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Posted: 12/3/2011 7:06:25 AM EDT
ASh-12 Bullpup automatic assault carbine. 
Ash-12 with sound suppressor with under barrel grenade launcher. 
12.7 x 55 mm ammunition. 12.7 is a .50 caliber bullet. ETA: Source: http://i-korotchenko.livejournal.com/337497.html |
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Posted: 12/3/2011 7:08:05 AM EDT
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When did Keltec move to Moscow?
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Posted: 12/3/2011 7:12:55 AM EDT
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When did Keltec move to Moscow? I had the same thought. |
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Posted: 12/3/2011 7:13:04 AM EDT
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Looks fun!
Bet it does not perform as well as it looks. 12.7x55mm...a short .50? |
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Posted: 12/3/2011 7:14:44 AM EDT
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Looks fun! Bet it does not perform as well as it looks. 12.7x55mm...a short .50? So it's basically a .50 Beowulf bullpup. |
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Posted: 12/3/2011 7:15:16 AM EDT
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When did Keltec move to Moscow? I had the same thought. Also looks like a molested bushmaster bullpup. |
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Posted: 12/3/2011 7:16:41 AM EDT
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Looks fun! Bet it does not perform as well as it looks. 12.7x55mm...a short .50? So it's basically a .50 Beowulf bullpup. Seems to be...totally impractical for mil applications (at large issue) but would be fun in a non-mil application of say, busting clays placed on top of Igor's head at 100 meters. Hey Vasilli, hold my Vodka...watch this 
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Posted: 12/3/2011 7:18:03 AM EDT
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This revolver looks like a S&W 500, Medusa & Chiappa gangbanged each other and this is the bastard result that should have been aborted with a coat hanger.
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Posted: 12/3/2011 7:19:25 AM EDT
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And I thought that .50 cal submachine guns were only an invention of Fallout New Vegas!
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Posted: 12/3/2011 7:23:10 AM EDT
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I wonder how much kick this round will have. A 50 beowulf is 12.7x42 and a normal 50 cal is 12.7x99. I wonder if this round is subsonic and is Russias answer to the 300blackout niche.
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Posted: 12/3/2011 7:23:11 AM EDT
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This revolver looks like a S&W 500, Medusa & Chiappa gangbanged each other and this is the bastard result that should have been aborted with a coat hanger. http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1008/k314657x400img411652601.jpg All my questions were just answered |
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Posted: 12/3/2011 7:33:21 AM EDT
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When did Russia buy Tapco ?
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Posted: 12/3/2011 7:40:40 AM EDT
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I wonder how much kick this round will have. A 50 beowulf is 12.7x42 and a normal 50 cal is 12.7x99. I wonder if this round is subsonic and is Russias answer to the 300blackout niche. Russia's 300 blackout is the 9x39mm but it is much better than the blackout. |
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Posted: 12/3/2011 7:43:18 AM EDT
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This revolver looks like a S&W 500, Medusa & Chiappa gangbanged each other and this is the bastard result that should have been aborted with a coat hanger. http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1008/k314657x400img411652601.jpg All my questions were just answered The Russians have another revolver that fires from the bottom cylinder. OTs-38 Stechkin Silent Revolver 
Specifications: Type - Double Action revolver Caliber - 7.62x42 SP-4 Weight Unloaded - 880g = 1.94 pounds (with integral laser sight) Length - 191 MM = 7.52 in. Magazine Capacity - 5 rounds in special flat clip |
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Posted: 12/3/2011 7:54:42 AM EDT
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The State Dept had some .50 Beowulfs in Iraq.
