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Posted: 5/29/2012 9:25:20 AM EDT
President Obama has placed himself at the helm of a secret process to mark terrorists for kill or capture, retaining final say on approving lethal action, aides said.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/world/obamas-leadership-in-war-on-al-qaeda.html?_r=1&hp



New York Times making Obama look good before the election.
Link Posted: 5/29/2012 9:27:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/29/2012 9:27:39 AM EDT by CyberSEAL]
Luckily only one type of person reads the NY Times.
Link Posted: 5/29/2012 9:30:35 AM EDT
Originally Posted By CyberSEAL:
Luckily only one type of person reads the NY Times.


Fewer and fewer...........



Link Posted: 5/29/2012 9:32:45 AM EDT
What does "Principles" mean? Clearly the dictionary definition does not fit, we're talking about a politician.
Link Posted: 5/29/2012 1:20:29 PM EDT
If something like this leaked out during President Bush's tenure there would be a firestorm.
Link Posted: 5/29/2012 1:25:48 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 583:
President Obama has placed himself at the helm of a secret process to mark terrorists for kill or capture, retaining final say on approving lethal action, aides said.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/world/obamas-leadership-in-war-on-al-qaeda.html?_r=1&hp



New York Times making Obama look good before the election.


crickets are all that will be heard from the MSM, just imagine had this come out under Bush! MSNBC would be running 24/7 wah fest type crap, and every liberal news outlet would be crying foul.

Link Posted: 5/29/2012 1:30:29 PM EDT
Are you sure this is not being done to draw attention away from something which does not paint him in a good light? Like more bad economic news? As there is some other kind with this Bozo in charge.
Link Posted: 5/29/2012 2:38:47 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 338winmag:
Are you sure this is not being done to draw attention away from something which does not paint him in a good light? Like more bad economic news? As there is some other kind with this Bozo in charge.


Read the artical then tell me what you think.
Link Posted: 5/29/2012 2:49:04 PM EDT
"shadow war with Al Qaeda"

or more accurately

"manhunt for sand people"

like there's even that many al qaeda in the world.....please
Link Posted: 5/29/2012 2:54:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 583:
If something like this leaked out during President Bush's tenure there would be a firestorm.

Somewhere, Dick Cheney is smiling....
Link Posted: 5/29/2012 2:58:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GarandM1:

Originally Posted By 583:
If something like this leaked out during President Bush's tenure there would be a firestorm.

Somewhere, Dick Cheney is smiling....


Kelog likes.
Link Posted: 5/29/2012 2:58:38 PM EDT
of course arfcom is ok with the president getting to make a kill list. nothing could possibly go wrong... right?
Link Posted: 5/29/2012 3:02:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 583:
If something like this leaked out during President Bush's tenure there would be a firestorm.


Oh hell yes,
War Monger! Death Merchant! He should be brought up on war crimes!

I'm starting to just get sick of politics and many of the people in our country.
Never has a time been where we were so divided and screwed up.
Link Posted: 5/29/2012 3:06:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/29/2012 3:07:24 PM EDT by ArchInfidel]
If this isn't an exaggeration to prop up the emperor, it shows just how much of an amateur he is. A man with no military background whatsoever, no foreign diplomatic or strategic interest experience, is micro-managing a hit list? There should be a clear policy dictated to the military which they interpret and make these decisions as opportunities arise. I wonder how many jihadis have gotten away waiting for Obama to finish the back 9 so they could ask him how they are allowed to take out this guy?
Link Posted: 5/29/2012 3:10:09 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/29/2012 3:12:43 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/29/2012 3:27:44 PM EDT
Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:
Originally Posted By ArchInfidel:
If this isn't an exaggeration to prop up the emperor, it shows just how much of an amateur he is. A man with no military background whatsoever, no foreign diplomatic or strategic interest experience, is micro-managing a hit list? There should be a clear policy dictated to the military which they interpret and make these decisions as opportunities arise. I wonder how many jihadis have gotten away waiting for Obama to finish the back 9 so they could ask him how they are allowed to take out this guy?


Not many.

Mr. Obama is enthusiastic about killing bad guys. He's expanded these types of programs and the places where they strike moreso than Bush. The going theory is that it's much harder to complain about the rights of captured terrorists if you kill them before they can be captured...so hellfire missile up the butt for you, Mr. Jihadi. The left has been eerily silent about it because they don't like terrorists any more than the rest of us do. It was merely a useful tool for bludgenoning the guy they didn't want in office to elect a guy they did want in office.


John,

I think this article was meant to boost his standing in the court of public opinion. The man carries a heavy heart when it comes to being the CIC.

Link Posted: 5/29/2012 3:29:29 PM EDT
Nobel Peace Prize winner, eh?
Link Posted: 5/29/2012 3:45:13 PM EDT





Link Posted: 5/29/2012 4:02:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 583:
President Obama has placed himself at the helm of a secret process to mark terrorists for kill or capture, retaining final say on approving lethal action, aides said.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/world/obamas-leadership-in-war-on-al-qaeda.html?_r=1&hp



New York Times making Obama look good before the election.


Wait. Wut?

So, now they are praising him for the very same things they bashed Bush for, for the very things that Obama said he would NOT do?????

Do I understand that correctly?

Link Posted: 5/29/2012 4:04:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By woofum:
Originally Posted By 583:
If something like this leaked out during President Bush's tenure there would be a firestorm.


