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Link Posted: 10/10/2011 3:21:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/10/2011 3:22:07 AM EDT by jeep450]
How large was the heaviest payload you have loaded before? And what was it if you can tell?
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 3:28:19 AM EDT
Do B-52 pilots enjoy low level terrain following with the flash curtains pulled shut?
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 3:28:39 AM EDT
Minot was my first duty station, June 83-86, as an LE, before the SP career field was merged. How in the hell did a BUFF from Minot manage to fly all the way to LA with live nukes on the wings and NO ONE noticed that they left the ground?????


How many people were kicked out because of this???
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 4:19:41 AM EDT

Originally Posted By BuffLuver:
Minot was my first duty station, June 83-86, as an LE, before the SP career field was merged. How in the hell did a BUFF from Minot manage to fly all the way to LA with live nukes on the wings and NO ONE noticed that they left the ground?????


How many people were kicked out because of this???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_United_States_Air_Force_nuclear_weapons_incident
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 4:26:38 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Beamy:
Been active duty now a little over seven years. Did about five and half of them as a C-130 Crew Chief, now have about a year and a half on the BUFF



title changed


Ted Striker: My orders came through. My squadron ships out tomorrow. We're bombing the storage depots at Daiquiri at 1800 hours. We're coming in from the north, below their radar.

Elaine Dickinson: When will you be back?

Ted Striker: I can't tell you that. It's classified
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 9:37:30 AM EDT
Originally Posted By jeep450:
How large was the heaviest payload you have loaded before? And what was it if you can tell?


full load of 20 AGM-86's are the heaviest payloads I've seen loaded on them so far, now as a crew chief though I have nothing to do with loading the weapons
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 9:38:35 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Z_0:
Do B-52 pilots enjoy low level terrain following with the flash curtains pulled shut?


never asked them
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 9:42:14 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Zack3g:
A couple questions.

First, tell me everything you can about this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/zack3gpics/d90/7e856b63.jpg


Second, why would there be a group of those ^

being escorted by some of these:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/zack3gpics/d90/5b8376c0.jpg

around Shreveport, LA?

Training exercise? Doesn't look like the -15 is carrying anything.


What time did that happen? I didn't get to see them.

Btw, were you at the Revel in Shreveport this weekend Zack3g?
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 9:42:37 AM EDT
Do any of the birds have nose art? If so, what are some of their names?
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 9:51:48 AM EDT
Originally Posted By SnowboundinNH:
While we're on the subject..........we lost 3 C-130 engines on a jump. I'll withhold my true feelings about how we felt for not being allowed to jump outta that death trap. We were all chuted up but you guys wouldn't let us out. grumble grumble grumble.......
I was impressed that only one engine kept us going long enough to make it back to the airfield. How far can one engine pull a C-130? What are the chances of losing 3 engines on one flight? And what would you say was the most likely cause? And oh yeah, is there any specific reason we couldn't GTFO? Weight distribution? Payback? Nobody would tell us anything, its a mystery.


Engine rollback is a well know issue with the older C-130's.
Google up "engine rollback King 56".

No matter what the weight is of a C-130 all single engine operations is going to do is ensure that you have electrical and hydraulics when you crash.

How long were you in the air after the three engines shut down?
Which engine kept running, inboard or outboard?

You might not have been allowed to jump because the pilot didn't want to deal with the sudden change of CG after you guys left the aircraft, you might have been too close to the ground, it was not safe to let you jump or the crew didn't want to deal with letting you jump because they were too busy trying to land the aircraft.

Link Posted: 10/10/2011 9:51:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/10/2011 9:54:32 AM EDT by rdnkar]
Originally Posted By BuffLuver:
Do any of the birds have nose art? If so, what are some of their names?


and where can we view the nose art?
do the planes keep their art for the life of the plane or will it change with the crew?
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 9:52:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/10/2011 9:52:33 AM EDT by KA3B]
Dupe post - ARFcom hiccup.
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 10:18:28 AM EDT
Originally Posted By BuffLuver:
Do any of the birds have nose art? If so, what are some of their names?


The reason I am asking is when I was at Minot, 83-86, none of the planes were authorized to have nose art. I understand that restriction was lifted a few years ago.
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 10:22:04 AM EDT
Originally Posted By BuffLuver:
Originally Posted By BuffLuver:
Do any of the birds have nose art? If so, what are some of their names?


