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Link Posted: 3/9/2012 8:19:20 AM EDT
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There is virutally nothing you can do. Once the people move in they have more rights than the actual owner. You neighbors are screwed.


as if property values weren't bad enough, this will make it even worse!
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 8:30:01 AM EDT
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The people who own the house next door to mine rented their house out to some gypsies. Not Section 8, just trashy. Three generations under one roof, between 15-20 people living there. About 7 new luxury cars parked all up and down the street. None of the school-aged kids EVER went to school, they just played in the backyard and on the street all day. Loud, rude, creepy people.

It turned out that from the day they moved in, they never paid a cent in rent. They lived there about 3-4 months while the eviction process was taking place.

One day they just dissapeared. When the owner showed up, all the wood floors had been pulled up and stolen, light fixtures gone, etc.

The owner of the house came to us in a fit; we told them it served them right.
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 8:35:13 AM EDT
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After katrina destroyed new orleans they bussed a shit ton of that trash to this area, built them brand new buildings and within a year the building were destroyed.

It got so bad that after 5yrs the build new appt complexes for them and moved them in there and demod the old ones. Now the new ones are starting to get destroyed and they have begun building new appt complexes to move them again.

Section 8 trash is a plague that cant be stopped


We had a group of "disadvantaged youths" from a rather infamous town given free ride to the college that I attended in Oklahoma.
Some genius decided it would be a good idea to put them all on the same side of a dorm complex.
These were open face dorms, meaning right on the other side of your door was outside- like a motel 6 or something.

Anyways, within 2 weeks there were piles of trash, gang tags, 2-3 other non-students living in with the occupants, music blaring till 3am, running off "escorts", Campus police were always there, etc.
I literally watched them walk outside with a trash can and just dump it on the lawn.
It was a situation that literally took care of itself as not a one of them ever went to class. Come midterms they had flunked out of their classes and were sent back to their hometown.

People of this ilk cannot and will not prosper or change their ways- no matter how much free or reduced cost shit you give em. As others have said, they are a cancer and theyll destroy a perfectly good situation in no time at all.
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 8:39:13 AM EDT
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The people who own the house next door to mine rented their house out to some gypsies. Not Section 8, just trashy. Three generations under one roof, between 15-20 people living there. About 7 new luxury cars parked all up and down the street. None of the school-aged kids EVER went to school, they just played in the backyard and on the street all day. Loud, rude, creepy people.



It turned out that from the day they moved in, they never paid a cent in rent. They lived there about 3-4 months while the eviction process was taking place.



One day they just dissapeared. When the owner showed up, all the wood floors had been pulled up and stolen, light fixtures gone, etc.



The owner of the house came to us in a fit; we told them it served them right.


This.  It makes no difference whether renters are collecting a .gov subsidy or not.  The important thing is how careful the landlord is at selecting renters.  I have a neighbor who lives in an older house at the front of his property, and rents out five apartment units in the back to Section 8 tenants.  The tenants are clean and quiet, and their presence has NOT resulted in a crime problem in the area.



Absentee landlords tend to have the worst tenants.  A landlord who lives on the same parcel as the rental is likely to take good care of the place.



 
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 8:39:56 AM EDT
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The staunch defenders of private property rights are strangely absent from this thread.

Let's take a little trip down memory lane...

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1232008_California_City_Fines_Couple_for_Holding_Bible_Study_in_Their_Home.html


Apples and Oranges.

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Yes.

One is an established nuisance.  The other is only a potential nuisance.

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How many Bible study groups do you know of that introduce crime or reduce property values to all the neighbors in the area?
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 8:40:42 AM EDT
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The staunch defenders of private property rights are strangely absent from this thread.





Let's take a little trip down memory lane...





http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1232008_California_City_Fines_Couple_for_Holding_Bible_Study_in_Their_Home.html








Apples and Oranges.





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Yes.





One is an established nuisance.  The other is only a potential nuisance.





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How many Bible study groups do you know of that introduce crime or reduce property values to all the neighbors in the area?



Have you ever tried to sell a house when there are 50+ cars belonging to non-residents parked on the street?





 
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 8:41:07 AM EDT
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Watch the movie "Stepbrothers". That's how it's done.
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 8:44:33 AM EDT
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The staunch defenders of private property rights are strangely absent from this thread.