Oh hell yes,
War Monger! Death Merchant! He should be brought up on war crimes!

I'm starting to just get sick of politics and many of the people in our country.
Never has a time been where we were so divided and screwed up.


They DID say those things about Bush.

Link Posted: 5/29/2012 4:05:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By LARRYG:
Originally Posted By 583:
President Obama has placed himself at the helm of a secret process to mark terrorists for kill or capture, retaining final say on approving lethal action, aides said.


http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/world/obamas-leadership-in-war-on-al-qaeda.html?_r=1&hp



New York Times making Obama look good before the election.


Wait. Wut?

So, now they are praising him for the very same things they bashed Bush for, for the very things that Obama said he would NOT do?????

Do I understand that correctly?



You've got it.
Link Posted: 5/29/2012 4:07:14 PM EDT
Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:
Originally Posted By ArchInfidel:
If this isn't an exaggeration to prop up the emperor, it shows just how much of an amateur he is. A man with no military background whatsoever, no foreign diplomatic or strategic interest experience, is micro-managing a hit list? There should be a clear policy dictated to the military which they interpret and make these decisions as opportunities arise. I wonder how many jihadis have gotten away waiting for Obama to finish the back 9 so they could ask him how they are allowed to take out this guy?


Not many.

Mr. Obama is enthusiastic about killing bad guys. He's expanded these types of programs and the places where they strike moreso than Bush. The going theory is that it's much harder to complain about the rights of captured terrorists if you kill them before they can be captured...so hellfire missile up the butt for you, Mr. Jihadi. The left has been eerily silent about it because they don't like terrorists any more than the rest of us do. It was merely a useful tool for bludgenoning the guy they didn't want in office to elect a guy they did want in office.


He wasn't so goddamned enthusiastic about killing bad guys when GWB was at the helm.

Yeah, he expanded the programs because both Congress and the MSM give him a pass on doing it and would have crucified any Republican who would have done the same thing.

And I don't believe for one minute that the left is okay with killing terrorists as I believe they identify with the "downtrodden" freedom fighters.

Link Posted: 5/29/2012 4:10:56 PM EDT
Next week he will anounce he is in to beastiality (sp)
Link Posted: 5/29/2012 4:30:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/29/2012 4:34:42 PM EDT by hugh1]
Originally Posted By Cypher15:
of course arfcom is ok with the president getting to make a kill list. nothing could possibly go wrong... right?
Sorta makes you wonder when he will get around to people here in the US doesn't it. Mitt I would keep and eye on the sky if I were you.

Keep two things in mind, Fast and Furies, (we know that this administration can murder) and the fact that the FBI director would not rule out targeted killings here in the US.


Link Posted: 5/29/2012 4:40:08 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Cypher15:
of course arfcom is ok with the president getting to make a kill list. nothing could possibly go wrong... right?


What are you talking about?
Link Posted: 5/29/2012 4:40:23 PM EDT
the article obviously is written to make him look good.

frankly i dont give a rats ass. his attitude towards capitalism and free markets and the tendency to think the government should be ten feet up everyone's ass is what i dont like about the guy.

his performance in taking out terrorists has been better than say.. a jimmy carter who would have immediately pulled our troops out of everywhere and invited osama bin laden to some meeting where he could talk him into being not so mean.

dont loose the focus, he's a socialist bent on converting this country into an amerikan europe.

the article was written for the middle, the undecided. because the left, if pressed about this doesnt like his record in the war on terror.
Link Posted: 5/29/2012 5:58:58 PM EDT
The "pick and choose" President
Link Posted: 5/29/2012 7:41:00 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/29/2012 7:56:22 PM EDT
I think it's a good thing Obama is doing this in the simple context that it's good the military has a set list of terrorists they are looking for. However, isn't that sort of what was in place with the Deck of 52 during the invasion of Iraq? I'm fairly certain that the military commanders in country don't need Obama telling case by case who to go after and who to leave be. I understand that Obama wants to kill terrorists, but he must understand that military commanders aren't stupid. So I think it's more than likely a political move to show republicans that he's not too afraid to take action in order to possibly win over a few votes.
Link Posted: 5/29/2012 7:58:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/29/2012 7:58:47 PM EDT by wtturn]

Originally Posted By Chaingun:
The "pick and choose" President

Erick Erickson calls him "President Both-Ways".


Link Posted: 5/30/2012 9:28:50 AM EDT
Originally Posted By GarandM1:

Originally Posted By 583:
If something like this leaked out during President Bush's tenure there would be a firestorm.

Somewhere, Dick Cheney is smiling....


No doubt. The time to get the equipment and intelligence assets put together for a program like this takes more than 3 years.
Link Posted: 5/30/2012 3:36:17 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 583:
Originally Posted By 338winmag:
Are you sure this is not being done to draw attention away from something which does not paint him in a good light? Like more bad economic news? As there is some other kind with this Bozo in charge.


Read the artical then tell me what you think.


that article is written to make him look pretty good, like he agonizes over each and every thing, how he has matured into the Presidency beyond his initial idealism into a pragmatic warrior.
Link Posted: 5/30/2012 3:45:12 PM EDT
It is unusual that POTUS is approving authority, normally lists like this are approved at a much lower level.
Link Posted: 5/30/2012 4:47:03 PM EDT
Originally Posted By R0N:
It is unusual that POTUS is approving authority, normally lists like this are approved at a much lower level.


Bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive.
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