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Posted: 2/27/2012 6:15:41 AM EDT
Damn, google finally killed my beloved scroogle.scraper.com, which scrubbed the searches and deleted all records within 48 hours.

I feel so naked now.

Question for the web gurus: Which search engine is the least intrusive into my privacy? Any tips for keeping my search history on the low-down?

Thanks...
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 6:20:02 AM EDT
I'd love to know, too.

After reading about google keeping all search records forever, I want to find an alternative. I never realized that there were already years worth of search history they had on me.
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 6:23:08 AM EDT
duckduckgo
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 6:23:25 AM EDT
If you want to browse porn without anyone knowing, I always thought that just installing another, different browser and deleting any icons/shortcut so you could only access the browser through the program files seemed pretty simple...


Speed
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 6:24:57 AM EDT
Search engines exist for the purpose of recording your searches and selling your information to advertisers. None of them are going to be protective of your privacy. Use the one that works the best for you. If you're really paranoid, create a bunch of virtual machines, use a service like TOR and use a different versions of [browser] on each virtual machine.
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 6:29:55 AM EDT


Oh boy here we go, everyone ready.......

Was the Stop Online Privacy Act just invented as a way of using up political capital so that google could get away with this?

Typically you can't have two big campaigns in a row. People only have so much will power to participate. They used up all the rage on SOPA. Was it to get it out of our systems so we wouldn't protest this?

Link Posted: 2/27/2012 6:34:52 AM EDT
Isn't Google's new tracking' deal going into effect in March? I heard a report on the radio about. The report sounded like their were going to start tracking and referring you to other sites. Then the report cut to some guy saying that this change was needed to "protect our privacy" sounded like less privacy to me. Probably a good time to switch (pre-March).
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 6:48:11 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Harvster:
duckduckgo



Hell, yeah.

Link Posted: 2/27/2012 6:49:21 AM EDT
startpage
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 6:52:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
startpage


Thank you for that
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 6:58:01 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Danner130:
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
startpage


Thank you for that


no problem friend
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 7:09:22 AM EDT
tag
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 7:36:07 AM EDT
Bing
Altavista

??
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 7:39:16 AM EDT
Originally Posted By TxLewis:
tag


Ditto

Link Posted: 2/27/2012 7:46:45 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 8:29:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
startpage

WOW! Very cool, thanks!


Link Posted: 2/27/2012 9:18:44 AM EDT
Originally Posted By StewartTR:
www.startpage.com



So if you are looking to get away from Google what is with the "enhanced by Google" on their home page?
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 9:22:00 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Snips:
Search engines exist for the purpose of recording your searches and selling your information to advertisers. None of them are going to be protective of your privacy.


But I have a right to use someone else's property for free so I can search the internet. I am the 99%.

Link Posted: 2/27/2012 9:27:51 AM EDT
Originally Posted By LonghunterCO:
Originally Posted By StewartTR:
www.startpage.com



So if you are looking to get away from Google what is with the "enhanced by Google" on their home page?


Startpage offers you Web search results from Google in complete privacy!

When you search with Startpage, we remove all identifying information from your query and submit it anonymously to Google ourselves. We get the results and return them to you in total privacy.

Your IP address is never recorded, your visit is not logged, and no tracking cookies are placed on your browser. When it comes to protecting your privacy, Startpage runs the tightest ship on the Internet. Our outstanding privacy policy and thoughtful engineering give you great search results in total anonymity. Here are some of our key features:

•Free proxy surfing available.
•Praised by privacy experts worldwide.
•Twelve-year company track record.
•Third-party certified.
•No IP address recorded.
•No record is made of your searches.
•No identifying or tracking cookies used.
•Powerful SSL encryption available.
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 9:29:38 AM EDT
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/02/08/corporations-executives-closely-watching-impact-google-executive-egypt/

As much as I like Google as a search engine...I would just as soon support another company.
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 9:37:07 AM EDT
It seems that startpage censors their results.


Link Posted: 2/27/2012 10:06:47 AM EDT
Originally Posted By g3shooter:
It seems that startpage censors their results.


What do you base this on?
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 10:14:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By LonghunterCO:
Originally Posted By StewartTR:
www.startpage.com



So if you are looking to get away from Google what is with the "enhanced by Google" on their home page?


Startpage does the same thing that Scroogle did. Actually, Startpage is arguably even better, as it doesn't record your IP at all and it also gives you the option to click on search result links via a proxy.
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 10:20:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/27/2012 10:21:43 AM EDT by CrunchyUncle]
Originally Posted By HarryStone:
Originally Posted By Snips:
Search engines exist for the purpose of recording your searches and selling your information to advertisers. None of them are going to be protective of your privacy.


