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Posted: 3/11/2012 8:17:10 PM EDT
COLUMBUS – Before getting a prescription for Viagra or other erectile dysfunction drugs, men would have to see a sex therapist, receive a cardiac stress test and get a notarized affidavit signed by a sexual partner affirming impotency, if state Sen. Nina Turner has her way.
The Cleveland Democrat introduced Senate Bill 307 this week. A critic of efforts to restrict abortion and contraception for women, Turner says she is concerned about men’s reproductive health. Turner’s bill joins a trend of female lawmakers submitting bills regulating men’s health. Turner said if state policymakers want to legislate women’s health choices through measures such as House Bill 125, known as the “Heartbeat bill,” they should also be able to legislate men’s reproductive health. Ohio anti-abortion advocates say the two can’t be compared. Heartbeat bill sponsor Rep. Lynn Wachtmann, R-Napoleon, said comparing his bill to Turner’s would be like comparing apples to bananas. The Heartbeat bill would prohibit abortion once a heartbeat is detected, as early as six weeks into a pregnancy. “I understand some women think my bill is a personal affront,” Wachtmann said. “Protecting the unborn — to compare this to Viagra is not even related.” Under Senate Bill 307, men taking the drugs would continue to be tested for heart problems, receive counseling about possible side effects and receive information about “pursuing celibacy as a viable lifestyle choice.” http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/dayton-news/bill-introduced-to-regulate-mens-reproductive-health-1341547.html |
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And to think that people donate money to her to help her get elected |
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yea, because any of that is the same as an embryo, zygote, fetus
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Birth control has nothing to do with Viagra.
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And where is this crap in the Constitution? Same place abortion regulation is. See how easy that is? |
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I can see the part about the cardiac test.
If you can't get it up, it strongly suggests coronary disease. Some doctors don't bother to look into that The rest of it is . |
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And where is this crap in the Constitution? Same place abortion regulation is. See how easy that is? Abortion = killing. Thats in there |
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And where is this crap in the Constitution? Same place abortion regulation is. See how easy that is? Abortion = killing. Thats in there and away we go! |
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I fucking warned you about this. Right here on this site, in GD I fucking warned all you die hards on any subject that you were only seeing the half of the equation you liked.
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I fucking warned you about this. Right here on this site, in GD I fucking warned all you die hards on any subject that you were only seeing the half of the equation you liked. I remember seeing a couple people posting that Viagra would be next. |
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I can see the part about the cardiac test. If you can't get it up, it strongly suggests coronary disease. Some doctors don't bother to look into that The rest of it is . How many recommended tests are covered by state law? Face it, this isn't about standards of care, it's about getting into people's shit as a political statement. |
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And where is this crap in the Constitution? Same place abortion regulation is. See how easy that is? Protecting life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is. The only question is if one believes that the unborn are "things" or humans equally entitled to those protections. |
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And where is this crap in the Constitution? Same place abortion regulation is. See how easy that is? Abortion = killing. Thats in there Please show me where the Constitution specifically gives the federal government the power to pass laws against abortion. Those powers are reserved to the states. Or, more accurately, have been incorporated against the states via the 14th amendment. Birth control and abortion was known and widely practiced in society back to Egyptian times and early Chinese dynasties. It was known, understood, and practiced by women in colonial America. If the framers of the Constitution had considered it to be anywhere near as huge an issue as you apparently do, one thinks they would have made some provision against it in their magnum opus, hmm? No? Or perhaps in some of the state constitutions they had involvement in drafting... Still nothing? Or at least tried to make the case for it in the Federalist Papers or their writings, if it wasn't successfully included in any of those governmental templates...? ...strange, there doesn't seem to be any mention or appearance of the issue in any of those places. It's almost as if... ...as if it wasn't something they believed federal or even state governments should have any involvement in. |
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I can see the part about the cardiac test. If you can't get it up, it strongly suggests coronary disease. Some doctors don't bother to look into that The rest of it is . How many recommended tests are covered by state law? Face it, this isn't about standards of care, it's about getting into people's shit as a political statement. IDK if they use a stress test or other tests to check cardiac function, but I'd prefer to see the standard of care enforced this way than by malpractice cases that are the result of fatal disease that would have been detected if the prescribing physician had done his job properly. And like I said, the rest of it is . |
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One could argue that adequate healthcare is needed to protect life and that's how we get universal healthcare.
