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Posted: 9/15/2011 11:35:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/15/2011 11:37:44 AM EDT
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http://www.wgrz.com/news/article/134917/37/Colgan-Air-Plane-Lands-At-Wrong-Airport
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Posted: 9/15/2011 11:37:49 AM EDT
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Didn't a Japanese pilot land on the wrong carrier once?
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Posted: 9/15/2011 11:38:19 AM EDT
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Quoted: Didn't a Japanese pilot land on the wrong carrier once? Landed on a US carrier.  |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 11:40:14 AM EDT
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Thats an expensive mistake.
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Posted: 9/15/2011 11:44:31 AM EDT
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How about the wrong country.....
Unfortunately, the Northwest captain on this flight is a very good friend of mine. http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/627550/ |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 11:44:46 AM EDT
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Didn't a Japanese pilot land on the wrong carrier once? Landed on a US carrier. He didn't notice the lack of a huge red dot? |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 11:46:08 AM EDT
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It doesn't happen often, but it can happen. Here's an excerpt out of the FAA 7110.65T which is our air traffic control SOP relating specifically to visual approach clearances. This example just happens to be my airport and one of our satellite airports 10 miles north of CLE. So for there to be a specific mention of it in the .65, it has to have happened a few times before.
Since the tower was closed, it's possible the Colgan crew was on the freq for Lake Charles but goofed and still landed where they did. OOPS! http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Order/ATC.pdf g. In those instances where airports are located in close proximity, also provide the location of the airport that may cause the confusion. EXAMPLE− "Cessna Five Six November, Cleveland Burke Lakefront Airport is at 12 o’clock, 5 miles. Cleveland Hopkins Airport is at 1 o’clock 12 miles. Report Cleveland Hopkins in sight.” REFERENCE− FAAO JO 7110.65, Para 7−4−4, Approaches to Multiple Runways |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 11:47:18 AM EDT
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Infrequent. There was also a case of an airliner landing at Ellsworth rather than Rapid City.
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Posted: 9/15/2011 11:49:01 AM EDT
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At least the union will save their jobs...
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Posted: 9/15/2011 11:51:10 AM EDT
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it would be Continental
i almost missed a connection last week because my CO flight didn't have blue juice (water for the shitter) |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 11:52:04 AM EDT
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Quoted: Look like one did in Texas It was in Louisiana, and it looks like the plane took off from Southland and continued to Lake Charles. |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 11:52:21 AM EDT
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At least the union will save their jobs... They are on leave I guess to see who was the cause of the cluster fuck. But you are correct they may not lose their jobs. |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 11:53:51 AM EDT
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Quoted: How about the wrong country..... Unfortunately, the Northwest captain on this flight is a very good friend of mine. http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/627550/ Yikes. Seems like a comedy of errors there. Still... a career ender? I dunno, given the chance I'd laugh my ass off at the pilot and tell him not to do it again 
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Posted: 9/15/2011 11:56:43 AM EDT
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Didn't a Japanese pilot land on the wrong carrier once? Landed on a US carrier. He didn't notice the lack of a huge red dot? At least he survived the war. |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 11:59:18 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/15/2011 12:00:32 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Didn't a Japanese pilot land on the wrong carrier once? Landed on a US carrier. Worst. Kamikaze. Pilot. EV-VAR! |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 12:03:50 PM EDT
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We had a good one back in the 70's, C-130 coming into Gray AAF, Fort Hood. He's in contact with the tower, clearance, breaks out of the clouds, sees the runway infront of him, and lands...............I understand it really got the attention of the tower at Hood AAF when that C-130 suddenly rolled by.
____________________________________________________________ ("C-130 rolling down the strip.....,"-(w,stte), running jody) |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 12:09:28 PM EDT
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Happened here. Charter jet carrying the college team. Landed on a runway that was not rated for the airplane's weight and created ruts.
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Posted: 9/15/2011 12:09:36 PM EDT
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Infrequent. There was also a case of an airliner landing at Ellsworth rather than Rapid City. That is easy to do. |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 12:10:23 PM EDT
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At least the union will save their jobs... If the FO is on probation, he's toast. |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 12:14:47 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Didn't a Japanese pilot land on the wrong carrier once? Landed on a US carrier. He didn't notice the lack of a huge red dot? He was a famous Kamikaze pilot.  |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 12:17:41 PM EDT
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Back when I was taking flying lessons, another student landed at LRAFB, I think they meant to land a KLIT which is a few miles down the road, but is in the "path" from the flight schools home field.
