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Posted: 4/30/2012 3:39:24 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 3:44:13 PM EDT
[#1]

On my way back from Australia in 2006, I had an explosive trace test done on my clothes (randomly pulled out of the queue). I wonder if they will start doing more of those.
 






Link Posted: 4/30/2012 3:46:46 PM EDT
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On the bright side, it counts as your annual colonoscopy under Obamacare!
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 3:48:02 PM EDT
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On the bright side, it counts as your annual colonoscopy under Obamacare!


Hahaha "bright side"
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 3:48:28 PM EDT
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the joke's on them. i hate flying now and don't plan to fly anywhere any time soon.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 3:48:58 PM EDT
[#5]
oh joy
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 3:49:02 PM EDT
[#6]
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On my way back from Australia in 2006, I had an explosive trace test done on my clothes (randomly pulled out of the queue). I wonder if they will start doing more of those.    






I hope you hadn't exploded on your clothes before they examined them

Link Posted: 4/30/2012 3:49:16 PM EDT
[#7]
I went through one of those hands up scanners today.  It's so much worse than arfcom told me our would be.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 3:49:24 PM EDT
[#8]
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On my way back from Australia in 2006, I had an explosive trace test done on my clothes (randomly pulled out of the queue). I wonder if they will start doing more of those.    






Unless the wand sniffers have been upgraded the past few years, laundry soap residue will give a false positive. Make sure your washing machine has a good rinse cycle.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 3:51:35 PM EDT
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the joke's on them. i hate flying now and don't plan to fly anywhere any time soon.


If the Supreme Court upholds Obamacare, expect a proposal to force people to fly.  After all, it's interstate economic activity.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 3:51:39 PM EDT
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Thankfully, We have body scanners to deter these kinds of action




 
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 3:52:56 PM EDT
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Unless the wand sniffers have been upgraded the past few years, laundry soap residue will give a false positive. Make sure your washing machine has a good rinse cycle.
Heh, I didn't know that. They didn't pick anything up on me, thankfully.





 
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 3:55:37 PM EDT
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The goal of zero bombs will be attained as they continue to reduce air travel, which is at all time lows - people aren't flying because of TSA nonsense.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 3:57:52 PM EDT
[#13]
while leaving NOLA. an issue of diesel power magazine got my checked baggage lit up for "sheet explosives"
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 3:59:21 PM EDT
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while leaving NOLA. an issue of diesel power magazine got my checked baggage lit up for "sheet explosives"


Sheet, man.

Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:01:57 PM EDT
[#15]
Just recently flew again since last summer.

I went through the full body scanner both times through TSA. I got the pat down. When I was 18, I had a melanoma removed from my back. It left a very large and deep scar. The scanner picked it up and both guys had to check out my back.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:03:31 PM EDT
[#16]


Looking up a terrorists ass won't find surgically implanted explosives in a terroists abdomen.

Now what? Everyone gets an MRI moments before they fly? I think not.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:07:00 PM EDT
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Looking up a terrorists ass won't find surgically implanted explosives in a terroists abdomen.

Now what? Everyone gets an MRI moments before they fly? I think not.


""We are treating the information seriously," John Pistole, administrator of the Transportation Security Administration, told ABC News in 2011.

Asiri placed a bomb inside the rectal cavity of his brother"

Serious shit. Gives new meaning to the words "Explosive Diarrhea"

Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:09:23 PM EDT
[#18]
Wouldn't that be a violation of the Hippocratic Oath?
 
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:10:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:11:53 PM EDT
[#20]
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Looking up a terrorists ass won't find surgically implanted explosives in a terroists abdomen.

Now what? Everyone gets an MRI moments before they fly? I think not.


That's the wave of the future, right there. And, when we finally move to behavioral screening, they'll start kidnapping random people off the street, implant the bombs, and turn them loose. Imagine the fun as dazed and confused innocents start turning up at the airports or other transportation hubs with those things in them... If trendlines continue, they will happen. Even if only as experiments to see if they can make it work.

