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mp5k90 Member Joined: Jan 2008  KY, USA Posts: 354 Feedback: 0% (0)

Posted: 12/22/2011 2:29:59 AM [Last Edit: 12/22/2011 2:40:52 AM by mp5k90] THE IMAGE ABOVE IS A PAID ADVERTISEMENT you messed up. in october of 2011, Will and Stephanie Hayden were forced to surrender their FFL due to missing firearms. we formed the company Red Jacket Firearms LLC in may of 2010 and received our new FFL on Nov first 2010. The LLC and license is a matter of public record. Joe, Charlie and myself were the only controlling members of the LLC with Will and Stephanie federally prohibited fro having a firearms deal or manufacture license of any kind. I was an owner in RJF until september 15 of this year when I chose to leave because I just wanted to move on. a big eff you to the whole business besides flemming...hes cool Ok this was just posted on facebook from Vince to Steff someones seems butt hurt. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Vince-Sons-of-Guns/203192386360307

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supdura товарищ Team Member Joined: Aug 2011  FL, USA Posts: 1040 Feedback: 100% (20) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:32:11 AM LOL
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mp5k90 Member Joined: Jan 2008  KY, USA Posts: 355 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:32:40 AM There is more he posting right now
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MustardTiger Two smokes, let's go... Team Member Joined: Jun 2009  OR, USA Posts: 6425 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:32:51 AM I was just gonna order one of everything too.
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ArmyCop Member Joined: Oct 2006  RI, USA Posts: 379 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:32:52 AM That's a game changer, isn't it?
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mp5k90 Member Joined: Jan 2008  KY, USA Posts: 356 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:33:36 AM heres his next post vince i am rather tired of covering it up. I quit red jacket 3 months ago.... a company that I was a partial owner in and started my own company. I just got my buyout money the other day and back in november I formed my own company. If anyone wonder why i have been edgy lately its because i am tired of waiting for TV to tell the story.
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mp5k90 Member Joined: Jan 2008  KY, USA Posts: 357 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:34:28 AM boom headshot lol
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MadProfessor Gwar rules!!! Team Member Joined: Nov 2001  AL, USA Posts: 7000 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:34:54 AM Meh.
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Capt-Planet Cyber-Luddite Team Member Joined: May 2007  TUV Posts: 4743 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:37:11 AM Originally Posted By supdura: LOL
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PhatForrest Member Joined: Nov 2001  CT, USA Posts: 6988 Feedback: 100% (6) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:37:24 AM I'd work for Vince.
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macgyvers_twin Member Joined: Feb 2010  AL, USA Posts: 580 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:38:07 AM Can we get a link please? This is the first news about rj I've heard that sounds interesting!
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PhatForrest Member Joined: Nov 2001  CT, USA Posts: 6989 Feedback: 100% (6) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:38:53 AM Originally Posted By macgyvers_twin: Can we get a link please? This is the first news about rj I've heard that sounds interesting! https://www.facebook.com/pages/Vince-Sons-of-Guns/203192386360307
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thumper10mm Member Team Member Joined: May 2006  USA Posts: 1805 Feedback: 100% (2) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:39:22 AM Surprise surprise surprise
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maleante Member Team Member Joined: Mar 2009  BRA Posts: 6524 Feedback: 100% (112) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:39:32 AM huh...
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para_frame <=Porsche 944. Nurse Turtle. Team Member Joined: Dec 2006  CA, USA Posts: 7019 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:41:08 AM I knew the level of tardness (which I admit I thought was/probably is fake) in that show would catch up with them.
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maleante Member Team Member Joined: Mar 2009  BRA Posts: 6525 Feedback: 100% (112) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:43:11 AM [Last Edit: 12/24/2011 5:01:53 PM by maleante] nvm
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mp5k90 Member Joined: Jan 2008  KY, USA Posts: 358 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:43:41 AM Steff deleted the post on her wall about the ffl a couple of minutes ago tha i copied.
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BuckHammer Who you gonna call? Team Member Joined: Dec 2008  IN, USA Posts: 5998 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:44:17 AM None of this is any of my business. Remind me again why I should give a fuck about it?
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103 Stealth Mode Team Member Joined: Sep 2006  FL, USA Posts: 14639 Feedback: 100% (6) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:46:31 AM Originally Posted By BuckHammer: None of this is any of my business. Remind me again why I should give a fuck about it? Because it's interesting? Oh, it isn't interesting to you? Don't click on the thread next time maybe? But at least you got to feel good about implying everyone else in the thread is a gossip. Good on you.
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maleante Member Team Member Joined: Mar 2009  BRA Posts: 6526 Feedback: 100% (112) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:46:46 AM Originally Posted By BuckHammer: None of this is any of my business. Remind me again why I should give a fuck about it? puhleeeeeeese... don't tell me you come to GD for news? DRAMA! is what it's all about!
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drunkintoaster I wear funny plastic suits Team Member Joined: Apr 2006  AK, USA Posts: 3923 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:47:59 AM Reading some of his posts it wouldn't shock me if he was an ARFCOMER