Used them for stopping vehicles. I heard they worked great when shooting down from a chopper through the hood into the engine........ |
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Posted: 12/3/2011 8:01:02 AM EDT
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I wonder how much kick this round will have. A 50 beowulf is 12.7x42 and a normal 50 cal is 12.7x99. I wonder if this round is subsonic and is Russias answer to the 300blackout niche. Russia's 300 blackout is the 9x39mm but it is much better than the blackout. 9x39 sounds a lot like the 338 Spectre.(sp?) |
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Posted: 12/3/2011 8:01:18 AM EDT
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The State Dept had some .50 Beowulfs in Iraq. Used them for stopping vehicles. I heard they worked great when shooting down from a chopper through the hood into the engine........ Based on size alone I would say this new Russian round is more powerful than the .50 Beowulf. .50 Beowulf is 12.7 x 42mm vs. Russian 12.7 x 55mm. |
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Posted: 12/3/2011 8:04:06 AM EDT
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I hope brass becomes available for this new round. It looks like it would fit nicely in a 308 AR platform.
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Posted: 12/3/2011 8:05:48 AM EDT
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I want this to be in S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2.
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Posted: 12/3/2011 8:08:22 AM EDT
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I'm still waiting for the 9x39 to make it's way into the US of A
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Posted: 12/3/2011 8:12:04 AM EDT
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I'm still waiting for the 9x39 to make it's way into the US of A I tried to make that happen for years...... |
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Posted: 12/3/2011 8:14:10 AM EDT
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I wonder how much kick this round will have. A 50 beowulf is 12.7x42 and a normal 50 cal is 12.7x99. I wonder if this round is subsonic and is Russias answer to the 300blackout niche. Russia's 300 blackout is the 9x39mm but it is much better than the blackout. 9x39 sounds a lot like the 338 Spectre.(sp?) 9x39mm has been in Russian service for a long time.... 9x39mm FMJ and AP next to a 7.62x39mm 
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Posted: 12/3/2011 8:14:15 AM EDT
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The State Dept had some .50 Beowulfs in Iraq. Used them for stopping vehicles. I heard they worked great when shooting down from a chopper through the hood into the engine........ Wouldn't a 7.62x51 AP round work better there? |
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Posted: 12/3/2011 8:14:18 AM EDT
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It is a prerequisite that Russians must design all weapons to look like junk.
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Posted: 12/3/2011 8:16:32 AM EDT
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The stock on that bullpup is longer than the AUG, way longer.
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Posted: 12/3/2011 8:16:49 AM EDT
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The State Dept had some .50 Beowulfs in Iraq. Used them for stopping vehicles. I heard they worked great when shooting down from a chopper through the hood into the engine........ Wouldn't a 7.62x51 AP round work better there? sometimes much bigger and much heavier is much better...... |
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Posted: 12/3/2011 9:11:56 AM EDT
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I am a little surprised no one has IDed the massive mystery revolver. Judging by the size of the cylinder I am wondering if it could also be in 12.7 x 55?
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Posted: 12/3/2011 9:14:26 AM EDT
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Has trigger discipline not been invented in Russia yet?
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Posted: 12/3/2011 9:16:22 AM EDT
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Oh my..
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Posted: 12/3/2011 9:20:24 AM EDT
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Dave, what was the hold up on the 9x39?
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Posted: 12/3/2011 9:22:55 AM EDT
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Dave, what was the hold up on the 9x39? I dunno.........lack of interest by the importer, unwillingness to sell that particular cartridge to decadent capitalists by the Russians.....not sure. Tula said they could make a sporting load Izhmash said they could make a sporting rifle but people didn't think they'd sell any..............fools...... |
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Posted: 12/3/2011 9:23:31 AM EDT
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I am a little surprised no one has IDed the massive mystery revolver. Judging by the size of the cylinder I am wondering if it could also be in 12.7 x 55? that's boring compared to the pump action grenade launcher on the table no-one has noticed....... |
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Posted: 12/3/2011 9:24:03 AM EDT
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I wonder why there are two selector levers.