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And where is this crap in the Constitution? In the part where such powers are delegated to the states? |
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And where is this crap in the Constitution? Same place abortion regulation is. See how easy that is? Abortion = killing. Thats in there Where does killing appear in the Constitution? |
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And where is this crap in the Constitution? No where but, The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. Don't like it move from Ohio or vote the stupid #$^% out of office. |
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One could argue that adequate healthcare is needed to protect life and that's how we get universal healthcare. interdasting |
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I fucking warned you about this. Right here on this site, in GD I fucking warned all you die hards on any subject that you were only seeing the half of the equation you liked. Yeah but you said it here, which means you might as well have been talking to the wall. |
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What if an old guy just wants to fap? I was unaware a woman needed birth control to use a dildo.
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And where is this crap in the Constitution? Same place abortion regulation is. See how easy that is? Abortion = killing. Thats in there Please show me where the Constitution specifically gives the federal government the power to pass laws against abortion. Those powers are reserved to the states. Or, more accurately, have been incorporated against the states via the 14th amendment. Birth control and abortion was known and widely practiced in society back to Egyptian times and early Chinese dynasties. It was known, understood, and practiced by women in colonial America. If the framers of the Constitution had considered it to be anywhere near as huge an issue as you apparently do, one thinks they would have made some provision against it in their magnum opus, hmm? No? Or perhaps in some of the state constitutions they had involvement in drafting... Still nothing? Or at least tried to make the case for it in the Federalist Papers or their writings, if it wasn't successfully included in any of those governmental templates...? ...strange, there doesn't seem to be any mention or appearance of the issue in any of those places. It's almost as if... ...as if it wasn't something they believed federal or even state governments should have any involvement in. Holy shit, someone that can't wrap their mind around a simple argument in GD! Color me surprised! |
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Was this fuckstick Smiling Bob's neighbor?
Some people just can't stand watching other people enjoy freedom without trying to stick a law where it doesn't belong. |
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And where is this crap in the Constitution? Same place abortion regulation is. See how easy that is? Protecting life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is. The only question is if one believes that the unborn are "things" or humans equally entitled to those protections. Actually, it is not. You're thinking of the Declaration of Independence. ETA: The 5th Amendment protects against the deprivation of life, liberty or property without due process of law. Perhaps that is what you meant. |
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And where is this crap in the Constitution? I say the same thing when it comes to anti-abortion. |
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Funny, but a child is not a disease, and impotence actually is a dysfunction - literally.,
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Men already have no reproductive rights. Very true. In TN, and some other states, if a married man wants to get a vasectomy, his wife has to sign off on it. However, if the same wife gets pregnant and wants an abortion she can get one and the husband does not even have to be told. Where is the equity in that??? |
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Somehow, the only problem I see with this, is that it doesn't get rid of the damn viagra/cialis commercials every 3 minutes on the TV and radio.
