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Posted: 3/11/2012 4:47:31 PM
[Last Edit: 3/11/2012 5:15:31 PM by FirearmsFamiliar]
THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT I remember about 7 years ago a gun shop in independence, off 23rd street had gotten robbed while it was open and the owner was laid out in the parking lot with a bashed in head I remember a few black rifles coming up missing I believe... I also think it was two young black males who entered with baseball bats, I do not think a shot was ever fired, but the.clerk was hurt pretty bad. He closed down shortly after. I just do not understand how you can work in a gun shop and get robbed by 2 guys with baseball bats and you never fire a shot. Also that guy was jerk anyways, I remember him kicking me out of the shop when I was 17, because he said I was not old enough to even hold a firearm so there is no reason for me to be in there... I asked him if I was old enough to purchase holsters and gun cleaning kits...asshole. I went to another.shop and bought a holster and cleaning kit for my father as a bday gift. |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 4:49:11 PM
All the time. Heck, I had two pistols stolen by the gunsmith way back in the day.
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Posted: 3/11/2012 4:52:07 PM
Yeah, there have been a few dummies that tried to rob a gun shop and ended up dead. One was shot with a pistol the gunsmith was testing before finishing. It was .38 Super, he had loaded it with .38 Auto (lower pressure variant) and it worked just fine.
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Posted: 3/11/2012 4:52:39 PM
Don't know if it's true but i always heard Hyatts down here had a customer come in, ask to look at an AR, pull a loaded magazine out of his pocket loaded the gun and walked out with it...no workers drew their guns on him with the full shop.
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Posted: 3/11/2012 4:53:35 PM
Herd of crime?
How do you wrangle that herd of crime? |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 4:55:29 PM
There is a show in Louisville I used to goto, National Gun Day, that always seems to have at least one gun stolen a show.
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Posted: 3/11/2012 4:55:35 PM
Originally Posted By Clutch1911: Don't know if it's true but i always heard Hyatts down here had a customer come in, ask to look at an AR, pull a loaded magazine out of his pocket loaded the gun and walked out with it...no workers drew their guns on him with the full shop. One round to his head would have ended that right quick, every clerk in there carries. They did get hit overnight a few years back, from what I remember somebody drove a truck though the front window and grabbed a bunch of stuff. Now they have some nice anti VBIED barriers out front. |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 4:55:46 PM
Originally Posted By KA3B:
Herd of crime? How do you wrangle that herd of crime? With a dikfer. |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 4:57:40 PM
A few shops around here have had walls ripped out so the guns could be taken.
A very well known shop owner locally was closing up shop a few years back and there was an attempted robbery. He cut them down with a FA SW76(?). 2 of 3 guys did not survive, IIRC |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 4:58:34 PM
I've always been suprised MORE crime dosen't happen at gun shows. 90% of the patrons are shady. Guns, ammo, accessories laid all over with people bustling around the tables. It would be easy to have your buddy distract the guy at the table while you slip a pistol in your pocket.
Half the time it takes 10 minutes to get the attention of the vender when you wanna buy soemthing. |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 4:59:42 PM
Only herd of crime I have ever saw consisted of a bunch of fat slobs who were guilty of violating my personal space with their unwashed asses and broken laws of fashion. (Ex. overalls with dress shits, dress pants with flannel shirts.)
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Posted: 3/11/2012 4:59:47 PM
Originally Posted By FirearmsFamiliar:
I just read the post about the stolen firearm in a gun show, I never really thought about crime happening at a place like that... in your area have you ever heard of any kind of crime happening at a gun show or a gun shop while it was open? I remember about 7 years ago a gun shop in independence, off 23rd street had gotten robbed while it was open and the owner was laid out in the parking lot with a bashed in head I remember a few black rifles coming up missing I believe... I also think it was two young black males who entered with baseball bats, I do not think a shot was ever fired, but the.clerk was hurt pretty bad. He closed down shortly after. I just do not understand how you can work in a gun shop and get robbed by 2 guys with baseball bats and you never fire a shot. Also that guy was jerk anyways, I remember him kicking me out of the shop when I was 17, because he said I was not old enough to even hold a firearm so there is no reason for me to be in there... I asked him if I was old enough to purchase holsters and gun cleaning kits...asshole. I went to another.shop and bought a holster and cleaning kit for my father as a bday gift. Cool story bro |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:00:30 PM
Nope but I have heard of a gaggle of crime..
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:01:09 PM
I think I remember a thread here on Arfcom about some asshole stealing bolts out of guns at a show....
