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Posted: 9/23/2011 11:23:07 PM

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Former member FUGGIT and I went hunting this evening. We caught a group of ferals out in the open.

We were hunting just a few miles from Terrell, Texas, and spotted these hogs in a large pack (30-35 headcount) in the middle of a pasture. We took advantage of the terrain, and made a good stalk to get within 75yds.

My M16 is the lower one, 9mm, 5.5", triple X suppressor, using some 95 grain ammo given to me by tomac to test on hogs. FUGGIT's M16 is running a 10mm upper and I let him put his gun next to mine so that he could feel special too.

My first burst knocked one hog down. My second tripped a second hog. Bursts 3-5 were misses. The two hogs pictured were each hit with multiple rounds and were laying side-by-side when we walked up. One was spine hit with two visible entrance wounds. The larger one took three rounds (one lung, two hindquarter).

We checked for other hogs, bloodtrails, and did not recover any more from this group.

Before we left, we stopped to smoke a couple of cigars and spotted a lone hog in the middle of a 50 acre field.

I took my M16, with a PVS-22 on it (was now dusk) and crossed the field to get close enough to shoot.

I missed the first, second, and third burst, then I realized I was not leading the hog. By now, the hog was at a dead run, I lead him by six feet and got one round in to him. SNICKPOOMPSQUEAL!

At this point, I knew I must be low on ammo, and with the hog still running away (but slowing) I popped the magazine and saw one round in the mag (two total).

I lead the hog, who was now almost walking, and fired two rounds.

Clean misses.

The hog continued across the field and made his way in to the far treeline.

Five hogs hit, two recovered. And a happy landowner that wants us to come back again to kill some more.

TRG



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Posted: 9/23/2011 11:23:55 PM
in on one.




PS. You're gay.

Originally Posted By EasTexan: "There is no debate. There are Texans then there are the Godless, Commie heathens with their faggy lentils in tow..."

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Posted: 9/23/2011 11:28:32 PM
Originally Posted By the_ak_kid:
in on one.




PS. You're gay.



Not joking...when I saw you had responded, no matter what you had typed, THAT was going to be my response.

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Posted: 9/23/2011 11:30:06 PM
After reading the OP, nice pigs, nice guns, nice job.

Originally Posted By EasTexan: "There is no debate. There are Texans then there are the Godless, Commie heathens with their faggy lentils in tow..."

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Posted: 9/23/2011 11:30:44 PM
Originally Posted By TheRedGoat:
Originally Posted By the_ak_kid:
in on one.




PS. You're gay.



Not joking...when I saw you had responded, no matter what you had typed, THAT was going to be my response.

TRG




I figured. I miss you, and I need it.

Originally Posted By EasTexan: "There is no debate. There are Texans then there are the Godless, Commie heathens with their faggy lentils in tow..."

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Posted: 9/23/2011 11:31:58 PM
30-35 hogs and you just got two?
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Posted: 9/23/2011 11:32:25 PM
Originally Posted By the_ak_kid:
Originally Posted By TheRedGoat:
Originally Posted By the_ak_kid:
in on one.




PS. You're gay.



Not joking...when I saw you had responded, no matter what you had typed, THAT was going to be my response.

TRG




I figured. I miss you, and I need it.



Let's not turn this rape in to a murder.

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Posted: 9/23/2011 11:33:26 PM
Originally Posted By hobbsar:
30-35 hogs and you just got two?


FUGGIT already feels bad about missing, please don't make him feel even worse.

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Posted: 9/23/2011 11:41:17 PM
Nice looking bangsticks!

I didn't think a 9mm had enough punch to kill a hog at that distance. I've wanted to use my 9mm for hogs, but always take my 5.56 just to make sure.
Are you confident in its knock down power if you were charged by them??
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Originally Posted By PowerSlave:
Nice looking bangsticks!