Let's take a little trip down memory lane...

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1232008_California_City_Fines_Couple_for_Holding_Bible_Study_in_Their_Home.html


Apples and Oranges.

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Yes.

One is an established nuisance.  The other is only a potential nuisance.

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How many Bible study groups do you know of that introduce crime or reduce property values to all the neighbors in the area?

Have you ever tried to sell a house when there are 50+ cars belonging to non-residents parked on the street?
 


Is the Bible study all day every day that there are 50+ cars there all the time?

My neighbors have teenage daughters and there are times of the year when the street has cars parked in every available space from one side of the street to the other for an evening because a family will be hosting a party.  As long as the kids behave it's never been a problem.

Not nearly the same thing as section 8 housing.
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 8:54:49 AM EDT
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...My neighbors have teenage daughters and there are times of the year when the street has cars parked in every available space from one side of the street to the other for an evening because a family will be hosting a party.  As long as the kids behave it's never been a problem.



Not nearly the same thing as section 8 housing.


Section 8 housing doesn't necessarily ruin a neighborhood.  ANY bad renters (which are usually a result of bad landlords who don't select renters carefully) can screw things up.



The OP is up in arms about a problem that hasn't happened yet, and may not happen at all.



 
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 8:57:01 AM EDT
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The staunch defenders of private property rights are strangely absent from this thread.

Let's take a little trip down memory lane...

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1232008_California_City_Fines_Couple_for_Holding_Bible_Study_in_Their_Home.html


I don't see the comparison. Section 8 is paid for by my money, so that automatically makes it my business and takes the "private" away from the discussion.
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 8:57:03 AM EDT
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What's next, a thread on how to stop "loud rapid fire gun owning neighbors?" I thought this was a conservative site, not DU






What's the matter?  Your troll comment on page 3 got ignored, so now you have to come back and try it again?







Maybe you can explain to me how the government forcing who can live where is a conservative thing?



Because all I can do is go...................



I know you agree with me but you might have some ideas I haven't thought of?



As for the government telling them where to live its simple. The government pays their rent therefore the government has the right to dictate where they live. Take the king's shilling, do the king's bidding as it were.





 
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 9:00:52 AM EDT
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What's next, a thread on how to stop "loud rapid fire gun owning neighbors?" I thought this was a conservative site, not DU


You've obviously never lived near section 8 housing units.


Nor busted your ass most of your life to be able to live in a "decent" neighborhood.

Fuck Section 8ers, the do-gooders, and the greedy "I want a .gov check" property-owners that enable them to exist..

Link Posted: 3/9/2012 9:02:14 AM EDT
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...My neighbors have teenage daughters and there are times of the year when the street has cars parked in every available space from one side of the street to the other for an evening because a family will be hosting a party.  As long as the kids behave it's never been a problem.

Not nearly the same thing as section 8 housing.

Section 8 housing doesn't necessarily ruin a neighborhood.  ANY bad renters (which are usually a result of bad landlords who don't select renters carefully) can screw things up.

The OP is up in arms about a problem that hasn't happened yet, and may not happen at all.
 


Section 8 housing just tends to have a significantly higher proportion of bad renters, doesn't it.
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 9:02:44 AM EDT
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The staunch defenders of private property rights are strangely absent from this thread.



Let's take a little trip down memory lane...



http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1232008_California_City_Fines_Couple_for_Holding_Bible_Study_in_Their_Home.html





I don't see the comparison. Section 8 is paid for by my money, so that automatically makes it my business and takes the "private" away from the discussion.


That doesn't give you, as a neighbor, any more say over what your neighbors do with their property than it gives to any other taxpayer in the country.



What IS your business is whether or not your neighbors, whether they rent or own, are obeying the law.  If not, your recourse is to call LEOs, local zoning department, etc.  If they are law-abiding, it's none of your business who lives there or where their rent money comes from.



 
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 9:04:14 AM EDT
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...My neighbors have teenage daughters and there are times of the year when the street has cars parked in every available space from one side of the street to the other for an evening because a family will be hosting a party.  As long as the kids behave it's never been a problem.



Not nearly the same thing as section 8 housing.


Section 8 housing doesn't necessarily ruin a neighborhood.  ANY bad renters (which are usually a result of bad landlords who don't select renters carefully) can screw things up.