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:01:46 PM
Yes.
Theft, I was at one show where a gun was stolen. No, it wasn't me. I couldn't tell you if it was recovered. |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:03:08 PM
No herds, but a have seen a flock of crime. A buddy told me about a pride as well.
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:04:05 PM
Lots of guns stolen at UPS.
I had one taken from their locked up room in Orlando. Its was shipped overnight and should have been tracked and locked up. But it go poof! They had to know it was an employee. But they denied it. |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:07:22 PM
Originally Posted By Keith_J:
Yeah, there have been a few dummies that tried to rob a gun shop and ended up dead. One was shot with a pistol the gunsmith was testing before finishing. It was .38 Super, he had loaded it with .38 Auto (lower pressure variant) and it worked just fine. Some Democrat campaign organizers thugs walked into our local fun store and attempted to rob it. Guess they figured the 1911's on the staff's hips were for show not fo. They fent, and one got fentilated. DRT. Sometimes you need to have a refresher class in evolutionary science. |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:10:39 PM
This just happened here in Central Ohio.
http://www2.nbc4i.com/news/2012/feb/08/12/powell-police-investigate-break-in-at-the-powder-r-ar-926001/ |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:12:05 PM
Originally Posted By Clutch1911:
Don't know if it's true but i always heard Hyatts down here had a customer come in, ask to look at an AR, pull a loaded magazine out of his pocket loaded the gun and walked out with it...no workers drew their guns on him with the full shop. Ballsy! |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:12:43 PM
I was standing at one of the ammo booths at a local gunshow and the guy next to me grabbed a 500 round block of
223, looked around and walked off. I yelled at the guy behind the table to see if he had paid for it and the guy took off after him. police caught him at the door with the ammo guy running behind him yelling. I got a big discount on some 38 spcl  |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:13:38 PM
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Originally Posted By slash61:
Originally Posted By Clutch1911:
Don't know if it's true but i always heard Hyatts down here had a customer come in, ask to look at an AR, pull a loaded magazine out of his pocket loaded the gun and walked out with it...no workers drew their guns on him with the full shop. One round to his head would have ended that right quick, every clerk in there carries. They did get hit overnight a few years back, from what I remember somebody drove a truck though the front window and grabbed a bunch of stuff. Now they have some nice anti VBIED barriers out front. I remember the drive through break in. Those barriers should prevent that now. The story was from well before that. Shooters in Belmont/MT holly had the same ram a truck through the wall theft happen recently but the guys didn't get much. only got into the range and got some beat to hell rental handguns. |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:15:47 PM
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I've seen plenty of theft at shows when I was helping a dealer sell stuff. everything from holsters to guns. It happens all the time.
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:18:49 PM
Originally Posted By Plumber576:
This just happened here in Central Ohio. http://www2.nbc4i.com/mgmedia/image/0/354/71996/powder-room-break-theft-020812-2/ http://www2.nbc4i.com/mgmedia/image/0/354/71995/powder-room-break-theft-020812/ http://www2.nbc4i.com/news/2012/feb/08/12/powell-police-investigate-break-in-at-the-powder-r-ar-926001/ Came in here to post that, I saw it on the news a week or so ago. |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:20:00 PM
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Lots of guns stolen at UPS. I had one taken from their locked up room in Orlando. Its was shipped overnight and should have been tracked and locked up. But it go poof! They had to know it was an employee. But they denied it. UPS fingerprints their employees....Firearms and Legal Narcotics move through there...... but theft still happens.........  |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:20:28 PM
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Didn't gun writer Duane Thomas got his start writing about a gunstore shooting where the employee took out a robber with a 10mm? I'll have to see if I can find more details, I believe it was in WA in the late '80s or early '90s.