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Seansworth musha rain dum a doo dum a da Team Member Joined: Jul 2009  OK, USA Posts: 15553 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:48:10 AM He's the only guy from that show I liked, mainly because he's the only one that seemed to actually know what he was doing when it came to firearms.
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Mech2007 Member Team Member Joined: Nov 2007  NY, USA Posts: 22117 Feedback: 100% (3) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:50:33 AM Originally Posted By drunkintoaster: Reading some of his posts it wouldn't shock me if he was an ARFCOMER Flem is.
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MNSwede Member Joined: Oct 2011  MN, USA Posts: 105 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:53:05 AM http://www.mesakineticresearch.com/ This is his new company, but there is zero info/content on it right now
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mp5k90 Member Joined: Jan 2008  KY, USA Posts: 359 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:55:27 AM Vince's new company's name is Mesa Kinetic Research LLC so does that mean hat a build off i in the works? Nope cause Will can't build without a ffl.
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onthedgeofmyseat I Parallel Park by Feel Team Member Joined: May 2006  WA, USA Posts: 5372 Feedback: 100% (2) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:55:52 AM This will make my 11 year old sad.
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mp5k90 Member Joined: Jan 2008  KY, USA Posts: 360 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:56:23 AM [Last Edit: 12/22/2011 2:56:57 AM by mp5k90] Originally Posted By MNSwede: http://www.mesakineticresearch.com/ This is his new company, but there is zero info/content on it right now damn your quick
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Mech2007 Member Team Member Joined: Nov 2007  NY, USA Posts: 22118 Feedback: 100% (3) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 2:58:50 AM Originally Posted By MNSwede: http://www.mesakineticresearch.com/ This is his new company, but there is zero info/content on it right now Site was only registered on 11/29.
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Seansworth musha rain dum a doo dum a da Team Member Joined: Jul 2009  OK, USA Posts: 15557 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 3:00:35 AM Originally Posted By Mech2007: Originally Posted By MNSwede: http://www.mesakineticresearch.com/ This is his new company, but there is zero info/content on it right now Site was only registered on 11/29. The facebook page says "Coming early 2012".
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mp5k90 Member Joined: Jan 2008  KY, USA Posts: 361 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 3:05:29 AM So who is doing the work there now was he the only lic gun smith there?
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Chromekilla Is that you John Wayne, Is this me? Team Member Joined: Feb 2006  OR, USA Posts: 11424 Feedback: 100% (7) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 3:05:42 AM I'd be willing to bet money that this is some kind of a publicity stunt for either Red Jacket or his new company. Not sure which.
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Grin Wolf Crunch Team Member Joined: Feb 2011  MO, USA Posts: 3033 Feedback: 100% (4) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 3:08:15 AM Originally Posted By Chromekilla: I'd be willing to bet money that this is some kind of a publicity stunt for either Red Jacket or his new company. Not sure which. That may be, but I wouldn't doubt they fucked up.
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FAIL-SAFE Member Joined: Sep 2004  TX, USA Posts: 8600 Feedback: 100% (45) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 3:10:52 AM Interdasting
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Silesius Member Joined: Dec 2004  USA Posts: 14322 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 3:13:20 AM So the show was all bullshit?
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Tyler315 "Stop Resisting!" Team Member Joined: Feb 2011  KY, USA Posts: 714 Feedback: 100% (1) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 3:15:26 AM Originally Posted By Silesius: So the show was all bullshit? i used to watch it off and on, up until they suppressed a MK19. After that I said fuck it
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hkusp9 Member Team Member Joined: Feb 2006  TX, USA Posts: 6315 Feedback: 100% (9) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 3:16:30 AM Why are will and stephanie federally probibited from having a ffl? That sounds like the more interesting story here.
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mp5k90 Member Joined: Jan 2008  KY, USA Posts: 362 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 3:18:22 AM Originally Posted By hkusp9: Why are will and stephanie federally probibited from having a ffl? That sounds like the more interesting story here. This is what i want to know.
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BUCC_Guy One shot, one miss. Team Member Joined: Oct 2003  CT, USA Posts: 16660 Feedback: 100% (10) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 3:18:59 AM Those were hardly the people I like representing our community. Why the hell doesn't Jim Scoutten have a show on prime-time cable? Is there no just and loving God?
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Posted: 12/22/2011 3:20:04 AM Originally Posted By Grin: Originally Posted By Chromekilla: I'd be willing to bet money that this is some kind of a publicity stunt for either Red Jacket or his new company. Not sure which. That may be, but I wouldn't doubt they fucked up. Well I believe that everything is true that was mentioned. I am not entirely certain that I believe this dude would mention him leaving the company though and airing out potential spoilers. If he took a buyout I would almost guarantee that he received a NDA type deal where he can't talk about the show until it airs. Second, on his facebook it shows him having a different girl and a baby I am assuming that the drama about him and the bosses daughter was crap. So as a result of this I am thinking that this show is just a publicity stunt. This guy either made all this stuff up and is hoping to further improve the ratings of the TV show, or he indeed left the show and is airing this out to get people to support his new company. One of those is true.

