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Asha in the books I believe is described as tall and lean not dumpy and homely [span style='font-style: italic;']Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Somehow I never pictured the Iron Islands as home to the hottest of women.... Apparently that wasn't going to stop Theon from trying. And she played along.  The book explains better what she was doing. She wanted to size him up and see what kind of person he was. In the book, she stopped him when he tried to feel her up. You would think that the HBO guys would have dedicated an half episode to that! |
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Click To View SpoilerOriginally Posted By Formergrunt94: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By Star_Scream: Asha in the books I believe is described as tall and lean not dumpy and homely [span style='font-style: italic;']Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Somehow I never pictured the Iron Islands as home to the hottest of women.... Apparently that wasn't going to stop Theon from trying. And she played along. The book explains better what she was doing. She wanted to size him up and see what kind of person he was. In the book, she stopped him when he tried to feel her up. You would think that the HBO guys would have dedicated an half episode to that! |
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Posted: 4/9/2012 11:17:51 PM
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The best part of this episode as usual involve Tyrion. 
The exchange betwen him & Veary's, his exiling of the Goldcloak bastard/etc. I was dissapointed to see Bromm turn out such a badguy. 
Tyrion: "if I told you to kill a baby, would you do it without question?" Bromm: "Without question, no. I'd ask how much?" Though maybe he was just playing to a man who's the Hand of the king.  No Ms in his name. And he is a sellsword. this. Bronn isn't a hero, or a patriot. He's a mercenary in every sense of the word. |
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Posted: 4/9/2012 11:26:36 PM
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Asha in the books I believe is described as tall and lean not dumpy and homely [span style='font-style: italic;']Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Somehow I never pictured the Iron Islands as home to the hottest of women.... Apparently that wasn't going to stop Theon from trying. And she played along. The book explains better what she was doing. She wanted to size him up and see what kind of person he was. In the book, she stopped him when he tried to feel her up. You would think that the HBO guys would have dedicated an half episode to that! as I've said before, Tyrion's cock damn near deserves a POV chapter itself as often as it's mentioned in the books. it's damn near a character in its own right. |
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Posted: 4/10/2012 12:59:54 AM
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Once again, a gratuitous sex scene for no reason (Littlefinger). Theon's could have been dropped too (with the ship's captain's daughter) and given more interaction with Asha (or whatever they renamed her to). It is HBO tho. Tyrion again was awesome. And Stannis and Melisandre??? Agreed. Asha's line about being a woman wed and her "suckling babe" with her axe and dagger would have been much more interesting than Theon getting it stuck in. They could have showed him getting out of bed and dressing to get the same point across. Stannis and Melisandre just plain pisses me off. That scene has undercut Stannis' entire character and flushed away his moral superiority. That made him look as weak and morally ambiguous as everyone else, where he's supposed to be the one man that could even call Ned Stark's honor into question. Didn't care for the addition of the last scene either. |
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Originally Posted By MEDIKEIGHTED: Originally Posted By PeculiarSatyr: Originally Posted By Spartanatheart: The best part of this episode as usual involve Tyrion. The exchange betwen him & Veary's, his exiling of the Goldcloak bastard/etc. I was dissapointed to see Bromm turn out such a badguy. Tyrion: "if I told you to kill a baby, would you do it without question?" Bromm: "Without question, no. I'd ask how much?" Though maybe he was just playing to a man who's the Hand of the king. No Ms in his name. And he is a sellsword. this. Bronn isn't a hero, or a patriot. He's a mercenary in every sense of the word. This. That's the great things about this series. Good and bad they're all very human and all have a real price. Bronn's is much cheaper than others Ned stark finally put away his enameled white armor to save his kids, it was just too late. |
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Posted: 4/10/2012 7:41:02 AM
Originally Posted By Star_Scream:
Originally Posted By MEDIKEIGHTED:
Originally Posted By PeculiarSatyr:
Originally Posted By Spartanatheart:
The best part of this episode as usual involve Tyrion.
The exchange betwen him & Veary's, his exiling of the Goldcloak bastard/etc. I was dissapointed to see Bromm turn out such a badguy.