I didn't think a 9mm had enough punch to kill a hog at that distance. I've wanted to use my 9mm for hogs, but always take my 5.56 just to make sure.
Are you confident in its knock down power if you were charged by them??


I've used 9mm for years. 5.56 is cheating.

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Posted: 9/23/2011 11:46:59 PM
Looks like ya'll had a fun evening.

What happened to FUGGIT?
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Originally Posted By electrojk:
Looks like ya'll had a fun evening.

What happened to FUGGIT?


You know the saying, "you are your own worst enemy..." ??

It was nothing like that.

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Posted: 9/24/2011 12:06:26 AM
Originally Posted By TheRedGoat:

You know the saying, "you are your own worst enemy..." ??

It was nothing like that.

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yea, what she said.
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Posted: 9/24/2011 12:08:29 AM
Originally Posted By PowerSlave:
Nice looking bangsticks!

I didn't think a 9mm had enough punch to kill a hog at that distance. I've wanted to use my 9mm for hogs, but always take my 5.56 just to make sure.
Are you confident in its knock down power if you were charged by them??




I seem to remember a thread about some gay guy killing a pig with a 22 short.

Might have been on here...
Originally Posted By EasTexan: "There is no debate. There are Texans then there are the Godless, Commie heathens with their faggy lentils in tow..."

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Posted: 9/24/2011 12:09:57 AM
Originally Posted By the_ak_kid:
Originally Posted By PowerSlave:
Nice looking bangsticks!

I didn't think a 9mm had enough punch to kill a hog at that distance. I've wanted to use my 9mm for hogs, but always take my 5.56 just to make sure.
Are you confident in its knock down power if you were charged by them??




I seem to remember a thread about some gay guy killing a pig with a 22 short.

Might have been on here...


Pretty sure that guy was lying.

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Posted: 9/24/2011 12:22:26 AM
Looks like fun!

Needs more 5.56 though.
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Originally Posted By cda97:
Looks like fun!

Needs more 5.56 though.




Why?
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Sounds like my kinda' fun.
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Posted: 9/24/2011 1:10:38 AM
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I just wanted to see more than two killed hogs.


Originally Posted By the_ak_kid:
Originally Posted By cda97:
Looks like fun!

Needs more 5.56 though.




Why?


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Fuck you and your fucking hog hunts...

"THat thar is duh norf star!" (as hillbilly points at the fucking MOON)... "come on hawg hunters dem dawgs got dem hawgs bayed up!"...

I was in fucking IRAQ and hit a mine, but one night "Hawg Hunting" with you left me emotionally scared for life. Sitting around with the Avilas in shell-shocked silence pulling the ticks off our nut sacks and whimpering... Best vacation ever...
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Posted: 9/24/2011 2:16:44 AM
What ammo are you using in 9mm for the hogs?
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Posted: 9/24/2011 9:07:28 AM
Originally Posted By the_ak_kid:
Originally Posted By cda97:
Looks like fun!

Needs more 5.56 though.




Why?


5.56 ears up too much meat.

Normally I run 147gr 9mm, suppressed. This gives me a cheap (well, relatively speaking) and quiet platform that does not bother neighbors and has proven to be a hog killing round. When I do recover a hog, I don't find fragments of lead and brass in 12"-16" wound channels

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Originally Posted By Garryowen:
Fuck you and your fucking hog hunts...

"THat thar is duh norf star!" (as hillbilly points at the fucking MOON)... "come on hawg hunters dem dawgs got dem hawgs bayed up!"...

I was in fucking IRAQ and hit a mine, but one night "Hawg Hunting" with you left me emotionally scared for life. Sitting around with the Avilas in shell-shocked silence pulling the ticks off our nut sacks and whimpering... Best vacation ever...


That guide was a rental.

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Fuck you and your fucking hog hunts...

"THat thar is duh norf star!" (as hillbilly points at the fucking MOON)... "come on hawg hunters dem dawgs got dem hawgs bayed up!"...