The reason I am asking is when I was at Minot, 83-86, none of the planes were authorized to have nose art. I understand that restriction was lifted a few years ago.


a lot of them have nose art now, granted save for the Memphis Belle IV down at Barksdale its nothing like what was on planes in WWII or Korea. That kind of stuff would offend people

my jet, 017 doesn't have any on it yet, her name when she was at Barksdale was Peacemaker, so I'm thinking of keeping that name and using two crossed Colt 1873's as its nose art
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 10:22:59 AM EDT
Did you ever get to fly into a hurricane/storm tracker in the C-130?

If so what was it like?

If no hurricane what was the worst turbulance you experienced?
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 10:24:17 AM EDT
Originally Posted By rdnkar:
Originally Posted By BuffLuver:
Do any of the birds have nose art? If so, what are some of their names?


and where can we view the nose art?
do the planes keep their art for the life of the plane or will it change with the crew?


go to Airliners.net and do a B-52 search, or go to Barksdale AFB and Minot AFB's webpage and look at the aircraft photos on their public website
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 10:26:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/10/2011 10:27:33 AM EDT by Beamy]
Originally Posted By HellifIknow:
Did you ever get to fly into a hurricane/storm tracker in the C-130?

If so what was it like?

If no hurricane what was the worst turbulance you experienced?


AFRC ( AF reserve) does that job. Never got to fly in one, But I had to do a BPO (basic post flight inspection) and 15 day lube/ prop hydro service on two WC-130E's that were stuck at Dyess for a little while following Katrina in Autumn of 2005. For a young A1C who was only working trash hauling slicks, the weather birds had a neat set up
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 11:28:04 AM EDT
I believe 017 was at Dyess back in '84 before the first Bone showed-up. They still had black belly D's when I showed-up in '82.
I was bummed when I got My orders at Tech school. I wanted to be a CC on BUFF's, not "Polish Whisper Jets"......'till I talked to a BUFF CC. I'm damn glad They put Me on Herks. It's fun to go along. (I got in about 500 hours or so...mostly going to No Hope Pope.)

I could do a 15-20 minute Pe-Flight on a Herky & be perfectly happy to fly on it.
A Buff CC told Me a Pre-Flight was a 8 man hour ordeal on the H Models He worked at Ellsworth! Accumulators O'Plenty!

One early morn I was in Hanger 5020 waiting on Specialist & there was a B-52H (I think it was 023) parked in there with no one around. I spent over an hour reading the forms. IIRC, it took-off with over 50 pages of Write-ups & landed with over a hundred more...mostly electrical gremlins!
A Herky pilot would freak if there were 3 pages of open Minors.



The Ol' Crew Chief
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 11:52:08 AM EDT
What's the combination to the rudder lock?
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 11:55:17 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Willmar:
Originally Posted By Zack3g:
A couple questions.

First, tell me everything you can about this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/zack3gpics/d90/7e856b63.jpg


Second, why would there be a group of those ^

being escorted by some of these:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/zack3gpics/d90/5b8376c0.jpg

around Shreveport, LA?

Training exercise? Doesn't look like the -15 is carrying anything.


What time did that happen? I didn't get to see them.

Btw, were you at the Revel in Shreveport this weekend Zack3g?


Nope, not my area.

I was doing some work around there earlier this year and got the pics.
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 12:51:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/10/2011 12:52:28 PM EDT by Beamy]
Originally Posted By c130montana:
I believe 017 was at Dyess back in '84 before the first Bone showed-up. They still had black belly D's when I showed-up in '82.
I was bummed when I got My orders at Tech school. I wanted to be a CC on BUFF's, not "Polish Whisper Jets"......'till I talked to a BUFF CC. I'm damn glad They put Me on Herks. It's fun to go along. (I got in about 500 hours or so...mostly going to No Hope Pope.)

I could do a 15-20 minute Pe-Flight on a Herky & be perfectly happy to fly on it.
A Buff CC told Me a Pre-Flight was a 8 man hour ordeal on the H Models He worked at Ellsworth! Accumulators O'Plenty!

One early morn I was in Hanger 5020 waiting on Specialist & there was a B-52H (I think it was 023) parked in there with no one around. I spent over an hour reading the forms. IIRC, it took-off with over 50 pages of Write-ups & landed with over a hundred more...mostly electrical gremlins!
A Herky pilot would freak if there were 3 pages of open Minors.



The Ol' Crew Chief


montana, I had one hell of a time going from the Herk to the BUFF for those reasons above listed. Compared to the Herk the BUFF is a damn Maintenance hog. As to the accumulators the BUFF has 9 of them.

kinda neat to hear that 023 and 017 were both at Dyess because they're both up here as well. From what I'm seeing and reading the H model BUFF's got around

as to Herk's at Dyess, did you ever crew 1665, 2061, 1675, and Damian (1666)? Those were the four that I crewed either at home or in the sandbox
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 1:03:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GIJoe:
What's the combination to the rudder lock?