I guess the C-130's must have clued him in......... |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 12:23:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/15/2011 12:30:13 PM EDT
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It doesn't happen often, but it can happen. Here's an excerpt out of the FAA 7110.65T which is our air traffic control SOP relating specifically to visual approach clearances. This example just happens to be my airport and one of our satellite airports 10 miles north of CLE. So for there to be a specific mention of it in the .65, it has to have happened a few times before. Since the tower was closed, it's possible the Colgan crew was on the freq for Lake Charles but goofed and still landed where they did. OOPS! http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Order/ATC.pdf g. In those instances where airports are located in close proximity, also provide the location of the airport that may cause the confusion. EXAMPLE− "Cessna Five Six November, Cleveland Burke Lakefront Airport is at 12 o’clock, 5 miles. Cleveland Hopkins Airport is at 1 o’clock 12 miles. Report Cleveland Hopkins in sight.” REFERENCE− FAAO JO 7110.65, Para 7−4−4, Approaches to Multiple Runways You'd have to be an ass clown to confuse Burke for Hopkins. |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 2:34:59 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Didn't a Japanese pilot land on the wrong carrier once? Landed on a US carrier. He didn't notice the lack of a huge red dot? He was a famous Kamikaze pilot. http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Eyesofsilver/620Missions.jpg  |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 2:41:33 PM EDT
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Here is the thing, many of the flights are coming in on VFR, visual flight rules. Basically the plans for VFR is see the runway and hit it, softly. Its VERY easy to make a mistake. As a private pilot student I have been damn near over an airport and almost missed it. As a professional, never. |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 3:01:23 PM EDT
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There was an FB-111 that overflew it's huge N.Y. S.A.C. base in bad weather, and landed at a nearby tiny civilian airport by mistake.
The field was too short to attempt a takeoff, so the USAF had to disassemble the bomber and truck it back to base. 30 years later, I'll bet that crew is still getting hounded for it. |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 3:09:08 PM EDT
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Colgan sucks ass! If I am booking Continental online I always check the flight numbers to make sure its not a Colgan flight.
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Posted: 9/15/2011 3:16:15 PM EDT
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Didn't a Japanese pilot land on the wrong carrier once? Landed on a US carrier. Yep, and from the story I read, the LSO realized the guy was responding backwards to his signals, figured out what was up, and notified the flight deck crew. Fog of war and all that, dontcha know. |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 3:34:14 PM EDT
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Didn't a Japanese pilot land on the wrong carrier once? Landed on a US carrier. He didn't notice the lack of a huge red dot? At least he survived the war. You have to remember that except for the first third or so of the war many of the Jap pilots were very inexperienced and haveing folks shooting at your plane tends to make you fly in other than a nice straight compass course. Fighters had a restricted flying range and it was not unusual for a returning pilot to be somewhat lost,low on fuel and franticly searching for his ship under cloud cover and darkness. Wouldn't be out of the question for an inexperienced lost pilot low on fuel to spot a ship thru cloud cover and quickly drop down and try to land |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 3:42:05 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Didn't a Japanese pilot land on the wrong carrier once? Landed on a US carrier. He didn't notice the lack of a huge red dot? He was a famous Kamikaze pilot. http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Eyesofsilver/620Missions.jpg |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 3:57:16 PM EDT
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Here is a compilation of errant landings.
http://www.thirdamendment.com/wrongway.html I found that link while I was trying to find a picture of the 707 that landed at the Ohio State University airport. If you go to the airport itself there is a picture of the 707 sitting on the tarmack and the people deplaning. I couldn't find a picture on the web but I didn't look that hard. It's a pretty big fucking mistake to land at OSU instead of CMH |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 4:11:06 PM EDT
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I think John Denver and a Kennedy landed in the ocean.
