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Makarov92 Just some random Catholic kid... Team Member Joined: Apr 2010  VA, USA Posts: 1930 Feedback: 0% (0)	Posted: 4/1/2012 12:33:00 PM [Last Edit: 4/1/2012 12:33:14 PM by Makarov92] THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT I mean writers, Film makers, artists, comic book creators, and etc. are typically liberal. I know not all of them are, but it seems like many are. For example I've given up comics because they shove this fact down the readers throat.
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tc556guy Member Team Member Joined: Dec 2004  NY, USA Posts: 42792 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 4/1/2012 12:34:41 PM Because conservatives tend to not approach a topic with an open mind?
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MagazineFed Member Joined: Jan 2009  PA, USA Posts: 3303 Feedback: 100% (9) Link To This Post	Posted: 4/1/2012 12:36:15 PM They think with their hearts instead of their brains.
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supdura Member Team Member Joined: Aug 2011  FL, USA Posts: 1931 Feedback: 100% (30) Link To This Post	Posted: 4/1/2012 12:36:27 PM Originally Posted By tc556guy: Because conservatives tend to not approach a topic with an open mind? Oh no you didn't.
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NickySantoro Member Joined: Dec 2004  NJ, USA Posts: 3171 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 4/1/2012 12:42:10 PM Originally Posted By tc556guy: Because conservatives tend to not approach a topic with an open mind? In this instance, "open mind" being a euphemism for a hole in the head.
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TrijiCog R1 Pilot Team Member Joined: Jul 2004  LBR Posts: 9645 Feedback: 100% (21) Link To This Post	Posted: 4/1/2012 12:42:31 PM Originally Posted By tc556guy: Because conservatives tend to not approach a topic with an open mind? I don't know if that's the answer to the op's question,but it is true..LOL
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macman37 The One Man Wrecking Machine Team Member Joined: Mar 2003  MI, USA Posts: 59656 Feedback: 100% (27) Link To This Post	Posted: 4/1/2012 12:46:39 PM It's funny, many are totally liberal, I completely admit it. But I've honestly been SHOCKED by the number of artists I've known, who are open minded enough to go shooting.
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Posted: 4/1/2012 12:49:48 PM Originally Posted By Makarov92: I mean writers, Film makers, artists, comic book creators, and etc. are typically liberal. I know not all of them are, but it seems like many are. For example I've given up comics because they shove this fact down the readers throat. Because leftists are so "open minded" that they'll blackball and destroy the careers of anyone they believe is "conservative"

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Qweevox I practice the art of Zen and who gives a fuck. Team Member Joined: Nov 2008  GA, USA Posts: 3447 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 4/1/2012 12:50:22 PM A bigger question is why are so many liberals AND conservatives Statist
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Qweevox I practice the art of Zen and who gives a fuck. Team Member Joined: Nov 2008  GA, USA Posts: 3448 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 4/1/2012 12:50:42 PM [Last Edit: 4/1/2012 12:51:28 PM by Qweevox] A bigger question is why are so many liberals AND conservatives Statist (Why all of the sudden is it double-tapping?)
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Recusance Member Joined: Apr 2011  NV, USA Posts: 2587 Feedback: 100% (5) Link To This Post	Posted: 4/1/2012 12:51:33 PM Originally Posted By tc556guy: Because conservatives tend to not approach a topic with an open mind? HA! and liberals never shout down anyone with an opposing view that has facts and statistics....
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macman37 The One Man Wrecking Machine Team Member Joined: Mar 2003  MI, USA Posts: 59657 Feedback: 100% (27) Link To This Post	Posted: 4/1/2012 12:51:55 PM Originally Posted By Qweevox: A bigger question is why are so many liberals AND conservatives Statist Bingo.
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Top_Secret Member Team Member Joined: Jun 2001  OH, USA Posts: 3206 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 4/1/2012 12:52:00 PM Originally Posted By tc556guy: Because conservatives tend to not approach a topic with an open mind? Just because our minds aren't so open they are leaking out.
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Posted: 4/1/2012 12:52:25 PM [Last Edit: 4/1/2012 12:54:20 PM by tc556guy] Originally Posted By supdura: Originally Posted By tc556guy: Because conservatives tend to not approach a topic with an open mind? Oh no you didn't. Oh yes I did. Originally Posted By Recusance: Originally Posted By tc556guy: Because conservatives tend to not approach a topic with an open mind? HA! and liberals never shout down anyone with an opposing view that has facts and statistics.... I am well aware of their double standard. However, it's the conservatives who are most notorious for squashing new ideas in the name of" traditional- everything"