BR549
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 1:04:34 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 1:09:02 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Beamy:
Originally Posted By c130montana:
I believe 017 was at Dyess back in '84 before the first Bone showed-up. They still had black belly D's when I showed-up in '82.
I was bummed when I got My orders at Tech school. I wanted to be a CC on BUFF's, not "Polish Whisper Jets"......'till I talked to a BUFF CC. I'm damn glad They put Me on Herks. It's fun to go along. (I got in about 500 hours or so...mostly going to No Hope Pope.)

I could do a 15-20 minute Pe-Flight on a Herky & be perfectly happy to fly on it.
A Buff CC told Me a Pre-Flight was a 8 man hour ordeal on the H Models He worked at Ellsworth! Accumulators O'Plenty!

One early morn I was in Hanger 5020 waiting on Specialist & there was a B-52H (I think it was 023) parked in there with no one around. I spent over an hour reading the forms. IIRC, it took-off with over 50 pages of Write-ups & landed with over a hundred more...mostly electrical gremlins!
A Herky pilot would freak if there were 3 pages of open Minors.



The Ol' Crew Chief


montana, I had one hell of a time going from the Herk to the BUFF for those reasons above listed. Compared to the Herk the BUFF is a damn Maintenance hog. As to the accumulators the BUFF has 9 of them.

kinda neat to hear that 023 and 017 were both at Dyess because they're both up here as well. From what I'm seeing and reading the H model BUFF's got around

as to Herk's at Dyess, did you ever crew 1665, 2061, 1675, and Damian (1666)? Those were the four that I crewed either at home or in the sandbox


My first was 1676 (Alaska now), then 2131. then 2063 ("Christine"). She had a mind of Her own & would crap all over the Ramp when a CC other than Ciccaroni or I took Her TDY. I had two "Specialists" call Her a "Pig" while working on Her. They both were on the way to the ER within 5 minutes. One tried to scalp Himself with a #2 prop blade & the other ran safety wire all the way through His hand. She hated "Specialists" & didn't like being called a Pig.
In the 18 months She allowed Me to Crew Her, She never once let Me down while out in the system.



The Ol' Crew Chief
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 1:52:51 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ultramagbrion:
Originally Posted By GIJoe:
What's the combination to the rudder lock?


BR549


Naw, naw, that's the locker that holds the can of K9P.
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 1:57:46 PM EDT
Can you smoke in filght?
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 2:10:48 PM EDT
Originally Posted By AeroE:
What's the tire pressure in the mains on a B-52? for gross weights below 460k––240+/-5psi for the front, 280+/-psi for the rear; above 460k its 260+/-5psi for the front, 305+/- 5psi for the rear

How many plies are in the tires? would have to look in either the 4T or the lading gear GA for that one

How about the same information for the outriggers? 75psi across the board



Link Posted: 10/10/2011 2:12:39 PM EDT
Originally Posted By c130montana:
Originally Posted By Beamy:
Originally Posted By c130montana:
I believe 017 was at Dyess back in '84 before the first Bone showed-up. They still had black belly D's when I showed-up in '82.
I was bummed when I got My orders at Tech school. I wanted to be a CC on BUFF's, not "Polish Whisper Jets"......'till I talked to a BUFF CC. I'm damn glad They put Me on Herks. It's fun to go along. (I got in about 500 hours or so...mostly going to No Hope Pope.)

I could do a 15-20 minute Pe-Flight on a Herky & be perfectly happy to fly on it.
A Buff CC told Me a Pre-Flight was a 8 man hour ordeal on the H Models He worked at Ellsworth! Accumulators O'Plenty!

One early morn I was in Hanger 5020 waiting on Specialist & there was a B-52H (I think it was 023) parked in there with no one around. I spent over an hour reading the forms. IIRC, it took-off with over 50 pages of Write-ups & landed with over a hundred more...mostly electrical gremlins!
A Herky pilot would freak if there were 3 pages of open Minors.



The Ol' Crew Chief


montana, I had one hell of a time going from the Herk to the BUFF for those reasons above listed. Compared to the Herk the BUFF is a damn Maintenance hog. As to the accumulators the BUFF has 9 of them.

kinda neat to hear that 023 and 017 were both at Dyess because they're both up here as well. From what I'm seeing and reading the H model BUFF's got around

as to Herk's at Dyess, did you ever crew 1665, 2061, 1675, and Damian (1666)? Those were the four that I crewed either at home or in the sandbox


My first was 1676 (Alaska now), then 2131. then 2063 ("Christine"). She had a mind of Her own & would crap all over the Ramp when a CC other than Ciccaroni or I took Her TDY. I had two "Specialists" call Her a "Pig" while working on Her. They both were on the way to the ER within 5 minutes. One tried to scalp Himself with a #2 prop blade & the other ran safety wire all the way through His hand. She hated "Specialists" & didn't like being called a Pig.
In the 18 months She allowed Me to Crew Her, She never once let Me down while out in the system.