But I have a right to use someone else's property for free so I can search the internet. I am the 99%.



you again... lemme guess i am a conspiracy theorist for believing that the NSA does not actually run Google?
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 10:21:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By dbrowne1:
Originally Posted By LonghunterCO:
Originally Posted By StewartTR:
www.startpage.com



So if you are looking to get away from Google what is with the "enhanced by Google" on their home page?


Startpage does the same thing that Scroogle did. Actually, Startpage is arguably even better, as it doesn't record your IP at all and it also gives you the option to click on search result links via a proxy.


thanks :)
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 10:21:47 AM EDT
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
Originally Posted By HarryStone:
Originally Posted By Snips:
Search engines exist for the purpose of recording your searches and selling your information to advertisers. None of them are going to be protective of your privacy.


But I have a right to use someone else's property for free so I can search the internet. I am the 99%.



you again... lemme guess i am a conspiracy theorist for believing that the NSA actually runs Google?


Yes, if you actually believe that then you are a conspiracy theorist.
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 10:35:37 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Snips:
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
Originally Posted By HarryStone:
Originally Posted By Snips:
Search engines exist for the purpose of recording your searches and selling your information to advertisers. None of them are going to be protective of your privacy.


But I have a right to use someone else's property for free so I can search the internet. I am the 99%.



you again... lemme guess i am a conspiracy theorist for believing that the NSA actually runs Google?


Yes, if you actually believe that then you are a conspiracy theorist.


wow...really?

more conspiracy shit

combine that with the patriot act..and tell me who really has power?
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 10:36:53 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Snips:
Originally Posted By g3shooter:
It seems that startpage censors their results.


What do you base this on?


do tell, please.
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 10:41:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/27/2012 10:42:53 AM EDT by Snips]
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
Originally Posted By Snips:
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
Originally Posted By HarryStone:
Originally Posted By Snips:
Search engines exist for the purpose of recording your searches and selling your information to advertisers. None of them are going to be protective of your privacy.


But I have a right to use someone else's property for free so I can search the internet. I am the 99%.



you again... lemme guess i am a conspiracy theorist for believing that the NSA actually runs Google?


Yes, if you actually believe that then you are a conspiracy theorist.


wow...really?

more conspiracy shit

combine that with the patriot act..and tell me who really has power?


Nothing in that suggests the NSA runs Google. What I see is a US company coming under attack from a foreign government and that company seeking assistance from the US government.

Edit: And you do understand the difference between allegations in an FOIA request and actual evidence, right?
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 10:42:11 AM EDT
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
Originally Posted By Snips:
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
Originally Posted By HarryStone:
Originally Posted By Snips:
Search engines exist for the purpose of recording your searches and selling your information to advertisers. None of them are going to be protective of your privacy.


But I have a right to use someone else's property for free so I can search the internet. I am the 99%.



you again... lemme guess i am a conspiracy theorist for believing that the NSA actually runs Google?


Yes, if you actually believe that then you are a conspiracy theorist.


wow...really?

more conspiracy shit

combine that with the patriot act..and tell me who really has power?




So cooperating with a government agency on a hacking attempt by a foreign power (which was done to further spying by the foreign power on pro-freedom dissidents) means there is a broad conspiracy?
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 10:44:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/27/2012 10:52:09 AM EDT by RED_5]
seems that those fuckers at google chrome wont let you set Startpage.com as your default search engine

sorry, I stand corrected.. tired doing it manually and the dang thing is a bit screwy.

https://www.startpage.com/eng/download-startpage-plugin.html

Link Posted: 2/27/2012 10:47:20 AM EDT
Originally Posted By RED_5:
seems that those fuckers at google chrome wont let you set Startpage.com as your default search engine


Use Firefox.
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 10:47:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/27/2012 10:49:58 AM EDT by Snips]
Originally Posted By RED_5:
seems that those fuckers at google chrome wont let you set Startpage.com as your default search engine


Did you give it a properly formatted search url?

Edit: Quickly using startpage, I can't find the default search string they use.

Edit 2: Oh, go here and click Install.
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 10:54:16 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Snips:
Originally Posted By RED_5:
seems that those fuckers at google chrome wont let you set Startpage.com as your default search engine


Did you give it a properly formatted search url?

Edit: Quickly using startpage, I can't find the default search string they use.

