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Posted: 4/1/2012 4:29:14 PM
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Posted: 4/1/2012 4:31:08 PM
All the young people that I know listen to the Oldies station that plays rock from the 70s, 80s, and 90s.
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Posted: 4/1/2012 4:34:20 PM
If you can't rock the fuck out to this, you're broken.
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Posted: 4/1/2012 7:42:33 PM
The Black Keys are just what I needed.
Thanks to UncivilEngineer for the recommendation. I've been listening to TBK most of the day now and I'm really digging them. |
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Posted: 4/1/2012 8:19:22 PM
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Posted: 4/1/2012 9:02:45 PM
Originally Posted By Paul:
Originally Posted By 6winchester2:
The concept you are searching for is called "cultural entropy." Yes. When disco became popular I was amazed and confused ... I mean dazed and confused. Thankfully Los Angeles is full of brilliantly talented session musicians that reproduce most of the best of the 1970's and 80's in the clubs. There's a couple of concerts a month from the various bands meaning that I can safely live in denial that rock isn't dead. Of course the local Indian casinos have the real deal on the tour with 60 and 70 year old men trying to reproduce their energy levels from 50 years ago. The only difference between them and Civil War reenactors is that one wears wool, the other doesn't. |
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Posted: 4/1/2012 9:06:29 PM
Originally Posted By swingset:
Oh good, another bunch of guys my age that jumped off the sentimental music bus and never go back on. Your parents said the same thing about their music. And their parents. They were all full of shit. There's never been a better time for music than right now. You just have your ears and mind closed, and worse rely on Clearchannel and the TV to spoon feed you what's available. Every month I download a new playlist from emerging artists with hundreds of songs, and some of them are just fucking outstanding. Creativity isn't dead, styles change and re-emerge, and even the bands you thought were so groundbreaking were lifting their inspiration from someone else. Old farts. 
I agree with most everything you said. There truly is so much more available than before, so many choices, but- how much of it is novel and unique? How much has never been heard before, stylistically? Everything I hear nowadays sounds like something I've heard before. It's like playing a game of connect the dots to see where the writer and musicians got their ideas from. Like the rest of Western culture, there is nothing new out there culturally. |
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Posted: 4/1/2012 9:09:24 PM
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Rock is alive and well. It's just called "Outlaw Country" now. It' s country music in general. My wife listens to country radio all the time. I tell her, that's not country, that's rock. Crunching guitars, big drums..the only things that keep it country are the yokel accents and dumbass basslines. |
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Posted: 4/1/2012 9:17:55 PM
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Originally Posted By Maynard: The Black Keys are just what I needed.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZCSGwKOntY&feature=relatedThanks to UncivilEngineer for the recommendation. I've been listening to TBK most of the day now and I'm really digging them. I actually don't listen to much music that most people here would consider "rock". First heard the Black Keys on SiriusXM Alt Nation 
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Posted: 4/1/2012 9:29:48 PM
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Originally Posted By RaisedByWolves:
Originally Posted By Cdog:
Queens of the stone age rocks Dave Grohl. I went to the Foo Fighters / Motörhead show last May in Tulsa. THAT was a fucking ROCK AND ROLL show. Originally Posted By LetThemTakeArms:
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Originally Posted By ATACORION:
Don't Worry Zakk Wylde will save us.  His Pride & Glory project was rock, but just about everything else he's been involved in is more in the metal camp. You should check out Book of Shadows. That, along with Hangover Music Vol. VI and The Song Remains Not The Same. They're Black Label Society albums, but more in the vein of Book of Shadows. 
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Posted: 4/1/2012 9:32:42 PM
Originally Posted By UncivilEngineer: Originally Posted By Maynard: The Black Keys are just what I needed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZCSGwKOntY&feature=relatedThanks to UncivilEngineer for the recommendation. I've been listening to TBK most of the day now and I'm really digging them. I actually don't listen to much music that most people here would consider "rock". First heard the Black Keys on SiriusXM Alt Nation Twice today I've been jamming and my wife and son have heard TBK and said, "What is that?" It's really able to fit into many different genres. |
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Posted: 4/1/2012 9:34:27 PM
I'm kinda partial to this type of rock music...
