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Posted: 11/15/2011 7:01:22 PM EDT

[#1]

Quoted:

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Here is a statistic that might interest you.

If you visit an average sized American shopping mall on a busy weekend afternoon If you hang out in GD, the odds are that one person in that mall with you on this forum is a murderer.

Think about that the next time you are getting lazy about taking your CCW piece with you someplace.

Fixed.

Entirely possible as well of course.

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:02:17 PM EDT

[#2]

I'm a CO and work the area of the jail where all the real "bad" guys live. It's a scary thing sometimes to walk into a unit alone, with only a radio and a sometimes OC spray, and tell a motherfucker that has three tear drop tattoos under his eye to button up his jumpsuit, clean up his cell or some other menial shit and they do it.

I could name a couple of murders that you all may have heard of, but that would violate OPSEC.

In my previous profession I did meet OJ and was about 15ft away from Bill "BJ" Clinton.

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:04:29 PM EDT

[#3]

I used to work for Walt Rines and Sanford Wallace-someone who doesn't work in IT probably isn't familiar with their names though. At one time they were the two most notorious e-mail spammers in the world. Google them for more info. Sysadmins all over the planet used to consider them the antichrist.

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Posted: 11/15/2011 7:04:35 PM EDT

[#4]

Played golf with a guy once who later murdered someone in a bar in front of ton of witnesses.

A guy at work turned out to be a child molester. He was a responsible hard-working guy with a good rep. You certainly can't tell by appearance.

Another guy I knew went nuts and killed himself by putting a handgun in his mouth and pulling the trigger. Brains went everywhere. He did it right in front of his girlfriend who was leaving him. At least he didn't kill her first.

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:05:52 PM EDT

[#5]

Two people. One guy I went to church with, killed his girlfriend that was married to another guy.
The other partook in a beating that turned into a homicide. He is now facing life in prison and was once one of my best friends in middle school.

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:07:10 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Here is a statistic that might interest you.

If you visit an average sized American shopping mall on a busy weekend afternoon If you hang out in GD, the odds are that one person in that mall with you on this forum is a murderer.

Think about that the next time you are getting lazy about taking your CCW piece with you someplace.

Fixed.

Entirely possible as well of course.

I'd actually put the ratio higher here than your local mall, given that a site devoted to "tactical" guns is attractive to nutters/88's/hard cores/etc. I know that 98% of the ARFcommers I've met at shoots were just normal guys, but the 2%'s that scared me were genuinely sketchy, fucked up people...and I learned to suss folks like that out very very well.

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:07:29 PM EDT

[#7]

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T. Cullen Davis.

You older Texas guys might remember him.

I've met him.

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:09:29 PM EDT

[#8]

I was working in NYC in late September and decided to walk down to the WTC site from my downtown hotel.

The OWS bunch was there, just getting started. Michael Moore was on-camera being interviewed. It occurred to me that I could make national news by walking up to him and knocking him out. I value my employment so I decided not to.

I still wrestle with that decision.

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:10:21 PM EDT

[#9]

Couple guys I worked with are in prison for murder.

They were supposedly bounty hunters, but I think they were just trying to rip drug money.

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:12:43 PM EDT

[#10]

Post #3000.

Growing up, several of my friends hung out with Arthur Gary Bishop at his apartment.

I knew one of his victims quite well. I also knew the boy he was living with when they caught him.

But mercifully, I don't think I ever encountered him.

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:13:20 PM EDT

[#11]

Yes. Lee Majors(bionic man) circa '75. John's At The Beach, Ventura,Ca. He was trying to hit on my nympho girl friend

He was with several nice lady's. Probably should have made some offers

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:14:51 PM EDT

[#12]

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Mike Tyson, OJ, Sirhan Sirhan, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Obama, Michelle Obama, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, Tipper Gore, Harry Reid, John McCain

Sadly, there is likely more, but I try to forget all of the bad ones. Some you just can't

My good buddy, retired Sergeant from the 32 Pct in Harlem @ NYCPD about 6 years ago, and he talked to me about the time Bill Clinton came by an area he was in, and how he had to turn his back because he could not stand the thought of having to say hello, or be respectful, while in uniform.

For me personally, I grew up in an influential suburb of NYC, we'd have trash in our area all the time. I'll never forget the evening when Lawrence Taylor (LT of the NY Giants) came screeching into a local late night bar, side ways with his MB drunk, and blew two tires off of it while parking. He was a real mean bastard back then and this was prior to his rape charges!

Richard Nixon also lived in my town and I met him a few times. I never thought he was a crook but some here might. I also met him in the White House when he was President as my Uncle was a Secret Service agent back then...that was pretty cool.