The Ol' Crew Chief


when I left there in May 2010, 1676 had come back there along with 1664 and another Alaska jet. 2131 is now at Yakota, and 2063 was still known as Christine
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 2:13:10 PM EDT
How many times have you gone to pull chocks and the rope was wet but it hadn't rained, then your hands smelled like piss
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 2:14:27 PM EDT
Originally Posted By AtomicRooster:
Can you smoke in filght?


not anymore, BUT a lot of the BUFF's still have the ash trays installed on them, and on the Herks what you do is go back to the cargo door flapper valves, open up the valve and light up until a loadmaster would get mad and yell at you

I don't smoke, but I've seen the former happen on a few flights
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 2:15:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By wilNva:
How many times have you gone to pull chocks and the rope was wet but it hadn't rained, then your hands smelled like piss


never happened to me, happened to a few guys I know, but yeah such events call for either spec beat downs or if aircrew did it we call over our higher supervison
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 2:17:57 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Beamy:
Originally Posted By wilNva:
How many times have you gone to pull chocks and the rope was wet but it hadn't rained, then your hands smelled like piss


never happened to me, happened to a few guys I know, but yeah such events call for either spec beat downs or if aircrew did it we call over our higher supervison


Don't blame the SP's, we always pissed behind the blast shields!!
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 2:19:12 PM EDT
Do B-52s still have .50-cal tail guns?
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 2:19:12 PM EDT
Are the Jets going to the superbowl this year?
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 2:19:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BuffLuver:
Originally Posted By Beamy:
Originally Posted By wilNva:
How many times have you gone to pull chocks and the rope was wet but it hadn't rained, then your hands smelled like piss


never happened to me, happened to a few guys I know, but yeah such events call for either spec beat downs or if aircrew did it we call over our higher supervison


Don't blame the SP's, we always pissed behind the blast shields!!


I used to catch SP's sleeping in thier trucks in the winter, I'd pull my truck nose to nose with thiers then blast my horn for 30 seconds and drive away
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 2:26:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By AeroE:
What's the tire pressure in the mains on a B-52?

How many plies are in the tires?


How about the same information for the outriggers?



Do the outriggers generally take any weight or do they just protect from the odd weird bounce?

Link Posted: 10/10/2011 2:29:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By wilNva:
Originally Posted By BuffLuver:
Originally Posted By Beamy:
Originally Posted By wilNva:
How many times have you gone to pull chocks and the rope was wet but it hadn't rained, then your hands smelled like piss


never happened to me, happened to a few guys I know, but yeah such events call for either spec beat downs or if aircrew did it we call over our higher supervison


Don't blame the SP's, we always pissed behind the blast shields!!


I used to catch SP's sleeping in thier trucks in the winter, I'd pull my truck nose to nose with thiers then blast my horn for 30 seconds and drive away


When was this?
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 2:35:00 PM EDT
Originally Posted By KA3B:
Originally Posted By SnowboundinNH:
While we're on the subject..........we lost 3 C-130 engines on a jump. I'll withhold my true feelings about how we felt for not being allowed to jump outta that death trap. We were all chuted up but you guys wouldn't let us out. grumble grumble grumble.......
I was impressed that only one engine kept us going long enough to make it back to the airfield. How far can one engine pull a C-130? What are the chances of losing 3 engines on one flight? And what would you say was the most likely cause? And oh yeah, is there any specific reason we couldn't GTFO? Weight distribution? Payback? Nobody would tell us anything, its a mystery.


Engine rollback is a well know issue with the older C-130's.
Google up "engine rollback King 56".

No matter what the weight is of a C-130 all single engine operations is going to do is ensure that you have electrical and hydraulics when you crash.

How long were you in the air after the three engines shut down?
Which engine kept running, inboard or outboard?

You might not have been allowed to jump because the pilot didn't want to deal with the sudden change of CG after you guys left the aircraft, you might have been too close to the ground, it was not safe to let you jump or the crew didn't want to deal with letting you jump because they were too busy trying to land the aircraft.



The drag from the doors, the change of CG,there's a whole bunch of things that had to be taken into account.

