Stephen_A Member Team Member Joined: Dec 2008  OH, USA Posts: 1039 Feedback: 0% (0)	Posted: 6/23/2012 1:49:21 AM THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT Let's make it simple, are they worth a shit or not?
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CBottoms Member Joined: Jul 2011  USA Posts: 192 Feedback: 100% (4) Link To This Post	Posted: 6/23/2012 1:50:52 AM Simply, try a search. I guarantee this question is asked weekly.
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oldschool63 No Beans in Chili Team Member Joined: Oct 2006  TX, USA Posts: 18891 Feedback: 100% (18) Link To This Post	Posted: 6/23/2012 1:52:23 AM if your stock pins are not coming out no you do not need them
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an_hero Member Joined: Dec 2008  AL, USA Posts: 3098 Feedback: 100% (31) Link To This Post	Posted: 6/23/2012 1:52:37 AM They're a dumb gimmick.
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Vault_Boy Member Team Member Joined: Jun 2011  CO, USA Posts: 1220 Feedback: 100% (10) Link To This Post	Posted: 6/23/2012 1:53:04 AM If you have a RR M16 I'd say they're cheap insurance. Otherwise pretty much useless on 99.999% of the ARs out there.
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Cytic Member Team Member Joined: Sep 2006  VA, USA Posts: 594 Feedback: 100% (2) Link To This Post	Posted: 6/23/2012 1:53:33 AM I bought them for my SBR build because they look cool. I do not think I will ever shoot enough to really need them.
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Kilroytheknifesnob Member Team Member Joined: Sep 2011  BHS Posts: 1954 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 6/23/2012 1:54:57 AM Pointless, but look cool.
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EFB16ACRX Member Life Member Joined: Aug 2007  VA, USA Posts: 12541 Feedback: 100% (8) Link To This Post	Posted: 6/23/2012 1:55:05 AM I have a set but I don't know where they are. Geissele pins don't walk.
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Stephen_A Member Team Member Joined: Dec 2008  OH, USA Posts: 1041 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 6/23/2012 1:58:31 AM [Last Edit: 6/23/2012 6:28:33 AM by The_Beer_Slayer] coc
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beequewl Member Joined: Oct 2008  USA Posts: 2290 Feedback: 100% (9) Link To This Post	Posted: 6/23/2012 1:59:47 AM Pins on my wifes 1988 colt used to walk out. Got some for hers. Rest of my stable doesn't need them so they don't have 'em. Just my .02
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cedjunior Member Joined: Feb 2009  TX, USA Posts: 7016 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 6/23/2012 2:14:27 AM They let everyone know how serious you are when you post pics of your rifle on the internet. If you don't have them, good luck being considered Tier 1.
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Posted: 6/23/2012 2:16:54 AM [Last Edit: 6/23/2012 2:18:03 AM by Forgetfull] I bought some trying to crack down on some trigger pin wobble. Didn't really work. IMO I won't spend the 15-25 bucks again. regular pins are fine (for my guns which are play guns or low round HD guns) unless your really need them. But seriously OP do a archive or regular search in the AR forums. 1 thread a week for years about them.

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Nutro Member Team Member Joined: Jul 2007  TX, USA Posts: 6394 Feedback: 100% (220) Link To This Post	Posted: 6/23/2012 2:16:56 AM Originally Posted By cedjunior: They let everyone know how serious you are when you post pics of your rifle on the internet. If you don't have them, good luck being considered Tier 1. Meh, fuck tier 1. I have them on my rifles because I like the look. I don't even own tactical pants!
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Stephen_A Member Team Member Joined: Dec 2008  OH, USA Posts: 1043 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 6/23/2012 2:20:25 AM [Last Edit: 6/23/2012 2:20:45 AM by Stephen_A] Originally Posted By cedjunior: They let everyone know how serious you are when you post pics of your rifle on the internet. If you don't have them, good luck being considered Tier 1. I don't know who "they" are but I get your point. Thanks.
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Posted: 6/23/2012 2:25:12 AM [Last Edit: 6/23/2012 2:25:42 AM by Stephen_A] Originally Posted By Nutro: Originally Posted By cedjunior: They let everyone know how serious you are when you post pics of your rifle on the internet. If you don't have them, good luck being considered Tier 1. Meh, fuck tier 1. I have them on my rifles because I like the look. I don't even own tactical pants! Amen brother. There is nothing wrong with an aesthetically looking AR. I just wanted the low down.

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FluffyTheCat Member Team Member Joined: Feb 2010  AB, CAN Posts: 2667 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 6/23/2012 5:53:12 AM If you build your own lower receiver, KNS pins are probably a good idea. A home built receiver may not be properly anodized and the pins would help the receiver holes from wearing. A home built receiver might also have fire control holes that are slightly oversized and KNS pins might help in this situation also.
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Posted: 6/23/2012 6:02:49 AM [Last Edit: 6/23/2012 6:05:33 AM by glklvr] Originally Posted By Stephen_A: Originally Posted By Nutro: Originally Posted By cedjunior: They let everyone know how serious you are when you post pics of your rifle on the internet. If you don't have them, good luck being considered Tier 1. Meh, fuck tier 1. I have them on my rifles because I like the look. I don't even own tactical pants! Amen brother. There is nothing wrong with an aesthetically looking AR. I just wanted the low down. Basically this: If you just have a regular run-of-the-mill lower, they aren't worth it. If you have a lower that is difficult, if not impossible to replace (homemade, registered machine gun, possibly an SBR) they are. They keep the pins from rotating with the trigger, hammer and auto-sear (on machine guns), theoretically reducing wear on the pin holes. There are also people who will tell you they make the trigger pull more consistent on precision guns.

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Patriot556 Member Team Member Joined: Jan 2012  MI, USA Posts: 25 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 6/23/2012 6:06:51 AM KNS pins needed for your AR?, probably not. I installed a set on all my AR's since 2008. Never a problem with them...just like the look.
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Blaculo Chicken Pickin' Team Member Joined: Aug 2005  USA Posts: 2303 Feedback: 100% (50) Link To This Post	Posted: 6/23/2012 6:42:36 AM They can reduce pin breakage in 9mm and .22LR variants.
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Doc_Peck Member Team Member Joined: Aug 2009  MD, USA Posts: 1526 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 6/23/2012 6:48:12 AM I figured for the cost, and possible benefit it was a decent investment. I've spent money on dumber shit
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Darkstar117 Ipsa Scientia Potestas Est Team Member Joined: Oct 2004  NV, USA Posts: 10228 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 6/23/2012 6:49:31 AM Originally Posted By Blaculo: They can reduce pin breakage in 9mm and .22LR variants. Yep. Put a set on my 9mm AR after I broke a hammer pin.
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rob78 Professional Hobbyist Team Member Joined: Mar 2005  TN, USA Posts: 20589 Feedback: 100% (13) Link To This Post	Posted: 6/23/2012 7:14:10 AM They're great if you have "en bloc" triggers in your lowers. CMC triggers for example come with new pins and c-clips. KNS pins eliminate the c-clips while still retaining the FCG pins.
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