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Posted: 4/12/2012 2:23:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/12/2012 2:25:31 PM EDT by Doc_Peck]
I know Nick Fury is packing a M+P in the upcoming Avengers film, and was nerdishly excited when I saw the ad for the M+P Shield on Facebook earlier today. Sadly it's just a single stack concealable verson and not emblazoned with the SHIELD logo. :(

Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:23:51 PM EDT
There's a single stack M&P??
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:25:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/12/2012 2:28:01 PM EDT by unseenSNIPER]
Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
There's a single stack M&P??


Not a true single stack; the magazine is like 1-1/2 cartridges wide.

The Shield’s magazine isn’t a true single column magazine—in fact, it is about a cartridge-and-a-half wide, except where it narrows at the top. I spoke to one of the engineers who told me they didn’t go with a true single column magazine to avoid issues with rim lock. This slightly wider magazine, however, allows for a little more capacity in a pistol that is a mere 4.6-inches tall.


http://www.handgunsmag.com/2012/04/12/introducing-the-smith-wesson-mp-shield/

Kinda reminds me of the 45GAP
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:25:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/12/2012 2:26:51 PM EDT by www-glock19-com]
yeah just got um this am
SW part # is 180021

a lot like a walther PPS but seems slightly shorter in the barrel


Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:25:49 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
There's a single stack M&P??


Yup just released today. 8+1 single stack available in either 9mm or .40
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:26:58 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:27:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By tysonu74:
Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
There's a single stack M&P??


Yup just released today. 8+1 single stack available in either 9mm or .40


Not a single stack but still slimmer than a double stack mag.
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:27:48 PM EDT
Originally Posted By tysonu74:
Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
There's a single stack M&P??


Yup just released today. 8+1 single stack available in either 9mm or .40


Nice, but does it have the same width slide and frame as the double stack models?

I'm very interested in the Bersa BP9CC, as it is a slender single stack 9mm striker fired polymer framed gun... but a single stack, SLENDER M&P would have a very good shot at getting my money.
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:28:12 PM EDT

Logo looks like balls...literally.

Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:28:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/12/2012 2:29:33 PM EDT by www-glock19-com]

Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:

Nice, but does it have the same width slide and frame as the double stack models?


No
it is like 3/4 as thick

Im kinda liking it , might get one
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:28:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
yeah just got um this am
SW part # is 180021

a lot like a walther PPS but seems slightly shorter in the barrel

http://i39.tinypic.com/vqnyqd.jpg

Would you happen to have a Glock 26 laying around that you could put next to that?
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:28:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
Originally Posted By tysonu74:
Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
There's a single stack M&P??


Yup just released today. 8+1 single stack available in either 9mm or .40


Nice, but does it have the same width slide and frame as the double stack models?

I'm very interested in the Bersa BP9CC, as it is a slender single stack 9mm striker fired polymer framed gun... but a single stack, SLENDER M&P would have a very good shot at getting my money.


Think the whole pistol is slimmer overall but the grip is designed to mimic the medium sized grip of a full size M&P. I just skimmed over the article and didn't pay attention to the details.
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:31:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/12/2012 2:32:21 PM EDT by SevenMaryThree]
Shoulda made a longer grip / barrel.
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:32:35 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Cnacki77:

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
yeah just got um this am
SW part # is 180021

a lot like a walther PPS but seems slightly shorter in the barrel

http://i39.tinypic.com/vqnyqd.jpg

Would you happen to have a Glock 26 laying around that you could put next to that?


And perhaps a PF9 Keltec on the other side? . Would love to see some size comparison shots with well known subcompact and "pocket" guns.
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:32:40 PM EDT
Originally Posted By unseenSNIPER:
Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
Originally Posted By tysonu74:
Originally Posted By Matthew_Q:
There's a single stack M&P??


Yup just released today. 8+1 single stack available in either 9mm or .40


Nice, but does it have the same width slide and frame as the double stack models?

I'm very interested in the Bersa BP9CC, as it is a slender single stack 9mm striker fired polymer framed gun... but a single stack, SLENDER M&P would have a very good shot at getting my money.


Think the whole pistol is slimmer overall but the grip is designed to mimic the medium sized grip of a full size M&P. I just skimmed over the article and didn't pay attention to the details.



I checked the site, it only shows the frame width. It is .95". The full size 9mm frame is 1.2". Doesn't mention the slide.

