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Hillarys fault, she just cleaning up the SS before she runs for VP.
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Bush's fault. Yeah, I saw it... I never met a Colombian hooker who didn't shave it bald. |
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Add 5 members of the US Military to the mix. They're confined to quarters in the hotel. Link: Five members of the U.S. military may have taken part with Secret Service agents in misconduct involving prostitutes at a hotel in Cartagena,and have been confined to their quarters for violating curfew. EOD support? |
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Add 5 members of the US Military to the mix. They're confined to quarters in the hotel. Link: Five members of the U.S. military may have taken part with Secret Service agents in misconduct involving prostitutes at a hotel in Cartagena,and have been confined to their quarters for violating curfew. EOD support? MWD |
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Maybe we need to start taking our own whores with the presidential entourage.
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Ummmm....I thought it was hard to be a SS guy, and your shit had to be locked on with personality profiles and everything.
If anyone here works for SS HR and wants somone who won't fuck hookers with the rest of the group, give me a ring. |
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I don't believe this story one bit, something else is going on. The usss employs people. Humans nature is inevitable. I'm sure that advance teams have had all sorts of shenanigans in the past, but we don't live in the old days where you can get away with boys will be boys behavior anymore. |
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Quoted: I was assistant team leader for our squadron's deployment to Tocumen Airbase for the November 2005 SOA trip. The logistical train alone was impressive: 6 F-15s for CAP from the 1st FW out of Langley, K-135 from Illinois Air Guard, C-17 from, somewhere, plus a spare for the vehicle entourage. AWACS out of Tinker IIRC. Marine One, which had hitched a ride on the C-17, plus its contingent of Marines, a State Department C-40 with SD staff and assorted spooks, AF 1 and backup, etc. Plus a 757 from United carrying the press pool. The 820th guys from Moody AFB guarded AF1, we provided security for the F-15s, tankers, and airlifters. I was not terribly impressed by the 820th guys, who are usually very professional. Much of SS advon consists of the security team, but also "retired" agents who secure the vehicles and do other mundane tasks leaving the ST guys to take care of business. Willing to bet it was one of the horny old goats who screwed the pooch, as it were. Now that's an entourage. Does the President routinely travel with a CAP when leaving the US? |
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As I understand it, being SS on Obama's detail is no picnic. Obama apparently doesn't like the SS or what it stands for (An America he wants to see transformed into a communist shithole) and the lack of love between Obama and the SS is apparently quite mutual. So, the SS certainly is lacking a morally upright role model. Is it any wonder that some of them might not reach the highest goals of integrity and service, given who their boss is and how he acts? Funny, you never heard of such shenanigans going on during the Bush (I or II) years, or the Reagan years. CJ You never hear about 95% of the shenanigans that have gone on because of some use of judgment, some damn fine coverup work, and plain dumb luck. There is a lot of stupid shit that happens among those who tote guns for a living that thankfully the average joe never sees or hears about. Sometimes somebody gets extra stupid and does something like not paying a hooker because fuck you I'm Secret Service and the dumb shit surfaces and dumb fuck behavior that has always gone on now gets hammered with new policies that never function as intended. |
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Add 5 members of the US Military to the mix. They're confined to quarters in the hotel. Link: Five members of the U.S. military may have taken part with Secret Service agents in misconduct involving prostitutes at a hotel in Cartagena,and have been confined to their quarters for violating curfew. EOD support? The article I read said Special Operations Soldiers. If I had to guess, I'd say probably commo guys from a USASOC Signal Bn to provide secure coms. I went to SLC with a guy that claimed he used to do TDY trips plainclothes to provide commo support for SECDEF. Does the Army Signal Corps still have responsibility for the Presidents communications and run the WH phones? |