Tyrion: "if I told you to kill a baby, would you do it without question?" Bromm: "Without question, no. I'd ask how much?" Though maybe he was just playing to a man who's the Hand of the king. No Ms in his name. And he is a sellsword. this. Bronn isn't a hero, or a patriot. He's a mercenary in every sense of the word. This. That's the great things about this series. Good and bad they're all very human and all have a real price. Bronn's is much cheaper than others Ned stark finally put away his enameled white armor to save his kids, it was just too late. I am not sure Bronn's price is cheaper. He seems to have genuine respect/affection for Tyrion and he put his ass on the line championing him during Tyrion's trial by combat. |
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Posted: 4/10/2012 8:31:35 AM
Originally Posted By Bill247: Originally Posted By Star_Scream: Originally Posted By MEDIKEIGHTED: Originally Posted By PeculiarSatyr: Originally Posted By Spartanatheart: The best part of this episode as usual involve Tyrion. The exchange betwen him & Veary's, his exiling of the Goldcloak bastard/etc. I was dissapointed to see Bromm turn out such a badguy. Tyrion: "if I told you to kill a baby, would you do it without question?" Bromm: "Without question, no. I'd ask how much?" Though maybe he was just playing to a man who's the Hand of the king. No Ms in his name. And he is a sellsword. this. Bronn isn't a hero, or a patriot. He's a mercenary in every sense of the word. This. That's the great things about this series. Good and bad they're all very human and all have a real price. Bronn's is much cheaper than others Ned stark finally put away his enameled white armor to save his kids, it was just too late. I am not sure Bronn's price is cheaper. He seems to have genuine respect/affection for Tyrion and he put his ass on the line championing him during Tyrion's trial by combat. I think he does like Tyrion, but a significant part of his motive was that he saw a great opportunity to get rich. |
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Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: I think he does like Tyrion, but a significant part of his motive was that he saw a great opportunity to get rich. yup |
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I think he does like Tyrion, but a significant part of his motive was that he saw a great opportunity to get rich. yup exactly. He didn't champion Tyrion because he liked him. He fought for him because he's Tyrion Lannister of Casterly Rock. |
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I think he does like Tyrion, but a significant part of his motive was that he saw a great opportunity to get rich. yup exactly. He didn't champion Tyrion because he liked him. He fought for him because he's Tyrion Lannister of Casterly Rock. The same reason the whore latched on to him so tight....gold |
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Originally Posted By DWFAN: Originally Posted By MEDIKEIGHTED: Originally Posted By metalsaber: Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: I think he does like Tyrion, but a significant part of his motive was that he saw a great opportunity to get rich. yup exactly. He didn't champion Tyrion because he liked him. He fought for him because he's Tyrion Lannister of Casterly Rock. The same reason the whore latched on to him so tight....gold  |
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Posted: 4/10/2012 10:11:50 AM
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Once again, a gratuitous sex scene for no reason (Littlefinger). Theon's could have been dropped too (with the ship's captain's daughter) and given more interaction with Asha (or whatever they renamed her to). It is HBO tho. Tyrion again was awesome. And Stannis and Melisandre??? Agreed. Asha's line about being a woman wed and her "suckling babe" with her axe and dagger would have been much more interesting than Theon getting it stuck in. They could have showed him getting out of bed and dressing to get the same point across. Stannis and Melisandre just plain pisses me off. That scene has undercut Stannis' entire character and flushed away his moral superiority. That made him look as weak and morally ambiguous as everyone else, where he's supposed to be the one man that could even call Ned Stark's honor into question. Didn't care for the addition of the last scene either. You read the books and didn't realize that Stannis was fucking Melisandre? He knows he shouldn't, but he does it anyway in return Melisandre's "gifts", then chooses to look the other way at the (horrific) results (think about what happens to his enemies and how). That's Stannis' fatal flaw... he gives up a lot of himself for his shot at the kingship because he thinks he has it coming to him and in so doing makes himself just another pawn in the big game. |
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Posted: 4/10/2012 10:33:53 AM
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Originally Posted By GIJoe:
