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Posted: 12/21/2011 10:29:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2011 10:40:52 PM EDT by mp5k90]
you messed up. in october of 2011, Will and Stephanie Hayden were forced to surrender their FFL due to missing firearms. we formed the company Red Jacket Firearms LLC in may of 2010 and received our new FFL on Nov first 2010. The LLC and license is a matter of public record. Joe, Charlie and myself were the only controlling members of the LLC with Will and Stephanie federally prohibited fro having a firearms deal or manufacture license of any kind. I was an owner in RJF until september 15 of this year when I chose to leave because I just wanted to move on. a big eff you to the whole business besides flemming...hes cool
Ok this was just posted on facebook from Vince to Steff someones seems butt hurt.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Vince-Sons-of-Guns/203192386360307
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:31:48 PM EDT
Somehow I knew this would all end in tears.
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:32:11 PM EDT
LOL
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:32:40 PM EDT
There is more he posting right now
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:32:51 PM EDT
I was just gonna order one of everything too.
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:32:52 PM EDT
That's a game changer, isn't it?
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:33:36 PM EDT
heres his next post

vince
i am rather tired of covering it up. I quit red jacket 3 months ago.... a company that I was a partial owner in and started my own company. I just got my buyout money the other day and back in november I formed my own company. If anyone wonder why i have been edgy lately its because i am tired of waiting for TV to tell the story.
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:34:28 PM EDT
boom headshot lol
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:34:54 PM EDT
Meh.
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:37:11 PM EDT
Originally Posted By supdura:
LOL


Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:37:24 PM EDT
I'd work for Vince.
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:38:07 PM EDT
Can we get a link please? This is the first news about rj I've heard that sounds interesting!
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:38:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By macgyvers_twin:
Can we get a link please? This is the first news about rj I've heard that sounds interesting!

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Vince-Sons-of-Guns/203192386360307
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:39:22 PM EDT
Surprise
surprise
surprise
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:39:32 PM EDT
huh...
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:41:08 PM EDT
I knew the level of tardness (which I admit I thought was/probably is fake) in that show would catch up with them.
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:43:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/24/2011 1:01:53 PM EDT by maleante]
nvm
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:43:41 PM EDT
Steff deleted the post on her wall about the ffl a couple of minutes ago tha i copied.
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:44:17 PM EDT
None of this is any of my business. Remind me again why I should give a fuck about it?
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:46:31 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BuckHammer:
None of this is any of my business. Remind me again why I should give a fuck about it?


Because it's interesting? Oh, it isn't interesting to you? Don't click on the thread next time maybe?

But at least you got to feel good about implying everyone else in the thread is a gossip. Good on you.
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:46:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BuckHammer:
None of this is any of my business. Remind me again why I should give a fuck about it?


puhleeeeeeese... don't tell me you come to GD for news?

DRAMA! is what it's all about!

Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:47:59 PM EDT
Reading some of his posts it wouldn't shock me if he was an ARFCOMER
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:48:10 PM EDT
He's the only guy from that show I liked, mainly because he's the only one that seemed to actually know what he was doing when it came to firearms.
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:50:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By drunkintoaster:
Reading some of his posts it wouldn't shock me if he was an ARFCOMER


Flem is.

Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:53:05 PM EDT
http://www.mesakineticresearch.com/

This is his new company, but there is zero info/content on it right now
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:55:27 PM EDT
Vince's new company's name is Mesa Kinetic Research LLC so does that mean hat a build off i in the works? Nope cause Will can't build without a ffl.
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:55:52 PM EDT
This will make my 11 year old sad.
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:56:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2011 10:56:57 PM EDT by mp5k90]
Originally Posted By MNSwede:
http://www.mesakineticresearch.com/

This is his new company, but there is zero info/content on it right now


damn your quick
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 10:58:50 PM EDT
Originally Posted By MNSwede:
http://www.mesakineticresearch.com/

This is his new company, but there is zero info/content on it right now


Site was only registered on 11/29.

Link Posted: 12/21/2011 11:00:14 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 11:00:35 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Mech2007:
Originally Posted By MNSwede:
http://www.mesakineticresearch.com/

This is his new company, but there is zero info/content on it right now


Site was only registered on 11/29.