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:16:45 PM EDT

[#13]

I was in a barber shop in my home town when Adlai Stevenson III walked in and asked to speak to the customers, I laughed out loud when the owner and head barber told him to get his ass out and take his socialism some place else. I was in Greek town Chicago when our ex Governor Thompson was out campaigning, he came to our table and shook eveyones hand. He was one of two governors we've had in the last thirty years who didn't have to serve federal time. He is also known in this state for defending all the governors in this state that have served federal time since the 70s. I also met Illinois Senator Charles Percy as a kid when he ran for the senate the first time. . I don't know I have a knack for meeting political hacks.

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:21:15 PM EDT

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I met former congressman and Vietnam ace Randy "Duke" Cunningham at the USAF airforce museum many years ago. Long before he was known as a crooked, disgraced ex-congressman and convicted felon.

Admired the guy greatly, very sad to see what he did to himself.

Aside from his stupid crimes (construction graft) that he was caught for, RC is actually one of the only War Ace's of the Viet Nam era, and a real war hero. Sad story indeed....

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:22:07 PM EDT

[#15]

Jeff Kosden. Used to hang out after work and drink. This was before he decided it'd be a good idea to hide the body of his girlfriend's ex-husband after she shot him. Among other stupid shit. He's lucky he's not under the jail given the ex-husband's family.

Should've known there was something off about that guy...he drank Bud Ice.

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:23:30 PM EDT

[#16]

I was taking a piss in the airport bathroom and this shadow shows up next to me, so I took a look

and next to me is standing a 7'2" Kareem Abdul Jabbar!

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:23:39 PM EDT

[#17]

Another HS buddy-

""Killer who spent half of life on death row to die tonight," by Michael Graczyk. (AP Jan. 25, 2005, 8:33PM)

A condemned killer who twice avoided execution last year when courts halted his punishment on the day he was to die was executed today for a slaying in Corpus Christi more than 20 years ago. The execution came after the U.S. Supreme Court refused on a narrow 5-4 vote to block Troy Kunkle's execution.

Kunkle was contrite as he looked toward the daughter and son-in-law of his victim, Stephen Horton, and sought their forgiveness. "I would like to ask you to forgive me," he said. "I made a mistake and I am sorry for what I did. All I can do is ask you to forgive me." Kunkle then turned his head toward an adjacent window in the death house and expressed love to witnesses he selected to watch him die, including his mother and his wife. "I love you and I will see all of you in heaven," he said. "I love you very much. Praise Jesus."

Kunkle recited the Lord's Prayer and then indicated to the warden he had finished. In the seconds before the lethal drugs began taking effect, he repeatedly mouthed "I love you" to his friends and relatives. He exhaled slightly and gasped before he slipped into unconsciousness. Eight minutes later, at 8:12 p.m. CST, he was pronounced dead. "Shame to Texas," his wife, Christa Heber, said as she watched him die.

Kunkle, 38, spent more than half of his life on death row for the death of Horton, 31, who was fatally shot and robbed of $13. The 1984 shooting gained notoriety with disclosures Kunkle, from San Antonio and then just over 18, quoted lyrics of a song by the heavy metal rock group Metallica after Horton was gunned down. The lethal injection was the second of the year in Texas, the nation's busiest execution state. "

'According to trial testimony, Kunkle said, "another day, another death, another sorrow, another breath" after the killing. These words are the refrain to "No Remorse," a song from Metallica's 1983 album "Kill 'Em All." As the judge was listening to the album - which depicts a pool of blood on the cover - Kunkle reportedly pretended to play a guitar. He became known as the "No Remorse" killer. '

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:24:16 PM EDT

[#18]

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T. Cullen Davis.

You older Texas guys might remember him.

I've met him.

Creepy guy, knowing his history.

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:26:29 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:

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Mike Tyson, OJ, Sirhan Sirhan, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Obama, Michelle Obama, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, Tipper Gore, Harry Reid, John McCain

Sadly, there is likely more, but I try to forget all of the bad ones. Some you just can't

My good buddy, retired Sergeant from the 32 Pct in Harlem @ NYCPD about 6 years ago, and he talked to me about the time Bill Clinton came by an area he was in, and how he had to turn his back because he could not stand the thought of having to say hello, or be respectful, while in uniform.

For me personally, I grew up in an influential suburb of NYC, we'd have trash in our area all the time. I'll never forget the evening when Lawrence Taylor (LT of the NY Giants) came screeching into a local late night bar, side ways with his MB drunk, and blew two tires off of it while parking. He was a real mean bastard back then and this was prior to his rape charges!

Richard Nixon also lived in my town and I met him a few times. I never thought he was a crook but some here might. I also met him in the White House when he was President as my Uncle was a Secret Service agent back then...that was pretty cool.

That's cool. I bet he had some interesting stories.

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:30:43 PM EDT

[#20]

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Went Pheasant Hunting with Joe Foss when I was a kid.