Once again, a gratuitous sex scene for no reason (Littlefinger). Theon's could have been dropped too (with the ship's captain's daughter) and given more interaction with Asha (or whatever they renamed her to). It is HBO tho. Tyrion again was awesome. And Stannis and Melisandre??? Agreed. Asha's line about being a woman wed and her "suckling babe" with her axe and dagger would have been much more interesting than Theon getting it stuck in. They could have showed him getting out of bed and dressing to get the same point across. Stannis and Melisandre just plain pisses me off. That scene has undercut Stannis' entire character and flushed away his moral superiority. That made him look as weak and morally ambiguous as everyone else, where he's supposed to be the one man that could even call Ned Stark's honor into question. Didn't care for the addition of the last scene either. You read the books and didn't realize that Stannis was fucking Melisandre? He knows he shouldn't, but he does it anyway in return Melisandre's "gifts", then chooses to look the other way at the (horrific) results (think about what happens to his enemies and how). That's Stannis' fatal flaw... he gives up a lot of himself for his shot at the kingship because he thinks he has it coming to him and in so doing makes himself just another pawn in the big game. I'm still not convinced he is in the books. Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 4/10/2012 11:14:39 AM
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Originally Posted By MEDIKEIGHTED:
Originally Posted By GIJoe:
Once again, a gratuitous sex scene for no reason (Littlefinger). Theon's could have been dropped too (with the ship's captain's daughter) and given more interaction with Asha (or whatever they renamed her to). It is HBO tho. Tyrion again was awesome. And Stannis and Melisandre??? Agreed. Asha's line about being a woman wed and her "suckling babe" with her axe and dagger would have been much more interesting than Theon getting it stuck in. They could have showed him getting out of bed and dressing to get the same point across. Stannis and Melisandre just plain pisses me off. That scene has undercut Stannis' entire character and flushed away his moral superiority. That made him look as weak and morally ambiguous as everyone else, where he's supposed to be the one man that could even call Ned Stark's honor into question. Didn't care for the addition of the last scene either. You read the books and didn't realize that Stannis was fucking Melisandre? He knows he shouldn't, but he does it anyway in return Melisandre's "gifts", then chooses to look the other way at the (horrific) results (think about what happens to his enemies and how). That's Stannis' fatal flaw... he gives up a lot of himself for his shot at the kingship because he thinks he has it coming to him and in so doing makes himself just another pawn in the big game. I'm still not convinced he is in the books. Click To View Spoiler Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 4/10/2012 11:34:33 AM
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Originally Posted By GIJoe:
Once again, a gratuitous sex scene for no reason (Littlefinger). Theon's could have been dropped too (with the ship's captain's daughter) and given more interaction with Asha (or whatever they renamed her to). It is HBO tho. Tyrion again was awesome. And Stannis and Melisandre??? Agreed. Asha's line about being a woman wed and her "suckling babe" with her axe and dagger would have been much more interesting than Theon getting it stuck in. They could have showed him getting out of bed and dressing to get the same point across. Stannis and Melisandre just plain pisses me off. That scene has undercut Stannis' entire character and flushed away his moral superiority. That made him look as weak and morally ambiguous as everyone else, where he's supposed to be the one man that could even call Ned Stark's honor into question. Didn't care for the addition of the last scene either. You read the books and didn't realize that Stannis was fucking Melisandre? He knows he shouldn't, but he does it anyway in return Melisandre's "gifts", then chooses to look the other way at the (horrific) results (think about what happens to his enemies and how). That's Stannis' fatal flaw... he gives up a lot of himself for his shot at the kingship because he thinks he has it coming to him and in so doing makes himself just another pawn in the big game. WTF? I must not have read the same books as you. GRR Martin right? I keep hearing "it's unwritten back story" in the books to make up excuses. What IS written of Stannis makes him porking Mel on the map a ridiculous departure of his personality/character |
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Posted: 4/10/2012 12:13:10 PM
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Originally Posted By MEDIKEIGHTED:
Originally Posted By GIJoe:
Once again, a gratuitous sex scene for no reason (Littlefinger). Theon's could have been dropped too (with the ship's captain's daughter) and given more interaction with Asha (or whatever they renamed her to). It is HBO tho. Tyrion again was awesome. And Stannis and Melisandre??? Agreed. Asha's line about being a woman wed and her "suckling babe" with her axe and dagger would have been much more interesting than Theon getting it stuck in. They could have showed him getting out of bed and dressing to get the same point across. Stannis and Melisandre just plain pisses me off. That scene has undercut Stannis' entire character and flushed away his moral superiority. That made him look as weak and morally ambiguous as everyone else, where he's supposed to be the one man that could even call Ned Stark's honor into question. Didn't care for the addition of the last scene either. You read the books and didn't realize that Stannis was fucking Melisandre? He knows he shouldn't, but he does it anyway in return Melisandre's "gifts", then chooses to look the other way at the (horrific) results (think about what happens to his enemies and how). That's Stannis' fatal flaw... he gives up a lot of himself for his shot at the kingship because he thinks he has it coming to him and in so doing makes himself just another pawn in the big game. WTF? I must not have read the same books as you. GRR Martin right? I keep hearing "it's unwritten back story" in the books to make up excuses. What IS written of Stannis makes him porking Mel on the map a ridiculous departure of his personality/character Go back and read the part from where we meet Stannis to how the whole Renly situation gets resolved. There isn't an explicit sex scene, but the implication is extremely strong. Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 4/10/2012 12:22:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Bill247:
Originally Posted By Star_Scream:
Originally Posted By MEDIKEIGHTED:
Originally Posted By PeculiarSatyr:
Originally Posted By Spartanatheart:
The best part of this episode as usual involve Tyrion.
The exchange betwen him & Veary's, his exiling of the Goldcloak bastard/etc. I was dissapointed to see Bromm turn out such a badguy.
Tyrion: "if I told you to kill a baby, would you do it without question?" Bromm: "Without question, no. I'd ask how much?" Though maybe he was just playing to a man who's the Hand of the king. No Ms in his name. And he is a sellsword. this. Bronn isn't a hero, or a patriot. He's a mercenary in every sense of the word. This. That's the great things about this series. Good and bad they're all very human and all have a real price. Bronn's is much cheaper than others Ned stark finally put away his enameled white armor to save his kids, it was just too late. I am not sure Bronn's price is cheaper. He seems to have genuine respect/affection for Tyrion and he put his ass on the line championing him during Tyrion's trial by combat. I think he does like Tyrion, but a significant part of his motive was that he saw a great opportunity to get rich. Without a doubt, but it helps that he does not have to hold his nose while he does it. |
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Posted: 4/10/2012 12:35:51 PM
Originally Posted By GIJoe: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By MEDIKEIGHTED: Originally Posted By GIJoe: Once again, a gratuitous sex scene for no reason (Littlefinger). Theon's could have been dropped too (with the ship's captain's daughter) and given more interaction with Asha (or whatever they renamed her to). It is HBO tho. Tyrion again was awesome. And Stannis and Melisandre??? Agreed. Asha's line about being a woman wed and her "suckling babe" with her axe and dagger would have been much more interesting than Theon getting it stuck in. They could have showed him getting out of bed and dressing to get the same point across. Stannis and Melisandre just plain pisses me off. That scene has undercut Stannis' entire character and flushed away his moral superiority. That made him look as weak and morally ambiguous as everyone else, where he's supposed to be the one man that could even call Ned Stark's honor into question. Didn't care for the addition of the last scene either. You read the books and didn't realize that Stannis was fucking Melisandre? He knows he shouldn't, but he does it anyway in return Melisandre's "gifts", then chooses to look the other way at the (horrific) results (think about what happens to his enemies and how). That's Stannis' fatal flaw... he gives up a lot of himself for his shot at the kingship because he thinks he has it coming to him and in so doing makes himself just another pawn in the big game. WTF? I must not have read the same books as you. GRR Martin right? I keep hearing "it's unwritten back story" in the books to make up excuses. What IS written of Stannis makes him porking Mel on the map a ridiculous departure of his personality/character The relationship was in the books. Melisandre's fire broke the brittle iron that was Stannis' honor. Click To View Spoiler I do agree that the map/table thing was a bit over the top. |
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Posted: 4/10/2012 12:46:55 PM
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Originally Posted By MEDIKEIGHTED:
Originally Posted By GIJoe:
Once again, a gratuitous sex scene for no reason (Littlefinger). Theon's could have been dropped too (with the ship's captain's daughter) and given more interaction with Asha (or whatever they renamed her to). It is HBO tho. Tyrion again was awesome. And Stannis and Melisandre??? Agreed. Asha's line about being a woman wed and her "suckling babe" with her axe and dagger would have been much more interesting than Theon getting it stuck in. They could have showed him getting out of bed and dressing to get the same point across. Stannis and Melisandre just plain pisses me off. That scene has undercut Stannis' entire character and flushed away his moral superiority. That made him look as weak and morally ambiguous as everyone else, where he's supposed to be the one man that could even call Ned Stark's honor into question. Didn't care for the addition of the last scene either. You read the books and didn't realize that Stannis was fucking Melisandre? He knows he shouldn't, but he does it anyway in return Melisandre's "gifts", then chooses to look the other way at the (horrific) results (think about what happens to his enemies and how). That's Stannis' fatal flaw... he gives up a lot of himself for his shot at the kingship because he thinks he has it coming to him and in so doing makes himself just another pawn in the big game. WTF? I must not have read the same books as you. GRR Martin right? I keep hearing "it's unwritten back story" in the books to make up excuses. What IS written of Stannis makes him porking Mel on the map a ridiculous departure of his personality/character The relationship was in the books. Melisandre's fire broke the brittle iron that was Stannis' honor. Click To View Spoiler I do agree that the map/table thing was a bit over the top. Click To View Spoiler |
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Season 3 Confirmed!
From the article: "A Storm of Swords is too long to fit in a single season," said Weiss. "And as readers know, A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons take place during roughly the same time frame, so we’ll have to fold those together. The plan, if we’re lucky enough to be given the opportunity to see it through, is to use as many seasons as we need to tell the story as a whole, to do justice to George’s entire opus." Continued: And that seems to be the game plan for HBO. Co-president Richard Plepler said at last summer's Television Critics Association press tour that the network would produce the series as long as Martin wanted it to. We shall see... |
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Originally Posted By alc1343: Season 3 Confirmed! From the article: "A Storm of Swords is too long to fit in a single season," said Weiss. "And as readers know, A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons take place during roughly the same time frame, so we’ll have to fold those together. The plan, if we’re lucky enough to be given the opportunity to see it through, is to use as many seasons as we need to tell the story as a whole, to do justice to George’s entire opus." Continued: And that seems to be the game plan for HBO. Co-president Richard Plepler said at last summer's Television Critics Association press tour that the network would produce the series as long as Martin wanted it to. We shall see...  Oh wait...  Give us beer! |
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Season 3 Confirmed!
From the article: "A Storm of Swords is too long to fit in a single season," said Weiss. "And as readers know, A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons take place during roughly the same time frame, so we’ll have to fold those together. The plan, if we’re lucky enough to be given the opportunity to see it through, is to use as many seasons as we need to tell the story as a whole, to do justice to George’s entire opus." Continued: And that seems to be the game plan for HBO. Co-president Richard Plepler said at last summer's Television Critics Association press tour that the network would produce the series as long as Martin wanted it to. We shall see... Sadly this means that we'll have to (probably) wait yet another year for the ... big finish... to ACoK. I can't wait to see the TV audience digest that. |
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Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By alc1343: Season 3 Confirmed! From the article: "A Storm of Swords is too long to fit in a single season," said Weiss. "And as readers know, A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons take place during roughly the same time frame, so we’ll have to fold those together. The plan, if we’re lucky enough to be given the opportunity to see it through, is to use as many seasons as we need to tell the story as a whole, to do justice to George’s entire opus." Continued: And that seems to be the game plan for HBO. Co-president Richard Plepler said at last summer's Television Critics Association press tour that the network would produce the series as long as Martin wanted it to. We shall see... Sadly this means that we'll have to (probably) wait yet another year for the ... big finish... to ACoK. I can't wait to see the TV audience digest that. They had three choices: Cut a huge amount of material from the third book when they make season 3. Make season 3 more than 10 episodes. 15 might do it. Split book three across more than one season. I'm just very glad they didn't choose number 1. I've already heard that some material involving Click To View Spoiler that is in the beginning of book 3 is going to be included this season to give them more screen time. So they're already mixing it up a bit. |
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Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
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Originally Posted By alc1343:
Season 3 Confirmed!