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Posted: 4/1/2012 9:38:52 PM
Originally Posted By Subnet:
If you can't rock the fuck out to this, you're broken.
Rock is far from being dead. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9pZxnJAwQI&feature=relatedInteresting. I listened to it and couldn't help but think of Black Sabbath with some of the guitar stuff. |
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Posted: 4/1/2012 9:42:09 PM
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As an old rock fan I only find two relatively modern bands that are creative, driven and quite entertaining, The Melvins and KYUSS. They have been around an number of years but still ring my bell.  And KYUSS came about twenty years ago when there were actually some "new" and "alternative" bands that still followed the rock model. |
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Posted: 4/1/2012 9:43:34 PM
It morphed into classic rock..............sir......
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Posted: 4/1/2012 10:35:13 PM
It is still there but just got to adjust your taste for the inevitable evolution of any genre.
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Posted: 4/1/2012 11:57:06 PM
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Originally Posted By 95thFoot: Originally Posted By twistedLV: Rock is alive and well. It's just called "Outlaw Country" now. It' s country music in general. My wife listens to country radio all the time. I tell her, that's not country, that's rock. Crunching guitars, big drums..the only things that keep it country are the yokel accents and dumbass basslines. I can't stand the fake country accents. If the English, Scot, Irish, Aussie, and non-native english speaking bands all lose their accents when singing I can't understand why the country musicians can't. It's my biggest problem with country music. Toad the Wet Sprocket has much of the country/folk sound without the stupid accent and their bassist is awsome. Likewise go to YouTube and search "Starflyer 59". |
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Posted: 4/2/2012 1:45:09 AM
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Scott H. Biram rocks his motherfucking ass off.
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Posted: 4/2/2012 2:11:41 AM
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The Answer
Fans of Wolfmother, The Darkness, and similar will dig this newer band out of Northern Ireland. Real 70' throwback sound with obvious Led Zep influence. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aT6iuYaNtg |
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Posted: 4/2/2012 2:18:57 AM
I've always been a Pantera fan. The collaboration album Down and Down II with CoC is worth a listen as well.
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Posted: 4/2/2012 8:17:33 AM
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Originally Posted By 95thFoot: From an earlier reply in the thread about this very topic.Originally Posted By swingset: Oh good, another bunch of guys my age that jumped off the sentimental music bus and never go back on. Your parents said the same thing about their music. And their parents. They were all full of shit. There's never been a better time for music than right now. You just have your ears and mind closed, and worse rely on Clearchannel and the TV to spoon feed you what's available. Every month I download a new playlist from emerging artists with hundreds of songs, and some of them are just fucking outstanding. Creativity isn't dead, styles change and re-emerge, and even the bands you thought were so groundbreaking were lifting their inspiration from someone else. Old farts. I agree with most everything you said. There truly is so much more available than before, so many choices, but- how much of it is novel and unique? How much has never been heard before, stylistically? Everything I hear nowadays sounds like something I've heard before. It's like playing a game of connect the dots to see where the writer and musicians got their ideas from. Like the rest of Western culture, there is nothing new out there culturally. It's an impossible standard if you demand innovation in order to be "real". Every band since Fats Domino has been borrowing on someone else's template...in one way or another. You should look for good songs, rather than "new" or you'll spit nails because every band you hear has elements of someone else in them. That's unavoidable, and those "sounds" of each generation were as much about production style and technology available as they were intentional sonic motifs. True, some things like punk came about and had never been around before, but rock is only so diverse, at a certain point it can't keep developing branches. Even something like punk was really just I-IV-V progressions, just played shorter and more aggressively. Musically? It wasn't really anything new just a new dressing. Some things like industrial came about because of the prevalence of better synth and drum machines. Technology hasn't really introduced anything remarkably new in the last decade to create new sonic templates - all it's done is make it easier and cheaper. That's not the fault of bands now, any more than it was the genius of earlier bands that they happened to spring into being when a void was there to be filled...or because Queen had access to 256 channels of recording while the Beatles had 4. Each's sound was a direct correlation of those facts, as we remember them. If you don't believe me, describe how a band might make a brand new sound now. Even by doing so, you'll start thinking of other musical styles to do it. http://localnumber69.com/blog/ You're probably asking too much, in that regard. It's better to enjoy the songs than worry about the styles. With 10,000,000 rock bands in the last 60 years, you're not going to get radically new styles every decade like we once did. Just a matter of limitations, so enjoy the songs. |
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Posted: 4/2/2012 8:31:34 AM
It started to die when they stopped going out to look for good bands to market and decided just hype lesser quality talent instead. Remember for the record companies are is not about the quality of them music but about making money. Look at the Monkees. Actually a decent band, but it was initially just 4 guys put together to make a sitcom about a rock band. It made millions and still makes money in reruns. Their albums still sell too. This lesson was not lost on the purveyors of music.