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Any idea what the Secret Service pays at this level? I understand TSA does not pay their screeners particularly well and ends up with many borderline retarded employees. Considering how many agents were involved with this Columbian deal , I suspect it's not the result of one person's one time only poor decision. I imagine it has happened many times in many places. Is the Secret Service actively looking for and hiring the absolute best employees or have they simply become another government security agency? Also, if they are hiring mostly people considered to the the best of the ATF, FBI, IRS, Capitol Police, Park Service, or other big gov. agencies...well, you could see how this type of careless attitude could easily creep in and corrupt an entire organization over a decade or two. They hire people. People do stupid shit regardless of how demanding your hiring process is. The USSS isn't a cut above any other agency anywhere in terms of the people they hire or the results they get. There are awesome people in the agency and there are dumbfucks too. There are also people who are good at their job but have the personal life decision making skills of a retarded hamster. Throw in numbskull cultural practices (like fucking prostitutes or playing the do you trust me game) and you end up with this sort of thing. I'd guess this is a cultural thing many others have engaged in over the years without getting caught. That makes something "normal" and when you present a "norm" too a group of people you will always have plenty of takers. That they are adults and carry guns means bupkis...peer pressure works just the same. That's how you end up with this, or with SWAT teams that get shitfaced together and then drive home, or police units having drunken orgies, etc. The guys who tell people that such behavior is a fucking stupid idea are the ones who get labeled "not a team player". Some are just fine with that. Some don't want their career limited because they won't take a bj from a girl who is trading the bj for not being charged with the drugs she was caught with. |
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Most of the folks I know that did this type of work just picked up the girls working at the hotels and resturants without resorting to pros. They had it down to a science.
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Pretty fucking lame for the finest security service in the world.
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Most of the folks I know that did this type of work just picked up the girls working at the hotels and resturants without resorting to pros. They had it down to a science. like the cleaning lady? |
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Hookers the world over normally take good care of their customers. If what was reported is true then at least one of these guys broke an unwritten international law by not paying for her services. A customer can do a lot of shit but don't mess with her rice bowl.
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I was assistant team leader for our squadron's deployment to Tocumen Airbase for the November 2005 SOA trip. The logistical train alone was impressive: 6 F-15s for CAP from the 1st FW out of Langley, K-135 from Illinois Air Guard, C-17 from, somewhere, plus a spare for the vehicle entourage. AWACS out of Tinker IIRC. Marine One, which had hitched a ride on the C-17, plus its contingent of Marines, a State Department C-40 with SD staff and assorted spooks, AF 1 and backup, etc. Plus a 757 from United carrying the press pool. The 820th guys from Moody AFB guarded AF1, we provided security for the F-15s, tankers, and airlifters. I was not terribly impressed by the 820th guys, who are usually very professional. Much of SS advon consists of the security team, but also "retired" agents who secure the vehicles and do other mundane tasks leaving the ST guys to take care of business. Willing to bet it was one of the horny old goats who screwed the pooch, as it were. Now that's an entourage. Does the President routinely travel with a CAP when leaving the US? Yes, and No. Since Panama was a long term stop, and because Colombia was just a stones throw away we had a bigger "footprint". Also it's based upon intel/threat assesment. Don't ask me anymore or I'll have to whip out a recipe a la LimaXray. |
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So an American, no matter where he is, must follow the laws of America and those of the goverment where he actually is? A violation of something illegal in America, even if done in Canada, japan, germany can be prosecuted in a US court? Say prosecute an American tourist for speeding, on the auto-ban? Prosecute an American tourist for SBS violations for handling a 14" shotgun in a Toronto gun store? That the courts would tolerate such is crazy. The US will prosecute you for sex tourism. They also tried to put the Blackwater guys on trial for murder here for something that happened in Iraq. |
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So an American, no matter where he is, must follow the laws of America and those of the goverment where he actually is? A violation of something illegal in America, even if done in Canada, japan, germany can be prosecuted in a US court? Say prosecute an American tourist for speeding, on the auto-ban? Prosecute an American tourist for SBS violations for handling a 14" shotgun in a Toronto gun store? That the courts would tolerate such is crazy. The US will prosecute you for sex tourism. They also tried to put the Blackwater guys on trial for murder here for something that happened in Iraq. Only for an underage minor. |
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No more like the women at the front desk, hostesses, waitresses...... As a young engineering working with thee guys a learned a lot.