I really REALLY really want something single stack that is more slender than my G19's slide, which is, IIRC, around 1". I'll have to keep my eyes out for the M&P Shield, and maybe finger fuck one.
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:32:49 PM EDT


M&P Needle Gun?
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:34:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Cnacki77:

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
yeah just got um this am
SW part # is 180021

a lot like a walther PPS but seems slightly shorter in the barrel

http://i39.tinypic.com/vqnyqd.jpg

Would you happen to have a Glock 26 laying around that you could put next to that?

sure





Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:36:24 PM EDT
Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:

Originally Posted By Cnacki77:

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
yeah just got um this am
SW part # is 180021

a lot like a walther PPS but seems slightly shorter in the barrel

http://i39.tinypic.com/vqnyqd.jpg

Would you happen to have a Glock 26 laying around that you could put next to that?

sure

http://i39.tinypic.com/sm64a0.jpg


http://i42.tinypic.com/1247xco.jpg


Holy shit, do like!

Like someone mentioned above, I would like one with a slightly longer barrel and slightly longer grip. I just want it to be thin. Heck, a single stack, THIN G19 would be perfect. The 'fatness' of the G19 is what I don't like.
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:36:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:

Originally Posted By Cnacki77:

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
yeah just got um this am
SW part # is 180021

a lot like a walther PPS but seems slightly shorter in the barrel

http://i39.tinypic.com/vqnyqd.jpg

Would you happen to have a Glock 26 laying around that you could put next to that?

sure

http://i39.tinypic.com/sm64a0.jpg


http://i42.tinypic.com/1247xco.jpg

Thanks Buddy!

I appreciate it.
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:36:41 PM EDT
Wow that is slimmer
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:39:38 PM EDT
OK, not THAT knid of furry then
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:40:51 PM EDT
hmmmm, I'll have to check it out at the NRA show
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:41:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By OiRogers:
Originally Posted By Cnacki77:

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
yeah just got um this am
SW part # is 180021

a lot like a walther PPS but seems slightly shorter in the barrel

http://i39.tinypic.com/vqnyqd.jpg

Would you happen to have a Glock 26 laying around that you could put next to that?


And perhaps a PF9 Keltec on the other side? . Would love to see some size comparison shots with well known subcompact and "pocket" guns.





Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:43:43 PM EDT
Do they come without manual safeties?
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:45:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/12/2012 2:56:17 PM EDT by davisac]


eta: and only $450 msrp compared to $570 for the M&Ps.
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:51:22 PM EDT

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:

Originally Posted By Cnacki77:

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
yeah just got um this am
SW part # is 180021

a lot like a walther PPS but seems slightly shorter in the barrel

http://i39.tinypic.com/vqnyqd.jpg

Would you happen to have a Glock 26 laying around that you could put next to that?

sure

http://i39.tinypic.com/sm64a0.jpg


http://i42.tinypic.com/1247xco.jpg

Wow.
The tech specs on the mfr's sites state there is only 8mm difference in frame thickness.
But it seems to be more than that...


Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:53:01 PM EDT
That is so gey! A single stack of fail!












Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:54:20 PM EDT
Originally Posted By whomper:

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:

Originally Posted By Cnacki77:

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
yeah just got um this am
SW part # is 180021

a lot like a walther PPS but seems slightly shorter in the barrel

http://i39.tinypic.com/vqnyqd.jpg

Would you happen to have a Glock 26 laying around that you could put next to that?

sure

http://i39.tinypic.com/sm64a0.jpg


http://i42.tinypic.com/1247xco.jpg

Wow.
The tech specs on the mfr's sites state there is only 8mm difference in frame thickness.
But it seems to be more than that...




EVERY mm counts for IWB carry

if Glock could shave 1.5mm of of the G19, I'd buy 6 of them
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:54:46 PM EDT
Damn that is thin! I am really looking forward to handling one at the NRA show this weekend. My local gun store say they have a few coming in, I might just have to stop in and put my name on one....
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:54:48 PM EDT
I carried a Kahr pm9 but wanted to bump up the firepower. It's not that much bigger but man did I notice the increased thickness. I actually had to get bigger pants. I think I may have to look into this guy, as I love the M&P series.
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:57:06 PM EDT
Nice pistol.
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 2:57:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Originally Posted By whomper:

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:

Originally Posted By Cnacki77:

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
yeah just got um this am
SW part # is 180021

a lot like a walther PPS but seems slightly shorter in the barrel

http://i39.tinypic.com/vqnyqd.jpg

Would you happen to have a Glock 26 laying around that you could put next to that?

sure

http://i39.tinypic.com/sm64a0.jpg


http://i42.tinypic.com/1247xco.jpg

Wow.
The tech specs on the mfr's sites state there is only 8mm difference in frame thickness.
But it seems to be more than that...




EVERY mm counts for IWB carry

if Glock could shave 1.5mm of of the G19, I'd buy 6 of them
Glock can't even handle adding backstraps and dual recoil springs to their line up. I don't think they could make a reliable single stack.