Madonna - a made up much hyped event rather than any real talent. Britney Spears = Madonna v2 Miley Cyrus = Madonna v3 etc. |
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Posted: 4/2/2012 8:58:11 AM
There's plenty of good rock but it doesn't get airtime anymore. The only new stuff that gets airtime now is pop, whether they call it "country" or whatever now.
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Posted: 4/2/2012 9:11:38 AM
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I'm a fan of the stoner /doom rock genre's
Grand Magus: The Machine: Stream of Sorrow: |
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Posted: 4/2/2012 9:15:17 AM
others you may want to look up: Egypt Asteroid The Heavy Eyes Ride The Sun Samsara Blues Experiment Southell Stoned Jesus Weird Owl Fu Manchu |
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Posted: 4/2/2012 9:40:38 AM
Yes Zakk Wylde has alot of Metal, Hell back int he Day Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple were "Metal" now they are jsut classic rock and Im not slamming any of them, Jimmy Page is the reason I bought and played a Les Paul for many many years. But Zakk has alot of Rock in his albums, hell the first BLS album was a garage metal rock album at its best. IMO hes the Veteran out there stil kicking ass for guys liek me who like that type of music, sure there are other bands I love but Now that Dimebag is gone Zakk to me is up there with PAGE, Cantrell, Richie Blackmore and Angus Young just to name a few.
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Posted: 4/2/2012 9:53:51 AM
Originally Posted By trey76:
I've always been a Pantera fan. The collaboration album Down and Down II with CoC is worth a listen as well. GAHHHHH.... Fucking Pantera was fucking garbage. Complete CRAP. Shit band., The guitarist was such a flaming sithbag he had to reinvent his nickname.. Fuck be upon that shit band Pantera.... Naming yourself after a car that was a failure, and a cheap copy of a supercar kinda shows that they were gonna only do the same..... |
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Posted: 4/2/2012 10:00:07 AM
Originally Posted By gaweidert:
It started to die when they stopped going out to look for good bands to market and decided just hype lesser quality talent instead. Remember for the record companies are is not about the quality of them music but about making money. Look at the Monkees. Actually a decent band, but it was initially just 4 guys put together to make a sitcom about a rock band. It made millions and still makes money in reruns. Their albums still sell too. This lesson was not lost on the purveyors of music. Madonna - a made up much hyped event rather than any real talent. Britney Spears = Madonna v2 Miley Cyrus = Madonna v3 etc. Yet someone else who knows nothing about The Monkees, the actual musicians that were in the band, or the 2 actors who actually worked their asses off to become real musicians. Do some reading before you play the prefab, no instrument playing card...... You MIGHT actually be surprised, and learn how good they were in their own right, and hard they worked.... The chief 'rival band' was actually impressed...... |
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Posted: 4/2/2012 10:34:07 AM
As someone who grew up in the 80s I agree with this. The top rated songs were crap back them. I remember only hearing Black Sabbath after 9pm on the radio. |
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Posted: 4/2/2012 10:40:33 AM
A lot of pop musicians are much more talented than you would think. For some reason complex music doesn't have broad appeal. So they make commercial music and later start a career that has more technical merits.
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Posted: 4/2/2012 9:03:25 PM
The Gaslight Anthem
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Posted: 4/2/2012 9:07:55 PM
Awesome music exists, good luck finding it on your FM dial, or hell, even XM.