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Most of the folks I know that did this type of work just picked up the girls working at the hotels and restaurants without resorting to pros. They had it down to a science. like the cleaning lady? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So an American, no matter where he is, must follow the laws of America and those of the goverment where he actually is? A violation of something illegal in America, even if done in Canada, japan, germany can be prosecuted in a US court? Say prosecute an American tourist for speeding, on the auto-ban? Prosecute an American tourist for SBS violations for handling a 14" shotgun in a Toronto gun store? That the courts would tolerate such is crazy. The US will prosecute you for sex tourism. They also tried to put the Blackwater guys on trial for murder here for something that happened in Iraq. Only for an underage minor. Yep. From wiki: Under the PROTECT Act of April 2003, it is a federal crime, prosecutable in the United States, for a U.S. citizen or permanent resident alien, to engage in illicit sexual conduct in a foreign country with a person under the age of 18, whether or not the U.S. citizen or lawful permanent resident alien intended to engage in such illicit sexual conduct prior to going abroad. For purposes of the PROTECT Act, illicit sexual conduct includes any commercial sex act in a foreign country with a person under the age of 18. The law defines a commercial sex act as any sex act, on account of which anything of value is given to or received by a person under the age of 18.[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sex_tourism#cite_note-41][42][/url] Before congressional passage of the Protect Act of 2003, prosecutors had to prove that sex tourists went abroad with the intent of molesting children—something almost impossible to demonstrate. The Protect Act shifted the burden, making predators liable for the act itself. Penalties were doubled from 15 years in prison to 30.[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sex_tourism#cite_note-gerson-6][7][/url] |
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Most of the folks I know that did this type of work just picked up the girls working at the hotels and resturants without resorting to pros. They had it down to a science. Yep, plenty of free out there. I did two Presidential Support missions; one to Nicaragua/El Salvador for Clinton, and one to Sweden for Bush. I much preferred Central America over Sweden, plus it was a longer TDY. Original mission was the Banner, but it got put on hold, but we went down anyway for Humanitarian relief support. After that was done we sat around for a week with nothing to do until the Banner kicked off. After Clinton left we were stuck there with no available airlift except for a C5 crew that took us as far as El Salvador to meet up with our other guys. We hung out there waiting around for another plane that could take us all the way back home. No, we didn't just sit around doing nothing, we went out on the town. Hell during the month before Clinton came in we were the only Americans, other then missionaries, in Managua. Once we got the heads up that the Banner was kicking off and started to receive the helos, comm, and Limos, the "American" population of Managua blossomed. SS, WHCA, then the WH Press corps flooded the bars and clubs. I will say that El Salvador has some very nice strip clubs, and yes they also were prostitutes that you could pay for, but I don't know of anyone who did. I'm kind of surprised the hotel actually allowed a local in, most of the upper-class hotels I have stayed in in Central/South America don't allow locals in. Sweden was a little more subdued and civilian clothes only. But for us, since we got there a couple weeks before anybody else, had a good time being the only Americans in town. Then again, the SS, and WHCA came in and flooded the bars. I would say that that trip was more subdued because of the protests and riots. This whole story is being blown way out of proportion. Like another poster said; you don't hear about the stuff that goes on until somebody fucks up. |
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We also have to keep perspective on this. They were only protecting Obama after all.