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Windustsearch Member Team Member Joined: Mar 2005  WA, USA Posts: 20165 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 4/1/2012 12:52:38 PM [Last Edit: 4/1/2012 12:54:16 PM by Windustsearch] As someone who has made a living drawing (illustrating), I really couldn't tell you why that is. To add to the issue, those types of art (directing, acting, visual, musical, etc.) are all vastly different from each other.
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BlueJames Ron Paul 2012 Team Member Joined: Nov 2005  TWN Posts: 3902 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 4/1/2012 12:52:39 PM They are in touch with their emotions. They see the world through and make decisions based on emotion, not reason.
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epthunter Member Joined: Mar 2006  MI, USA Posts: 298 Feedback: 100% (17) Link To This Post	Posted: 4/1/2012 12:54:36 PM [Last Edit: 4/1/2012 12:55:18 PM by epthunter] It's rather simple really. During our evolution real men(the precursers to conservatives) hunted, fished and fought off invaders. Girly men (precursers to the liberals) stayed back to wash clothes, cook, knit and make pretty things.
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tc556guy Member Team Member Joined: Dec 2004  NY, USA Posts: 42799 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 4/1/2012 12:55:21 PM Originally Posted By BlueJames: They are in touch with their emotions. They see the world through and make decisions based on emotion, not reason. Ha. LIke conservatives don't also base stuff on emotion. Get into a religious argument with one and see whether they argue from facts or faith ( another name for emotion ).
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3rdpig Member Team Member Joined: Sep 2004  AZ, USA Posts: 21393 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 4/1/2012 12:57:19 PM Originally Posted By BlueJames: They are in touch with their emotions. They see the world through and make decisions based on emotion, not reason. I'm going with this. Thinking with their emotions rather than their reason seems to be a hallmark of both artists and the left.
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Taktikos Member Team Member Joined: Aug 2011  MA, USA Posts: 246 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 4/1/2012 1:02:21 PM Originally Posted By hotbiggun42: Artist live an empty life. they contribute nothing and to fill this void they try to make a difference or identify with what they consider to be the unlucky or victims of a unjust society. Either that or too much cocaine Wow.
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Qweevox I practice the art of Zen and who gives a fuck. Team Member Joined: Nov 2008  GA, USA Posts: 3449 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 4/1/2012 1:03:38 PM Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By Qweevox: A bigger question is why are so many liberals AND conservatives Statist Bingo. They can't connect the dots? At what IQ level do people finally get it?
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Posted: 4/1/2012 1:04:15 PM [Last Edit: 4/1/2012 1:07:07 PM by learath] Originally Posted By MagazineFed: They think with their hearts instead of their brains. ETA: Originally Posted By Qweevox: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By Qweevox: A bigger question is why are so many liberals AND conservatives Statist Bingo. They can't connect the dots? At what IQ level do people finally get it? IQ is a tricky concept. It's the ability to think, not the choice to do so.

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QuantumPion Hooray, I'm helping! Team Member Joined: Aug 2004  VA, USA Posts: 2495 Feedback: 100% (16) Link To This Post	Posted: 4/1/2012 1:07:14 PM They probably feel guilty for becoming rich just by doing what they love to do and being good at it. A particular strain of affluenza.
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keroppl （╯°□°）╯︵ Team Member Joined: Mar 2008  TX, USA Posts: 4185 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 4/1/2012 1:08:19 PM Originally Posted By Qweevox: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By Qweevox: A bigger question is why are so many liberals AND conservatives Statist Bingo. They can't connect the dots? At what IQ level do people finally get it? That's a good question. Part of me wishes an IQ test was part of the requirement to vote.
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Posted: 4/1/2012 1:09:44 PM Originally Posted By tc556guy: Originally Posted By BlueJames: They are in touch with their emotions. They see the world through and make decisions based on emotion, not reason. Ha. LIke conservatives don't also base stuff on emotion. Get into a religious argument with one and see whether they argue from facts or faith ( another name for emotion ). Really? You've never argued religion with me then have you...Go back to DU.

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Ragin_Cajun Cuddly as a Crowbar Team Member Joined: Mar 2006  LA, USA Posts: 12575 Feedback: 100% (4) Link To This Post	Posted: 4/1/2012 1:10:17 PM Originally Posted By tc556guy: Because conservatives tend to not approach a topic with an open mind? Are you trying to imply that socialists do? If so, then
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Posted: 4/1/2012 1:11:48 PM Originally Posted By Aiden: Originally Posted By tc556guy: Originally Posted By BlueJames: They are in touch with their emotions. They see the world through and make decisions based on emotion, not reason. Ha. LIke conservatives don't also base stuff on emotion. Get into a religious argument with one and see whether they argue from facts or faith ( another name for emotion ). Really? You've never argued religion with me then have you...Go back to DU. I don't post in DU, and when the topic of Organized Mythology comes up in GD, feelings get hurt and mods get contacted to tell me to not pick on Christianity. In the end, its supporters argue from emotional soapboxes, not facts. No different than the liberals who get hounded here

