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Posted: 6/21/2012 5:20:53 PM
he's a faggot and Metallica sucks. they haven't done anything worth a shit since the black album
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Black-Tiger
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Posted: 6/21/2012 5:26:51 PM
As much of a Metallica fan that I am; James is not the best guitar frontman ever...
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Posted: 6/21/2012 5:33:16 PM
Myles Kennedy of Alter Bridge and Slash is a talent on the guitar and his vocal ability is one of best in the business.
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Posted: 6/21/2012 5:35:05 PM
Originally Posted By DangerJ: Originally Posted By jonny762: Billy Corgan comes to mind, though his music won't appeal to most of the hive. The guy wrote and recorded Siamese Dream almost entirely by himself (sans drums), and pretty much wrote, composed, and played most of the Pumpkins' material. Very underrated - but, he's pretty boring to watch, so it may be a wash. Applicable to Hetfield pre-Black Album. Interesting, and cool. I witnessed and loved Metallica during the Ride the Lightning era, but I never knew that. It's tough for me to pick the best frontman/player, because the two are generally mutually exclusive. All the truly legendary frontmen I can think of were untethered –– it was just about great presence. I'll be at Iron Maiden/Alice Cooper Jul 18 in Detroit, on that note.  |
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Posted: 6/21/2012 5:35:56 PM
Originally Posted By bcw107:
http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff98/mailbcw/gimme-fue-gimme-fai.jpg Chortling like a madman over here... OP: He's solid as a metal front man who plays guitar as well, but nowhere near the best. |
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Posted: 6/21/2012 5:38:07 PM
Originally Posted By FRCA_WY:
Originally Posted By NordicRX8:
Joe Satriani /thread Since when was Joe a front man? Last I heard Sammy Hagar was doing it in Chickenfoot. Speaking of Sammy,there is another great one,although he didn't play guitar all the time. Paul Stanley from KISS is another that hasn't been mentioned. There are a lot to choose from,depending on what type of music you like. Also with the exception of "Big Bad Moon" and "Phone Call", Joe should never be allowed a microphone. Just rock the guitar, dude. (and I LOVE Satriani - I have everything he's produced... But singing is not his strong suit) |
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Posted: 6/21/2012 5:49:58 PM
Originally Posted By sydney7629: Sorry, but this guy could play rings around James Hetfield http://img.karaoke-lyrics.net/img/artists/15139/dire-straits-227758.png He's certainly a better singer, songwriter, and smoother player with tone. |
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Posted: 6/21/2012 5:52:24 PM
Originally Posted By Bassgasm:
This guy beats 87% of the suggestions in this thread, including OP's. SDMF! Much love for ZW |
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Posted: 6/21/2012 6:08:16 PM
OP............Hetfield is what is called a "rhythm guitarits" in a band. Quoted definition a rhythm guitarits is to provide all or part of the rhythmic pulse in conjunction with singers or other instruments; and to provide all or part of the harmony, i.e. the chords, where a chord is a group of notes played together. Therefore, the basic technique of rhythm guitar is to hold down a series of chords with the fretting hand while strumming rhythmically with the other hand. More developed rhythm techniques include arpeggios, damping, riffs, chord solos, and complex strums.
This is the role he fills with Kirk which is obvious and he is not a lead guitarist. While James is a great musician and has a great voice he is not (IMHO) the greatest guitar frontman ever. James unfortunately in his career has not matched the charisma, presence and lead guitar work of Jimmy Page, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Jimmi Hendrix, David Gillmore, Warren Haynes and many many others that I may have overlooked. |
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Posted: 6/21/2012 8:15:09 PM
Originally Posted By DangerJ:
Originally Posted By jonny762:
Billy Corgan comes to mind, though his music won't appeal to most of the hive. The guy wrote and recorded Siamese Dream almost entirely by himself (sans drums), and pretty much wrote, composed, and played most of the Pumpkins' material. Very underrated - but, he's pretty boring to watch, so it may be a wash. Applicable to Hetfield pre-Black Album. 