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Posted: 9/15/2011 7:13:42 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: It doesn't happen often, but it can happen. Here's an excerpt out of the FAA 7110.65T which is our air traffic control SOP relating specifically to visual approach clearances. This example just happens to be my airport and one of our satellite airports 10 miles north of CLE. So for there to be a specific mention of it in the .65, it has to have happened a few times before. Since the tower was closed, it's possible the Colgan crew was on the freq for Lake Charles but goofed and still landed where they did. OOPS! http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Order/ATC.pdf g. In those instances where airports are located in close proximity, also provide the location of the airport that may cause the confusion. EXAMPLE− "Cessna Five Six November, Cleveland Burke Lakefront Airport is at 12 o’clock, 5 miles. Cleveland Hopkins Airport is at 1 o’clock 12 miles. Report Cleveland Hopkins in sight.” REFERENCE− FAAO JO 7110.65, Para 7−4−4, Approaches to Multiple Runways You'd have to be an ass clown to confuse Burke for Hopkins. Hahaha, I would agree but in the 3 1/2 years I've been here, I've seen it nearly happen once already. |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 7:23:58 PM EDT
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There is an ILS to 15 and a back course to 33.
I don't think I have much sympathy for this crew. |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 7:24:47 PM EDT
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It doesn't happen often, but it can happen. Here's an excerpt out of the FAA 7110.65T which is our air traffic control SOP relating specifically to visual approach clearances. This example just happens to be my airport and one of our satellite airports 10 miles north of CLE. So for there to be a specific mention of it in the .65, it has to have happened a few times before. Since the tower was closed, it's possible the Colgan crew was on the freq for Lake Charles but goofed and still landed where they did. OOPS! http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Order/ATC.pdf g. In those instances where airports are located in close proximity, also provide the location of the airport that may cause the confusion. EXAMPLE− "Cessna Five Six November, Cleveland Burke Lakefront Airport is at 12 o’clock, 5 miles. Cleveland Hopkins Airport is at 1 o’clock 12 miles. Report Cleveland Hopkins in sight.” REFERENCE− FAAO JO 7110.65, Para 7−4−4, Approaches to Multiple Runways This. It happens. One of my instructors talked about guys confusing Austin and bergstrom AFB. We've also had to remind a couple guys their airport is at two o clock and three miles and they appear to be a little high for an approach. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 7:39:36 PM EDT
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Didn't a Japanese pilot land on the wrong carrier once? Landed on a US carrier. Yep, and from the story I read, the LSO realized the guy was responding backwards to his signals, figured out what was up, and notified the flight deck crew. Fog of war and all that, dontcha know. You guys are serious? Any links to that story? I've never heard that before. I do recall an A7 landing on the wrong carrier during Desert Storm. The flight deck guys plastered the plane with stickers from their carrier and sent him on his way. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 7:40:04 PM EDT
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Didn't see it on the above link, and am telling a 2nd hand story: A supervisor I used to work with at Delta was working in Alexandria, LA (ESF) (I believe this was in the late '60s/early '70s.) B727 (If I remember correctly) is late one night and lands at England AFB (currently AEX) in error. The flight crew told the passengers that there was some construction between the runway they landed on and the terminal. They would have to take off and land on another runway to be able to get to the terminal. They then took off from England and landed at ESF. The way I heard it, they would have gotten away with it, but a passenger wrote a letter stating that they didn't appreciate the extra landing. Busted!
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Posted: 9/15/2011 7:43:55 PM EDT
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queue the Foster Brooks and Dean Martin "drunk pilot" video
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Posted: 9/15/2011 7:46:36 PM EDT
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A commercial plane trying to land at the local airport here got screwed up and landed at Ellsworth AFB a few years ago.
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Posted: 9/15/2011 7:50:37 PM EDT
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I'll bet there have been more than a few in El Paso. I can remember one incident in Kansas City.
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Posted: 9/15/2011 7:52:16 PM EDT
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Didn't a Japanese pilot land on the wrong carrier once? Landed on a US carrier. Yep, and from the story I read, the LSO realized the guy was responding backwards to his signals, figured out what was up, and notified the flight deck crew. Fog of war and all that, dontcha know. You guys are serious? Any links to that story? I've never heard that before. I do recall an A7 landing on the wrong carrier during Desert Storm. The flight deck guys plastered the plane with stickers from their carrier and sent him on his way. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Was this it? Battle of Coral Sea May 7, 1942 |
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Posted: 9/15/2011 8:32:46 PM EDT
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Quoted: Didn't a Japanese pilot land on the wrong carrier once? I hope that's not a terribly bad WWII joke! |
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