Mas wrote a good article on the shootout mentioned earlier where the gunshop owner used a couple class 3 weapons. Edit to modify first sentence to a question, I'm pretty positive that is correct but can't find a reference at this moment. |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:20:46 PM
Originally Posted By Kaygee:
Originally Posted By FirearmsFamiliar:
I just read the post about the stolen firearm in a gun show, I never really thought about crime happening at a place like that... in your area have you ever heard of any kind of crime happening at a gun show or a gun shop while it was open? I remember about 7 years ago a gun shop in independence, off 23rd street had gotten robbed while it was open and the owner was laid out in the parking lot with a bashed in head I remember a few black rifles coming up missing I believe... I also think it was two young black males who entered with baseball bats, I do not think a shot was ever fired, but the.clerk was hurt pretty bad. He closed down shortly after. I just do not understand how you can work in a gun shop and get robbed by 2 guys with baseball bats and you never fire a shot. Also that guy was jerk anyways, I remember him kicking me out of the shop when I was 17, because he said I was not old enough to even hold a firearm so there is no reason for me to be in there... I asked him if I was old enough to purchase holsters and gun cleaning kits...asshole. I went to another.shop and bought a holster and cleaning kit for my father as a bday gift. Cool story bro Cool reply sistuh |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:23:53 PM
Originally Posted By flash556:
Originally Posted By m23shooter:
Lots of guns stolen at UPS. I had one taken from their locked up room in Orlando. Its was shipped overnight and should have been tracked and locked up. But it go poof! They had to know it was an employee. But they denied it. UPS fingerprints their employees....Firearms and Legal Narcotics move through there...... but theft still happens......... I had a .32-40 Ruger No. 1 modified to shoot schuetzen matches stolen by a UPS employee. It went missing at a hub and never turned up. I get a call from the ATF once a year seeing if I have heard anything new. The sad part is that the resale on something like that is practically nil since it is a small community, they probably were hoping for something they could easily resell. It probably ended up in a landfill somewhere.  |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:27:29 PM
Originally Posted By Tango7: Originally Posted By Keith_J: Yeah, there have been a few dummies that tried to rob a gun shop and ended up dead. One was shot with a pistol the gunsmith was testing before finishing. It was .38 Super, he had loaded it with .38 Auto (lower pressure variant) and it worked just fine. Some Democrat campaign organizers thugs walked into our local fun store and attempted to rob it. Guess they figured the 1911's on the staff's hips were for show not fo. They fent, and one got fentilated. DRT. Sometimes you need to have a refresher class in evolutionary science. Nice! It is one thing to hold up a pawn shop but a combat pistolsmith? Pure Darwinism. The turd in the instance I mentioned was the son of a veteran so he was buried at Ft. Sam, the same day I attended a funeral there for a friend's father. That is why I remembered it so well. |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:33:56 PM
There was an open house at my armory and the dumbass full-timer had someone walk off with a pair of NOD's. Ones assigned to my track and signed for by me. That was fun, despite living two hours away it was somehow my fault. "Oooh, he must have stolen them himself and put the empty case back in cold storage".
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:34:59 PM
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Shooting Sports in Tampa had a hostage situation for like 6 hours or something.
The guy was probably fed up with their customer service
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:35:00 PM
The Rochester, NY show generally has one or two stolen firearms each show. Two years ago there was a guy who came in very intoxicated, looking at .50 Caliber rifles and making statements like "those would be great to shoot cops with". He was not arrested but he was escorted out.
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:41:36 PM
There was a shoot out at a local gun store some years ago; the counter guy emptied a handgun at the scumbag but nobody was struck by gunfire and the bad guy escaped.
I'm not going to name the place in Delray Beach though. |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:42:00 PM
One guy at the last show I went to had an EOtech lifted from one of his rifles on display.
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:42:42 PM
Originally Posted By flash556:
Originally Posted By m23shooter:
Lots of guns stolen at UPS. I had one taken from their locked up room in Orlando. Its was shipped overnight and should have been tracked and locked up. But it go poof! They had to know it was an employee. But they denied it. UPS fingerprints their employees....Firearms and Legal Narcotics move through there...... but theft still happens......... I sure as fuck didn't get fingerprinted to work at UPS! |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:46:40 PM
Some may not consider this a crime, but technically speaking, suicide is a crime from what I understand.
That being said, I know of one instance where a female walked in and bought a pistol, loaded it up and attempted to shoot herself in the head. The sales guy lunged across the counter and grabbed it from her. At another local indoor range, a guy was the only one in there and he shot himself in the head. As there were cameras constantly on, it was all caught on tape. |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:46:45 PM
Originally Posted By andrasik:
Originally Posted By flash556:
Originally Posted By m23shooter:
Lots of guns stolen at UPS. I had one taken from their locked up room in Orlando. Its was shipped overnight and should have been tracked and locked up. But it go poof! They had to know it was an employee. But they denied it. UPS fingerprints their employees....Firearms and Legal Narcotics move through there...... but theft still happens......... I sure as fuck didn't get fingerprinted to work at UPS! I did about 1980..... |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:55:27 PM
[Last Edit: 3/11/2012 5:55:52 PM by DaffyDuck]
Was at a gun show one time when a hood rat tried to grab an expensive pair of binoculars and run for the door. Cops were everywhere, but he was nabbed by two 300 lb Cowboy action shooter types, in full dress kinda like Hoss Cartwright. Being pistol whipped by the butt of a Vaquero is almost as bad as the 44 caliber lead it spews. It was not pretty.
