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stutzcattle
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Posted: 5/4/2012 8:24:46 AM
Store it in a low humidity environment otherwise it will harden and you'll have to beat it with a hammer to get it back to a granular. It is very safe to store and I don't really know of anything quite like it. I buy it by the case and store it in the house.
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Posted: 5/4/2012 8:59:02 AM
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Safe to store. It is illegal to mix the 2 parts and then transport it in your vehicle, unless you are licensed to transport explosives.
I dont' know anything about humidity. eta Can anyone comment on the burn rate of the 2 parts, unmixed? |
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Posted: 5/4/2012 9:07:14 AM
Originally Posted By FrankSymptoms:
Safe to store. It is illegal to mix the 2 parts and then transport it in your vehicle, unless you are licensed to transport explosives. I dont' know anything about humidity. eta Can anyone comment on the burn rate of the 2 parts, unmixed? We couldn't get them to burn with a butane torch. |
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Posted: 5/4/2012 9:08:15 AM
You mix it up, shoot it, and then it explodes? What more is there to know?
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Posted: 5/4/2012 9:12:03 AM
fun stuff!
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Posted: 5/4/2012 9:16:10 AM
VERY safe to store
You don't really have to look out for anything since it wont blow up unless you shoot it You can also make your own instead of paying full price for it. All it is is ammonium nitrate (fertilizer) and aluminum powder. |
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CS223
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Posted: 5/4/2012 9:24:00 AM
It has a limited shelf life so don't expect it to stay viable forever. I think 2 years is tops in an ideal environment. I had some that hardened in the bottle, I ran it through a coffee grinder & mixed it up and it wouldn't detonate.
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Posted: 5/4/2012 9:24:46 AM
it goes BOOM!!!!!!
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Posted: 5/4/2012 9:27:55 AM
Good for getting rid of buildings that you don't need anymore
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Posted: 5/4/2012 9:28:06 AM
Sucks when you don't hit it full on. Graze the side of the container and it will just trickle out on the ground.
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Posted: 5/5/2012 3:47:25 AM
Originally Posted By bantis:
VERY safe to store You don't really have to look out for anything since it wont blow up unless you shoot it You can also make your own instead of paying full price for it. All it is is ammonium nitrate (fertilizer) and aluminum powder. This, it takes a rifle bullet (NOT a .22) to set it off. Someone said that they were making a type that could be set off with a pistol bullet. I don't want to get that close. |
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Posted: 5/5/2012 3:59:15 AM
[Last Edit: 5/5/2012 4:01:43 AM by PugglePod9000]
Originally Posted By CS223:
It has a limited shelf life so don't expect it to stay viable forever. I think 2 years is tops in an ideal environment. I had some that hardened in the bottle, I ran it through a coffee grinder & mixed it up and it wouldn't detonate. Keep it in a SEALED ammo can and it lasts almost forever. I've got some almost 10 years old -It still works as advertised. 
Originally Posted By Blackmore:
Sucks when you don't hit it full on. Graze the side of the container and it will just trickle out on the ground. Wrap the bottle with duct tape. It keeps the powder from running out of frag holes... sort of like a "self-sealing" fuel bladder  |
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Posted: 5/5/2012 4:01:51 AM
Soooo, I'm guessing you have not been to the Tannerite website?
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RyJones
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Posted: 5/5/2012 4:04:09 AM
it is safe and legal to store - unmixed.
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Posted: 5/5/2012 4:32:11 AM
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Do not transport it mixed, do not store it mixed.
