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Posted: 6/15/2012 3:53:16 PM
Originally Posted By scotchymcdrinkerbean:
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Originally Posted By texasaggie:
The uk scrapped their last aircraft carrier and can no longer project power like in the last war. To think that your enemies will not take full advantage is naive.


Bring it on, mate!

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Hard to effect an invasion when you cannot support it by sea. Airlift is great . . . if the planes aren't gettting shot down on their way over.


Actually, there are three components to the Falkland's defense that are already in place.

a) nuclear sub that can prevent ANY attempted ship-borne landing.
b) substantial British troop presence & missile batteries that can take out planes attempting to land
c) British naval missile vessel that has a radar/fire control system so advanced that some analysts believe it alone could take out all South American air forces simultaneously Certainly the Argentinian air force would barely cause it to even break a sweat, as its missiles wiped the old crappy planes from the sky.

If the Argies tried a full-scale assault tomorrow morning, the British could easily repel it, without having to get any additional forces or reinforcements send to the area.

The Argentinian bitch is all bark, and it's all to try to distract her people from her gross mismanagement of the country.


I think the biggest problem the RN would have would be missile resupply. I imagine one or two Pucaras might manage a strafing run of some random pasture or two but that's about it.



True, but the Dauntless carries at least 48 missiles (don't know if they have spares on board, or only have the 48). Considering (as you pointed out) that the Typhoons could easily take out a big chunk of any incoming aircraft wing, and land-based missiles batteries could take some out as well - I don't think the Dauntless would run out of missiles, even if the Argies threw everything they could possibly get into the air at the islands simultaneously.
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Posted: 6/15/2012 3:53:23 PM
That batty cow actually argued that the right to self-determination of peoples does not exist because the U.N. has not declared the existance of this universal human right and recognized international law.

By her reasoning, the tiny percentage of indiginous Argentinians should march into Buenos Aires and demand that 90% of the population FO back to Italy & Spain from where that 90% originated (never mind the fact that it was over a century ago & they might not want to go).

At least Argentina should negociate with thier indiginous population about vacating the land, right?
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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:02:24 PM
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Originally Posted By CBR900:
That batty cow actually argued that the right to self-determination of peoples does not exist because the U.N. has not declared the existance of this universal human right and recognized international law.

By her reasoning, the tiny percentage of indiginous Argentinians should march into Buenos Aires and demand that 90% of the population FO back to Italy & Spain from where that 90% originated (never mind the fact that it was over a century ago & they might not want to go).

At least Argentina should negociate with thier indiginous population about vacating the land, right?


No no no! You see, because the people in Argentina are kinda sorta brownish (but not really) and don't speak English that means we're supposed to think of them as an oppressed minority and totally forget the fact that they're all descended from European imperialists who owned slaves and massacred the native population.
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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:07:28 PM
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Now the daft bint's demanding talks

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18453372

Hopefully one day she'll learn to stop poking before they get hurt again


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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:07:41 PM

Originally Posted By CBR900:
That batty cow actually argued that the right to self-determination of peoples does not exist because the U.N. has not declared the existance of this universal human right and recognized international law.

By her reasoning, the tiny percentage of indiginous Argentinians should march into Buenos Aires and demand that 90% of the population FO back to Italy & Spain from where that 90% originated (never mind the fact that it was over a century ago & they might not want to go).

At least Argentina should negociate with thier indiginous population about vacating the land, right?
fuck Argentian and fuck the UN too.

"While Fernandez swept into the conference room with a delegation of more than 90 Argentines including ministers and political opponents, the Falklands was represented by the two lawmakers and six young islanders. When Fernandez was introduced, she was applauded and after her lengthy speech she received sustained applause. After the Falklands representatives spoke, there was the usual silence. "

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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:11:05 PM
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The uk scrapped their last aircraft carrier and can no longer project power like in the last war. To think that your enemies will not take full advantage is naive.


Hope their ships and planes have cloaking devices. Last I heard they had a SSN lurking and an Aegis plus type destroyer cruising around.
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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:19:34 PM

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:

True, but the Dauntless carries at least 48 missiles (don't know if they have spares on board, or only have the 48). Considering (as you pointed out) that the Typhoons could easily take out a big chunk of any incoming aircraft wing, and land-based missiles batteries could take some out as well - I don't think the Dauntless would run out of missiles, even if the Argies threw everything they could possibly get into the air at the islands simultaneously.

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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:27:30 PM
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Ironically I would sink my Belgrano into her.


With your Pink Torpedo in her bottom?


Nah I'm a cruiser not a destroyer, but enough double entendre;

I actually did some looking into the Argentinean claim and that stuff is based on virtually fuck all and is a bout as credible as Germany claiming the Channel Islands

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They can go create their own liberal human centipede since they're used to eating each others shit
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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:32:22 PM
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Ironically I would sink my Belgrano into her.