Hetfield wrote the lyrics. Ulrich, Burton, Hammet and Mustaine were all in on the music with Hetfield, and they all recorded their own parts. Not so much with Smashing Pumpkins (Corgan wrote and recorded multiple instruments creating the first albums damn near by himself). We get it, you like Metallica. So do a lot of us... let's just not get ridiculous about how great Hetfield is/was. |
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Posted: 6/21/2012 8:25:24 PM
Originally Posted By DangerJ:
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Les Claypool Bass, DQ'd. Still, Les is probably a better guitar player...  |
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Posted: 6/21/2012 9:06:10 PM
joe bonamassa
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Posted: 6/21/2012 10:06:52 PM
Originally Posted By FMD: Originally Posted By DangerJ: Post your submission so I can tell you how much better Hetfield is than whoever you pick. Not the best ever, but I'll play - with a fairly obscure but ironclad pick: Rik Emmett (you whippersnappers are gonna hafta fire up the wayback machine for that one) Why? 1) Emmett has (had) possibly one of the most incredible voices in rock. Golden pipes that were rivaled maybe by Freddie Mercury and/or Brad Delp, who didn't really play, and played with mediocrity respectively. 2) Emmett's singing live was every bit as good as it was on studio stuff. Rare in rock, and something that Hetfield doesn't even come close to. 3) Emmett was the only guitarist for the band, pulling double duty lead/rhythm... and the dude shredded.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5hYL7SBxvI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ8siZ2gcCs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA2q5CxLDm4. . . . . . Edit to fix YT code (maybe) Those guys rock. Look at crowd at that concert. Wow. Do concerts get that big anymore? |
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Posted: 6/21/2012 10:08:16 PM
[Last Edit: 6/21/2012 10:09:07 PM by HighDesert6920]
Originally Posted By Bassgasm: This guy beats 87% of the suggestions in this thread, including OP's. Agreed |
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Posted: 6/21/2012 10:08:23 PM
Originally Posted By sydney7629: Sorry, but this guy could play rings around James Hetfield http://img.karaoke-lyrics.net/img/artists/15139/dire-straits-227758.png thread over |
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Posted: 6/21/2012 10:53:01 PM
Good, definitely.
Greatest? Not even in the ballpark. |
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Posted: 6/21/2012 10:55:17 PM
Gayest guitar playing frontman maybe...oh wait, that dude in Nickleback plays guitar too.
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Posted: 6/21/2012 11:03:12 PM
Originally Posted By Bassgasm:
This guy beats 87% of the suggestions in this thread, including OP's. Zakk, as you well know, travels by train of white stallions.  |
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Posted: 6/21/2012 11:05:30 PM
Jizzus, Even recent pretenders such as Jack White would absolutely eat Hetfield's lunch.
Let alone a Richard Thompson or even a Bonnie Raitt. |
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Posted: 6/21/2012 11:36:26 PM
Metallica does nothing for me.
My vote would be for Paul Weller from The Jam.  |
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Posted: 6/21/2012 11:38:39 PM
I have no doubt he was tossed around his schools like moms tampon stash. I have no doubt it was for good reason.
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Posted: 6/22/2012 12:08:51 AM
Best monotone hack ever.
Couldn't carry a tune in a fucking bucket. |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 12:10:33 AM
Originally Posted By azjeeper: Best monotone hack ever. Couldn't carry a tune in a fucking bucket. huh...you may not like his voice, and that's cool, but he sure as hell isn't tone deaf... |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 12:20:39 AM
Originally Posted By BigJ_223:
I agree. Nothing more to add.
*Huge Metallica fan. Huge James Hetfield fan. I am in your boat. We will sail the stormy seas of derision, harried by disgruntled Megadeath loving pirates. |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 12:29:51 AM
I'm a huge Metallica fan, and he's not the best of all time, but holy shit, he's pretty damn good and at least a ways up on the list. Pretty fucking ridiculous all the folks on here saying he's a complete no talent hack that sucks ass.
Guess what, I like the Cowboys too. Hate the fucking 49ers, but guess what, Joe Montana was the shit and Jerry Rice is the best receiver of all time. Is what it is, no reason to make yourself look like a complete ignorant asshole and deny acknowledgement of the dudes accomplishments. I guess some people just get off to being the contrarian on the internet. |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 12:31:53 AM
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Originally Posted By azjeeper:
Best monotone hack ever. Couldn't carry a tune in a fucking bucket. huh...you may not like his voice, and that's cool, but he sure as hell isn't tone deaf... Dude can't sing, just yells shit in a monotone voice. |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 6:50:33 AM
You're joking, right?
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Posted: 6/22/2012 7:28:32 AM
Originally Posted By Gator96:
I'm a huge Metallica fan, and he's not the best of all time, but holy shit, he's pretty damn good and at least a ways up on the list. Pretty fucking ridiculous all the folks on here saying he's a complete no talent hack that sucks ass. Guess what, I like the Cowboys too. Hate the fucking 49ers, but guess what, Joe Montana was the shit and Jerry Rice is the best receiver of all time. Is what it is, no reason to make yourself look like a complete ignorant asshole and deny acknowledgement of the dudes accomplishments. I guess some people just get off to being the contrarian on the internet. Exactly. |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 9:30:19 AM
Originally Posted By BigJ_223:
I agree. Nothing more to add.