The OP is up in arms about a problem that hasn't happened yet, and may not happen at all.

 


Section 8 housing just tends to have a significantly higher proportion of bad renters, doesn't it.


Not in my recent personal experience in my own neighborhood, and YMMV.  I've owned my home since 1994, and have seen shithead renters of all stripes.  I've also seen plenty of decent people who rent.



 
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 9:06:05 AM EDT
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The staunch defenders of private property rights are strangely absent from this thread.

Let's take a little trip down memory lane...

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1232008_California_City_Fines_Couple_for_Holding_Bible_Study_in_Their_Home.html


I don't see the comparison. Section 8 is paid for by my money, so that automatically makes it my business and takes the "private" away from the discussion.

That doesn't give you, as a neighbor, any more say over what your neighbors do with their property than it gives to any other taxpayer in the country.

What IS your business is whether or not your neighbors, whether they rent or own, are obeying the law.  If not, your recourse is to call LEOs, local zoning department, etc.  If they are law-abiding, it's none of your business who lives there or where their rent money comes from.
 


Why not? SO what you are saying is that someone can take my money under duress and then I have not a say in how that is spent?  If the government takes my money and then uses it to support social parasites who will destroy my neighborhood, I've got no say?   The property owner wilingly takes a taxpayer money but the taxpayer has no say in the use of said money?  That is a pretty lousy concept.

Here's a deal. DOn't want my input on what to do with your property?  Don't take my money to maintain/profit off it.
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 9:06:44 AM EDT
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Has the solution of buying a nice housewarming gift, like a turkey fryer, 10 gallons of peanut oil, and a bottle of Jack Daniels, been mentioned yet?

EDIT.  And a turkey, no sense in being cheap.
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 9:09:08 AM EDT
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...That doesn't give you, as a neighbor, any more say over what your neighbors do with their property than it gives to any other taxpayer in the country.



What IS your business is whether or not your neighbors, whether they rent or own, are obeying the law.  If not, your recourse is to call LEOs, local zoning department, etc.  If they are law-abiding, it's none of your business who lives there or where their rent money comes from.

 


Why not? SO what you are saying is that someone can take my money under duress and then I have not a say in how that is spent?  If the government takes my money and then uses it to support social parasites who will destroy my neighborhood, I've got no say?   The property owner wilingly takes a taxpayer money but the taxpayer has no say in the use of said money?  That is a pretty lousy concept.



Here's a deal. DOn't want my input on what to do with your property?  Don't take my money to maintain/profit off it.


Your say on how your tax money is spent consists of who you elect to Congress, and any communications you have with your elected officials.  Living near someone who has chosen to participate in a government rent subsidy program doesn't give you any special privileges.



 
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 9:42:24 AM EDT
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What's next, a thread on how to stop "loud rapid fire gun owning neighbors?" I thought this was a conservative site, not DU


You've obviously never lived near section 8 housing units.


No, its just what he does. He likes to do troll "drive bys". Most people have learned to ignore him...kinda like his first post in this thread.
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 11:02:00 AM EDT
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There are parts of the country where those type of people havent really moved to yet.  Live in one of those places.  When I was deciding where to move to, that was one of my big criteria.  A majority of the population that looks, acts, talks, and somewhat thinks like me.  So far so good.  And violent crime is also extremely low.  Property crime isnt bad either.  You can leave your stuff unlocked it you want mostly.  Who would have thought.
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 11:05:28 AM EDT
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What's next, a thread on how to stop "loud rapid fire gun owning neighbors?" I thought this was a conservative site, not DU


What the blue fuck are you talking about????!

Link Posted: 3/9/2012 11:10:14 AM EDT
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isn't it up to the homeowner to rent it to a section 8 tenant if they want?  I've never heard of the state 'designating' a house as section 8.


Come to the People's Republic of Northern Virginia.

My county buys townhomes and single family homes for "section 8" housing. They put in a block of such units in a townhome neighborhood about a quarter mile from my otherwise quiet neighborhood and in an amazing coincidence, I'm sure, within a few days of those units being populated our neighborhood starting having a rash of vandalism, smash and grabs from cars, and tagging in the neighborhood park. Fucking liberals.