He said infamous, not famous

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:31:42 PM EDT

[#21]

Had Nitro Circus come do a show at my company's year end party.

It was an absolute blast. The sky dived in

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:32:12 PM EDT

[#22]

I went to Jr High School with Jeffery Dahmer

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:33:41 PM EDT

[#23]

Just a couple of scumbags...

Saul Alinsky was invited to speak at my small high school, and I took a couple of rolls of film of closeups of him as he sat two feet away from me.

Patsy Schroeder passed by me as I was walking down the hall of a hotel in NYC, and it took all of my restraint to prevent myself from verbally abusing the traitor.

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:36:01 PM EDT

[#24]

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Salvatore "Sammy the Bull" Gravano. I used to see him once a month or so. Just another guy to me at the time. Then I saw him on the news one day, and never ran into him again.

The captain of my HS wrestling team was Sammy's Texas ecstasy connection- well, before they all got popped anyways. ... think the ex connection has a pool cleaning service in AZ still....Sammy not so much.

(oddly enough- I knew a LT. for the connection that went on to join the police force here.

Mentioned here:

http://americanmafia.com/Feature_Articles_60.html

and

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/gangsters_outlaws/mob_bosses/gravano/contradiction_25.html

Yep, I met him, his wife, and his son in Scottsdale. Sam and his wife were cool, his son not so much- bit of a short man syndrome going on there.

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:41:31 PM EDT

[#25]

YES.
My old man was a detective on NY years ago. There were many people i and other family members were introduced to over time. Due to the nature of a few business i was in also met many famous and infamous folks.
I also worked with 2 guys, in different jobs whose brothers are on death row, go figure.

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:45:05 PM EDT

[#26]

Having worked in the county jail for the last six years, I've got to know every murderer, rapist, child molester and big time dope slinger that comes through. Dale Wayne Eaton (The "Lil' Miss" Murderer), The Craigslist Rapist (and the guy who set it all up) and several others that have made big news, maybe not national but surely big news for podunk Wyoming.

Also met Kenneth O. Preston, SMA once in Kuwait. Big whoop.

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:52:05 PM EDT

[#27]

I ran into Jessie Jackson at Detroit Metro Airport this Sept. He reeks of slimeball.

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:52:17 PM EDT

[#28]

When I first started as a CO I worked at the prison that Larry Demery was housed. He was one of the scumbags that murdered James R. Jordan, Sr., the father of Michael Jordan.

Vulcan94

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:55:10 PM EDT

[#29]

Had a beer next to Chris Dodd. I refused to make smalltalk.

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:58:06 PM EDT

[#30]

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about 15 years ago we were doing a job at statesville prison outside of chicago. a convict walked in with paint covered clothes, he stopped and stood about 3 - 4 feet away from me. he started joking around with the guards and construction workers standing there waiting to start work. after a few minutes the con walked away so i asked the guard who he was, the guard looked me in the eye and said it was richard speck... be careful!

when i was 15 years old i worked in a custom cabinet shop after school. one of the shops best customers was john wayne gacy. i remember shaking his slimy hand like it was yesterday. my older brother, brother in law and some of the older guys in the shop went to one of his 4th of july block parties. they all said his house had a weird smell to it.

Har, I've been in a jail with one of Speck's relatives. I am in constant contact with scumbags. I am always dealing with fucking lawyers.

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:58:13 PM EDT

[#31]

Bill Clinton and Billy Ray Citus . Both offered me autographs, I said " no thank you " to both.

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:58:25 PM EDT

[#32]

I have interviewed Adrian Camacho several times. http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060208/news_7m8camacho.html

My wife did the Probation Report on David Westerfield: http://www.10news.com/news/1670250/detail.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Westerfield

Posted: 11/15/2011 7:59:15 PM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:

Here is a statistic that might interest you.

If you visit an average sized American shopping mall on a busy weekend afternoon, the odds are that one person in that mall with you is a murderer.

Think about that the next time you are getting lazy about taking your CCW piece with you someplace.

QFT.. I went to school in the lehigh valley, I used to see these two in the Whitehall mall at least once a week,.. Infact the day before this happened I seen them in the Lehigh Cinema (no longer there) coming out of Highlander 2 or 3 whatever it was

Before they got caught, I got pulled over on RT22 because so the could make sure I wasnt one of them ( more or less the officers exact words) because I had short hair

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/family/freeman_brothers/index.html

Posted: 11/15/2011 8:00:47 PM EDT

[#34]

Passed Richard Nixon walking down 5th Ave in Anchorage. He had one guy trailing him about 15 ft behind him..

Posted: 11/15/2011 8:02:09 PM EDT

[#35]

As part of my duties as a grand jury foreman I got to swear in and later question an accused murderer who had decided to testify at his own hearing––it was kind of creepy.
I also got to swear in and question some district judges who were testifying about another <allegedly> corrupt judge. Kinda weird administering the oath to prominent judges. Some of them looked a little out of sorts.