From the article: "A Storm of Swords is too long to fit in a single season," said Weiss. "And as readers know, A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons take place during roughly the same time frame, so we’ll have to fold those together. The plan, if we’re lucky enough to be given the opportunity to see it through, is to use as many seasons as we need to tell the story as a whole, to do justice to George’s entire opus." Continued: And that seems to be the game plan for HBO. Co-president Richard Plepler said at last summer's Television Critics Association press tour that the network would produce the series as long as Martin wanted it to. We shall see... Sadly this means that we'll have to (probably) wait yet another year for the ... big finish... to ACoK. I can't wait to see the TV audience digest that. They had three choices: Cut a huge amount of material from the third book when they make season 3. Make season 3 more than 10 episodes. 15 might do it. Split book three across more than one season. I'm just very glad they didn't choose number 1. I've already heard that some material involving Click To View Spoiler that is in the beginning of book 3 is going to be included this season to give them more screen time. So they're already mixing it up a bit. I have a better idea... - Stretch ACoK into 1.5 seasons, cut the filler from books 4 & 5 and make them about 4 episodes since those books are 80% filler crap anyway (I'd be happy to comment in highly spoilerific fashion what shit they need to jettison). Send reps to kick GRRM in the ass daily until he finishes the series (he'd better lay off the pizzas and hot dogs... he's about 3 chili dogs from total occlusion). Wrap it up in 3-4 more seasons. As I said, though, the "happy ending" for ACoK is going to be interesting for the audience. |
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Posted: 4/10/2012 3:31:19 PM
Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: I've already heard that some material involving Click To View Spoiler that is in the beginning of book 3 is going to be included this season to give them more screen time. So they're already mixing it up a bit. It makes sense to shuffle things together. Id be easier for a TV audience to follow. |
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Posted: 4/10/2012 5:00:53 PM
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Once again, a gratuitous sex scene for no reason (Littlefinger). Theon's could have been dropped too (with the ship's captain's daughter) and given more interaction with Asha (or whatever they renamed her to). It is HBO tho. Tyrion again was awesome. And Stannis and Melisandre??? Agreed. Asha's line about being a woman wed and her "suckling babe" with her axe and dagger would have been much more interesting than Theon getting it stuck in. They could have showed him getting out of bed and dressing to get the same point across. Stannis and Melisandre just plain pisses me off. That scene has undercut Stannis' entire character and flushed away his moral superiority. That made him look as weak and morally ambiguous as everyone else, where he's supposed to be the one man that could even call Ned Stark's honor into question. Didn't care for the addition of the last scene either. You read the books and didn't realize that Stannis was fucking Melisandre? He knows he shouldn't, but he does it anyway in return Melisandre's "gifts", then chooses to look the other way at the (horrific) results (think about what happens to his enemies and how). That's Stannis' fatal flaw... he gives up a lot of himself for his shot at the kingship because he thinks he has it coming to him and in so doing makes himself just another pawn in the big game. WTF? I must not have read the same books as you. GRR Martin right? I keep hearing "it's unwritten back story" in the books to make up excuses. What IS written of Stannis makes him porking Mel on the map a ridiculous departure of his personality/character The relationship was in the books. Melisandre's fire broke the brittle iron that was Stannis' honor. Click To View Spoiler I do agree that the map/table thing was a bit over the top. I may have forgotten this part. I'm re reading (4th time) along with the episodes and haven't gotten to that part. i certainly don't remember the nasty. |
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Posted: 4/10/2012 5:13:55 PM
[Last Edit: 4/10/2012 5:14:06 PM by watchwatch]
Originally Posted By GIJoe:
