lol you guys kill me
first off the gov spending any money on anything not strictly within the constitutional envelope is a problem, no doubt, yet if i were to recommend some severe cuts you guys only want to cut "entitlement" by which you mean the section 8 and foodstamps, not other forms of entitlement such as bennies for gov employees or grants to your pet cause of the day, which of course makes me want to taunt you like a frenchman from atop a castle wall.
secondly, the OP appears to lament not the section8 itself but rather that he must live nextdoor to them and wants to run them off, but in a legal sorta way because apparently walking over there and telling them what he really thinks or getting physical is too much effort.
Thirdly, as I said before, renting your structures through hud is a bad idea and a bad investment unless slum lord is your style, I wouldn't recommend it, I've tried it, its not really proffitable longterm.
And lastly what I took issue with was the overall general tone was hearing, that just because they were section 8 they were scum. Now I tried to point out as an example, how here locally for a lot of women to escape a bad situation the use of section 8 was key due to cultural realities, it allowed them an immediate out during which they could build the social capital that would allow for getting a job and paying rent like the rest of us. Unspoken was the commonly know fact that many get section 8 and stop the self improvement journey at that point because work is for suckers.
You guys came off as a bunch of monocle wearing monopoly bankers deriding reginald's bently because the exhaust is from autozone and not vintage. Now we all know that monopoly banker cat never worked a real job in his life and was probably born entitled to his family's fortune, which adds another layer of delicious irony to the mental image I was getting there.
Then to add pancakes to the porridge you wanted to go grammar nazi on me because I was kind enough to try a phonetic manuever designed to help you hear it the way it sounds with cultural miasma such as accent and slurred speach. Pearls before swine.
English not your first language?
get back to me when you no longer have to press 1 for spanish or 2 for english lol
My family is mostly from Eastern Kentucky by the way. They can all type a coherent sentence.
Their achievment in this regard is most impressive, but not uncommon, you see it was not a lack of ability but a choice of flair. I'm sorry you failed to appreciate that.
Other than that I have nothing to add besides the obvious.
cats are superior pets to dogs?
You have zero entitlement to free housing no matter how unfortunate your situation.
but that wasn't really the issue
It is a proven fact that public housing developments and section 8/HUD programs breed crime and destroy neighborhoods and schools wherever try are placed.
No, actually, it is not a proven fact, as cultural and economic issues tend to have an air of the subjective along with a high "x" factor, if you will recall your sociology you will remember that correlation is not causality, something we had to argue with liberal shitbag instructors constantly where firearms and crime is concerned.
But I'd lean toward agreeing that the social norms of the type of persons who typically fill the section 8 housing outside of rural appalachia and particularly in urban and suburban areas, does easily lend itself to behaviors that negatively impact the crime statistics just the way you suggest.
Trash is trash and calling trash what it is does not make one a holier than thou elitist snob.
Agreed! however, it is no more an absolute that one in section 8 housing is trash ( as I tried to communicate) than it is an absolute that one wearing khakis and a polo living in a nice mcmansion is an embezzling kiddie diddler. You could say however, that the odds are perhaps good though...(on both counts? lol!)
That you can't understand why people who work hard for a living don't want to see their tax dollars used to ruin their neighborhoods is suggestive of something.
That you seem to not understand that I do understand, because I don't want to pay for such fraud waste and abuse either, is also suggestive of something. Now, many a miner or lumberjack or welder or steel-mill worker does lament this very thing and yes they work hard no doubt....but the yacht club, paris hilton, some financeer (fancy word for con artist?) has the same lament despite the lack or real actual hard work (dependant of course on the definition of work).
I've personally been in many homes where the customers are the subdivision mcmansion types, with way too many annoying yapping dogs, and despite the visual cleanliness where found the odor of dog habitation is disgraceful.....I've also been in shacks that belong in the third world where the smell of the burning coal in the stoker was much preferable, so based on that alone I'd be hesitant to engage in class warfare from the rich end while pretending I'm not.
One fine upstanding faux-rich customer I'd met, up to his ass in debt btw, was a finacial advisor....the racket he ran was effectively a pawn shop when you boil it down to its essence.....yet he'd be the type to oppose opening an actual ak47-on-the-wall pawn shop in his neighborhood.
Now, consider this, around here you have a lot of guys, some with families, who are in the national guard or just out of active duty, who live in section 8 and draw foodstamps, their income allows for it and in a lot of cases the economic reality dictates that unless some new industry breaks open nearby, their choice is that, leave the area, or criminal activity for the most part. Would you call them scum and seek to pre-emptively evict them with social detterence as well?
Now I'm all for ending entitlements, ALL of them, on both ends of the teat.....but it must be both ends.
As I said, class warfare is an ugly thing, and works in both directions, no one political party owns it. Threads such as this serve as "proof" to the ignorant that the democrats are right and that they are "for the poor people" while other parties are for the "already entitled". This does not serve our cause well I fear.
I can type "That son of a bitch is not destroying my property if I can prevent it" but when I say it or hear it in my head it's more like "at sumbitch ainta fuckin my couch up i'll kill his damn ass".
In the future, if most of you cannot rub enough synapses together to pick up on this and understand it, I shall endeavor to alter the language further to spite and belittle you.
Tis' the least I can do
"...at damn shakespear nevah writ no numbah one country western chart toppin hit!!"