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110 Member Joined: Jan 2001  VA, USA Posts: 3504 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 4/1/2012 1:13:22 PM Originally Posted By supdura: Originally Posted By tc556guy: Because conservatives tend to not approach a topic with an open mind? Oh no you didn't. LOL and Liberals being "open-minded". That illusion is destroyed once you engage several in a debate. They are'nt much different then any religious fanatic.
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Posted: 4/1/2012 1:15:04 PM Originally Posted By learath: Originally Posted By MagazineFed: They think with their hearts instead of their brains. No, like most people, conservatives included they don't think. They don't understand history, or understand how they absolutely fuck themselves when they give OTHER people power. Here are the facts of life. Humans, like all living things strive for their own selfish interest. ALL HUMANS do this there are no "angels of our better nature" anywhere. They do not exist. Humans, want to do as little as possible to get what they want. Humans, are NEVER satisfied, they always want more. These traits are NOT evil, even though the dogmas of the state would have you think otherwise. People are generally unhappy, because deep down they know these truths, but are taught to deny them, hide them, and treat them as dirty little secrets. They try to make you think YOUR virtue is evil so that they can control you.

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110 Member Joined: Jan 2001  VA, USA Posts: 3505 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 4/1/2012 1:15:06 PM Originally Posted By Qweevox: A bigger question is why are so many liberals AND conservatives Statist Human flaw. Human nature. People know whats best for everyone else. Overprotectivness. stifling personalities.
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tc556guy Member Team Member Joined: Dec 2004  NY, USA Posts: 42802 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 4/1/2012 1:16:10 PM Originally Posted By 110: Originally Posted By Qweevox: A bigger question is why are so many liberals AND conservatives Statist Human flaw. Human nature. People know whats best for everyone else. Overprotectivness. stifling personalities. Whats the alternative? Some version of anarchy?
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Posted: 4/1/2012 1:16:39 PM Originally Posted By tc556guy: Originally Posted By supdura: Originally Posted By tc556guy: Because conservatives tend to not approach a topic with an open mind? Oh no you didn't. Oh yes I did. Originally Posted By Recusance: Originally Posted By tc556guy: Because conservatives tend to not approach a topic with an open mind? HA! and liberals never shout down anyone with an opposing view that has facts and statistics.... I am well aware of their double standard. However, it's the conservatives who are most notorious for squashing new ideas in the name of" traditional- everything" One of the stupidest things I've ever seen posted on arfcom

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Posted: 4/1/2012 1:17:37 PM [Last Edit: 4/1/2012 1:24:49 PM by learath] Originally Posted By Qweevox: Originally Posted By learath: Originally Posted By MagazineFed: They think with their hearts instead of their brains. No, like most people, conservatives included they don't think. They don't understand history, or understand how they absolutely fuck themselves when they give OTHER people power. Here are the facts of life. Humans, like all living things strive for their own selfish interest. ALL HUMANS do this there are no "angels of our better nature" anywhere. They do not exist. Humans, want to do as little as possible to get what they want. Humans, are NEVER satisfied, they always want more. These traits are NOT evil, even though the dogmas of the state would have you think otherwise. People are generally unhappy, because deep down they know these truths, but are taught to deny them, hide them, and treat them as dirty little secrets. They try to make you think YOUR virtue is evil so that they can control you. I said nothing about conservatives? ETA: though I would like to see an intelligent defense of spending our entire income on Social Security and Welfare. If you can come up with one I'll consider re-evaluating my opinion of liberals. ETA2: I missed this in my initial read, as I ignored your entire irrelevant conclusion. I, and many other people, do not always take the path of least resistance. I choose to do the right thing (which may be moral, or it may be physical) because I want to, not because you have compelled me to through some arcane law. Sorry for breaking your entire worldview.

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Posted: 4/1/2012 1:17:42 PM Originally Posted By tc556guy: Originally Posted By Aiden: Originally Posted By tc556guy: Originally Posted By BlueJames: They are in touch with their emotions. They see the world through and make decisions based on emotion, not reason. Ha. LIke conservatives don't also base stuff on emotion. Get into a religious argument with one and see whether they argue from facts or faith ( another name for emotion ). Really? You've never argued religion with me then have you...Go back to DU. I don't post in DU, and when the topic of Organized Mythology comes up in GD, feelings get hurt and mods get contacted to tell me to not pick on Christianity. In the end, its supporters argue from emotional soapboxes, not facts. No different than the liberals who get hounded here You paint with too broad a brush...