Agreed. *Huge Metallica fan. Huge James Hetfield fan. |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 9:48:58 AM
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I have no doubt he was tossed around his schools like moms tampon stash. I have no doubt it was for good reason.  |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 9:50:14 AM
Megadave can play and write circles around him.
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Posted: 6/22/2012 12:06:28 PM
[Last Edit: 6/22/2012 12:08:59 PM by RolandofGilead]
Originally Posted By azjeeper: Originally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By azjeeper: Best monotone hack ever. Couldn't carry a tune in a fucking bucket. huh...you may not like his voice, and that's cool, but he sure as hell isn't tone deaf... Dude can't sing, just yells shit in a monotone voice. Um...sometimes he yells, but he's capable of very melodic singing as well. You obviously haven't heard much of their catalog if you think he's tone deaf. Again, you don't have to like his voice, but he's far from tone deaf. Shitty song, on a shitty new Metallica release, but a good example of you talking out of your ass and Hetfield singing on key (though you may still hate his voice).
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Posted: 6/22/2012 12:11:01 PM
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Blind Marky Feltchtone slays all.
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Posted: 6/22/2012 12:33:27 PM
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Edit: I suck at formatting with embedded YT videos. Apologies.
Originally Posted By RolandofGilead:
Um...sometimes he yells, but he's capable of very melodic singing as well. You obviously haven't heard much of their catalog if you think he's tone deaf. Again, you don't have to like his voice, but he's far from tone deaf. Shitty song, on a shitty new Metallica release, but a good example of you talking out of your ass and Hetfield singing on key (though you may still hate his voice). Again, (and I say this as a long-time Metallica fan): How a frontman sings live is a better metric of their ability. Hell, I can be manipulated into sounding like I have a great voice given enough studio time and a decent engineer, and I couldn't carry a tune if you gave me a bucket. Regarding the parts in blue, skip to 2:15-2:45 and tell me he's on pitch... That's a pretty typical "live" Metallica experience when it comes to Hetfield's voice. Further proof (where singing an actual melody is required): Not taking anything away from him or the band, but Hetfield isn't in the same league as truly good frontmen, with a guitar or without. He has limited range, is often off-key, and the best thing about him as part of the act is the guitar work. Sorry guys, but he's just not that good. |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 1:33:35 PM
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Originally Posted By FMD:
Originally Posted By DangerJ:
Post your submission so I can tell you how much better Hetfield is than whoever you pick. Not the best ever, but I'll play - with a fairly obscure but ironclad pick: Rik Emmett (you whippersnappers are gonna hafta fire up the wayback machine for that one) Why? 1) Emmett has (had) possibly one of the most incredible voices in rock. Golden pipes that were rivaled maybe by Freddie Mercury and/or Brad Delp, who didn't really play, and played with mediocrity respectively. 2) Emmett's singing live was every bit as good as it was on studio stuff. Rare in rock, and something that Hetfield doesn't even come close to. 3) Emmett was the only guitarist for the band, pulling double duty lead/rhythm... and the dude shredded. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5hYL7SBxvI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ8siZ2gcCs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA2q5CxLDm4
. . . . . Edit to fix YT code (maybe) .Excellent choice. |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 1:38:24 PM
Originally Posted By FMD:
Originally Posted By DangerJ:
Originally Posted By jonny762:
Billy Corgan comes to mind, though his music won't appeal to most of the hive. The guy wrote and recorded Siamese Dream almost entirely by himself (sans drums), and pretty much wrote, composed, and played most of the Pumpkins' material. Very underrated - but, he's pretty boring to watch, so it may be a wash. Applicable to Hetfield pre-Black Album.
Hetfield wrote the lyrics. Ulrich, Burton, Hammet and Mustaine were all in on the music with Hetfield, and they all recorded their own parts. Not so much with Smashing Pumpkins (Corgan wrote and recorded multiple instruments creating the first albums damn near by himself). We get it, you like Metallica. So do a lot of us... let's just not get ridiculous about how great Hetfield is/was. If that's the criteria, than Prince kills it all unless you are limiting it to metal.. |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 2:15:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Ohio:
If that's the criteria, than Prince kills it all unless you are limiting it to metal.. Another fantastically talented, guitar-playing front man, that would be waaaaay ahead of Hetfield on any talent-based list. |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 2:16:03 PM
Originally Posted By Ohio:
Originally Posted By FMD:
Originally Posted By DangerJ:
Originally Posted By jonny762:
Billy Corgan comes to mind, though his music won't appeal to most of the hive. The guy wrote and recorded Siamese Dream almost entirely by himself (sans drums), and pretty much wrote, composed, and played most of the Pumpkins' material. Very underrated - but, he's pretty boring to watch, so it may be a wash. Applicable to Hetfield pre-Black Album.
