Originally Posted By cyborg543:

You know why

Political Correctness

It makes liberals very very uncomfortable to find fault with non-whites and very happy to find fault with whites.

Originally Posted By LRRPF52:

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You wouldn't believe the oppressiveness of PC culture in Europe. I'm watching the punitive actions against speech right now in Finland, where one of the Nationalist Members of Parliament is being black-balled by the other Socialist Nutbags for speaking the truth about immigrants who come here and free-load off the system, while making tons of babies who do the same.

He even called Mohamed a child rapist, for taking Aesha to wife at age 7-9, depending on which interpretation of the Q'uran you align with.

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Earlier that day, the President of Germany, Paul von Hindenburg, had appointed Hitler Chancellor (similar to Prime Minister). Having won more than than 37 percent of the vote in the previous year's legislative elections, Hitler's Nazi party had enough power to effectively paralyze Germany's democratic government, which had been in place since 1919. Hindenburg hoped that by appointing Hitler, he could satisfy Nazi legislators and break the deadlock, while maintaining control of the government behind the scenes.

Originally Posted By DangerJ:
Japanese students are not taught about Nanking. Total denial.

They are also taught that Americans started the Pacific war - and that Japanese went to all these Asian countries out of benevolence- to help them farm better and to help their economies.

Seriously.

Originally Posted By cyborg543:


???

never seen such a thing ever, not even in the newspaper

Originally Posted By Chromekilla:


This sounds pretty accurate. My cousin was over there as an exchange student with the 4h over one summer.

Originally Posted By exilefromhell:


I have a German friend that sunk his head when I asked if/how they teach WW2/Hitler/etc in school. It was emotional for him to describe to me. I believe they not only teach it, but they do so in a way that makes them ashamed of things that happen before there time.

Originally Posted By HogJaws:
Learninggermanhistory was a good course.

Originally Posted By gopeterson:


Well to be fair, pretty much all the other stuff was boring.

Originally Posted By AJ_Dual:

Japan could use a little of the self-awareness and historical flagellation that Germany has about WWII.

We screwed up the occupation somewhat by not rubbing their noses in it a bit harder. We allowed ourselves to be too concerned about the whole country picking up sticks and kitchen knives and going banzai/seppuku on us because of our experiences fighting them on the islands, and watching the civilians jumping from cliffs in Okinawa.

Originally Posted By Zhukov:


You're way overstating the "jail time for talk about Nazis" thing.

As far as the Turks are concerned - they've been around a long time, and were indeed looked down upon. Germans live in a very homogeneous society for the most part, and foreigners stand out. The Turks were cheap labor and usually low income, so it was natural to ostracize them.

Originally Posted By Chromekilla:

Not according to what the exchange student told me in 2010. He referenced drawing a swazi and you are gonna go to jail. They don't want anything glorifying the nazis.

Originally Posted By Dr_Dickie:
Hitler was not "elected" Chancellor, he forced Hindenburg to give him the title.

And the Nazis were almost gone (as a political power) before the world recession got Germans to try anything to help the Republic.

Originally Posted By Zhukov:
As you might know, I'm a naturalized German citizen and went to school in Germany until we emigrated to the US after my 10th grade year.

First thing is that history is taught every year. In the Realschule (more or less middle school, grades 5-10), you start with the really early stuff in 5th grade 7th grade was the Roman empire, etc. and 10th grade is spent on the "modern era". As such, the Third Reich was taught in detail. The teaching style - and this may be more my teacher (whom I despised as a kid but now I think she was kick-ass) - was very objective. I know that one morning before class that a few of my classmates had gotten hold of the words of the "Horst Wessel Lied" and were singing it (just to be goofy - you know how 10th graders are), and our teacher overheard it as she came down the hall. She was PISSED.

There was no attempt to make you feel over-the-top guilt or anything like that. If anything, that comes from outside influences as in how other countries deal with Germany. As far as the latter is concerned: I think that this outside influence is waning and the younger generation is pretty much past it even if the politicians still grovel from time to time.

In summary: As a German, you are acutely aware of what happened in Germany, but it was taught in a very objective manner (based on my experience in the 80s).

By contrast, there is some pretty active denial going on when it comes to talking about the LOCAL involvement during the Third Reich. I have come to find out about that not too long ago in some pretty eye-opening moments. The older folks aren't talking, and the younger ones aren't asking.

Originally Posted By LRRPF52:
If you want to see a German recoil and self-destruct into a spastic series of near internal combustion, mention Hitler.

Originally Posted By exilefromhell:


I have a German friend that sunk his head when I asked if/how they teach WW2/Hitler/etc in school. It was emotional for him to describe to me. I believe they not only teach it, but they do so in a way that makes them ashamed of things that happen before there time.