PTR 91 GI vs DSA STG 58

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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - PTR 91 GI vs DSA STG 58 (Page 1 of 2)

Posted: 1/30/2012 1:57:30 PM EDT

Looks like I can get either for about $900-1000. Which one, and why? I don't want an M1A or a 308 AR variant.

Posted: 1/30/2012 2:00:25 PM EDT

[#1]

What are you, stupid?

FAL.

Posted: 1/30/2012 2:02:01 PM EDT

[#2]

Spend a few hundred more, and get an AR10. I'm a FAL fan, but acknowledge that the AR10 is better...

Posted: 1/30/2012 2:16:54 PM EDT

[#3]

HK FTW

Posted: 1/30/2012 2:18:05 PM EDT

[#4]

Neither. As mentioned earlier get the AR10

Posted: 1/30/2012 2:18:46 PM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
HK FTW

Posted: 1/30/2012 2:19:43 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
What are you, stupid?

FAL.

Plus 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Posted: 1/30/2012 2:20:13 PM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
HK FTW

Posted: 1/30/2012 2:20:33 PM EDT

[#8]

Of the two , a FAL .

The AR for precision work , but the FAL for a battle rifle

Posted: 1/30/2012 2:20:45 PM EDT

[#9]

Wasn't the G3 invented because the Germans couldn't get the FAL?

I vote FAL.

Posted: 1/30/2012 2:29:58 PM EDT

[#10]

FAL

Why?

Posted: 1/30/2012 2:34:27 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
FAL

Why?

<a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/692/12470029.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/8286/12470029.jpg</a>

THAT SHIRT. WHERE IS IT SOLD??

Posted: 1/30/2012 2:36:20 PM EDT

[#12]

I have had/have both style of weapon. FAL is tits.

Posted: 1/30/2012 2:38:00 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
Wasn't the G3 invented because the Germans couldn't get the FAL?

I vote FAL.

And I thank god everyday that the stingy Belgian bastards didn't sell them the FAL.

Posted: 1/30/2012 2:38:57 PM EDT

[#14]

I am disappointed by the lack of gun porn in this thread.

Posted: 1/30/2012 2:46:25 PM EDT

[#15]

I've already got an STG-58, an M1A, and an AR-10. My next .308 will be another FAL, but mostly because I want a Para Congo model..

One of these days I'll get an NFA HK trigger pack, and then I'll look at G3 variants. Always wanted an HK51....

In any case I wouldn't really want a PTR-91, so there's my answer.

Posted: 1/30/2012 2:55:35 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
Wasn't the G3 invented because the Germans couldn't get the FAL?

I vote FAL.

The belgians wouldn't sell the germans rights to build FALs in country; they were still butthurt over the whole nazi occupation thing. Germans said to hell with that we build our own stuff. So they bought rights to the CETME and HK built it.

FAL porn:

Posted: 1/30/2012 2:56:52 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
FAL

Why?

<a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/692/12470029.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/8286/12470029.jpg</a>

THAT SHIRT. WHERE IS IT SOLD??

http://fnforum.net/forums/fn-scar-17s/25268-must-find-shirt.html

It isn't. It was a SHOT show 2012 promotional item IIRC.

Posted: 1/30/2012 2:58:31 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
What are you, stupid?

FAL.

Ta Da!

Bill

Posted: 1/30/2012 3:02:03 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:
What are you, stupid?

FAL.

This

Posted: 1/30/2012 3:05:58 PM EDT

[#20]

I'm a big fan of HK roller locked weapons, I don't really like my PTR 91 all that much, I vote FAL.

Posted: 1/30/2012 3:13:23 PM EDT

[#21]

In my defense, I've sunk like $3000 into building this, to include custom wood, handguards, receiver, lower has been restamped, and a myriad of one off repros:

But for the life of me, its really really hard trying to justify the money to have it built, which I imagine will be another $500 to $1000 for park, assembly, headspacing, barrel work (cross threading metric barrel to use original flash hider...). I could say screw it now, sell the parts, buy a complete rifle, and likely have funds for ammo and mags to boot.

Posted: 1/30/2012 3:17:53 PM EDT

[#22]

FAL.

Posted: 1/31/2012 9:52:44 AM EDT

[#23]

Bump for more input.

Posted: 1/31/2012 9:56:50 AM EDT

[#24]

Fusil Automatique Leger

I've kicked around a PTR91 but I really don't like how much the fluted chamber eats brass, plus the FAL is just pure awesome

Posted: 1/31/2012 10:09:50 AM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:
In my defense, I've sunk like $3000 into building this, to include custom wood, handguards, receiver, lower has been restamped, and a myriad of one off repros:

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm15/jdubya87/Quantico08069.jpg

But for the life of me, its really really hard trying to justify the money to have it built, which I imagine will be another $500 to $1000 for park, assembly, headspacing, barrel work (cross threading metric barrel to use original flash hider...). I could say screw it now, sell the parts, buy a complete rifle, and likely have funds for ammo and mags to boot.

Well to your credit, it's F'N beautiful.

ETA: First post is gospel.

Posted: 1/31/2012 10:18:47 AM EDT

[#26]

G3 is a brass destroying machine. If you like reloading, go FAL.

FALs are a lot easier to modify and work on.