Hetfield wrote the lyrics. Ulrich, Burton, Hammet and Mustaine were all in on the music with Hetfield, and they all recorded their own parts. Not so much with Smashing Pumpkins (Corgan wrote and recorded multiple instruments creating the first albums damn near by himself). We get it, you like Metallica. So do a lot of us... let's just not get ridiculous about how great Hetfield is/was. If that's the criteria, than Prince kills it all unless you are limiting it to metal.. Prince definitely belongs on the list (way ahead of Hetfield), even though I mostly hate his music. He's unbelievably talented. |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 2:50:35 PM
Originally Posted By Bassgasm:
This guy beats 87% of the suggestions in this thread, including OP's. Weak as shit, bro. |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 2:50:37 PM
I'd take Hetfield as a front man. He's a showman, a good musician, and a solid vocalist.
*dons flamesuit* I gotta give the nod to Eddie Vedder. Much as I hate his politics, I love the music. The guy defines Pearl Jam. |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 2:51:15 PM
Originally Posted By ftw13:
he's a faggot and Metallica sucks. they haven't done anything worth a shit since the black album flame on |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 3:13:23 PM
Originally Posted By Thermionix:
Originally Posted By Bassgasm:
This guy beats 87% of the suggestions in this thread, including OP's. Weak as shit, bro. You're so cute. Just crapping over everything, not offering up any submissions. Such a helpful little bear, aren't you? |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 3:15:21 PM
Originally Posted By DrFeelgood:
I'd take Hetfield as a front man. He's a showman, a good musician, and a solid vocalist. *dons flamesuit* I gotta give the nod to Eddie Vedder. Much as I hate his politics, I love the music. The guy defines Pearl Jam. Yeah, that's why I hate him. |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 3:16:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Ohio:
If that's the criteria, than Prince kills it all unless you are limiting it to metal.. Another fantastically talented, guitar-playing front man, that would be waaaaay ahead of Hetfield on any talent-based list. Part of what just kills me about the guy is that as great as his guitar playing is, he considers himself a bass player that can handle a guitar. |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 3:20:43 PM
Originally Posted By Ohio:
Originally Posted By FMD:
Originally Posted By Ohio:
If that's the criteria, than Prince kills it all unless you are limiting it to metal.. Another fantastically talented, guitar-playing front man, that would be waaaaay ahead of Hetfield on any talent-based list. Part of what just kills me about the guy is that as great as his guitar playing is, he considers himself a bass player that can handle a guitar. 
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Posted: 6/22/2012 3:35:25 PM
Originally Posted By FMD:
Originally Posted By Ohio:
Originally Posted By FMD:
Originally Posted By Ohio:
If that's the criteria, than Prince kills it all unless you are limiting it to metal.. Another fantastically talented, guitar-playing front man, that would be waaaaay ahead of Hetfield on any talent-based list. Part of what just kills me about the guy is that as great as his guitar playing is, he considers himself a bass player that can handle a guitar. http://static.cinemagia.ro/img/db/actor/01/03/25/johnny-carson-879558l.jpg Don't get it... |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 3:37:59 PM
Originally Posted By sydney7629:
Sorry, but this guy could play rings around James Hetfield http://img.karaoke-lyrics.net/img/artists/15139/dire-straits-227758.png Yes, Mark Knopfler FTW. |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 3:43:51 PM
James Hetfield: Greatest guitar-playing frontman ever, or greatest guitar-playing frontman ever?
Whilst I love Metallica. He is not the best 'guitar-playing frontman', he is in the top, but not the best. |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 3:46:52 PM
Originally Posted By Balista:
James Hetfield: Greatest guitar-playing frontman ever, or greatest guitar-playing frontman ever?
Whilst I love Metallica. He is not the best 'guitar-playing frontman', he is in the top, but not the best. I would love to hear your submissions. Not so I can knock them down, but to see what you like. That's the whole purpose of this thread ( I mean, come on...I included a 'shopped pic of him playing a banjo and compared him to the Cowardly Lion in my OP...this isn't a very serious bizness thread) |
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Posted: 6/22/2012 4:12:07 PM
Originally Posted By sydney7629:
Sorry, but this guy could play rings around James Hetfield http://img.karaoke-lyrics.net/img/artists/15139/dire-straits-227758.png Sammy Hagar and Paul Stanley can out-play Hetfield. In fact, David Lee Roth is a better front man and almost as good a picker. |
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