Finding a decent townhome or apartment (or even a small single family home) in NOVA is rediculous.  Your options are pretty much always go expensive (like in the 500k -1m range) or go farther out. But the later is a bitch if you have to commute.
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 11:12:19 AM EDT
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The empty house next door to me appears to have been turned in to a section 8,  It's not "rented" yet, but people have been looking.  Is their anything I can do within the law to stop it from being section 8?


Do realize that there are government programs designed to create mixed neighborhoods by putting low income people in houses like that?  

That's right, you see the poor and criminals are only poor and criminals because they don't have the same oppertunities you do.  If they lived in the same nice neighborhood and attended the same nice schools then they would become very productive and honest citizens.  I shit you not, that is how the government thinks and they have programs designed to make this happen.  Don't blama Obama for it either, it started under GW Bush, and was part of the push to force banks to write loans to people who were a bad fit for buying a house.  They even tried to help these people out by letting them use their housing voucher to pay their mortgage.  Welcome to the liberal utopia.
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 11:13:06 AM EDT
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Find yourself a Crown Vic Interceptor.  Paint it all black.  Put a bumper bar on it. Mount a bunch of little antennaes on it.

Park it in the driveway across the street from the house.


WIN!



One of my rentals is right next door to the home of a Sheriff's Deputy.  Whenever my "For Rent" sign goes up, he starts parking his squad car in his driveway.

I love it.  It's a self-cleaning oven.  



I hope you take good care of that deputy.  Such as inviting him to go shooting, bringing over fresh baked bread, or some other kind gesture.




I ensure that he has good neighbors.

Right now, he has a young Marine Corps officer and his wife.

Link Posted: 3/9/2012 11:29:47 AM EDT
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Move to a better neighborhood.


Really, the only viable solution if you have the flow.  If homes in your neighborhood are going "section 8", your property-along with everybody else's-will lose value.  

Better to cut your losses now if you can confirm the rumor.
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 11:29:47 AM EDT
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WTF is up with all the double taps today?
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 11:41:43 AM EDT
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WTF is up with all the double taps today?


You're military, so you have better access to the happy switch.
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 11:43:09 AM EDT
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WTF is up with all the double taps today?


solar flares, or the FBIs monitoring equipment is on the fritz again...
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 11:45:30 AM EDT
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In case it hasn't been said before:
Herp, derp
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 11:47:18 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/9/2012 11:53:39 AM EDT
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Really?  Is that phrase now unwelcome on the site?
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 11:56:13 AM EDT
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...That doesn't give you, as a neighbor, any more say over what your neighbors do with their property than it gives to any other taxpayer in the country.

What IS your business is whether or not your neighbors, whether they rent or own, are obeying the law.  If not, your recourse is to call LEOs, local zoning department, etc.  If they are law-abiding, it's none of your business who lives there or where their rent money comes from.
 

Why not? SO what you are saying is that someone can take my money under duress and then I have not a say in how that is spent?  If the government takes my money and then uses it to support social parasites who will destroy my neighborhood, I've got no say?   The property owner wilingly takes a taxpayer money but the taxpayer has no say in the use of said money?  That is a pretty lousy concept.

Here's a deal. DOn't want my input on what to do with your property?  Don't take my money to maintain/profit off it.

Your say on how your tax money is spent consists of who you elect to Congress, and any communications you have with your elected officials.  Living near someone who has chosen to participate in a government rent subsidy program doesn't give you any special privileges.
 


IT has nothing to do with the concept of "special privileges" ( a pretty insulting dismissal of the people who actually pay the bills) and everything to do with the sense of entitlement of the welfare class and their enablers.
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 11:59:35 AM EDT
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Really?  Is that phrase now unwelcome on the site?


I dont know if it is/was unwelcome on this site, but it was certainly unwelcome when I (and others) used it on page 1.

As for any other thread within this site, I have no idea...
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 12:09:20 PM EDT
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...My neighbors have teenage daughters and there are times of the year when the street has cars parked in every available space from one side of the street to the other for an evening because a family will be hosting a party.  As long as the kids behave it's never been a problem.

Not nearly the same thing as section 8 housing.

Section 8 housing doesn't necessarily ruin a neighborhood.  ANY bad renters (which are usually a result of bad landlords who don't select renters carefully) can screw things up.

The OP is up in arms about a problem that hasn't happened yet, and may not happen at all.
 



