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Posted: 6/22/2012 4:16:36 PM
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That's not an Alaskan Copper and Brass truck by any chance, is it?


No, but I personally do a crap load of business with them. ETA: Them as in Alaskan.


My dad has managed their Portland office for almost 40 years now.. I would have been happy to clue him in to that kind of BS.
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Posted: 6/22/2012 4:19:44 PM
Is your dad the manager that goes around to butter up the larger customers? Probably the sales mgr that does that...

We get visits from that guy all the time. I have some cool Alskan swag
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Posted: 6/22/2012 4:37:47 PM
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Does that camera take pics of your wife too?


Yes, but the pics it took of your wife turned out better.


that's cold man, just cold, but funny as hell
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Posted: 6/22/2012 4:44:11 PM
Originally Posted By DcN484:
Is your dad the manager that goes around to butter up the larger customers? Probably the sales mgr that does that...

We get visits from that guy all the time. I have some cool Alskan swag


Yeah, that would be sales.. my dad is the office/site manager. As for the Alaskan swag.. welcome to my experience growing up. I think I have an entire camping loadout of just Alaskan branded gear

Sorry to hijack your thread. My personal opinion is that you should drop a dime to the company and get the ball rolling. Even if it doesn't go anywhere internally, you know you did something. If you still see her do it later on, get DOT involved.
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Posted: 6/22/2012 4:45:51 PM
It's a large woman driver

Is there another kind of female truck driver I don't know about?
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Posted: 6/22/2012 5:05:05 PM
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Most of the company trucks these days have the safe driving statements on them. I believe MYOB does not apply because the person who pays the salary asks for you to NOT MYOB. Kind of like the whole," if the cashier doesn't give you a receipt, we want to know, your meal will be free."

Get a little bit clearer picture and call it in.


MYOB would NEVER apply on a public roadway.

A year and a half ago a co-worker of mine was rear-ended by a semi while he was stopped at a traffic light. The force of the collision pushed his SUV 500 feet from the point of impact. I was at work when we got the call from the hospital trying to contact his relatives. The nurse was FRANTIC on the phone. They couldn't find his wallet and the only reason they called us was because of his uniform shirt he was wearing had the company name on it. They were transferring him by helicopter to a larger hospital with a better trauma center. Unfortunately he died a week later, on Thanksgiving day. Nicest guy you would ever want to meet.

The point of the above story is that since that day I NEVER give truckers the benefit of the doubt. I have called the police and company hot-lines dozens of times since then. If I see anything illegal or questionable, they are getting reported. Running red lights, dangerous speeding, tires going over the white lines, throwing stuff (piss bottles) out of windows, I've reported them all.
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Posted: 6/22/2012 5:13:12 PM
Damn. I was expecting I-40 from Amarillo to Flagstaff or something. A dangerous two-lane road is nuts. I'd get a better shot and call it in.

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Posted: 6/22/2012 5:36:30 PM
Originally Posted By MMcCall:
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Is your dad the manager that goes around to butter up the larger customers? Probably the sales mgr that does that...

We get visits from that guy all the time. I have some cool Alskan swag


Yeah, that would be sales.. my dad is the office/site manager. As for the Alaskan swag.. welcome to my experience growing up. I think I have an entire camping loadout of just Alaskan branded gear

Sorry to hijack your thread. My personal opinion is that you should drop a dime to the company and get the ball rolling. Even if it doesn't go anywhere internally, you know you did something. If you still see her do it later on, get DOT involved.


Love the swag!