Slap her with the ole Exocet!
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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:33:14 PM
Originally Posted By dport:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:

True, but the Dauntless carries at least 48 missiles (don't know if they have spares on board, or only have the 48). Considering (as you pointed out) that the Typhoons could easily take out a big chunk of any incoming aircraft wing, and land-based missiles batteries could take some out as well - I don't think the Dauntless would run out of missiles, even if the Argies threw everything they could possibly get into the air at the islands simultaneously.

No reloads.


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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:33:57 PM
Well, the UK has given up all its other colonies what's the big deal?
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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:36:54 PM

Originally Posted By SilentType:
Well, the UK has given up all its other colonies what's the big deal?


This would be like giving Australia to Japan.


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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:39:17 PM
What are the Falklands?

Only Islands down there are the Malvina's I thought.

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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:40:59 PM
Originally Posted By iggy1337:
Originally Posted By Agent_Funky:
Originally Posted By iggy1337:
Ironically I would sink my Belgrano into her.


With your Pink Torpedo in her bottom?


Nah I'm a cruiser not a destroyer, but enough double entendre;

I actually did some looking into the Argentinean claim and that stuff is based on virtually fuck all and is a bout as credible as Germany claiming the Channel Islands



Based on the lunatic ravings of a madwoman. Actually, that's insulting to lunatics, ravers and the mad. She's waving the Falklands around like a big, fat red herring knowing full well it's all bullshit. Makes me want to go down there and donate a few cans of ammo.

I think the Falklands just became my dream vacation spot.
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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:41:04 PM
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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:41:37 PM

Originally Posted By 4bangin:
What are the Falklands?

Only Islands down there are the Malvina's I thought.


your map ,,, it's broke
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Sadly, there are mass graves all over Europe, full of the wrong people.

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Shit, you Brits would stir shit up just to keep the others off balance.
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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:44:41 PM

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Agent provocateur

and it's not even Sunday yet



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By usptac:
Sadly, there are mass graves all over Europe, full of the wrong people.

by sherrick13
Shit, you Brits would stir shit up just to keep the others off balance.
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UK diplomatic team underway to begin talks.

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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:49:07 PM

Originally Posted By 4bangin:
What are the Falklands?

Only Islands down there are the Malvina's I thought.


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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:51:11 PM
shes pushing for a bitch slap
if it wasn't for the lives that would be lost I would say that I hope she gets what she's asking for
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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:53:38 PM
Originally Posted By 4bangin:
What are the Falklands?

Only Islands down there are the Malvina's I thought.



The issue was resolved, decisively, in 1982.

They're the Falklands.
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Posted: 6/15/2012 4:57:50 PM
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Originally Posted By 4bangin:
What are the Falklands?

Only Islands down there are the Malvina's I thought.



The issue was resolved, decisively, in 1982.

They're the Falklands.


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Posted: 6/15/2012 5:11:17 PM
Hmm, Argentina hasn't improved it's military at all. While the Brits have got the latest and greatest (though a lot less of it). How many more Argentinian's die this time for a fools illusions of adequacy.
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Posted: 6/15/2012 5:19:37 PM
The U.K.'s aircraft carriers R08 and R09 are under construction. First one entering service in 2016 I believe.
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Posted: 6/15/2012 5:35:29 PM
Wouldn't they have a tender ship down there with her for stuff like at-sea refueling and rearming? I don't know jack shit about naval operations but I can't imagine that thing would have to go back to shore and tie up to the pier to take on fuel and missiles in that remote part of the world.


Originally Posted By dport:

Originally Posted By DK-Prof:

True, but the Dauntless carries at least 48 missiles (don't know if they have spares on board, or only have the 48). Considering (as you pointed out) that the Typhoons could easily take out a big chunk of any incoming aircraft wing, and land-based missiles batteries could take some out as well - I don't think the Dauntless would run out of missiles, even if the Argies threw everything they could possibly get into the air at the islands simultaneously.

No reloads.


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Posted: 6/15/2012 5:37:25 PM
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Originally Posted By Agent_Funky:
Originally Posted By texasaggie:
The uk scrapped their last aircraft carrier and can no longer project power like in the last war. To think that your enemies will not take full advantage is naive.


Yeah, but we've got two more big ones being built. So if they want to kick off then it might take us a bit longer but are will still go down there and fuck them up.

besides, we have subs and advanced interceptors in the area, not to mention a larger garrison than before.

http://www.marinebuzz.com/marinebuzzuploads/HMSQueenElizabethandHMSPrinceOfWalestoJo_9377/Comparison_with_other_Carriers.jpg

http://www.ssa.org.uk/store/58e936f7b69fee10f6aa8c936c6581d6.jpg


Damn, they build that shit indoors? Don't we build all of our ships out in the open without an enclosure surrounding it?
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Posted: 6/15/2012 5:52:07 PM
Originally Posted By texasaggie:
The uk scrapped their last aircraft carrier and can no longer project power like in the last war. To think that your enemies will not take full advantage is naive.


The islands are the aircraft carrier this time.

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