I don't know of *ONE* neighborhood that has been improved by Section 8. Not one. I personally know of many that hace been destroyed by Section 8.
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 12:15:27 PM EDT
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Yeah, I tend to try to stay within my class (meaning:  socio-economic ability/status, NOT a denomination/race/color of skin/sex) when I move.  

I don't want to be around people who use intimidation to get what they want, and I'll be "that guy" where I'm moving because I can make the place bombproof.  

I'm not afraid of being broken into, and they would be stupid to try.

I WOULD ALWAYS keep at least one really big dog (150lb breed) when I own a property (I don't let them bark, and I clean up their shit).  I would then figure out which pieces of fence are my responsibility, tear them down, and re-build them better (minimum 8 ft wood).  I would use screws w/glue, and concrete the posts. I figure it would be best to use double the posts as recommended.

Being the hardest person to fuck with usually means that you aren't the one fucked with.  Pussies hit the softest targets unless they are trying to create fear.  Once you put them on notice that you mean business, and aren't afraid of them..........things usually work out in your favor.

Then once you have everything squared, cars garaged unless you are home, and a good fence and dog that has the run of the house/yard, and some security lighting..........

Start upping the code violations.  If they cross the line even a bit, sick the proper authority on them.  They will fight back in the beginning, doing petty shit.  But that's really just small price to pay for some peace and quiet.  If they are renters that aren't problematic, then they shouldn't have a problem living within the rules of the land.  If they can't, let them hang themselves.
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 12:22:45 PM EDT
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Rent your house out too and move someplace better. Someplace with at least a couple acres between you and your neighbors.  Yeah it might cost you a bit more in gas to drive to work but its worth it!  Houses are cheap right now. Its a good time to buy!

Link Posted: 3/9/2012 12:24:04 PM EDT
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Rent your house out too and move someplace better. Someplace with at least a couple acres between you and your neighbors.  Yeah it might cost you a bit more in gas to drive to work but its worth it!  Houses are cheap right now. Its a good time to buy!



It depends.

The housing market in CO is picking up a bit.  We had a bit of difficulty finding one before it disappeared.
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 12:35:04 PM EDT
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In my neighborhood, houses that sell for less than $200,000 are teardowns and are rebuilt at prices exceeding $500,000.  During the housing slowdown, some of the builders took their inventory of teardown homes and rented them out or put them out as section 8.   The crime rate in the section 8 homes skyrocketed out of sight and the homeowners went crazy.  Cops were called multiple times daily and burglaries increased by 10 fold.  

     One house was the majority of the problems.  They went to Detroit over the fourth of July holiday and mysteriously a garden hose fell through the open window into the kitchen while the water was turned on.  The city was there on Monday morning and declared the house unhabitable and to be torn down.  

     The homeowners filled up the neighborhood meeting with the builders and the police.  The threat was made that the builders would never get another building permit or variance if any home were EVER rented SECTION 8.    Guess what ???  The crime rate is back to near zero.
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 1:20:59 PM EDT
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dude thats bad news for you, because either people dont know, dont show, or dont care about whats happening in the hood.

I say ALL OF THE ABOVE
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 1:26:10 PM EDT
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and if someone reports my last post they are dumb... its a quote from the movie.
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 1:29:06 PM EDT
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The people who own the house next door to mine rented their house out to some gypsies.


...and I know exactly how that story ends.  No point in reading any further.
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 1:53:53 PM EDT
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I'm about to turn a house I have had for sale for about a year into section 8 housing. Damn neighbors got caught telling potential buyers that the house is a POS and has a giant sinkhole in the backyard. None of it is true, so I'm going to tell them to get fucked by making it section 8.


Why would they do such a thing?
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 2:08:54 PM EDT
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The staunch defenders of private property rights are strangely absent from this thread.

Let's take a little trip down memory lane...

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1232008_California_City_Fines_Couple_for_Holding_Bible_Study_in_Their_Home.html


May I suggest you go to dictionary.com and look up definitions for "private" and "public" and cross-reference this with where the funding is coming from.

In case you don't feel like doing that, I'll make this brief:

If I'm footing the bill, I get a say over what happens.