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:56:50 PM
There have been firearms stolen at the big gun show in NoVA a few times, one was an AR15 (not exactly easy to put in your pocket and walk out).
I know of a few gun shops also that were broken into, though that guy made the mistake of stealing NFA items from one of them, and tried hitting a second shop but there were still some employees there after hours. He was picked up by law enforcement when he came back for his car later after being scared off. He's still in prison, as far as I know. |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:59:13 PM
my local shop had a guy try to stuff a full length shotgun down his pants and run off. Half the employees of the store drew down and chased him.
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Posted: 3/11/2012 5:59:50 PM
Someone tried walking off with an M60 at the Creek a couple years ago.
Dont remember how that ended. |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 6:02:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Him:
Originally Posted By Clutch1911:
Don't know if it's true but i always heard Hyatts down here had a customer come in, ask to look at an AR, pull a loaded magazine out of his pocket loaded the gun and walked out with it...no workers drew their guns on him with the full shop. Ballsy! I think its urban legend. Maybe its true maybe it aint. I dont know. the story i listed above was told to me by one of the employees at hyatts that was helping with a CCW class i was taking. The point of his story was that all the MFers pulled out guns ready to plug this dumb ass in the middle of the parking lot with people every where over some stupid theft. Concern was possible liability. Dont know about the AR thing simply because Hyatts has a cop at the front door most of the time now. No way your pulling that stunt and some flatfoots not giving chase. |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 6:04:39 PM
Originally Posted By slash61:
Originally Posted By Clutch1911:
Don't know if it's true but i always heard Hyatts down here had a customer come in, ask to look at an AR, pull a loaded magazine out of his pocket loaded the gun and walked out with it...no workers drew their guns on him with the full shop. One round to his head would have ended that right quick, every clerk in there carries. They did get hit overnight a few years back, from what I remember somebody drove a truck though the front window and grabbed a bunch of stuff. Now they have some nice anti VBIED barriers out front. You must be a helluva man if you'd try and pull a gun on a guy with a loaded AR15 pointed at you. 
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Posted: 3/11/2012 6:04:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Him: Would have been better if the gun store employees had pulled all the firing pins in the ARs and knew it. The results would have been hilarious.Originally Posted By Clutch1911: Don't know if it's true but i always heard Hyatts down here had a customer come in, ask to look at an AR, pull a loaded magazine out of his pocket loaded the gun and walked out with it...no workers drew their guns on him with the full shop. Ballsy! ETA: If there was a lot of folks in the shop at the time, letting him walk out was probably a good idea. These things have a tendency of not going as envisioned. |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 6:06:55 PM
If you go to a gunshow and have not researched what you're looking for, you could get raped.
If you do, your bad. Danny |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 6:08:55 PM
Originally Posted By DonnieBrasco:
Originally Posted By Him:
Would have been better if the gun store employees had pulled all the firing pins in the ARs and knew it. The results would have been hilarious.
Originally Posted By Clutch1911:
Don't know if it's true but i always heard Hyatts down here had a customer come in, ask to look at an AR, pull a loaded magazine out of his pocket loaded the gun and walked out with it...no workers drew their guns on him with the full shop. Ballsy! I think that was in a old movie....but the guy could have taken the idea from the movie..... |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 6:10:29 PM
One of the funstores in suburban D.C. had the ol' crash a truck through the front wall, load it up and drive away done to it years ago.
Saw the pictures. They have bollards in front of the store now. |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 6:18:48 PM
Glick twins in pharr, texas has the most guns traced back from the cartels in the entire USA. The owners are assholes, and the prices are grossly over priced.
According to a local cop, they get broken into at least once a month, and it always happens when the owners forget to set the alarm, huh go figure. |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 6:19:41 PM
The owner of a range in northern Bexar County had 2 attempted armed robberies of his gunshop in San Antonio. He and his well prepared employees handled both with no loss or injuries to themselves if I remember correctly. Massad Ayoob (sp?) did a write up of the first incident not long after the second had occurred.
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Posted: 3/11/2012 6:20:28 PM
Originally Posted By Plumber576:
This just happened here in Central Ohio. This brings back memories. I first shot there in the late 70's or early 80's, took my hunter safety class there and bought my first black powder from them. Ahh the memories. |
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Posted: 3/11/2012 6:21:16 PM
There are robberies all the time....
.... but those are usually BY the dealers TO the standard gun show attendee. |
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