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Originally Posted By PantherArms762:
Originally Posted By Garryowen:
Fuck you and your fucking hog hunts...

"THat thar is duh norf star!" (as hillbilly points at the fucking MOON)... "come on hawg hunters dem dawgs got dem hawgs bayed up!"...




Well, at one point, FAIRYOWEN was trying to climb up the side of a creek to trail the guides with the rest of us. He had slid back down three-five times. Goatboy said to us (because we were in tears laughing at the struggle), "Oh come on guys, at least let him have his pride..."

Admittedly, he said that through hiccuping laughter, but we did feel bad for a second. Kinda.

Ok, I'm lying, we didn't feel bad at all.

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Originally Posted By TheRedGoat:
http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv71/TheRedGoat/hogs.jpg

Former member FUGGIT and I went hunting this evening. We caught a group of ferals out in the open.

We were hunting just a few miles from Terrell, Texas, and spotted these hogs in a large pack (30-35 headcount) in the middle of a pasture. We took advantage of the terrain, and made a good stalk to get within 75yds.

My M16 is the lower one, 9mm, 5.5", triple X suppressor, using some 95 grain ammo given to me by tomac to test on hogs. FUGGIT's M16 is running a 10mm upper and I let him put his gun next to mine so that he could feel special too.

My first burst knocked one hog down. My second tripped a second hog. Bursts 3-5 were misses. The two hogs pictured were each hit with multiple rounds and were laying side-by-side when we walked up. One was spine hit with two visible entrance wounds. The larger one took three rounds (one lung, two hindquarter).

We checked for other hogs, bloodtrails, and did not recover any more from this group.

Before we left, we stopped to smoke a couple of cigars and spotted a lone hog in the middle of a 50 acre field.

I took my M16, with a PVS-22 on it (was now dusk) and crossed the field to get close enough to shoot.

I missed the first, second, and third burst, then I realized I was not leading the hog. By now, the hog was at a dead run, I lead him by six feet and got one round in to him. SNICKPOOMPSQUEAL!

At this point, I knew I must be low on ammo, and with the hog still running away (but slowing) I popped the magazine and saw one round in the mag (two total).

I lead the hog, who was now almost walking, and fired two rounds.

Clean misses.

The hog continued across the field and made his way in to the far treeline.

Five hogs hit, two recovered. And a happy landowner that wants us to come back again to kill some more.

TRG




Isn't it illegal to hunt in Texas with a fully automatic weapon? Texas parks and wildlife says so.
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30-35 hogs and you just got two?


I know right? He should be kicked out of TX for shooting like that. I keed I keed...
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Originally Posted By vengarr:
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Isn't it illegal to hunt in Texas with a fully automatic weapon? Texas parks and wildlife says so.

From the page you linked - any legal weapon (which the full auto falls under if you have the paperwork) is legal for nongame animals.

Nongame Animals (Non-Protected): Any lawful firearm, pellet gun, or other air gun is legal.

ETA - if you are hunting for food or trophy, you need a hunting license, but if the hogs are depredating, then you can kill them with impunity (e.g. no license required). And since feral hogs are either 1)heading to depredate, 2)coming back from depredating, or 3) actively depredating, it's pretty much open season

Sec. 42.002. RESIDENT LICENSE REQUIRED; EXEMPTION. (a) Except as provided by Subsections (b) and (c) of this section, no resident may hunt any bird or animal in this state without having acquired a hunting license.
(b) A resident possessing a valid resident trapper's license or fur-bearing animal propagation permit is not required to have a license issued under this section to take or possess the species covered by the license or permit.
(c) A resident landowner or the landowner's agent or lessee may take feral hogs causing depredation on the resident landowner's land without having acquired a hunting license.
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Do you eat those? Taste decent?
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Originally Posted By vengarr:
Originally Posted By TheRedGoat:
http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv71/TheRedGoat/hogs.jpg

Former member FUGGIT and I went hunting this evening. We caught a group of ferals out in the open.