Posted: 1/31/2012 10:19:50 AM EDT

[#27]

AR10

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Posted: 1/31/2012 12:41:33 PM EDT

[#28]

Had an HK91

Had a CETME

Had a M1A

Have and will have FAL.

Posted: 1/31/2012 12:44:00 PM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:

Fusil Automatique Leger

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn150/beamy85/DSAImbelFAL001.jpg

I've kicked around a PTR91 but I really don't like how much the fluted chamber eats brass, plus the FAL is just pure awesome

It doesn't.

Posted: 1/31/2012 12:49:41 PM EDT

[#30]

Posted: 1/31/2012 12:52:37 PM EDT

[#31]

FAL

Posted: 1/31/2012 4:21:46 PM EDT

[#32]

Well, I have to go against the general direction here.. PTR for me. Easy to mount and take off scopes with the HK claw mount. German surplus night vision is everywhere and cheap. Scope change in 5 seconds works for me. It's very accurate with good ammo (reloads for me).
It doesn't eat brass either, that's a myth. At least I reload my PTR brass without issues. CDNN has them for $999. Great value for the cash imho.
Having said that I don't think you can go wrong with either one. Just fondle them both and go with the one that works for you.

Posted: 1/31/2012 4:23:54 PM EDT

[#33]

Team Blue

Posted: 1/31/2012 4:27:00 PM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:
G3 is a brass destroying machine.

This is not a problem.

Mostly because your brass lands somewhere in the next county.

Posted: 1/31/2012 4:28:18 PM EDT

[#35]

Right arm of the free world. Team Blue all the way.

Posted: 1/31/2012 4:31:18 PM EDT

[#36]

FAL. I have 2 and wouldn't part with them for anything.

Posted: 1/31/2012 4:31:37 PM EDT

[#37]

Hk

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/meancivicsi/Cool%20Guy%20Stuff/IMG_2739-1.jpg

Posted: 1/31/2012 4:34:24 PM EDT

[#38]

For some reason I could never really dig the FAL. They are easier on brass than a G3, and a bit easier to clean. Still prefer a G3.

Posted: 1/31/2012 4:50:35 PM EDT

[#39]

jdubya87, listen to me: Get the FAL!!!!

I traded mine away years ago, and I still regret the decision. I still have a case of 7.62 ammo, waiting for it's replacement.

Semper Fi

Posted: 1/31/2012 5:44:02 PM EDT

[#40]

I'm just sick of looking at the damned thing in the garage. Not like I"m going to recap my money, so I guess I'll just build it. If I hate it, I can sell it and buy the PTR. If I like it, I'll buy a carbine para FAL and the PTR when I have money to burn.

Posted: 1/31/2012 5:48:58 PM EDT

[#41]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Wasn't the G3 invented because the Germans couldn't get the FAL?

I vote FAL.

And I thank god everyday that the stingy Belgian bastards didn't sell them the FAL.

They did, the German G1. They just didn't like the price.

Posted: 1/31/2012 6:00:32 PM EDT

[#42]

Quoted:

Hk

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y284/meancivicsi/Cool%20Guy%20Stuff/IMG_2739-1.jpg

Be careful with that. You don't want to scratch it before it goes back in the safe.

Posted: 1/31/2012 6:08:44 PM EDT

[#43]

Get BOTH.

Posted: 1/31/2012 6:13:26 PM EDT

[#44]

I like them both but think an AR-10 is still better.

Posted: 1/31/2012 6:14:15 PM EDT

[#45]

Quoted:

Get BOTH.

I did this and figured out the FAL is better.

It's OK though I got the PTR for $695 and sold it for a profit.

Posted: 1/31/2012 6:23:08 PM EDT

[#46]

Did the ARFCOM and got both! PTR-91 and a DSA FAL .308 carbine. Next on the list is the M1A.

Posted: 1/31/2012 6:30:46 PM EDT

[#47]

The HK/PTR will be more reliable with all types of ammo and it works 100% right away unlike the FAL which needs to be set correctly for the type of ammo used. The HK/PTR is also more reliable. Easy choice....the HK/PTR.

Posted: 1/31/2012 6:32:23 PM EDT

[#48]

Every PTR I have shot is picky about ammo. NOT a battle rifle quality.

I have an M1A for when I feel like shooting irons, I had an AR-10 that was not very wieldly so I sold it, I want a FAL carbine bad.

Posted: 1/31/2012 6:32:53 PM EDT

[#49]

M1A?

Red, White, and Blue Kool-Aid.

Posted: 1/31/2012 6:45:18 PM EDT

[#50]

You are probably unlikely to be in the sort of conditions where the FAL really shines. But I cannot think of another rifle I enjoy shooting more. Love that ka-chunk sound of the action reciprocating; so much better than the "sproiiinnnggg". Damn thing sounds like a giant watch when it cycles a round. I love taking it apart and appreciate the amount of engineering that went it it, the terrific machining and fabrication and so on. The bolt is a thing of beauty. Have someone who knows what they are doing help you with the extractor the first time if you get a wild hair to really take it apart. The ergonimics will either work or not. For me, the FAL fits like it was made to and the HK feels clunky but others report the opposite. That being said, if I could do it all over (and I'm in CA so I can't...), I'd go with an AR10 for a little more money.

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