I like their scribble pads better than the other material supplier ones

Tell your dad that lately (the past 6 mos) West Coast Metals has been way lower on Stainless pricing
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Posted: 6/22/2012 5:37:40 PM
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It's a large woman driver

Is there another kind of female truck driver I don't know about?


lmao!
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Posted: 6/22/2012 5:50:32 PM
Call WSP and the company. They can sort it out.
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Pick from either of these gems I gleaned from the Arizona Revised Statutes. If any AZ LEO's care to chime in with more specifics feel free.


http://www.azleg.state.az.us/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/13/01602.htm&Title=13&DocType=ARS
13-1602. Criminal damage; classification
A. A person commits criminal damage by recklessly:
1. Defacing or damaging property of another person; or
2. Tampering with property of another person so as substantially to impair its function or value;

http://www.azleg.state.az.us/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/ars/13/01201.htm&Title=13&DocType=ARS
13-1201. Endangerment; classification
A. A person commits endangerment by recklessly endangering another person with a substantial risk of imminent death or physical injury.
B. Endangerment involving a substantial risk of imminent death is a class 6 felony. In all other cases, it is a class 1 misdemeanor.
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Posted: 6/22/2012 6:31:39 PM
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Good call, scare the shit out the the driver and cause a wreck. You're awesome.
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Wow,that is a bad idea.
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Well lets see who is the better artist, Hippy.


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Posted: 6/22/2012 6:39:08 PM
I think you should wait until they kill someone, then call the news and tell them you saw them doing this for like a year.

Call the company and be honest with them. Tell them you aren't trying to get anyone in trouble but it sure looks like they are not driving with their full attention. Those big trucks can cause a massive amount of hurt in a blink of an eye.
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Posted: 6/22/2012 6:53:43 PM
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I think you should wait until they kill someone, then call the news and tell them you saw them doing this for like a year.

Call the company and be honest with them. Tell them you aren't trying to get anyone in trouble but it sure looks like they are not driving with their full attention. Those big trucks can cause a massive amount of hurt in a blink of an eye.


You can be damn sure it's going to be the company that gets sued, not the driver, if there's huge fatal wreck. I'm willing to bet they pay attention.
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Posted: 6/22/2012 7:11:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Sierra5:
I think you should wait until they kill someone, then call the news and tell them you saw them doing this for like a year.

Call the company and be honest with them. Tell them you aren't trying to get anyone in trouble but it sure looks like they are not driving with their full attention. Those big trucks can cause a massive amount of hurt in a blink of an eye.


You can be damn sure it's going to be the company that gets sued, not the driver, if there's huge fatal wreck. I'm willing to bet they pay attention.


Fuck yeah they will.

There was one a while back in another state where the truck driver was elderly and texting, killed a family in a minivan that he blasted from behind. Just takes a second.
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Posted: 6/23/2012 5:58:42 AM
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Wow,that is a bad idea.


I agree, illegal and seriously dangerous also.

Next time anyone is on I5 in Cali watch the truckers as you pass them (they can only go 55) everyone of them is reading a book or something.
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Posted: 6/23/2012 6:07:46 AM
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I commute ~90 miles on one of the most dangerous stretches of 2-lane highway in the state of Washington.

Every single morning, I pass the same trucker going the opposite direction. Every morning, she is holding up some sort of device just above the steering wheel. It looks bigger than a typical phone, but smaller than an ipad. If I had to guess, it's a larger phone of some kind. She holds it up in front of her face while she is driving ~60mph on this very dangerous stretch of road. It's a large woman driver, and she drives for a fairly well known company.

I commute with my wife. We both witness this every morning, and we can both CLEARLY see that she is doing this. The photo I have isn't the most clear, but when you see it in person, it's very obvious. My wife took the photo, leaning over.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc257/david448/temp/0622120825.jpg

I've debated on whether or not to contact the company, or the authorities. I figured it would be best to wait until I had decent proof. This was the first attempt at a photo, and unfortunately it's not the best.

Use this photo and contact the company or authorities?
Wait for a better photo, then contact?
Mind my own business and hope that this negligent woman doesn't kill both of my kids' parents in one swipe?



Mind your own fucking business if you're just guessing


Sounds like op struck a nerve. Afraid your GD surfing while driving will come out?
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Posted: 6/23/2012 6:33:21 AM
You know, If after all this time, You and her and all the people
around you are still alive, WTF are you worried about?
Get a life and MYOB. She obviously is very adept at
multitasking. Unlike most of the four-wheeler pilots out here.