We were hunting just a few miles from Terrell, Texas, and spotted these hogs in a large pack (30-35 headcount) in the middle of a pasture. We took advantage of the terrain, and made a good stalk to get within 75yds.

My M16 is the lower one, 9mm, 5.5", triple X suppressor, using some 95 grain ammo given to me by tomac to test on hogs. FUGGIT's M16 is running a 10mm upper and I let him put his gun next to mine so that he could feel special too.

My first burst knocked one hog down. My second tripped a second hog. Bursts 3-5 were misses. The two hogs pictured were each hit with multiple rounds and were laying side-by-side when we walked up. One was spine hit with two visible entrance wounds. The larger one took three rounds (one lung, two hindquarter).

We checked for other hogs, bloodtrails, and did not recover any more from this group.

Before we left, we stopped to smoke a couple of cigars and spotted a lone hog in the middle of a 50 acre field.

I took my M16, with a PVS-22 on it (was now dusk) and crossed the field to get close enough to shoot.

I missed the first, second, and third burst, then I realized I was not leading the hog. By now, the hog was at a dead run, I lead him by six feet and got one round in to him. SNICKPOOMPSQUEAL!

At this point, I knew I must be low on ammo, and with the hog still running away (but slowing) I popped the magazine and saw one round in the mag (two total).

I lead the hog, who was now almost walking, and fired two rounds.

Clean misses.

The hog continued across the field and made his way in to the far treeline.

Five hogs hit, two recovered. And a happy landowner that wants us to come back again to kill some more.

TRG




Isn't it illegal to hunt in Texas with a fully automatic weapon? Texas parks and wildlife says so.


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Recovered two rounds from the hog.

These were bullets sent to me by Tomac and I tossed the box a while back. As I recall, they are 95gr.









One round entered her left shoulder. It broke a rib and sprayed bone in to her left lung. it continued straight through her spine. Shattered the spine. It continued through the spine but stopped prior to entering her right 'armpit'. it did not enter/damage her right shoulder.

the second round (slightly taller center post exposed) was a shot fired from 10' to finish her off. It entered just under her left ear (she was laying on her right). It traveled about 8". It shattered her spine, skull and was lodged on the inside of her left jaw (had to remove her tongue to dig it out).

There were two rounds that hit her in the hindquarter. One was a surface wound, the other shattered her right hind knee. Because of the distance between the impacts of the rounds (hind vs spine) this means she was hit in previous burst. She would not have traveled with a busted spine.

So, she took the hip shot, stumbled from the broken knee. Recovered, and then was hit in the spine at the fence where she fell.

There are more pics, but graphic at my photobucket. They are in reverse chronology (h1 is the last pic, h17 is the initial pic). You can get an idea about the wound channel, path and damage of the 9mm on the hog.

http://s671.photobucket.com/albums/vv71/TheRedGoat/#!cpZZ1QQtppZZ20

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Do you eat those? Taste decent?


I did not eat this one.

They taste good. Without the hype it is less meat than you might expect to get from a hog this size. 80% is hide, guts, head, bones. A 100 lb hog (the ones pictured weighed 60-100lbs) will give you about 15-20lbs of meat.

Ribs are not what you would expect. Leaner than a commercial hog.

The meat is tougher than a commercial hog, and can be tough to chew. I prefer to grind it in to sausage.

Bacon (belly meat) is almost non-existent.

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Looks like a good time TRG.

Thanks for posting.
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Do you eat those? Taste decent?


I did not eat this one.

They taste good. Without the hype it is less meat than you might expect to get from a hog this size. 80% is hide, guts, head, bones. A 100 lb hog (the ones pictured weighed 60-100lbs) will give you about 15-20lbs of meat.

Ribs are not what you would expect. Leaner than a commercial hog.

The meat is tougher than a commercial hog, and can be tough to chew. I prefer to grind it in to sausage.

Bacon (belly meat) is almost non-existent.

