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Posted: 12/15/2011 6:01:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/15/2011 6:02:23 PM EDT
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I bought this scope mount to use on this cheap old bushmaster postban hbar.
My friend and I are gonna do a cheap and old versus expensive and new test. |
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Posted: 12/15/2011 6:03:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/15/2011 6:08:04 PM EDT
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Ok.........
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Posted: 12/15/2011 6:11:18 PM EDT
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I bought this scope mount to use on this cheap old bushmaster postban hbar. My friend and I are gonna do a cheap and old versus expensive and new test. What sort of tests are you going to do? Try this one.: 1. Zero the scopes on their respective rifles. 2. Shoot 10 shot groups with both rifles. 3. Swap scopes and sight them in on the new rifles and write down the W&E adjustments. 4. Shoot 10 shot groups with both rifles. 5. Swap scopes back to original rifles. Turn turrets back to zero from step 1. 6. Shoot 10 shot groups with both rifles. 7. Swap scopes again. Turn turrets to W&E from step 3. 8. Shoot 10 shot groups with both rifles. |
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Posted: 12/15/2011 6:14:45 PM EDT
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Well ok then
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Posted: 12/15/2011 6:15:25 PM EDT
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I bought this scope mount to use on this cheap old bushmaster postban hbar. My friend and I are gonna do a cheap and old versus expensive and new test. What sort of tests are you going to do? Try this one.: 1. Zero the scopes on their respective rifles. 2. Shoot 10 shot groups with both rifles. 3. Swap scopes and sight them in on the new rifles and write down the W&E adjustments. 4. Shoot 10 shot groups with both rifles. 5. Swap scopes back to original rifles. Turn turrets back to zero from step 1. 6. Shoot 10 shot groups with both rifles. 7. Swap scopes again. Turn turrets to W&E from step 3. 8. Shoot 10 shot groups with both rifles. Yeah we will do something like that. It will be hard to get meaningful results , but will be fun |
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Posted: 12/15/2011 6:16:53 PM EDT
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in before the dildos
 
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Posted: 12/15/2011 6:17:28 PM EDT
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No Dillo?
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Posted: 12/15/2011 6:20:34 PM EDT
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LOOK AT ME EVERYONE!
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Posted: 12/15/2011 6:22:44 PM EDT
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That looks like a RRA, not a Bushmaster.
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Posted: 12/15/2011 6:23:41 PM EDT
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Bushy upper. Rra lower.
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Posted: 12/15/2011 6:23:47 PM EDT
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Dillo's are a gift. Appreciate them when you get them. Don't complain when you don't.
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Posted: 12/15/2011 6:25:01 PM EDT
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The scope is also a bottle opener. Sheesh.
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Posted: 12/15/2011 6:26:41 PM EDT
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Dillo's are a gift. Appreciate them when you get them. Don't complain when you don't. Yeah, well..... Since that is not a LaRue mount.... I wasn't expecting a "dillo" bottle opener. |
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Posted: 12/15/2011 6:35:41 PM EDT
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Quoted: Then I stand corrected.Quoted: Dillo's are a gift. Appreciate them when you get them. Don't complain when you don't. Yeah, well..... Since that is not a LaRue mount.... I wasn't expecting a "dillo" bottle opener. |
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Posted: 12/15/2011 6:37:19 PM EDT
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Patch, this thread is retarded.
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Posted: 12/15/2011 6:39:36 PM EDT
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three posts for 2 sentences and 2 pictures. Have you been drinking, hippy?
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Posted: 12/15/2011 6:40:13 PM EDT
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Patch, this thread is retarded. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Here, Here!!! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 12/15/2011 6:41:33 PM EDT
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Patch, this thread is retarded. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Thanks. I guess all the "hey I DID get a free bottle opener with my 300$ scope mount" threads are cooler. 
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Posted: 12/15/2011 6:44:23 PM EDT
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Patch, this thread is retarded. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Thanks. I guess all the "hey I DID get a free bottle opener with my 300$ scope mount" threads are cooler.