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Men already have no reproductive rights. Very true. In TN, and some other states, if a married man wants to get a vasectomy, his wife has to sign off on it. However, if the same wife gets pregnant and wants an abortion she can get one and the husband does not even have to be told. Where is the equity in that??? I'm not so sure that you're right. |
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Somebody should kick her and all politicians in the reproductive area
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I can see the part about the cardiac test. If you can't get it up, it strongly suggests coronary disease. Some doctors don't bother to look into that The rest of it is . It is not about the merits of the idea. The last thing we need is one more thing that requires government permission. Let's regulate Congresswoman Turner's damned dildos by requiring a statement from an electrician, her cardiologist, and the Energizer Bunny. |
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And where is this crap in the Constitution? Same place abortion regulation is. See how easy that is? Abortion = killing. Thats in there Please show me where the Constitution specifically gives the federal government the power to pass laws against abortion. Those powers are reserved to the states. Or, more accurately, have been incorporated against the states via the 14th amendment. Birth control and abortion was known and widely practiced in society back to Egyptian times and early Chinese dynasties. It was known, understood, and practiced by women in colonial America. If the framers of the Constitution had considered it to be anywhere near as huge an issue as you apparently do, one thinks they would have made some provision against it in their magnum opus, hmm? No? Or perhaps in some of the state constitutions they had involvement in drafting... Still nothing? Or at least tried to make the case for it in the Federalist Papers or their writings, if it wasn't successfully included in any of those governmental templates...? ...strange, there doesn't seem to be any mention or appearance of the issue in any of those places. It's almost as if... ...as if it wasn't something they believed federal or even state governments should have any involvement in. Holy shit, someone that can't wrap their mind around a simple argument in GD! Color me surprised! Amendment V No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life liberty, or property, without due process of law, ; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation |
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1. This will make her a hero to feminists and wimpy men
2. This might end up costing her come election time 3. This bill will go nowhere Now with that out of the way, I must say...part of me can't blame her. The amount of laws passed regarding morning after pills, abortion, ultrasounds, blahblahblah is utterly ridiculous. Let women do what they want to do, so I don't have a Facebook news feed littered with posts about birth control from bitches I work with, know from school, and/or are friends with. Their rants make them sound incredibly stupid and annoying, and it usually makes me want to defriend them. Let us stop the nonsense. |
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Lets do the same thing with the pill........see how that goes over!!!
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Quoted: Quoted: And where is this crap in the Constitution? Same place abortion regulation is. See how easy that is? This is the most fail reply I have ever seen. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: And where is this crap in the Constitution? Same place abortion regulation is. See how easy that is? Abortion = killing. Thats in there Please show me where the Constitution specifically gives the federal government the power to pass laws against abortion. Those powers are reserved to the states. Or, more accurately, have been incorporated against the states via the 14th amendment. Birth control and abortion was known and widely practiced in society back to Egyptian times and early Chinese dynasties. It was known, understood, and practiced by women in colonial America. If the framers of the Constitution had considered it to be anywhere near as huge an issue as you apparently do, one thinks they would have made some provision against it in their magnum opus, hmm? No? Or perhaps in some of the state constitutions they had involvement in drafting... Still nothing? Or at least tried to make the case for it in the Federalist Papers or their writings, if it wasn't successfully included in any of those governmental templates...? ...strange, there doesn't seem to be any mention or appearance of the issue in any of those places. It's almost as if... ...as if it wasn't something they believed federal or even state governments should have any involvement in. Double fail. The abortion debate is that the Fed.gov restricts states from passing laws against abortion. The SCOTUS ruled that a woman has a right to privacy and that privacy exceeds the 10th amendment. However, they also said that at some point in the pregnancy, the rights of the fetus outweighs the woman's right to privacy. Therein lies the debate. Go read Roe vs Wade |
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or just fill out the website form for a Canadian Pharmacy website
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Simply put, the govt shouldn't pay for any of it. It is elective, as are most medical procedures these days. It's time to redefine mandatory.
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Men already have no reproductive rights. Very true. In TN, and some other states, if a married man wants to get a vasectomy, his wife has to sign off on it. However, if the same wife gets pregnant and wants an abortion she can get one and the husband does not even have to be told. Where is the equity in that??? This. I had to get my wife to sign off on my vas when we lived in Ohio |
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Quoted: Quoted: And where is this crap in the Constitution? I say the same thing when it comes to anti-abortion. We are endowed by our Creator with certain inalieanable rights, among those are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. |
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And where is this crap in the Constitution? Same place abortion regulation is. See how easy that is? States. They aren't restricted the same way the US Government is. Absent Roe, of course states have the authority to regulate abortion (barring some specific limitation in the state constitution). |
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