TRG


Thanks. Apparently they're showing up in Michigan in numbers enough to be a problem. Wondering if it was worth the meat or just fun.

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M-16? burst?

You're using FA?
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That sure looks like fun.
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Originally Posted By 583:
That sure looks like fun.


Agreed.

I handload some lead 147 grain flat nose bullets that would probably do well for that purpose.
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Posted: 9/24/2011 11:36:46 AM
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Wondering if it was worth the meat or just fun.



I hunt for fun. In the past, I would have butchered this hog and made sausage.

i fed this one to my hens. They are turning bacon in to eggs as we speak.

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Posted: 9/24/2011 11:37:04 AM
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M-16? burst?

You're using FA?


M16. Trigger control.

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Posted: 9/24/2011 11:38:40 AM
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Originally Posted By vanilla_gorilla:

Originally Posted By 583:
That sure looks like fun.


Agreed.

I handload some lead 147 grain flat nose bullets that would probably do well for that purpose.


You would be right about that.

I use a commercial 147 TCMC (truncated cone) that is the bee's knees for hogs. It is also subsonic, and that REALLY screws with the hogs.

115gr, ball, sucks.

147gr HP does not expand. Ever.

These 95gr rounds expanded to .61-.68

Penetration was about 6-8", but both broke through the spine.

147 would have penetrated at least another 4-6" and broken her right side shoulder as well.

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Posted: 9/24/2011 11:42:17 AM
Originally Posted By 583:
That sure looks like fun.


Other than babysitting FUGGIT, it's as much fun as you think it is.

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Posted: 9/24/2011 11:50:20 AM
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Isn't it illegal to hunt in Texas with a fully automatic weapon? Texas parks and wildlife says so.



Yall just keep shippin the whiskey and let us worry about killin stuff.

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Posted: 9/24/2011 12:29:21 PM
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Apparently they're showing up in Michigan in numbers enough to be a problem. Wondering if it was worth the meat or just fun.


It's worth the meat, just temper your expectations. Ribs and bacon are too thin to bother with.

You don't have pecan nor mesquite up there, but you do have hickory. Smoke wild hog over hickory coals and you'll be all right. Go get 'em.


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Posted: 9/24/2011 12:47:15 PM
Maybe TRG wouldn't need follow up shots with 5.56.


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Posted: 9/24/2011 1:02:52 PM

Originally Posted By TheRedGoat:
Originally Posted By mongo001:
Wondering if it was worth the meat or just fun.



I hunt for fun. In the past, I would have butchered this hog and made sausage.

i fed this one to my hens. They are turning bacon in to eggs as we speak.

TRG

Dude, you may be on to something big here.
Always look out for number one.

Unless someone is slinging shit around. Then look out for number two.
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Posted: 9/24/2011 2:38:56 PM
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Originally Posted By rfm05:
Maybe TRG wouldn't need follow up shots with 5.56.




Like I said, 5.56 tears up too much meat. It is cheating.

9mm makes it sporting.

I know it is not *enough gun*. I keep expecting one to get pissed off and charge. So far, no takers.

I would use 115gr only, but they are not subsonic, and every pig runs away. I like to have juuuust enough to kill 'em, but not enough to make it unfair.

147s apparently break through spines better. Unless a pig is hit in the CNS it almost always runs away. the 9mm entry hole just doesn't leak blood, so they are hard to trail. I know they die from 115s, I just don't have the carcass to prove it.

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Posted: 9/24/2011 2:40:14 PM
Originally Posted By captainpooby:

Originally Posted By TheRedGoat:
Originally Posted By mongo001:
Wondering if it was worth the meat or just fun.



I hunt for fun. In the past, I would have butchered this hog and made sausage.

i fed this one to my hens. They are turning bacon in to eggs as we speak.

TRG

Dude, you may be on to something big here.


Well, the hens are chowing down. If they produce bacon flavored eggs, I'll let you know.

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