Be careful of objects in front of the charge as well. Many a goober has come close to being hit by flying fragments. |
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Posted: 5/5/2012 5:43:15 AM
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Originally Posted By g3shooter:
Do not transport it mixed, do not store it mixed. Be careful of objects in front of the charge as well. Many a goober has come close to being hit by flying fragments. Don't put it in containers that are harder than the plastic dealies they come in before you shoot it. Especially don't do this with PVC pipe. It takes standard "BOOM!" and makes it into "OH MY GOD RUN!!!!!!" because that tree you thought it might be funny to knock down just turned into a billion flying splinters. After that I deemed it far too dangerous for my further consumption. |
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Posted: 5/5/2012 5:51:13 AM
Originally Posted By CS223:
It has a limited shelf life so don't expect it to stay viable forever. I think 2 years is tops in an ideal environment. I had some that hardened in the bottle, I ran it through a coffee grinder & mixed it up and it wouldn't detonate. I've got some that is about 8 years old and it doesn't appear to have degraded at all. It's been stored in the garage so it has been hot, cold, moist, and dry. As long as the bottles are sealed well, it should store for a long time. I last used some back in the fall so I know it still works. Just noticed you're in Fla - maybe that's enough of a harsh environment (humidity and heat) to cause it to degrade early. |
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Posted: 5/5/2012 8:32:32 AM
Originally Posted By Turboguy1:
Originally Posted By g3shooter:
Do not transport it mixed, do not store it mixed. Be careful of objects in front of the charge as well. Many a goober has come close to being hit by flying fragments. Don't put it in containers that are harder than the plastic dealies they come in before you shoot it. Especially don't do this with PVC pipe. It takes standard "BOOM!" and makes it into "OH MY GOD RUN!!!!!!" because that tree you thought it might be funny to knock down just turned into a billion flying splinters. After that I deemed it far too dangerous for my further consumption. You do realize you just inspired dozens of people to do exactly this - ya? |
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Posted: 5/5/2012 8:35:56 AM
Is Tannerite legal in all states?
It just seems odd to me that an explosive is legal. Cool as hell but odd. |
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Posted: 5/5/2012 9:08:32 AM
Originally Posted By jljonsn:
Originally Posted By Turboguy1:
Originally Posted By g3shooter:
Do not transport it mixed, do not store it mixed. Be careful of objects in front of the charge as well. Many a goober has come close to being hit by flying fragments. Don't put it in containers that are harder than the plastic dealies they come in before you shoot it. Especially don't do this with PVC pipe. It takes standard "BOOM!" and makes it into "OH MY GOD RUN!!!!!!" because that tree you thought it might be funny to knock down just turned into a billion flying splinters. After that I deemed it far too dangerous for my further consumption. You do realize you just inspired dozens of people to do exactly this - ya? What planet are you from? He just said don't do it. Who would be dumb enough to do this after he plainly said not to? |
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Posted: 5/5/2012 9:11:46 AM
Originally Posted By CS223:
It has a limited shelf life so don't expect it to stay viable forever. I think 2 years is tops in an ideal environment. I had some that hardened in the bottle, I ran it through a coffee grinder & mixed it up and it wouldn't detonate. I bought some AN probably 6 years ago in ohio when we lived there that still went boom last spring at the range. As long as it's kept sealed so moisture can't get into it, it'll be fine. BTW, if you like things that go boom, it's probably the most fun you can have with your clothes on. Fwiw, a 5,5 lb charge shakes houses a mile + away... Or so said the deputy who showed up. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 5/5/2012 9:18:19 AM
Completely safe to store, ridiculously easy to make both components yourself - much cheaper than buying it.
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Posted: 5/5/2012 9:20:39 AM
Originally Posted By Turboguy1:
Originally Posted By g3shooter:
Do not transport it mixed, do not store it mixed. Be careful of objects in front of the charge as well. Many a goober has come close to being hit by flying fragments. Don't put it in containers that are harder than the plastic dealies they come in before you shoot it. Especially don't do this with PVC pipe. It takes standard "BOOM!" and makes it into "OH MY GOD RUN!!!!!!" because that tree you thought it might be funny to knock down just turned into a billion flying splinters. After that I deemed it far too dangerous for my further consumption. PVC at over 100 yds is pretty safe, but whenever we do the PVC method I feel like the ATF has a satellite homing in on my for some sort of constructive intent. |
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Posted: 5/5/2012 6:18:17 PM
Originally Posted By Sparky4Life:
Is Tannerite legal in all states? It just seems odd to me that an explosive is legal. Cool as hell but odd.My question also. 