Personally, I think we should have Gone Roman(TM) on every nation, ethnic group, or party that even attempted mass terrorist actions as a means to influence things. The end state of our permissiveness in letting this tactic come into common use isn't even worth considering, because it's going to be monumentally ugly––As in, literally needing a colonoscopy and MRI before boarding public transportation. It's not just going to be "Did you pack your bags yourself, and have they been under your control continuously?", it's going to be "Do you know where you've been since your last checkup? Have you been conscious the whole time? Any unaccounted-for periods of non-awareness, Mr. Smith?".

Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:14:34 PM EDT
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Unless the wand sniffers have been upgraded the past few years, laundry soap residue will give a false positive. Make sure your washing machine has a good rinse cycle.
Heh, I didn't know that. They didn't pick anything up on me, thankfully.

 


I was told that by a TSA screener once. IDK if it's true nor not. I do know that Glycerin based soaps and lotions will cause a false positive, so it's possible that's what the screener meant.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:20:41 PM EDT
[#22]
TSA is abusive and the intrusions have become too great. I'll take my chances with a plane bomb rather than have some body cavity search just because I was selected at random.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:23:16 PM EDT
[#23]
i am literally going to laugh my ass off when someone eats a whole bunch of beans and stank ass indian food and loads up on exlax and then goes through the line, consents to the cavity search and shits all over the TSA guy. i would pay good money to see that come true.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:25:59 PM EDT
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Quoted:
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Looking up a terrorists ass won't find surgically implanted explosives in a terroists abdomen.

Now what? Everyone gets an MRI moments before they fly? I think not.


""We are treating the information seriously," John Pistole, administrator of the Transportation Security Administration, told ABC News in 2011.

Asiri placed a bomb inside the rectal cavity of his brother"

Serious shit. Gives new meaning to the words "Explosive Diarrhea"



I was referring to this part from the article:

"Medical experts say there is plenty of room in the stomach area of the body for surgically implanted explosives. "The surgeon would open the abdominal cavity and literally implant the explosive device in amongst the internal organs," explained Dr. Mark Melrose, a New York emergency medicine specialist.

For the last year, U.S. and European authorities have publicly warned that al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), al Qaeda's Yemeni affiliate, and its master bomb-maker, Ibrahim al-Asiri, have been designing body bombs with no metal parts to get past airport security."


This would be difficult to detect even for a GC/MS type detector.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:26:37 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:28:07 PM EDT
[#26]
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i am literally going to laugh my ass off when someone eats a whole bunch of beans and stank ass indian food and loads up on exlax and then goes through the line, consents to the cavity search and shits all over the TSA guy. i would pay good money to see that come true.


I was thinking deviled eggs, some ham, a couple burritos, and a beer.  That way if the exlax didn't work...I'd still fumigate the place.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:28:50 PM EDT
[#27]
31 replies, 0 were for getting finger-fucked for security.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:29:17 PM EDT
[#28]
I refused the scanner on my recent trip to Tennesse.
Got my balls felt up coming and going.
And they checked the gloves for explosive residue.
Cheap thrills.

But I did get to take fire on an airplane.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:38:42 PM EDT
[#29]
Odd.

Wonder why they wouldnt follow the Israeli model?

Thats right, common sense is banned.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:41:01 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:41:53 PM EDT
[#31]
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:44:27 PM EDT
[#32]
Heimat Sicherheit Dienst.  Doing things the Gestapo, the SS, the Cheka, NKVD, KGB and other totalitarians didn't do.   Seig Heil!
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:45:05 PM EDT
[#33]
America has the government it deserves.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:45:16 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
i am literally going to laugh my ass off when someone eats a whole bunch of beans and stank ass indian food and loads up on exlax and then goes through the line, consents to the cavity search and shits all over the TSA guy. i would pay good money to see that come true.




WTF lol
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:46:53 PM EDT
[#35]
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America has the government it deserves.


Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:47:03 PM EDT
[#36]
I'm sure they wouldn't like what they found.  
 