[quote]Originally Posted By Silence: snip [quote] I may have forgotten this part. I'm re reading (4th time) along with the episodes and haven't gotten to that part. i certainly don't remember the nasty. [/spoiler] I've read all the books and the first 3 books more than once. I was a little shocked to the see the scene. There was an undercurrent of sexual tension in the books between the two of them. Am I the first one in this thread to say that I am ready to give all of myself to the Lord of the Light 
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Posted: 4/10/2012 5:30:37 PM
I was hoping to catch season 2 on HBO at my friends house (would have brought beer and food as a form of payment to watch at his house) turns out he cancelled his HBO subscribtion a month ago
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Posted: 4/10/2012 8:25:04 PM
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[quote]Originally Posted By Silence: snip [quote] I may have forgotten this part. I'm re reading (4th time) along with the episodes and haven't gotten to that part. i certainly don't remember the nasty. [/spoiler] I've read all the books and the first 3 books more than once. I was a little shocked to the see the scene. There was an undercurrent of sexual tension in the books between the two of them. Am I the first one in this thread to say that I am ready to give all of myself to the Lord of the Light
all yours man, I'm grievously disappointed in casting for Melisandre. I've been imagining her as much younger and hotter all these years. This version isn't unattractive by any means, but "matronly" is the word that keeps coming to mind. |
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Posted: 4/10/2012 8:56:28 PM
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Posted: 4/10/2012 9:03:02 PM
Originally Posted By MEDIKEIGHTED: Originally Posted By watchwatch: Originally Posted By GIJoe: [quote]Originally Posted By Silence: snip [quote] I may have forgotten this part. I'm re reading (4th time) along with the episodes and haven't gotten to that part. i certainly don't remember the nasty. [/spoiler] I've read all the books and the first 3 books more than once. I was a little shocked to the see the scene. There was an undercurrent of sexual tension in the books between the two of them. Am I the first one in this thread to say that I am ready to give all of myself to the Lord of the Light all yours man, I'm grievously disappointed in casting for Melisandre. I've been imagining her as much younger and hotter all these years. This version isn't unattractive by any means, but "matronly" is the word that keeps coming to mind. pretty much every main character was cast 10 years too old... |
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Posted: 4/10/2012 9:38:51 PM
Originally Posted By MEDIKEIGHTED:
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Originally Posted By GIJoe:
[quote]Originally Posted By Silence: snip [quote] I may have forgotten this part. I'm re reading (4th time) along with the episodes and haven't gotten to that part. i certainly don't remember the nasty. [/spoiler] I've read all the books and the first 3 books more than once. I was a little shocked to the see the scene. There was an undercurrent of sexual tension in the books between the two of them. Am I the first one in this thread to say that I am ready to give all of myself to the Lord of the Light
all yours man, I'm grievously disappointed in casting for Melisandre. I've been imagining her as much younger and hotter all these years. This version isn't unattractive by any means, but "matronly" is the word that keeps coming to mind. And Martin clearly described her as having big tits. |
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Posted: 4/10/2012 9:45:10 PM
[Last Edit: 4/10/2012 9:45:39 PM by DragoMuseveni]
Originally Posted By alc1343: Season 3 Confirmed! <snip> And that seems to be the game plan for HBO. Co-president Richard Plepler said at last summer's Television Critics Association press tour that the network would produce the series as long as Martin wanted it to. We shall see... Or until it gets too expensive and they decide to axe it to divert the production money to other less worthwild series like they did with Rome. |
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Posted: 4/10/2012 9:49:02 PM
Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: Oh wait... http://images.wikia.com/gameofthrones/images/9/9f/Rorge.png Give us beer! Ah College. Locked in the back of the paddy wagon demanding more beer.  |
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Posted: 4/10/2012 11:00:17 PM
Balon Greyjoy's into was very well done. I was imagining someone like Stellan Skarsgard, but that actor was just as grim. Did they have to make Asha such a dog though? Yikes.