Posted: 11/15/2011 8:06:38 PM EDT

[#36]

I met a guy this summer. Shook his hand he was a pretty funny guy. Turns out he was a bank robber that had had robbed a few local banks and had spent 10 years in prison. I would never had guessed it.

Posted: 11/15/2011 8:12:10 PM EDT

[#37]

When I was a kid my father introduced me to a fellow police officer who shot his partner 3 times while they sat in their cruiser. It was ruled an accident.
The "shootee" was banging the shooter's wife.....cops got away with a lot more than they do now back in the 70's.

I'm not sure if this counts, but the Black Panther Party wanted me dead....and I was only six!

My father and another police officer were jumped by a group of Panthers. One sliced my father's leather jacket open with a knife, so my father shot him in the head. Amazingly he lived (yep...police issue .38 at close range) and got 10 years in prison. Black Panthers told reporters they were going to kill my father and his family.

We spent the next couple of months "in an unisclosed location" with 24 hour police protection. The early 70's really sucked.

Posted: 11/15/2011 8:12:21 PM EDT

[#38]

I can't talk about it much right now, but at work I rented an excavator to someone who is now a suspect in a missing persons case. Said scumbag lived in my neighborhood.

I carry... every.... day...

ETA: he's not infamous... but he is a scumbag.

Posted: 11/15/2011 8:13:35 PM EDT

[#39]

I met OJ on a golf course in Florida a few years before he killed his wife.

Having spent a decade in law enforcement, I've met numerous scumbags but very few of any notoriety. Oh yeah, I did meet someone who met Chris Hanson.

Posted: 11/15/2011 8:20:33 PM EDT

[#40]

I used to live in the neighborhood next to Al Gore's neighborhood. Queasy enough for me.

Posted: 11/15/2011 8:28:59 PM EDT

[#41]

Hillary Clinton, Atlantic Aviation FBO Teterboro, NJ.

Posted: 11/15/2011 8:35:57 PM EDT

[#42]

When I was a teenager, I was at a BBQ with Roger Arnold, one of the suspects in the Tylenol murders in Chicago.
Creepy guy.

http://americanfraud.com/Rogerarnold.aspx

Posted: 11/15/2011 8:37:55 PM EDT

[#43]

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Hillary Clinton, Atlantic Aviation FBO Teterboro, NJ.

I ended up in the VIP departure lounge at Reagan National with a protectee, and Hillary was already there when we got there. I also took a different protectee to a "Hillary for President" fundraiser in Houston. I shook Huma Abedin's hand that night, but passed on a chance to meet Hilldog.

Posted: 11/15/2011 8:59:26 PM EDT

[#44]

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Just a couple of scumbags...

Saul Alinsky was invited to speak at my small high school and I took a couple of rolls of film of closeups of him as he sat two feet away from me.

Patsy Schroeder passed by me as I was walking down the hall of a hotel in NYC, and it took all of my restraint to prevent myself from verbally abusing the traitor.

Saul Alinsky was touring high schools? That's fucking disturbing.

Posted: 11/15/2011 9:04:03 PM EDT

[#45]

I've been 18" away from the man who stole my vehicle... In front of the vehicle, which he was selling on Craigslist.

He had no idea it was mine.

I was carrying.

Posted: 11/15/2011 9:27:51 PM EDT

[#46]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Just a couple of scumbags...

Saul Alinsky was invited to speak at my small high school and I took a couple of rolls of film of closeups of him as he sat two feet away from me.

Patsy Schroeder passed by me as I was walking down the hall of a hotel in NYC, and it took all of my restraint to prevent myself from verbally abusing the traitor.

Saul Alinsky was touring high schools? That's fucking disturbing.

Yes, although I didn't understand the implications of it at the time. It was probably 1969 or 1970 at a New England prep school. I understood little about politics at the time, but even then it was clear that the teachers were trying to push the students in a leftward direction, and Alinsky was treated like royalty. I didn't start figuring out how the world really works until about my sophomore year in college (when I first read Atlas Shrugged).

Posted: 11/15/2011 9:31:46 PM EDT

[#47]

Saw Robert Browne in solitary confinement on a tour of one of America's most famous supermax prisons. Only convicted of 2 murders, but claimed to have killed 48 and made a map depicting how many victims in each state. Dude looked....rather creepy.

Posted: 11/15/2011 9:39:13 PM EDT

[#48]

Death Row, Angola State Prison, Louisiana.

Shot a few TV pieces there.

Bill

Posted: 11/15/2011 10:04:30 PM EDT

[#49]

One day a kid in highschool a kid was missing from my PE class. Later in the day we found out he killed a kid by repeatedly slamming his head in a car door then stomping on what was left