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Posted: 6/23/2012 6:37:06 AM
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You know, If after all this time, You and her and all the people
around you are still alive, WTF are you worried about?
Get a life and MYOB. She obviously is very adept at
multitasking. Unlike most of the four-wheeler pilots out here.

ED


If she is behind the wheel of a vehicle that big, her attention needs to be on the road.
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Posted: 6/23/2012 6:40:18 AM
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You know, If after all this time, You and her and all the people
around you are still alive, WTF are you worried about?
Get a life and MYOB. She obviously is very adept at
multitasking. Unlike most of the four-wheeler pilots out here.

ED


If she is behind the wheel of a vehicle that big, her attention needs to be on the road.


Absorb what I wrote.

ED

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Posted: 6/23/2012 6:43:55 AM
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Originally Posted By EchoDelta556:
You know, If after all this time, You and her and all the people
around you are still alive, WTF are you worried about?
Get a life and MYOB. She obviously is very adept at
multitasking. Unlike most of the four-wheeler pilots out here.

ED


If she is behind the wheel of a vehicle that big, her attention needs to be on the road.


Absorb what I wrote.

ED



So she has been lucky so far. Doesn't make her actions correct.
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Posted: 6/23/2012 6:46:31 AM
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Originally Posted By tc556guy:
Originally Posted By EchoDelta556:
You know, If after all this time, You and her and all the people
around you are still alive, WTF are you worried about?
Get a life and MYOB. She obviously is very adept at
multitasking. Unlike most of the four-wheeler pilots out here.

ED


If she is behind the wheel of a vehicle that big, her attention needs to be on the road.


Absorb what I wrote.

ED



So she has been lucky so far. Doesn't make her actions correct.


Not only her, But everyone around her.

ED

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Posted: 6/23/2012 6:51:30 AM
Originally Posted By EchoDelta556:
You know, If after all this time, You and her and all the people
around you are still alive, WTF are you worried about?
Get a life and MYOB. She obviously is very adept at
multitasking. Unlike most of the four-wheeler pilots out here.

ED


If he just saw her once this would be a totally different story but he sees this constantly implying that she isn't just doing some quick task like glancing at a short text or checking the time. She is paying attention to the device far too much if every time he sees her she is on it. I'm with the op. He should get better evidence then take it to the company.
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At what point are we "concerned citizens"
or "rats" doing our overlords work for them?

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Use of any handheld device for CDL holders has been illegal since Jan 1st I believe,it's a big fine so I don't even take a chance.

I don't even look at my DIAD while driving.

Would I turn in a fellow CDL,no it's not my job to do police work,just like it's not a cops job to do my deliveries and pickups..It should be illegal for EVERYONE to use a hand held device while driving.The amount of stupidity I see people do while talking or texting everyday amazes me.
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Posted: 6/23/2012 7:33:26 AM
Originally Posted By EchoDelta556:
You know, If after all this time, You and her and all the people
around you are still alive, WTF are you worried about?
Get a life and MYOB. She obviously is very adept at
multitasking. Unlike most of the four-wheeler pilots out here.

Something written that straight needs a smilie or obvious hyperbole, otherwise people are going to take you literally.

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New DOT laws are-2500 fine for the driver, 10000 for the company. I guarantee you she is violating company
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Posted: 6/23/2012 8:16:14 AM
Call it in, tell them exactly what you are seeing and for how long you have noticed it going on. Get the truck number off of the side of the truck. You can go here to get a phone number.
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Where's all the Libertarians at to say MYOB and just sue them if they harm you and your family?
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I'd just call it in.

Even if you don't have proof it can serve as a warning shot to her to
correct her behavior


I'd go with this. They may not be able to say "hey so and so this video clearly shows you watching a movie/reading/screwing with something" but they could at least go to her and say "hey we got a call from someone that says he's seen you driving distracted several times. But hey, you know the rules, right?"
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Originally Posted By Bat-Masterson:
Originally Posted By DcN484:
I commute ~90 miles on one of the most dangerous stretches of 2-lane highway in the state of Washington.