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:47:10 PM EDT
[#37]
I think the TSA is about to officially overtake the IRS as the most-hated federal agency.


Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:47:16 PM EDT
[#38]
If I can avoid it, I will never fly again.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:50:47 PM EDT
[#39]
What's easier to pull off? 1)Surgery implant an explosive device into a person, hope they don't die during recovery or have a premature detonation on their way onto an airplane. 2) carry out a "No Russian" style attack on an TSA checkpoint?



The easier of the 2 is also the most impossible to defense against and would cause more damange.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:52:24 PM EDT
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Quoted:

What's easier to pull off? 1)Surgery implant an explosive device into a person, hope they don't die during recovery or have a premature detonation on their way onto an airplane. 2) carry out a "No Russian" style attack on an TSA checkpoint?



The easier of the 2 is also the most impossible to defense against and would cause more damange.




That's easy... they will just scan poeple before getting to the scanners.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:52:53 PM EDT
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Thankfully, We have body scanners to deter these kinds of action

 


Does the body scanner actually X Ray you or just show what is under your clothes?
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:53:04 PM EDT
[#42]
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On my way back from Australia in 2006, I had an explosive trace test done on my clothes (randomly pulled out of the queue). I wonder if they will start doing more of those.    


Last time I flew, I refused to opt-in to the naked porn cancer scanner.  After the joke of a "pat down", the "agent" rubbed his gloves with a wipe and put it in a Bomb-O-Meter.

I will not go through the backscatter machine again.  I'm really not sure which method would allow me to smuggle more "contraband" on board, but both the pat down and the scanner are both pretty easily defeated.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:53:52 PM EDT
[#43]
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i no logner plan to ever fly or travel anywhere i can not drive again. no longer need it for business and have no desire to travel anymore.

fuck the airlines and fuck the tsa.


This.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:54:29 PM EDT
[#44]
I can see myself traveling less and less.

Or driving more and vacationing closer to home.

Fuck the TSA.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:56:04 PM EDT
[#45]
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Odd.

Wonder why they wouldnt follow the Israeli model?

Thats right, common sense is banned.


Because that requires having intelligent, educated, highly trained professionals who know what they're doing.  Far better to hire tens of thousands of mindless thugs who'll vote correctly and pretty much follow any order you give them.  Especially when you don't actually care about "security", because every "breach" gives you more excuse to grab more power, increase your funding, and scare off any opposition.

Believe me... they want "incidents".  The worst possible thing that could happen for them would be a year with no scares.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 4:58:23 PM EDT
[#46]
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i no logner plan to ever fly or travel anywhere i can not drive again. no longer need it for business and have no desire to travel anymore.

fuck the airlines and fuck the tsa.


FYI, they're conducting drills and activities on the highway system now too.

ETA: I don't fly anymore for this very reason. I refuse to send the message that this is ok. On the odd day I have to fly to get somewhere, I'll opt for the pat-down, but I don't know what I will do when I have children. Fondle me? Fine. I'll give you a cigarette when you're done. Fondle my child? It's fo time.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 5:10:53 PM EDT
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Thankfully, We have body scanners to deter these kinds of action

 


Does the body scanner actually X Ray you or just show what is under your clothes?


they are going to"UP the radiation" so they will be like a normal X ray i bet.
i wonder how healthy that is for those going through it or those working around the machines 8 hours a day.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 5:13:47 PM EDT
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Quoted:



Quoted:

Thankfully, We have body scanners to deter these kinds of action



 




Does the body scanner actually X Ray you or just show what is under your clothes?










 
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 5:14:44 PM EDT
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Quoted:



Quoted:



Quoted:

Thankfully, We have body scanners to deter these kinds of action







Does the body scanner actually X Ray you or just show what is under your clothes?




they are going to"UP the radiation" so they will be like a normal X ray i bet.

i wonder how healthy that is for those going through it or those working around the machines 8 hours a day.







TSA agents are already bitching out getting cancer from those machines.
Link Posted: 4/30/2012 5:25:03 PM EDT
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You know, this is pretty close to doing that...

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