If others are paying, and it does me no harm, then THEY have say over what happens.
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 2:42:43 PM EDT
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How can you find out if has started in your area?
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 3:17:50 PM EDT
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I'm about to turn a house I have had for sale for about a year into section 8 housing. Damn neighbors got caught telling potential buyers that the house is a POS and has a giant sinkhole in the backyard. None of it is true, so I'm going to tell them to get fucked by making it section 8.


Why would they do such a thing?




Probably because he wasn't a good boy somewhere along the line. I had a few minor problems like that early on. It wasn't so much that I out and out pissed anybody off so much as I was a loose cannon, although I told a few people off a couple of times.

It reaaly isn't hard to have people scared of you until they find out that you're not a whole lot different than they are.

It took a little time but now the neighbors look to me when there is a problem.

Last May when I got my ham license (only) one of the idiots down the street went into a dither fearing a huge microwave tower in the front yard.

People are scared by what they do not understand. They want everything to be in neat catagories.

Try being a black and moving to a predominately white neighborhood. At first the neighbors start flipping out until they get to realize the guy is, for example just another guy trying to raise a couple of kids that works as the IT guy for a big law firm. Then the fear goes away and it isn't long before you hope he's going to throw another barbecue next Fourth of July and make those killer ribs again.







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different shoe sizes fer different feet...

but rural appalachia is poor and has unique cultural problems so i speak from there when i tell you this....

if section 8 is hud a couple things....

firstly never rent thru hud you get gov fucked. for real. it will cost u more for persistent repairs than you will gain in rent money.


secondly, just cuz sum1 rents this way doesnt make them scum or means yer house nextdoor will be caught in a methlab splosion....


for example, lotta boys i worked with, miners, gots womans to breed they seed, they gots plenty others to swallow and bathe in it, they can be prone to mistreat and starve a bitch. so lotta these women divorcin got no other option really, short o robbing you at gunpoint if you prefer.

course, a hand up where they on hud for a couple years before becoming productive is a far cry from the tales from gary indianna i hear where entire genrations are on hud.

lotta these gals got no skills outsida home-making, was largely banned from gettin any by family and church, now w/o their wife beatin hard drinkin whore chasin men they gotta try to make it w/o robbin banks or sellin drugs.

are you agin givin sumone a chance to get better?

why should they try then, why shouldnt they then just hunt yer ass down and kill you while yer on the shitter or arguin with the printer repairman and take yer shit an pawn it, least then they wouldnt have yer down the nose holier than thou stench to deal with and could hold their heads high and say "wow my low class ass totally kilt that hi class mofo and  took his shit i guess im better than him"

class warfare is a 2 way street you know and democrats dont own it.



Tomorrow, I think you need to find your high school English teacher.

When you do, slap them.



I think that is satire in the spirit of A Modest Proposal.  I hope.


I agree, but oddly it had the effect of making me want to take a shower wash my eyes with bleach.


fixed it for you
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 4:04:25 PM EDT
[#48]
I wonder what would happen if you bought a foreclosed McMansion on one of those every-McMansion-on-a-quarter-acre-lot tracks for pennies on the dollar, then converted it into a 4 unit rental, then rented them all out to Section 8?






 
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 4:07:30 PM EDT
[#49]
Link Posted: 3/9/2012 4:49:52 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Doesn't surprise me at all stangboy.

My old neighbor "Joe", black guy retired Navy threw a FIT when the HUD complexes opened. Boy was he pissed off. He put in probably 20+ years in the Navy to support him and his wife, to get out of the ghetto and get into a nicer neighborhood only to have the .gov move the ghetto into his neighborhood. It was a nice neighborhood too, our homes averaged about $200k, the ones across the street were about $400k, to the left of them were million dollar homes on the river, to the right were two huge HUD complexes whose residents had to make less than $20k to qualify. . I finally said screw it around the 2008, got tired of having to stop in the middle of the road because the guy in front of me had to stop and "holla" at the girl walking down the street. Having to stop in the Subway parking lot and wait for the car in front of me to finish their drug deal. Tired of watching baby mama's paying for steaks and shit with their food stamp cards just to walk out to their nice cars. Tired of being asked for "fiddy cents so I's can get dis blunt" at the gas station. Tired of having to look over my shoulder everywhere I go.

Fuck that.
 


I lived on the Westside, off 103rd St...went to N.B. Forrest High School....trust me, I know your pain.
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