Every single morning, I pass the same trucker going the opposite direction. Every morning, she is holding up some sort of device just above the steering wheel. It looks bigger than a typical phone, but smaller than an ipad. If I had to guess, it's a larger phone of some kind. She holds it up in front of her face while she is driving ~60mph on this very dangerous stretch of road. It's a large woman driver, and she drives for a fairly well known company.

I commute with my wife. We both witness this every morning, and we can both CLEARLY see that she is doing this. The photo I have isn't the most clear, but when you see it in person, it's very obvious. My wife took the photo, leaning over.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc257/david448/temp/0622120825.jpg

I've debated on whether or not to contact the company, or the authorities. I figured it would be best to wait until I had decent proof. This was the first attempt at a photo, and unfortunately it's not the best.

Use this photo and contact the company or authorities?
Wait for a better photo, then contact?
Mind my own business and hope that this negligent woman doesn't kill both of my kids' parents in one swipe?



Mind your own fucking business if you're just guessing



No doubt, and I'm usually against the MYOB crowd. You seem to have real disdain for this fat woman driver and the way you over dramatize your emotion filled post and the fact that your only proof is one picture that nobody can see what your seeing. Seriously your all butt hurt and are here looking for support with your proof and this is all you have? I have feeling your one of those who likes to make mountains out of a mole hills.


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You should not be on the road. Your a hazard to those around you. You need real help.

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The new CSA laws that were passed back in 2010 make it illegal for any DOT truck driver to use an electronic device while driving. The TSA will fine the driver and then the company triple what they fined the driver if she is caught by dot. She is breaking federal law by doing this. I would call the company and let them know, as most companies now have no tolerance policies for using phones with out hand held devices, or no phones at all.
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you debated calling???
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Originally Posted By Texas_Infidel:
Originally Posted By Bat-Masterson:
Originally Posted By DcN484:
I commute ~90 miles on one of the most dangerous stretches of 2-lane highway in the state of Washington.

Every single morning, I pass the same trucker going the opposite direction. Every morning, she is holding up some sort of device just above the steering wheel. It looks bigger than a typical phone, but smaller than an ipad. If I had to guess, it's a larger phone of some kind. She holds it up in front of her face while she is driving ~60mph on this very dangerous stretch of road. It's a large woman driver, and she drives for a fairly well known company.

I commute with my wife. We both witness this every morning, and we can both CLEARLY see that she is doing this. The photo I have isn't the most clear, but when you see it in person, it's very obvious. My wife took the photo, leaning over.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc257/david448/temp/0622120825.jpg

I've debated on whether or not to contact the company, or the authorities. I figured it would be best to wait until I had decent proof. This was the first attempt at a photo, and unfortunately it's not the best.

Use this photo and contact the company or authorities?
Wait for a better photo, then contact?
Mind my own business and hope that this negligent woman doesn't kill both of my kids' parents in one swipe?



Mind your own fucking business if you're just guessing



No doubt, and I'm usually against the MYOB crowd. You seem to have real disdain for this fat woman driver and the way you over dramatize your emotion filled post and the fact that your only proof is one picture that nobody can see what your seeing. Seriously your all butt hurt and are here looking for support with your proof and this is all you have? I have feeling your one of those who likes to make mountains out of a mole hills.





How would you feel if someone shot a bullet close to your head every day? What is the big deal? They haven't hit you? Be sure not to make a big deal out of nothing.

Proof is not an issue. I have 5 people who have witnessed this. Support is not an issue either. I don't come on the internet for support.
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Call it in, tell them exactly what you are seeing and for how long you have noticed it going on. Get the truck number off of the side of the truck. You can go here to get a phone number.
http://ai.fmcsa.dot.gov/SMS/Data/Search.aspx


Thanks for the link. I found the company in there. It seems they don't have a very good safety record at all compared to the others. They have several dings under "Unsafe driving".

I will be calling when I get back home in a few days.
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Call the WA state hwy patrol, they enforce DOT laws.

That's BS behaviour while driving a commercial vehicle.
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