Link Posted: 4/12/2012 3:08:59 PM EDT
This looks promising.
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 3:19:05 PM EDT
Wow... I might have to check these out. This is the gun GLOCK owners have been asking GLOCK to make for YEARS! I see threads all the time on GLOCKTALK where people ask for a single stack 9mm that is roughly between the size of the GLOCK 19 and 26.

Looks like Smith and Wesson wins this one! Being a long time GLOCK owner (Glock 17, 19, 22, 23, 26 and 30) I can honestly say the M&P is a far superior firearm. I have the M&P9 and the M&P45 Mid-Compact and they are just SO much more comfortable then any of my GLOCK's. GLOCK's new Gen 4 was just an epic fail, if you go GLOCK, the Gen 3 is the only way to go but I don't know that would ever get another GLOCK now that the M&P's are out.

Just my .02$ cents.
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 3:23:03 PM EDT

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:

Originally Posted By Cnacki77:

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
yeah just got um this am
SW part # is 180021

a lot like a walther PPS but seems slightly shorter in the barrel

http://i39.tinypic.com/vqnyqd.jpg

Would you happen to have a Glock 26 laying around that you could put next to that?

sure

http://i39.tinypic.com/sm64a0.jpg


http://i42.tinypic.com/1247xco.jpg

how about some pics with the standard mag instead of the extended one?
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 3:34:30 PM EDT
Originally Posted By CarbineDad:
OK, not THAT knid of furry then


Well, considering he said FuRy, and not fuRRY, yeah it's gonna be a bit different

Link Posted: 4/12/2012 3:38:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/12/2012 3:39:18 PM EDT by DanTSX]
Originally Posted By kingoftheroad:

Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Originally Posted By whomper:

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:

Originally Posted By Cnacki77:

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
yeah just got um this am
SW part # is 180021

a lot like a walther PPS but seems slightly shorter in the barrel

http://i39.tinypic.com/vqnyqd.jpg

Would you happen to have a Glock 26 laying around that you could put next to that?

sure

http://i39.tinypic.com/sm64a0.jpg


http://i42.tinypic.com/1247xco.jpg

Wow.
The tech specs on the mfr's sites state there is only 8mm difference in frame thickness.
But it seems to be more than that...




EVERY mm counts for IWB carry

if Glock could shave 1.5mm of of the G19, I'd buy 6 of them
Glock can't even handle adding backstraps and dual recoil springs to their line up. I don't think they could make a reliable single stack.



I'm sure they could. But, to be fair, nobody has proven that S&W can either. This gun could be as reliable as their other M&P's or it can be an epic failure. Time will tell.

They did a single-stack .45ACP subcompact just fine.

Hell, they could easily shave a few mm off of the existing G19 or G26. Those guns are pretty overbuilt, and beefy for what they are.

Link Posted: 4/12/2012 3:43:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/12/2012 3:44:21 PM EDT by OiRogers]
Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:

Originally Posted By OiRogers:
Originally Posted By Cnacki77:

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
yeah just got um this am
SW part # is 180021

a lot like a walther PPS but seems slightly shorter in the barrel

http://i39.tinypic.com/vqnyqd.jpg

Would you happen to have a Glock 26 laying around that you could put next to that?


And perhaps a PF9 Keltec on the other side? . Would love to see some size comparison shots with well known subcompact and "pocket" guns.

http://i43.tinypic.com/206bgwg.jpg


http://i43.tinypic.com/wwg9jq.jpg


Thanks!

I think I'm sold.

Was pondering retiring my LC9 and PF9 for a Kahr... Think my cash will end up in SW coffers now.
Edit to add: this is now the most useful Shield thread on the entire interwebz.

Link Posted: 4/12/2012 3:49:21 PM EDT

They didn't have M&P's in 1998:



Yes, that is Baywatch star David Hasslhoff.
Link Posted: 4/12/2012 3:52:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By kingoftheroad:

Originally Posted By DanTSX:
Originally Posted By whomper:

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:

Originally Posted By Cnacki77:

Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
yeah just got um this am
SW part # is 180021

a lot like a walther PPS but seems slightly shorter in the barrel

http://i39.tinypic.com/vqnyqd.jpg

Would you happen to have a Glock 26 laying around that you could put next to that?

sure

http://i39.tinypic.com/sm64a0.jpg


http://i42.tinypic.com/1247xco.jpg

Wow.
The tech specs on the mfr's sites state there is only 8mm difference in frame thickness.
But it seems to be more than that...




EVERY mm counts for IWB carry

if Glock could shave 1.5mm of of the G19, I'd buy 6 of them
Glock can't even handle adding backstraps and dual recoil springs to their line up. I don't think they could make a reliable single stack.


they had dual recoil springs on the G26/27 when they first came out and those worked fine. Gen4 is where they screwed up (at least initially)
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