The facebook page says "Coming early 2012".
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 11:03:34 PM EDT


Poetic really...




Link Posted: 12/21/2011 11:05:29 PM EDT
So who is doing the work there now was he the only lic gun smith there?
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 11:05:42 PM EDT
I'd be willing to bet money that this is some kind of a publicity stunt for either Red Jacket or his new company. Not sure which.
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 11:08:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Chromekilla:
I'd be willing to bet money that this is some kind of a publicity stunt for either Red Jacket or his new company. Not sure which.


That may be, but I wouldn't doubt they fucked up.
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 11:10:52 PM EDT
Interdasting
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 11:13:20 PM EDT
So the show was all bullshit?
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 11:15:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Silesius:
So the show was all bullshit?


i used to watch it off and on, up until they suppressed a MK19. After that I said fuck it
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 11:16:30 PM EDT
Why are will and stephanie federally probibited from having a ffl?

That sounds like the more interesting story here.
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 11:18:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By hkusp9:
Why are will and stephanie federally probibited from having a ffl?

That sounds like the more interesting story here.


This is what i want to know.
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 11:18:59 PM EDT
Those were hardly the people I like representing our community.


Why the hell doesn't Jim Scoutten have a show on prime-time cable? Is there no just and loving God?
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 11:20:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Grin:
Originally Posted By Chromekilla:
I'd be willing to bet money that this is some kind of a publicity stunt for either Red Jacket or his new company. Not sure which.


That may be, but I wouldn't doubt they fucked up.


Well I believe that everything is true that was mentioned. I am not entirely certain that I believe this dude would mention him leaving the company though and airing out potential spoilers. If he took a buyout I would almost guarantee that he received a NDA type deal where he can't talk about the show until it airs. Second, on his facebook it shows him having a different girl and a baby I am assuming that the drama about him and the bosses daughter was crap. So as a result of this I am thinking that this show is just a publicity stunt. This guy either made all this stuff up and is hoping to further improve the ratings of the TV show, or he indeed left the show and is airing this out to get people to support his new company. One of those is true.
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 11:20:10 PM EDT
Originally Posted By hkusp9:
Why are will and stephanie federally probibited from having a ffl?

That sounds like the more interesting story here.


Says in the OP––missing firearms. Either they were missing more than a couple or it wasn't their first strike. No doubt they paid a pretty hefty fine when they lost their FFL, obviously.
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 11:20:30 PM EDT
Red Jacket's FFL is still showing valid on eZCheck.



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Link Posted: 12/21/2011 11:22:35 PM EDT
They had guns come up missing but thats happened before the ATF knows first hand.
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 11:22:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/21/2011 11:23:21 PM EDT by renraf]
Originally Posted By JAD:
Red Jacket's FFL is still showing valid on eZCheck.

<a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/rjacket.png/" target="_blank">http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/6154/rjacket.png</a>

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I think you're misunderstanding what he said. He said that Will and Steph can't have a FFL. Apparently they aren't the owners of RJ.
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 11:22:58 PM EDT
Originally Posted By JAD:
Red Jacket's FFL is still showing valid on eZCheck.

<a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/rjacket.png/" target="_blank">http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/6154/rjacket.png</a>

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Well. . .
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 11:23:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mp5k90:
Originally Posted By hkusp9:
Why are will and stephanie federally probibited from having a ffl?

That sounds like the more interesting story here.


This is what i want to know.


I bet it's her teeth being unregistered as a man meat grinder.
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 11:23:45 PM EDT
Originally Posted By renraf:
Originally Posted By JAD:
Red Jacket's FFL is still showing valid on eZCheck.

<a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/rjacket.png/" target="_blank">http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/6154/rjacket.png</a>

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I think you're misunderstanding what he said. He said that Will and Steph can't have a FFL. Apparently they aren't the owners of RJ.


NEED MOAR INFOOOOOOOO
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 11:24:15 PM EDT
Thats the llc that the three got after Will and Steff lost their ffl.
Link Posted: 12/21/2011 11:26:01 PM EDT
Originally Posted By mp5k90:
They had guns come up missing but thats happened before the ATF knows first hand.

Zing
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