The Melissandre scene with Stannis was full of WTF. Stannis did not strike me as that impulsive or weak. Davos' son seemed like a bit of a weiner to me. It made me cringe to see Jon sharpen that supposedly super sharp Valaryan steel blade with a round stone like that. Can't have helped that edge any. 
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Posted: 4/11/2012 8:57:14 AM
Originally Posted By DragoMuseveni: Originally Posted By alc1343: Season 3 Confirmed! <snip> And that seems to be the game plan for HBO. Co-president Richard Plepler said at last summer's Television Critics Association press tour that the network would produce the series as long as Martin wanted it to. We shall see... Or until it gets too expensive and they decide to axe it to divert the production money to other less worthwild series like they did with Rome. I don't think Rome would have gotten the axe today - CGI could have alleviated a huge part of the production costs. |
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Posted: 4/11/2012 9:01:03 AM
Does it have any spoilers for book 5? I haven't read it yet. |
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Posted: 4/11/2012 9:30:20 AM
Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
Does it have any spoilers for book 5? I haven't read it yet. You should be fine to read the beginning. It will warn you to stop when the spoilers are coming up. |
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Posted: 4/11/2012 9:36:50 AM
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Originally Posted By -Fozzy-: Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch: Does it have any spoilers for book 5? I haven't read it yet. You should be fine to read the beginning. It will warn you to stop when the spoilers are coming up. Thanks! ETA: For others who haven't read book 2, there is an unannounced spoiler earlier in the interview, right after his discussion about Iceland. Might want to stop reading there. |
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Posted: 4/11/2012 10:01:40 PM
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Posted: 4/15/2012 2:18:00 PM
Is it 9:00 yet?
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Posted: 4/15/2012 8:34:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
Is it 9:00 yet?
I'm getting jittery.
21 minutes. ETA: ARF's clock is off from mine and Verizon's. |
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Posted: 4/15/2012 9:13:49 PM
Ol Margery looks like she hasn't had a good shag...
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Posted: 4/15/2012 9:27:01 PM
ugh, I forgot about this shit. Blech.
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Posted: 4/15/2012 10:04:40 PM
Overall a good episode.
I know some will bitch about the homo scene, but it worked to convey an import part for further down the road. I think they nailed Brienne or however it's spelled and Margery was hot.  I'm not sure about how they condensed Tyrion's and Arya's stories the way they did, but it may have been necessary for the rest of the season. Only time will tell. |
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Posted: 4/15/2012 10:09:55 PM
I'm considering reading the books but are the fraught with homosexual sex also?
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Posted: 4/15/2012 10:14:54 PM
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I thought they did a good job shortening Arya's story. The stuff that got cut was good stuff, and i hate to lose it, but it was a good place to cut for time. The main points that are important to the future are there.
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Posted: 4/15/2012 10:19:57 PM
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Originally Posted By DamascusKnifemaker: I'm considering reading the books but are the fraught with homosexual sex also? None at all through book 4 that i recall. Well, it happened, but it was 'offscreen' and was only referred to subtly. The books only follow the story from the point of view of certain characters, so the reader only knows what they know. Renly and Loras aren't POV characters, so anything they do in private isn't shown. Wait. I just remembered one, but it's a lesbian scene, so the homosexual double-standard will make it okay.
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Posted: 4/15/2012 11:17:31 PM
Originally Posted By Admiral_Crunch:
Originally Posted By DamascusKnifemaker:
I'm considering reading the books but are the fraught with homosexual sex also? None at all through book 4 that i recall. Well, it happened, but it was 'offscreen' and was only referred to subtly. The books only follow the story from the point of view of certain characters, so the reader only knows what they know. Renly and Loras aren't POV characters, so anything they do in private isn't shown. Wait. I just remembered one, but it's a lesbian scene, so the homosexual double-standard will make it okay. It will be more than OK if that makes it into the show. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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