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Posted: 4/2/2012 9:58:04 PM
Originally Posted By Combat_Jack: A lot of pop musicians are much more talented than you would think. For some reason complex music doesn't have broad appeal. So they make commercial music and later start a career that has more technical merits. A lot of very very talented musicians can't write a catchy tune to save their lives. It's a skill that can't be honed or created by playing scales if you don't have it god-given....and people who dismiss pop don't realize how hard it is. It's a rare person that can do both. Anyone can scream and emote, or play dissonant minor chords, but try to sit down and write something that appeals to everyone in the party. |
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Posted: 4/2/2012 10:03:58 PM
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Posted: 4/2/2012 10:29:06 PM
Originally Posted By Deej86: Awesome music exists, good luck finding it on your FM dial, or hell, even XM. Alt Nation and XMU play plenty of new, non-mainstream stuff. |
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Posted: 4/2/2012 10:30:43 PM
Those guys are pretty good. Really like this song. |
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Posted: 4/2/2012 10:33:21 PM
The Black Keys
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Posted: 4/2/2012 10:38:55 PM
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Posted: 4/2/2012 10:44:46 PM
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Red fang is the real fucking deal +111 Yes! |
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Originally Posted By sleevefullofaces: Originally Posted By huck: Red fang is the real fucking deal +111 Yes! |
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Posted: 4/3/2012 2:10:31 AM
This has turned into one awesome rock thread. Keep it going so I can find more new stuff!
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Posted: 4/3/2012 7:02:54 AM
Originally Posted By nonesuchriver:
Originally Posted By SlowTA:
I think anyone today not able to find music to their liking either isn't trying or refuse to adapt to change and think that every song made between 67 and 75 was perfect. Fact is, there were just as many shit songs in the golden days as there are now. Its just that no one alive during that time is willing to accept that. Much the same way that classic muscle car lovers refuse to accept the fact that most sucked and the rest were slow. I love the classics just like I love the old muscle cars but accept that the new stuff is great as well. +1. I'm 42 so I guess I should be getting opinionated and biased towards my generations music. The funny thing is that I'm finding all kinds of great bands out there. They just don't get airplay on top 40 radio. The music industry is completely different than it was 20 years ago. You have to look a bit harder and go to different sources to find it but its there! Have to say that as a 45 year old, I used to think that all the Post-early '90s music sucked compared to the stuff I loved in the '80s. I have been listening to the local station that caters to the young folk but does play old classics as well. I'm pleasantly surprised that I can still find some newer music that while it isn't as awesome as what I used to listen to, is pretty decent. I got tired of living in the '80s, and wanted to try something new. Bands I can at least listen to and like some of their songs: Seether Shinedown Avenged Sevenfold Buck Cherry Airbourne 3 Doors Down SOME of Nickelback, though not all of it. Saving Abel. I've also discovered some bands from the old days ('80s) that I wasn't aware of, such as Tora Tora, Honeymoon Suite, Slaughter. Music is change, so you can embrace what is new, or you can stagnate in your old music. I know I used to think the new stuff sucked. Some does, some doesn't. Same as in the '70s, '80s, '90s. 
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Posted: 4/3/2012 10:51:49 AM
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Posted: 4/3/2012 11:07:53 AM
I lament that this sort of music has evolved into shit like Nickleback, but there are some bands that make good, hard driving rock music.
Try Wolfmother and Red Fang...Prehistoric Dog is by far my favorite song right now...and the video ( on youtube) is great.
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Not all hope is lost yet.
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Originally Posted By Hawk_308:
The new stuff isnt bad for the most part ,just different . I have about all the 70s and 80s rock but I still like me some shinedown , fuel , chevelle and the like . Most of the new stuff these days is pussy ass shit with guys whining about shit.  Whaaaaaaa I have split ends. Whaaaaaaaaaaaa I'm sorry I hurt you baby Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa  |
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Posted: 4/3/2012 7:30:27 PM
Originally Posted By Deej86: Awesome music exists, good luck finding it on your FM dial, or hell, even XM. So true Deej. That's why I stopped listening to the radio over 20 years ago. It's all about payola and shitty program directors. AB |
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Posted: 4/3/2012 7:55:04 PM
MTV Killed it.
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Posted: 4/9/2012 12:04:19 PM
Originally Posted By Subnet:
Quit waiting for it to be spoonfed to you on the radio, or TV. There's a shit ton of new rock music around, that doesn't suck. Quit being old.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4JR6aw_UqoHOLY CRAP!! THANK YOU SUBNET!!!! I was in the OP's shoes till you posted this!! AMAZING BAND!!! |
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