Edit 2: Oh, go here and click Install.


found this out on my own.. yes, I'm a bit thick..
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 11:06:44 AM EDT
Originally Posted By RED_5:
seems that those fuckers at google chrome wont let you set Startpage.com as your default search engine

sorry, I stand corrected.. tired doing it manually and the dang thing is a bit screwy.

https://www.startpage.com/eng/download-startpage-plugin.html



Opera let me set SP as my search engine
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 11:21:10 AM EDT
duckduckgo.com
+
ghostery

Link Posted: 2/27/2012 11:36:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/27/2012 11:39:15 AM EDT by CrunchyUncle]
Originally Posted By dbrowne1:
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
Originally Posted By Snips:
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
Originally Posted By HarryStone:
Originally Posted By Snips:
Search engines exist for the purpose of recording your searches and selling your information to advertisers. None of them are going to be protective of your privacy.


But I have a right to use someone else's property for free so I can search the internet. I am the 99%.



you again... lemme guess i am a conspiracy theorist for believing that the NSA actually runs Google?


Yes, if you actually believe that then you are a conspiracy theorist.


wow...really?

more conspiracy shit

combine that with the patriot act..and tell me who really has power?




So cooperating with a government agency on a hacking attempt by a foreign power (which was done to further spying by the foreign power on pro-freedom dissidents) means there is a broad conspiracy?


if that is not a conspiracy..i dont know what is.
the fact that a govt group is breaking the law...in order to uphold the law..give me a break..

but the NSA does more or less run Google, you dont have to agree, the only thing that matters is that it is happening, and we(those who use google products) will all suffer the consequences.
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 11:38:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/27/2012 11:38:30 AM EDT by Snips]
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
Originally Posted By dbrowne1:
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
Originally Posted By Snips:
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
Originally Posted By HarryStone:
Originally Posted By Snips:
Search engines exist for the purpose of recording your searches and selling your information to advertisers. None of them are going to be protective of your privacy.


But I have a right to use someone else's property for free so I can search the internet. I am the 99%.



you again... lemme guess i am a conspiracy theorist for believing that the NSA actually runs Google?


Yes, if you actually believe that then you are a conspiracy theorist.


wow...really?

more conspiracy shit

combine that with the patriot act..and tell me who really has power?




So cooperating with a government agency on a hacking attempt by a foreign power (which was done to further spying by the foreign power on pro-freedom dissidents) means there is a broad conspiracy?


if that is not a conspiracy..i dont know what is.
the fact that a govt group is breaking the law...in order to uphold the law..give me a break..


What law does this FOIA request purport that the NSA broke, because I'm not seeing one.

Edit: Backpedaling away from your claim that the NSA controls Google now?
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 11:44:15 AM EDT
Originally Posted By RED_5:
seems that those fuckers at google chrome wont let you set Startpage.com as your default search engine

sorry, I stand corrected.. tired doing it manually and the dang thing is a bit screwy.

https://www.startpage.com/eng/download-startpage-plugin.html



If you don't trust Google, why would you use Chrome?
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 11:45:54 AM EDT
Originally Posted By HarryStone:
Originally Posted By RED_5:
seems that those fuckers at google chrome wont let you set Startpage.com as your default search engine

sorry, I stand corrected.. tired doing it manually and the dang thing is a bit screwy.

https://www.startpage.com/eng/download-startpage-plugin.html



If you don't trust Google, why would you use Chrome?


IE sucks and FF became a slow resource hog.
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 11:47:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/27/2012 11:48:38 AM EDT by Snips]
Originally Posted By RED_5:
Originally Posted By HarryStone:
Originally Posted By RED_5:
seems that those fuckers at google chrome wont let you set Startpage.com as your default search engine

sorry, I stand corrected.. tired doing it manually and the dang thing is a bit screwy.

https://www.startpage.com/eng/download-startpage-plugin.html



If you don't trust Google, why would you use Chrome?


IE sucks and FF became a slow resource hog.


I've had good luck with FF10. Recently upgraded because Mibbit randomly disconnects me when I'm on Chrome.

Of course, there's some memory leak when running Mibbit and one of my addons (1+ GB), so I had to create a new profile with no addons to get Mibbit running properly in FF10.
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 11:47:59 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Snips:
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
Originally Posted By dbrowne1:
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
Originally Posted By Snips:
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
Originally Posted By HarryStone:
Originally Posted By Snips:
Search engines exist for the purpose of recording your searches and selling your information to advertisers. None of them are going to be protective of your privacy.


But I have a right to use someone else's property for free so I can search the internet. I am the 99%.



you again... lemme guess i am a conspiracy theorist for believing that the NSA actually runs Google?