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Posted: 5/5/2012 6:19:27 PM
Originally Posted By desertw0lf:
Completely safe to store, ridiculously easy to make both components yourself - much cheaper than buying it. You make your own ammonium nitrate and aluminum powder? |
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FrankSymptoms
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Posted: 5/6/2012 6:57:13 AM
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Originally Posted By L_JE:
Originally Posted By jljonsn:
Originally Posted By Turboguy1:
Originally Posted By g3shooter:
Do not transport it mixed, do not store it mixed. Be careful of objects in front of the charge as well. Many a goober has come close to being hit by flying fragments. Don't put it in containers that are harder than the plastic dealies they come in before you shoot it. Especially don't do this with PVC pipe. It takes standard "BOOM!" and makes it into "OH MY GOD RUN!!!!!!" because that tree you thought it might be funny to knock down just turned into a billion flying splinters. After that I deemed it far too dangerous for my further consumption. You do realize you just inspired dozens of people to do exactly this - ya? What planet are you from? He just said don't do it. Who would be dumb enough to do this after he plainly said not to? About 87% of the people reading this thread. |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 7:03:56 AM
Originally Posted By The_Reaper: Originally Posted By desertw0lf: Completely safe to store, ridiculously easy to make both components yourself - much cheaper than buying it. You make your own ammonium nitrate and aluminum powder? Hell, I would like to know where to find a reliable source of bulk aluminum powder. The really good stuff is damn near impossible to order from most places it seems. |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 7:05:19 AM
Some dude on here shot some to blow up a holster and it had less punch than shit you buy at roadside fireworks stands so some of it sucks.
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Posted: 5/6/2012 7:13:47 AM
It has been a long time since I looked at the numbers, but Tannerite expands at close to 13,000 fps and C4 expands at 24,000 fps (IIRC). While it isn't as powerful as C4, it packs quite a punch.
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Posted: 5/6/2012 9:17:07 AM
Originally Posted By DV8:
It has been a long time since I looked at the numbers, but Tannerite expands at close to 13,000 fps and C4 expands at 24,000 fps (IIRC). While it isn't as powerful as C4, it packs quite a punch. This. Pretty powerful stuff |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 9:26:01 AM
Originally Posted By packingXDs:
Originally Posted By The_Reaper:
Originally Posted By desertw0lf:
Completely safe to store, ridiculously easy to make both components yourself - much cheaper than buying it. You make your own ammonium nitrate and aluminum powder? Hell, I would like to know where to find a reliable source of bulk aluminum powder. The really good stuff is damn near impossible to order from most places it seems. I took two seconds with Google and typed in "pyrotechnic supplies" and found several places that sell it. |
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pale_pony
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Posted: 5/6/2012 9:32:51 AM
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Don't expect the stuff to be legal much longer...thanks to YouTube, Sons of Guns, American Guns, and the rest of the re-tards brought to you by the Discovery channel.
Either by legislation or by executive fiat, some knee-jerk politician WILL take the stuff off the market soon or make it impossible for us lowly peons to use. |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 9:36:13 AM
Originally Posted By pale_pony: Possibly, though people have been saying this for 6-7 years.Don't expect the stuff to be legal much longer...thanks to YouTube, Sons of Guns, American Guns, and the rest of the re-tards brought to you by the Discovery channel. Either by legislation or by executive fiat, some knee-jerk politician WILL take the stuff off the market soon or make it impossible for us lowly peons to use. |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 10:00:27 AM
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Originally Posted By RyJones:
it is safe and legal to store - unmixed. The jury is still out on almost every other use after this. 
Originally Posted By Sparky4Life:
Is Tannerite legal in all states? It just seems odd to me that an explosive is legal. Cool as hell but odd.Yes, it is VERY odd...It IS an explosive, and you are in possession of an explosive once you mix it up. The only thing that makes me think it is not a "trap" is that you can buy it at most stores for cash with no I.D. There was a case here a few years back where a guy blew up a dump-truck, setting off all of the alarms at a local Nuclear power plant. There was never any call for making it (more) illegal in this state. |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 10:06:19 AM
Originally Posted By BatchelorGroda:
Originally Posted By RyJones:
it is safe and legal to store - unmixed. The jury is still out on almost every other use after this.
Originally Posted By Sparky4Life:
Is Tannerite legal in all states? It just seems odd to me that an explosive is legal. Cool as hell but odd.Yes, it is VERY odd...It IS an explosive, and you are in possession of an explosive once you mix it up. So it becomes illegal when mixed? |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 10:31:40 AM
Originally Posted By Sparky4Life:
Originally Posted By BatchelorGroda:
Originally Posted By RyJones:
it is safe and legal to store - unmixed. The jury is still out on almost every other use after this.