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Secret Service revokes security clearance for agents in prostitution probe, Pentagon 'embarrassed'
The Secret Service has revoked the security clearances for the 11 agents accused of misconduct over a prostitution scandal in Colombia –– as the Pentagon looks at broadening its own investigation into the incident, which the top U.S. military official calls an embarrassment. The fallout from the alleged misconduct has spread across both the Secret Service and the U.S. military. On the Secret Service side, a senior law enforcement official confirmed to Fox News that all 11 who were recalled and placed on administrative leave have had their clearances revoke. The official added that among the 11 are two supervisors and three members of the counter-assault team, indicating that senior officials are involved. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/16/pentagon-may-expand-probe-military-members-in-colombia-amid-prostitution/?test=latestnews#ixzz1sIW8tzez If they survive with a job welcome to working check fruad in Fairbanks. |
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Up to 21 women brought to Colombia hotel by agents and military members, senator says
Secret Service agents and members of the U.S. military brought as many as 21 women back to their hotel during their assignment to Colombia last week, a top senator briefed on the prostitution scandal said Tuesday. With 11 Secret Service agents and 10 military servicemembers allegedly involved, the account raises the possibility that everyone accused of misconduct could have tried to sneak women back to their rooms. Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, the top Republican on the Senate homeland security committee, revealed the details after she was briefed for a half-hour Monday night by Secret Service Director Mark Sullivan. Collins said she learned that U.S. Marines, as well as the 11 Secret Service agents now on administrative leave, were allegedly involved. "There are 11 agents involved. Twenty or 21 women foreign nationals were brought to the hotel, but allegedly Marines were involved with the rest," Collins said in a statement. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/17/up-to-21-women-brought-to-colombia-hotel-by-agents-and-military-members-senator/#ixzz1sK370Daq Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/17/up-to-21-women-brought-to-colombia-hotel-by-agents-and-military-members-senator/#ixzz1sK2wQ8NF |
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Up to 21 women brought to Colombia hotel by agents and military members, senator says Secret Service agents and members of the U.S. military brought as many as 21 women back to their hotel during their assignment to Colombia last week, a top senator briefed on the prostitution scandal said Tuesday. With 11 Secret Service agents and 10 military servicemembers allegedly involved, the account raises the possibility that everyone accused of misconduct could have tried to sneak women back to their rooms. Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, the top Republican on the Senate homeland security committee, revealed the details after she was briefed for a half-hour Monday night by Secret Service Director Mark Sullivan. Collins said she learned that U.S. Marines, as well as the 11 Secret Service agents now on administrative leave, were allegedly involved. "There are 11 agents involved. Twenty or 21 women foreign nationals were brought to the hotel, but allegedly Marines were involved with the rest," Collins said in a statement. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/17/up-to-21-women-brought-to-colombia-hotel-by-agents-and-military-members-senator/#ixzz1sK370Daq Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/17/up-to-21-women-brought-to-colombia-hotel-by-agents-and-military-members-senator/#ixzz1sK2wQ8NF WHLOs doing a great job I see |
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You would think with a name like Secret Service - They would know how to get serviced secretly!
Bill O'Reilly Show tonight... I about fell off my chair laughing!!! |
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I saw where it is 5 Army, including some Green Berets, a couple Navy, an Airman, and a couple Marines. Looks like they were spreading the love around evenly.
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Personnel Reliability Program
When I was .mil, there was this program called the Personal Reliability Program, or PRP. If you were in PRP, you could be dismissed from your assignment for essentially any reason. Anything. Or Nothing. The point of the program was basically that your job was so sensitive that only people worthy of extraordinary trust could be allowed to do it. Damage the command's trust in you and you were gone. Bringing public discredit to ones command was generally considered a breach of PRP. Although putatively designed for speacial weapons programs, PRP extended well beyond weapons programs. I'm sure the USSS has something very similar. |
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I heard that Ted Nugent and the 22 SS agents are going to film a documentary music video on a hilltop. They're going to recreate that "I'm going to buy the world some Coke" ad from decades ago...