Yes, if you actually believe that then you are a conspiracy theorist.


wow...really?

more conspiracy shit

combine that with the patriot act..and tell me who really has power?




So cooperating with a government agency on a hacking attempt by a foreign power (which was done to further spying by the foreign power on pro-freedom dissidents) means there is a broad conspiracy?


if that is not a conspiracy..i dont know what is.
the fact that a govt group is breaking the law...in order to uphold the law..give me a break..


What law does this FOIA request purport that the NSA broke, because I'm not seeing one.

Edit: Backpedaling away from your claim that the NSA controls Google now?


ok i'll put it simply, you can read if you want,
http://www.pcworld.com/article/188581/the_googlensa_alliance_questions_and_answers.html

google to enlist NSA to ward off cyber attacks

in case you forgot who the NSA was

sooo...lets see...largest internet search engine EVER...and NSA...no there is no reason what so ever the should ever be combined...

Link Posted: 2/27/2012 11:49:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/27/2012 11:51:13 AM EDT by Snips]
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
Originally Posted By Snips:
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
Originally Posted By dbrowne1:
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
Originally Posted By Snips:
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
Originally Posted By HarryStone:
Originally Posted By Snips:
Search engines exist for the purpose of recording your searches and selling your information to advertisers. None of them are going to be protective of your privacy.


But I have a right to use someone else's property for free so I can search the internet. I am the 99%.



you again... lemme guess i am a conspiracy theorist for believing that the NSA actually runs Google?


Yes, if you actually believe that then you are a conspiracy theorist.


wow...really?

more conspiracy shit

combine that with the patriot act..and tell me who really has power?




So cooperating with a government agency on a hacking attempt by a foreign power (which was done to further spying by the foreign power on pro-freedom dissidents) means there is a broad conspiracy?


if that is not a conspiracy..i dont know what is.
the fact that a govt group is breaking the law...in order to uphold the law..give me a break..


What law does this FOIA request purport that the NSA broke, because I'm not seeing one.

Edit: Backpedaling away from your claim that the NSA controls Google now?


ok i'll put it simply, you can read if you want,
http://www.pcworld.com/article/188581/the_googlensa_alliance_questions_and_answers.html

google to enlist NSA to ward off cyber attacks

in case you forgot who the NSA was

sooo...lets see...largest internet search engine EVER...and NSA...no there is no reason what so ever the should ever be combined...



Yes, the largest search engine in the world is seeking help from its parent nation on defending itself from attack by another nation. Such a conspiracy! And easily proof that the NSA is controlling Google now.

Both sources who provided the Google-NSA information say this arrangement isn't about sharing user data, but rather analyzing Google's networks and the apparent weaknesses that were exploited. Google would more likely be sharing details about the attacks and the malicious code that was detected, the sources say.
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 11:51:05 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 12:00:14 PM EDT
Just don't sign in and set your browser to clear cookies on shutdown.

Or use Bing, Yahoo!, or some other search engine for which you don't have a sign-in.



__________________________________________________________________
Cross-platform gun database/electronic bound book (v1.3.2) (and the original thread).
«nolite confidere in principibus, in filiis hominum quibus non est salus»
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 12:02:42 PM EDT
Originally Posted By tc2k11:
Just don't sign in and set your browser to clear cookies on shutdown.

Or use Bing, Yahoo!, or some other search engine for which you don't have a sign-in.



IP tracking and browser uniqueness still make it pretty easy for them to track exactly what you searched for.
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 12:02:43 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 12:04:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Snips:
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
Originally Posted By Snips:
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
Originally Posted By dbrowne1:
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
Originally Posted By Snips:
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
Originally Posted By HarryStone:
Originally Posted By Snips:
Search engines exist for the purpose of recording your searches and selling your information to advertisers. None of them are going to be protective of your privacy.


But I have a right to use someone else's property for free so I can search the internet. I am the 99%.



you again... lemme guess i am a conspiracy theorist for believing that the NSA actually runs Google?


Yes, if you actually believe that then you are a conspiracy theorist.


wow...really?

more conspiracy shit

combine that with the patriot act..and tell me who really has power?




So cooperating with a government agency on a hacking attempt by a foreign power (which was done to further spying by the foreign power on pro-freedom dissidents) means there is a broad conspiracy?


if that is not a conspiracy..i dont know what is.
the fact that a govt group is breaking the law...in order to uphold the law..give me a break..


What law does this FOIA request purport that the NSA broke, because I'm not seeing one.