Originally Posted By Sparky4Life:
Is Tannerite legal in all states? It just seems odd to me that an explosive is legal. Cool as hell but odd.Yes, it is VERY odd...It IS an explosive, and you are in possession of an explosive once you mix it up. So it becomes illegal when mixed? Becomes illegal to transport after being mixed. |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 10:36:27 AM
Don't let your friends line up 5 gallon plastic buckets and shoot the bottles of tannerite on them in a grass pasture area you use. You will be picking up plastic chards for 2 years.
Ask me how I know....  |
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Not a good idea to combine with a tanning booth.
But it could be interesting. |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 10:50:31 AM
Originally Posted By Win_88:
Not a good idea to combine with a tanning booth.
But it could be interesting. I like the way you think |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 10:51:35 AM
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Don't let your friends line up 5 gallon plastic buckets and shoot the bottles of tannerite on them in a grass pasture area you use. You will be picking up plastic chards for 2 years. Ask me how I know....
A 1.5lb cannister of Tannerite will obliterate a laptop. The harddrive will impact the ground only after you've uncovered your head and start looking around. |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 10:55:44 AM
Be right back, going to get some PVC....
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Posted: 5/6/2012 11:02:30 AM
Originally Posted By stutzcattle:
Originally Posted By FrankSymptoms:
Safe to store. It is illegal to mix the 2 parts and then transport it in your vehicle, unless you are licensed to transport explosives. I dont' know anything about humidity. eta Can anyone comment on the burn rate of the 2 parts, unmixed? We couldn't get them to burn with a butane torch. +1. Pretty resistant stuff |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 2:42:12 PM
Originally Posted By desertw0lf: Completely safe to store, ridiculously easy to make both components yourself - much cheaper than buying it. Any links to actual, usable, proven DIY instructions? My son would LOVE to go shoot this stuff, but it seems pretty pricey for what it is. DIY would make us both happy. lol |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 2:46:22 PM
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Originally Posted By texassooner:
Originally Posted By stutzcattle:
Originally Posted By FrankSymptoms:
Safe to store. It is illegal to mix the 2 parts and then transport it in your vehicle, unless you are licensed to transport explosives. I dont' know anything about humidity. eta Can anyone comment on the burn rate of the 2 parts, unmixed? We couldn't get them to burn with a butane torch. +1. Pretty resistant stuff It's sort of like a secondary high explosive (though technically it may not be one). Requires a shockwave to decompose/detonate it, hence the need for a high velocity bullet. Subsonic rounds won't set it off. If you set it on fire nothing will happen, but if you send a sufficient shock wave through it... BOOM. |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 2:49:29 PM
It go BOOM!
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Posted: 5/6/2012 2:56:02 PM
2 lbs of it will start a small grass fire......
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Posted: 5/6/2012 2:58:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Kolat:
2 lbs of it will start a small grass fire...... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile How? Tannerite does not produce a flame, it is merely gas expanding at an extremely high rate of speed. ETA: From Tannerite's website, Tannerite is an "oxygen robber." Therefore it cannot be used to start a fire as it robs one of the essential elements needed for combustion. |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 3:09:50 PM
Originally Posted By DV8:
Originally Posted By Kolat:
2 lbs of it will start a small grass fire...... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile How? Tannerite does not produce a flame, it is merely gas expanding at an extremely high rate of speed. I was coming here to warn about using it in proximity to flammable materials. I bought some of the little orange "pucks" SG was selling as rimfire exploding targets (the "boom" was about equivalent to an M-80). They had an adhesive backing so you could stick them to targets. I stuck a few on a piece of cardboard, and the blast actually ignited it. No way would I use it around dry leaves or grass. |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 3:11:15 PM
Originally Posted By DV8:
Originally Posted By Kolat:
2 lbs of it will start a small grass fire...... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile How? Tannerite does not produce a flame, it is merely gas expanding at an extremely high rate of speed. ETA: From Tannerite's website, Tannerite is an "oxygen robber." Therefore it cannot be used to start a fire as it robs one of the essential elements needed for combustion. The cardboard backer I mentioned was actually in flames from just one single little puck. I had to blow it out. |
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Posted: 5/6/2012 3:35:31 PM
Originally Posted By DV8:
Originally Posted By Kolat:
2 lbs of it will start a small grass fire...... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile How? Tannerite does not produce a flame, it is merely gas expanding at an extremely high rate of speed. ETA: From Tannerite's website, Tannerite is an "oxygen robber." Therefore it cannot be used to start a fire as it robs one of the essential elements needed for combustion. Just has to get hot enough, no? |
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