will triple the wrong address raids, guaranteed. |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 10:12:30 AM
I hope no one's alligator got shot!
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Posted: 6/23/2012 10:12:31 AM
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What judge signed the search warrant? What address was on the signed search warrant? Why is the BATFE doing drug raids? |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 10:14:15 AM
Originally Posted By itsARanchrifle:
Originally Posted By garwj:
Maybe they should only hire pizza delivery drivers. Since they don't deliver out into the county, they wouldn't know where they were going and would have to ask me for directions |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 10:15:03 AM
Originally Posted By Berserkr556:
Time to end the no knock search warrants ! It's also time to end the militarization of our police. I'm thinking it's time to pass a nationwide law like the one Indiana recently passed. This wasn't a no knock warrant and most warrants are not no knocks. There are two classes of warrant, the no knock which has a higher standard and a knock and announce. The no knock is meant for dangerous warrants where surprise is necessary, the knock and announce was supposed to give people a chance to comply but instead they have been turned into virtual no knocks by just breaking the door down as they pound on the wall and shout police but without all that pesky judicial scrutiny that goes with a no knock warrant. They may not be violating the letter of the law by doing this but they sure are violating the spirit of it otherwise why would they have ever created the two distinct classes of warrant. |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 10:22:51 AM
Originally Posted By CLICKBANGBANG:
This "oops" shit scares me. She couldn't identify what they were saying as they entered. If that would have happen to me, there would be bullets flying. If you survive it would be up to a jury to decide if you go to jail. And frankly to many people who sit on juries that think law enforcement are almost never wrong. |
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Posted: 6/23/2012 10:24:45 AM
Originally Posted By jaholder1971:
Originally Posted By lostnswv:
Maps and GPS apps should be required for this kind of work.... GPS will triple the wrong address raids, guaranteed. Initial driveby, house photos and notating distinct features of the property to be required to be verified by swat team should be mandatory. Person who initiated the warrant process should be on site and culpable if raid is not done at the proper address. Easy to do, cheap, and I'd bet 99% of the "wrong house" crap would stop overnight. |
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