I'm an old fart, retired in 97 - but the lowest you could put someone out the door was around 200 feet. If I remember JM school (84 at Bragg), you need 197 feet of altitude to get full deployment on a T-10B. Not that this child would have wanted to make that jump. I heard the guys that did Grenada went out at 500', but the lowest I ever static line jumped was 800. (California desert - hot and high - we came down "real" quick that day.)

Link Posted: 10/10/2011 2:35:38 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GI-45:
Do B-52s still have .50-cal tail guns?


No.
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 2:37:16 PM EDT
Originally Posted By only1asterisk:
Originally Posted By GI-45:
Do B-52s still have .50-cal tail guns?


No.


I believe they are 20 MM Vulcan guns.
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 2:42:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/10/2011 2:44:52 PM EDT by only1asterisk]
Originally Posted By BuffLuver:
Originally Posted By only1asterisk:
Originally Posted By GI-45:
Do B-52s still have .50-cal tail guns?


No.


I believe they are 20 MM Vulcan guns.


The H Model had 20mm. All previous had had quad .50's.

There are none since '91-92 when they were all removed.

Link Posted: 10/10/2011 3:00:51 PM EDT
Just before I got out (fall '85) Christine was in Fuel Smell for work on #2 main.
After midnight shift change, Evening shift was wondering where AMN Joe was.
They found him dead in the tank. They surmised He thought He could go in & locate a lost tool all by His lonesome & against all the Regs.
I knew He must have called Her a pig.

I told You she didn't like "Specialists"!!!



The Ol' crew Chief
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 3:05:45 PM EDT
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 3:12:11 PM EDT
OP,

How many T Handles on your Herk?

Link Posted: 10/10/2011 3:20:55 PM EDT




My first was 1676 (Alaska now), then 2131. then 2063 ("Christine"). She had a mind of Her own & would crap all over the Ramp when a CC other than Ciccaroni or I took Her TDY. I had two "Specialists" call Her a "Pig" while working on Her. They both were on the way to the ER within 5 minutes. One tried to scalp Himself with a #2 prop blade & the other ran safety wire all the way through His hand. She hated "Specialists" & didn't like being called a Pig.
In the 18 months She allowed Me to Crew Her, She never once let Me down while out in the system.



The Ol' Crew Chief[/quote]






When did you have 2131? My name was on that bird '80-'82. When I got her, she still had all her origional engines!
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 3:51:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By c130montana:
Just before I got out (fall '85) Christine was in Fuel Smell for work on #2 main.
After midnight shift change, Evening shift was wondering where AMN Joe was.
They found him dead in the tank. They surmised He thought He could go in & locate a lost tool all by His lonesome & against all the Regs.
I knew He must have called Her a pig.

I told You she didn't like "Specialists"!!!



The Ol' crew Chief


You know this as fact? I heard this story when i first came in (82)
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 3:56:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By GIJoe:
Originally Posted By c130montana:
Just before I got out (fall '85) Christine was in Fuel Smell for work on #2 main.
After midnight shift change, Evening shift was wondering where AMN Joe was.
They found him dead in the tank. They surmised He thought He could go in & locate a lost tool all by His lonesome & against all the Regs.
I knew He must have called Her a pig.

I told You she didn't like "Specialists"!!!



The Ol' crew Chief


You know this as fact? I heard this story when i first came in (82)


We as Marines heard this story as well but it was on a Marine Herk and a Marine...

We also heard about the USAF guys leaving a mattress in a main tank and finding on the flight line after the tank ruptured.

Link Posted: 10/10/2011 4:07:08 PM EDT
IBTL.
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 4:20:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/10/2011 4:20:39 PM EDT by tt350z]
Originally Posted By Zack3g:
Originally Posted By Willmar:
Originally Posted By Zack3g:
A couple questions.

First, tell me everything you can about this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/zack3gpics/d90/7e856b63.jpg


Second, why would there be a group of those ^

being escorted by some of these:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/zack3gpics/d90/5b8376c0.jpg

around Shreveport, LA?

Training exercise? Doesn't look like the -15 is carrying anything.


What time did that happen? I didn't get to see them.

Btw, were you at the Revel in Shreveport this weekend Zack3g?


Nope, not my area.

I was doing some work around there earlier this year and got the pics.


Was this in August?

I was TDY there with the Minot BUFF's.

There were 2 reasons why the SJ F-15's were there.

Question for the OP:

Why do jets guys get stuck with doing post I's & E's?
Link Posted: 10/10/2011 4:23:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By juan223:
Are the Jets going to the superbowl this year?


I hope they use Barksdale's jets.
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