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I see we have a few french fry jockeys in this thread who think this is perfectly ok for SS agents to behave like this. Tell you what, when McDonald's sends you to Colombia to train the people down there to make fries, then go ahead, get some hookers. People who have serious jobs need to act professional. Did your boyfriend cheat on you with a Colombian hooker? Sorry to offend you. I'm sure you will be promoted soon to making the salads. No offense, your salad tossing job is safe. Maybe you'll grow up and realize not everyone is a puritan prude about sex. It has nothing to do with being a puritan prude, which I'm quite far from. It has everything to do with taking one's job seriously. Protecting the President is a very serious job, regardless of how much of a turd he may be. If the agents were on vacation, I would be all for them getting some 'tang. However, they were there on business. Very important business. On the taxpayer's dime no less. Why these points escape some people is incredible to me. They've never had a serious enough job. Not saying they aren't paid well or even uneducated. They just haven't experienced it or realize what is important. |
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If they're not married, I don't see a problem getting some poon. It's not illegal there. The GD basement dwellers would go full tard on a drumset for some fine latin pie. I trust the SS to keep their mouth shut about security procedures. Hypocrisy is strong in this thread. Because of human trafficking laws, the usage of prostitution is illegal for those under US law even when overseas. This hit US service member quite often, even in places were prostitution is legal. It's illegal for an American to use a prostitute in a country where it's lawfull? That's crazy and if true a bigger infringement than obamacare. Jurisdiction stops at the national border. So I don't have to pay taxes for money I earned in Qatar? If you don't bring it back to the US....then no. If you bring your hooker back you would get in a bit of trouble as well. |
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As I understand it, being SS on Obama's detail is no picnic. Obama apparently doesn't like the SS or what it stands for (An America he wants to see transformed into a communist shithole) and the lack of love between Obama and the SS is apparently quite mutual. So, the SS certainly is lacking a morally upright role model. Is it any wonder that some of them might not reach the highest goals of integrity and service, given who their boss is and how he acts? Funny, you never heard of such shenanigans going on during the Bush (I or II) years, or the Reagan years. CJ Grown men can see an asshole and choose to go the other way morally. Obame being an idiot is no excuse for grown men. |
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Sitting on a couch in her living room wearing a short jean skirt, http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/19/world/americas/colombian-escort-speaks-about-secret-service-scandal.html?_r=2&hphigh-heeled espadrilles and a tight spandex top with a plunging neckline, the woman described how she and a girlfriend were approached by a group of American men at a discotheque. Pics? |
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If they're not married, I don't see a problem getting some poon. It's not illegal there. The GD basement dwellers would go full tard on a drumset for some fine latin pie. I trust the SS to keep their mouth shut about security procedures. Hypocrisy is strong in this thread. Because of human trafficking laws, the usage of prostitution is illegal for those under US law even when overseas. This hit US service member quite often, even in places were prostitution is legal. It's illegal for an American to use a prostitute in a country where it's lawfull? That's crazy and if true a bigger infringement than obamacare. Jurisdiction stops at the national border. So I don't have to pay taxes for money I earned in Qatar? If you don't bring it back to the US....then no. If you bring your hooker back you would get in a bit of trouble as well. Actually if you're an American citizen, you do have to pay taxes on overseas earnings, whether you "bring it back" or not. |
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3 out at Secret Service in prostitution scandal
DEVELOPING: Three Secret Service employees are leaving in the prostitution scandal that has rocked the agency, and eight other employees remain on administrative leave, the agency announced Tuesday evening. One supervisor was allowed to retire, and another faces termination proceedings. The third, a non-supervisory employee, resigned, the agency said. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/18/federal-official-secret-service-firings-coming-resignations-already/#ixzz1sQz8gnl5 Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/18/federal-official-secret-service-firings-coming-resignations-already/#ixzz1sQyw5tc9 |
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It was legal there so what concern is it of the Secret Service what their agents are doing on their free time if it's legal? Is it their bosses jobs to be their wives? I mean hey, the married ones broke God's Commandment and their vows, but that's between them and God. Imagine that you have a job that is of a high security nature, one in which people's lives as well as the fate of nations depends on your integrity and the integrity of your performance. Now start behaving in a manner that gives someone the opportunity to blackmail you. See the problem now? Have we heard these guys were married? Why is this news? Ex-military bad ass types seen with hookers in foreign country, wow, never heard of that this is pure politics. Who was it that said: "show me a guy that don't F#CK and I'll show you a guy that won't fight !!!!!!!!' |
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New low ‘blow’: Coke eyed at Secret Service ho-down Cocaine and several bottles of whiskey apparently fueled the elite agents’ boneheaded fling with about 20 hookers at a posh hotel in Cartagena, Colombia, a hotel staffer told The Post. The employee responded to the trashed room with police and other Hotel El Caribe workers when one prostitute raised hell after a Secret Service member initially refused to pay her. “When I went upstairs I walked into a messy room. The room was littered with two whiskey bottles — and a line of white powder, I believed to be cocaine, was on top of a round glass table in the room,” the staffer told The Post... http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/new_low_blow_VCZSU5Mmdn2nzzkLPMIR4H#ixzz1sR7x1Xwi |
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