No, those are also retarded and borderline homosexual. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 6:11:44 AM EDT
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Patch, this thread is retarded. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Thanks. I guess all the "hey I DID get a free bottle opener with my 300$ scope mount" threads are cooler.
No, those are also retarded and borderline homosexual. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Lol. Okay at least we agree on that. 
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Posted: 12/16/2011 6:16:23 AM EDT
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Patch, this thread is retarded. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Thanks. I guess all the "hey I DID get a free bottle opener with my 300$ scope mount" threads are cooler.
No, those are also retarded and borderline homosexual. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Lol. Okay at least we agree on that.
The LaRue Kool aid drinkers are weird bunch.
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Posted: 12/16/2011 6:18:41 AM EDT
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Really... |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 6:21:16 AM EDT
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Patch, this thread is retarded. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Thanks. I guess all the "hey I DID get a free bottle opener with my 300$ scope mount" threads are cooler.
No, those are also retarded and borderline homosexual. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Lol. Okay at least we agree on that.
The LaRue Kool aid drinkers are weird bunch. Don't lie. You would chug that Kool-Aid if you could afford it. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 6:21:34 AM EDT
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You also did not get a flash-hider ............. WA a ban state?????
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Posted: 12/16/2011 6:23:17 AM EDT
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Oh yeah, really.
I know. I am pissed too. A solid mount, with 20moa cant, for 80 dollars and NO free bottle opener. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 6:25:14 AM EDT
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You also did not get a flash-hider ............. WA a ban state????? No, I bought that upper cheap-o after the ban. I have other ar's. But I am gonna use this one in a test using cheap, not cool stuff against a more expensive upper with all the latest gizmos. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 6:26:15 AM EDT
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Patch, this thread is retarded. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Thanks. I guess all the "hey I DID get a free bottle opener with my 300$ scope mount" threads are cooler.
No, those are also retarded and borderline homosexual. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Lol. Okay at least we agree on that.
The LaRue Kool aid drinkers are weird bunch. Don't lie. You would chug that Kool-Aid if you could afford it. If you say so.. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 6:27:36 AM EDT
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Patch, this thread is retarded. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Thanks. I guess all the "hey I DID get a free bottle opener with my 300$ scope mount" threads are cooler.
No, those are also retarded and borderline homosexual. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Lol. Okay at least we agree on that.
The LaRue Kool aid drinkers are weird bunch. Don't lie. You would chug that Kool-Aid if you could afford it. It's good Kool Aid, and a good product, but some of these guys take it a little far. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 7:17:03 AM EDT
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I bought this scope mount to use on this cheap old bushmaster postban hbar. My friend and I are gonna do a cheap and old versus expensive and new test. What sort of tests are you going to do? Try this one.: 1. Zero the scopes on their respective rifles. 2. Shoot 10 shot groups with both rifles. 3. Swap scopes and sight them in on the new rifles and write down the W&E adjustments. 4. Shoot 10 shot groups with both rifles. 5. Swap scopes back to original rifles. Turn turrets back to zero from step 1. 6. Shoot 10 shot groups with both rifles. 7. Swap scopes again. Turn turrets to W&E from step 3. 8. Shoot 10 shot groups with both rifles. Yeah we will do something like that. It will be hard to get meaningful results , but will be fun You'll get meaningful results. One of your mounts will hold zero, I'm not so sure about the other one. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 7:20:09 AM EDT
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I bought this scope mount to use on this cheap old bushmaster postban hbar. My friend and I are gonna do a cheap and old versus expensive and new test. IN. 