Edit: Backpedaling away from your claim that the NSA controls Google now?


ok i'll put it simply, you can read if you want,
http://www.pcworld.com/article/188581/the_googlensa_alliance_questions_and_answers.html

google to enlist NSA to ward off cyber attacks

in case you forgot who the NSA was

sooo...lets see...largest internet search engine EVER...and NSA...no there is no reason what so ever the should ever be combined...



Yes, the largest search engine in the world is seeking help from its parent nation on defending itself from attack by another nation. Such a conspiracy! And easily proof that the NSA is controlling Google now.

Both sources who provided the Google-NSA information say this arrangement isn't about sharing user data, but rather analyzing Google's networks and the apparent weaknesses that were exploited. Google would more likely be sharing details about the attacks and the malicious code that was detected, the sources say.


its amazing..most people..in society, and on ARFCOM, are not open to reality...especially when it comes to things that may go against their lifestyle, and make things much more difficult in life..or slightly against their beliefs...hell even in this case..categorically against all that is AMERICAN.. they tend to fold over and pretend that nothing is wrong.

march 1st...is the slow and certain march towards your slavery, does not matter whether or not YOU believe it. It is happening, you, and your like minded are allowing it.
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 12:10:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/27/2012 12:11:23 PM EDT by Snips]
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
Originally Posted By Snips:
Yes, the largest search engine in the world is seeking help from its parent nation on defending itself from attack by another nation. Such a conspiracy! And easily proof that the NSA is controlling Google now.

Both sources who provided the Google-NSA information say this arrangement isn't about sharing user data, but rather analyzing Google's networks and the apparent weaknesses that were exploited. Google would more likely be sharing details about the attacks and the malicious code that was detected, the sources say.


its amazing..most people..in society, and on ARFCOM, are not open to reality...especially when it comes to things that may go against their lifestyle, and make things much more difficult in life..or slightly against their beliefs...hell even in this case..categorically against all that is AMERICAN.. they tend to fold over and pretend that nothing is wrong.

march 1st...is the slow and certain march towards your slavery, does not matter whether or not YOU believe it. It is happening, you, and your like minded are allowing it.


Slow down sparky. You're jumping all over the place. What happens 3/1/2012?
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 12:11:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Snips:
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
Originally Posted By Snips:
Yes, the largest search engine in the world is seeking help from its parent nation on defending itself from attack by another nation. Such a conspiracy! And easily proof that the NSA is controlling Google now.

Both sources who provided the Google-NSA information say this arrangement isn't about sharing user data, but rather analyzing Google's networks and the apparent weaknesses that were exploited. Google would more likely be sharing details about the attacks and the malicious code that was detected, the sources say.


its amazing..most people..in society, and on ARFCOM, are not open to reality...especially when it comes to things that may go against their lifestyle, and make things much more difficult in life..or slightly against their beliefs...hell even in this case..categorically against all that is AMERICAN.. they tend to fold over and pretend that nothing is wrong.

march 1st...is the slow and certain march towards your slavery, does not matter whether or not YOU believe it. It is happening, you, and your like minded are allowing it.


Slow down sparky. You're jumping all over the place. What happens 3/1/2012?

Google will become self aware...
Link Posted: 2/27/2012 12:13:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/27/2012 12:17:49 PM EDT by CrunchyUncle]
Originally Posted By Snips:
Originally Posted By CrunchyUncle:
Originally Posted By Snips:
Yes, the largest search engine in the world is seeking help from its parent nation on defending itself from attack by another nation. Such a conspiracy! And easily proof that the NSA is controlling Google now.

Both sources who provided the Google-NSA information say this arrangement isn't about sharing user data, but rather analyzing Google's networks and the apparent weaknesses that were exploited. Google would more likely be sharing details about the attacks and the malicious code that was detected, the sources say.


its amazing..most people..in society, and on ARFCOM, are not open to reality...especially when it comes to things that may go against their lifestyle, and make things much more difficult in life..or slightly against their beliefs...hell even in this case..categorically against all that is AMERICAN.. they tend to fold over and pretend that nothing is wrong.

march 1st...is the slow and certain march towards your slavery, does not matter whether or not YOU believe it. It is happening, you, and your like minded are allowing it.


Slow down sparky. You're jumping all over the place. What happens 3/1/2012?


i'm sure you use google..try searching the date..look at facebook and youtube as well..
take into consideration the NSA, and patriot act...and just for the sake of thinking..... apply 1984 tactics

hmm..or in the situation of martial law...REX84 even
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