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Posted: 12/3/2011 9:25:42 AM EDT
[#33]
dust cover looks familiar
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Posted: 12/3/2011 9:28:02 AM EDT
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The stock on that bullpup is longer than the AUG, way longer. Maybe some sort of recoil reducing mechanism in there? Russians + suits equal 0 trigger discipline. Booker hooks everywhere!
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Posted: 12/3/2011 9:30:06 AM EDT
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магистрат созвездия скотин |
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Posted: 12/3/2011 9:30:16 AM EDT
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I am a little surprised no one has IDed the massive mystery revolver. Judging by the size of the cylinder I am wondering if it could also be in 12.7 x 55? that's boring compared to the pump action grenade launcher on the table no-one has noticed....... Mmmmhhhmmmm GM-94 Graz, 3+1 of 43mm awesomeness. Damn 68 NFA import ban! 
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Posted: 12/3/2011 9:31:00 AM EDT
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I was not aware Century was exporting their AK bullpup kit
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Posted: 12/3/2011 9:31:18 AM EDT
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I am a little surprised no one has IDed the massive mystery revolver. Judging by the size of the cylinder I am wondering if it could also be in 12.7 x 55? that's boring compared to the pump action grenade launcher on the table no-one has noticed....... I agree. There is little to no English language info on this. I am hoping one of our Russian members will be able to provide more info. |
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Posted: 12/3/2011 9:32:27 AM EDT
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Dave, what was the hold up on the 9x39? I dunno.........lack of interest by the importer, unwillingness to sell that particular cartridge to decadent capitalists by the Russians.....not sure. Tula said they could make a sporting load Izhmash said they could make a sporting rifle but people didn't think they'd sell any..............fools...... Would the standard steel core AP ammo be a no go? Obviously importation would be an issue, but could it realisticly be made here then loaded into primed brass since it's not a pistol round? |
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Posted: 12/3/2011 9:37:59 AM EDT
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Quoted: It is a prerequisite that Russians must design all weapons to look like junk. This. Sounds like they are knocking off the 50 Beowulf type guns. |
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Posted: 12/3/2011 9:42:14 AM EDT
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I am a little surprised no one has IDed the massive mystery revolver. Judging by the size of the cylinder I am wondering if it could also be in 12.7 x 55? that's boring compared to the pump action grenade launcher on the table no-one has noticed....... I agree. There is little to no English language info on this. I am hoping one of our Russian members will be able to provide more info. http://world.guns.ru/grenade/rus/gm-94-e.html |
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Posted: 12/3/2011 9:46:48 AM EDT
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And I thought that .50 cal submachine guns were only an invention of Fallout New Vegas! I thought the same thing. 4073 |
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Posted: 12/3/2011 10:07:59 AM EDT
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I was not aware Century was exporting their AK bullpup kit hardeeharhar 
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Posted: 12/3/2011 10:22:36 AM EDT
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The more I think about it, the more I wonder wtf the Russians plan to use a full auto bullpup carbine that fires what could be the ballistic equivalent of a 458 Winchester magnum for?
 It makes me wonder if they have some kind of secret super soldier program that's creating some huge hulkish spetznatz or something.
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Posted: 12/3/2011 10:37:15 AM EDT
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Hellboy wants his revolver back.
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Posted: 12/3/2011 10:39:53 AM EDT
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The State Dept had some .50 Beowulfs in Iraq. Used them for stopping vehicles. I heard they worked great when shooting down from a chopper through the hood into the engine........ You siad it - that was fun 
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Posted: 12/3/2011 10:49:01 AM EDT
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Sort of want...
Traditional AK in 12.7x55mm? Oh fuck yes. |
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Posted: 12/3/2011 10:54:01 AM EDT
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That's nothing more than a novelty range toy.
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Posted: 12/3/2011 10:54:32 AM EDT
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Has trigger discipline not been invented in Russia yet? In Soviet Russia, Trigger discipline YOU! Sorry, I had to.
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Posted: 12/3/2011 2:11:44 PM EDT
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Added source to original post. I don't know where the second pic came from.
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