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Posted: 12/16/2011 7:23:12 AM EDT
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I bought this scope mount to use on this cheap old bushmaster postban hbar. My friend and I are gonna do a cheap and old versus expensive and new test. What sort of tests are you going to do? Try this one.: 1. Zero the scopes on their respective rifles. 2. Shoot 10 shot groups with both rifles. 3. Swap scopes and sight them in on the new rifles and write down the W&E adjustments. 4. Shoot 10 shot groups with both rifles. 5. Swap scopes back to original rifles. Turn turrets back to zero from step 1. 6. Shoot 10 shot groups with both rifles. 7. Swap scopes again. Turn turrets to W&E from step 3. 8. Shoot 10 shot groups with both rifles. Yeah we will do something like that. It will be hard to get meaningful results , but will be fun You'll get meaningful results. One of your mounts will hold zero, I'm not so sure about the other one. That is one aspect of the test. But honestly, how many of you have even removed your scopes since you first attached them and initially tested their repeatability? |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 7:25:01 AM EDT
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But honestly, how many of you have even removed your scopes since you first attached them and initially tested their repeatability? I've never done a dedicated test, but I have removed an ACOG from a rifle, replaced it, and it shot satisfactorily. Not scientific, but it rang the gong. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 7:46:52 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: But honestly, how many of you have even removed your scopes since you first attached them and initially tested their repeatability? I've never done a dedicated test, but I have removed an ACOG from a rifle, replaced it, and it shot satisfactorily. Not scientific, but it rang the gong. Similar results here with an Armalite mount and a Burris Fullfield II 3-9X scope. POI might shift a little, but not very much. Make sure you re-mount in the same position. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 8:20:24 AM EDT
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But honestly, how many of you have even removed your scopes since you first attached them and initially tested their repeatability? I've never done a dedicated test, but I have removed an ACOG from a rifle, replaced it, and it shot satisfactorily. Not scientific, but it rang the gong. Similar results here with an Armalite mount and a Burris Fullfield II 3-9X scope. POI might shift a little, but not very much. Make sure you re-mount in the same position. Exactly. Repeatability doesn't mean things don't move, it means things move the same under similar conditions. A Larue mount's success comes from 2 primary things- 1) It's solidly built from good material. This reduces flex or distortion of the mount under varying conditions. 2) The cam mechanism makes it very easy to put a consistent clamping force on the mounting surface, the picatinny rail. IMO, this is the most important thing. A good pair of scope rings will be every bit as accurate and repeatable as an LT mount If you install it in the same location and apply the same clamping force; this is why all the precision rifle shooters have special little torque wrenches. However, this is not quick, and that's where the LT shines like a diamond in goat's ass. 
Every material deflects under every load, how you manage this deflection is what matters. Edit- gall damn, I went and got all technical in GD, hope I don't get banned.
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Posted: 12/16/2011 8:21:52 AM EDT
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Patch, this thread is retarded. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Thanks. I guess all the "hey I DID get a free bottle opener with my 300$ scope mount" threads are cooler.
No, those are also retarded and borderline homosexual. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Someone forgot the paper plate... |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 8:24:56 AM EDT
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Screw the bottle opener...a camera that takes better pictures is what you need!
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Posted: 12/16/2011 8:49:49 AM EDT
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So much "fail".
QD LaRue, with verifiable return to zero on/off capability. An American made, waranty protected, respected, and generous to our armed forces members.... -Vs- Some no name import that you got off eBay. Stay Classy. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 9:42:45 AM EDT
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So much "fail". QD LaRue, with verifiable return to zero on/off capability. An American made, waranty protected, respected, and generous to our armed forces members.... -Vs- Some no name import that you got off eBay. Stay Classy. you fuckin fail Made In America, Mamma Jamma.
Now, how will I ever figure out how to get liquids from a bottle? |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 10:04:32 AM EDT
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Freeeeeeeeedom Reaper Coolest name EVER! 
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Posted: 12/16/2011 10:08:30 AM EDT
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times are tough, i assume there's a price threshold for what you get? i only got bumper stickers.
years before it was dildo dust, hat, stickers and dildo opener. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 10:10:01 AM EDT
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Patch, this thread is retarded. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Thanks. I guess all the "hey I DID get a free bottle opener with my 300$ scope mount" threads are cooler.
I got one with my $600 order for an Aimpoint T-1 + mount.  I got a hat and dillo dust too!
Is that mount a LaRue clone? I've never had much want for a magnified optic so I don't know about his scope mounts. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 10:13:15 AM EDT
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Patch, this thread is retarded. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Thanks. I guess all the "hey I DID get a free bottle opener with my 300$ scope mount" threads are cooler.