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Posted: 4/1/2012 1:17:55 PM Originally Posted By Qweevox: Originally Posted By learath: Originally Posted By MagazineFed: They think with their hearts instead of their brains. No, like most people, conservatives included they don't think. They don't understand history, or understand how they absolutely fuck themselves when they give OTHER people power. Here are the facts of life. Humans, like all living things strive for their own selfish interest. ALL HUMANS do this there are no "angels of our better nature" anywhere. They do not exist. Humans, want to do as little as possible to get what they want. Humans, are NEVER satisfied, they always want more. These traits are NOT evil, even though the dogmas of the state would have you think otherwise. People are generally unhappy, because deep down they know these truths, but are taught to deny them, hide them, and treat them as dirty little secrets. They try to make you think YOUR virtue is evil so that they can control you. +1

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Posted: 4/1/2012 1:18:37 PM [Last Edit: 4/1/2012 1:19:47 PM by 110] Originally Posted By tc556guy: Originally Posted By 110: Originally Posted By Qweevox: A bigger question is why are so many liberals AND conservatives Statist Human flaw. Human nature. People know whats best for everyone else. Overprotectivness. stifling personalities. Whats the alternative? Some version of anarchy? There is no alternative, only shit. Liberals will want to fundamentally change human nature. Nature wins. Christians do too, and there is still sin.

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Posted: 4/1/2012 1:20:02 PM [Last Edit: 4/1/2012 1:22:02 PM by tc556guy] Originally Posted By Aiden: You paint with too broad a brush... Not really. Back to the original question, how many conservatives support artistic endeavors? Originally Posted By 110: There is no alternative, only shit. Liberals will want to fundamentally change human nature. Nature wins. Christians do too, and there is still sin. Christians label anything they don't like as "sin". Of course, thats stuff they don't publicly admit to liking. Then they get caught doing the very things they were publicly denouncing. I call that being a hypocrite.

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Posted: 4/1/2012 1:22:58 PM Because liberals tend to migrate towards nonproductive, useless, lazy assed occupations. The ones that do make a decent living only do so because the money they are paid mostly comes from other idiots who didn't work all that hard for the money either. It came from tax payers or an inheritance or government grants, wherever, but I can guarantee it wasn't their own hard earned money.

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Posted: 4/1/2012 1:24:16 PM Originally Posted By keroppl: Originally Posted By Qweevox: Originally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By Qweevox: A bigger question is why are so many liberals AND conservatives Statist Bingo. They can't connect the dots? At what IQ level do people finally get it? That's a good question. Part of me wishes an IQ test was part of the requirement to vote. Modern politics is a little like watching reality TV. The liberal and conservative statist struggle with POP dramas instead of fixing the problem that causes them.

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Posted: 4/1/2012 1:27:36 PM Originally Posted By tc556guy: Originally Posted By 110: Originally Posted By Qweevox: A bigger question is why are so many liberals AND conservatives Statist Human flaw. Human nature. People know whats best for everyone else. Overprotectivness. stifling personalities. Whats the alternative? Some version of anarchy? If you consider the founding principals our nation and the law of the Constitution of the United States which subordination the state, and the mob, to individual liberty as anarchy, then YES.

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Posted: 4/1/2012 1:28:02 PM Originally Posted By tc556guy: Originally Posted By Aiden: You paint with too broad a brush... Not really. Back to the original question, how many conservatives support artistic endeavors? Originally Posted By 110: There is no alternative, only shit. Liberals will want to fundamentally change human nature. Nature wins. Christians do too, and there is still sin. Christians label anything they don't like as "sin". Of course, thats stuff they don't publicly admit to liking. Then they get caught doing the very things they were publicly denouncing. I call that being a hypocrite. Again, you're full of shit. I went to catholic school, I'm a Christian...maybe not a good one, but that's another thread. I don't give a shit what other people do, I think weed should be legal (even though I don't smoke it). Gay people, I don't give a shit there either.

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Posted: 4/1/2012 1:28:50 PM Originally Posted By tc556guy: Originally Posted By Aiden: You paint with too broad a brush... Not really. Back to the original question, how many conservatives support artistic endeavors? Originally Posted By 110: There is no alternative, only shit. Liberals will want to fundamentally change human nature. Nature wins. Christians do too, and there is still sin. Christians label anything they don't like as "sin". Of course, thats stuff they don't publicly admit to liking. Then they get caught doing the very things they were publicly denouncing. I call that being a hypocrite. I think most Americans support some type of artistic endeaver no matter their political leanings. Any time they buy or rent movies, music, books with illustration or photography, plus the writing, etc.

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