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103 Stealth Mode Team Member Joined: Sep 2006  FL, USA Posts: 14643 Feedback: 100% (6) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 3:20:10 AM Originally Posted By hkusp9: Why are will and stephanie federally probibited from having a ffl? That sounds like the more interesting story here. Says in the OP––missing firearms. Either they were missing more than a couple or it wasn't their first strike. No doubt they paid a pretty hefty fine when they lost their FFL, obviously.
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JAD Member Team Member Joined: Nov 2006  CT, USA Posts: 5819 Feedback: 100% (17) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 3:20:30 AM Red Jacket's FFL is still showing valid on eZCheck. Uploaded with ImageShack.us
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mp5k90 Member Joined: Jan 2008  KY, USA Posts: 363 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 3:22:35 AM They had guns come up missing but thats happened before the ATF knows first hand.
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Posted: 12/22/2011 3:22:52 AM [Last Edit: 12/22/2011 3:23:21 AM by renraf] Originally Posted By JAD: Red Jacket's FFL is still showing valid on eZCheck. <a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/rjacket.png/" target="_blank">http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/6154/rjacket.png</a> Uploaded with ImageShack.us I think you're misunderstanding what he said. He said that Will and Steph can't have a FFL. Apparently they aren't the owners of RJ.

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Seansworth musha rain dum a doo dum a da Team Member Joined: Jul 2009  OK, USA Posts: 15562 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 3:22:58 AM Originally Posted By JAD: Red Jacket's FFL is still showing valid on eZCheck. <a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/rjacket.png/" target="_blank">http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/6154/rjacket.png</a> Uploaded with ImageShack.us Well. . .
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TUBBY Member Team Member Joined: Feb 2001  OH, USA Posts: 3810 Feedback: 100% (6) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 3:23:37 AM Originally Posted By mp5k90: Originally Posted By hkusp9: Why are will and stephanie federally probibited from having a ffl? That sounds like the more interesting story here. This is what i want to know. I bet it's her teeth being unregistered as a man meat grinder.
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Posted: 12/22/2011 3:23:45 AM Originally Posted By renraf: Originally Posted By JAD: Red Jacket's FFL is still showing valid on eZCheck. <a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/rjacket.png/" target="_blank">http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/6154/rjacket.png</a> Uploaded with ImageShack.us I think you're misunderstanding what he said. He said that Will and Steph can't have a FFL. Apparently they aren't the owners of RJ. NEED MOAR INFOOOOOOOO

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mp5k90 Member Joined: Jan 2008  KY, USA Posts: 364 Feedback: 0% (0) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 3:24:15 AM Thats the llc that the three got after Will and Steff lost their ffl.
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onthedgeofmyseat I Parallel Park by Feel Team Member Joined: May 2006  WA, USA Posts: 5373 Feedback: 100% (2) Link To This Post	Posted: 12/22/2011 3:26:01 AM Originally Posted By mp5k90: They had guns come up missing but thats happened before the ATF knows first hand. Zing
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