I got one with my $600 order for an Aimpoint T-1 + mount. I got a hat and dillo dust too!I look forward to your pending thread showing your bottle opener posed in hi-larious poses. Those are the best. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 10:27:28 AM EDT
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I took my aimpoints and my 1-4x accupoint off many times for different reasons and put them back on and never had to rezero. I love how people think that their $80 mount with a cool name will beat a more expensive mount by a better company.
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Posted: 12/16/2011 10:28:52 AM EDT
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I took my aimpoints and my 1-4x accupoint off many times for different reasons and put them back on and never had to rezero. I love how people think that their $80 mount with a cool name will beat a more expensive mount by a better company. Excuse me while I go reap some freedom. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 10:31:15 AM EDT
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I took my aimpoints and my 1-4x accupoint off many times for different reasons and put them back on and never had to rezero. I love how people think that their $80 mount with a cool name will beat a more expensive mount by a better company. Excuse me while I go reap some freedom. Why not reap the benefits of quality? |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 10:57:36 AM EDT
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Here is a rough outline of the test I will do. Anybody see any mistakes or have any better ideas?
I know this is anecdotal, but will be fun. Upper Test: Note all weather/time data. Start with clean/lubed gun Note upper specs. Note optics specs. Note prices. Note ammo specs. ________________________________________________________________________________ General Accuracy Test: (total rounds each rifle: 60) 55 grain fmj prvi partisan 2008: -Shoot 10 rounds -Swap rifles; shoot 10 rounds (different target to compare group size) 68 grain black hills otm: -Shoot 10 rounds -Swap rifles; shoot 10 rounds (different target to compare group size) 75 grain black hills otm: -Shoot 10 rounds -Swap rifles; shoot 10 rounds (different target to compare group size) ______________________________________________________________________________________ Box Test: Shooter Picks Ammo (total rounds each rifle: 5) -Shoot 1 round, adjust scope 10 clicks up shoot 1 round, 10 clicks right shoot 1 round, 10 clicks down shoot 1 round, 10 clicks left shoot 1 round (5 rounds total). -Swap rifles and repeat. ______________________________________________________________________________________ Scope Mount Test: Shooter Picks Ammo (total rounds each rifle: 10) -Shoot 5 rounds. -Remove scope mount from upper (scope stays in rings) -Reattach scope mount to upper -Shoot 5 rounds. _________________________________________________________________________________________ Swap Scope Mounts: Shooter Picks Ammo (total rounds each rifle: 20) -Shoot 10 rounds -Swap scopes; shoot 10 rounds (total rounds each rifle: 95) ____________________________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________________________ Supplies Needed: -ammo (40 fmj, 100 68 grn, 100 75 grn) -marker -target and stickers -calipers/ruler -camera -guns/mags -scope tools -improved rests (bean bags for front and rear) -eyes/ears -bottle openers 
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Posted: 12/16/2011 11:59:32 AM EDT
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I took my aimpoints and my 1-4x accupoint off many times for different reasons and put them back on and never had to rezero. I love how people think that their $80 mount with a cool name will beat a more expensive mount by a better company. Excuse me while I go reap some freedom. Why not reap the benefits of quality? Don't get me wrong. It's quality. If I were fighting with a rifle in battle, I would want and need that kind of quality or better. And I'd gladly pay it. For 99.995% of us....it isn't necessary except to brag in pictures. Every sport, every hobby has gear snobs. No biggee. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 12:02:54 PM EDT
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Don't get me wrong. It's quality. If I were fighting with a rifle in battle, I would want and need that kind of quality or better. And I'd gladly pay it. For 99.995% of us....it isn't necessary except to brag in pictures. Every sport, every hobby has gear snobs. No biggee. If it turns out to be shit check out Armalite's. They are less than $100. |
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Posted: 12/16/2011 12:04:52 PM EDT
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I dont see any LaRue products....Someone explain WTF the OP is talking about
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