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Posted: 9/10/2011 11:26:52 PM
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Lucas totally ruined this scene. He should have stayed silent.



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Posted: 9/10/2011 11:28:47 PM
I agree he keeps fucking with the original trilogy for some reason.
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Posted: 9/10/2011 11:29:34 PM
Lucas just keeps screwing up the classics.
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Posted: 9/10/2011 11:30:20 PM
Is this real?

I'm being dead serious.
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Posted: 9/10/2011 11:30:24 PM
Originally Posted By USMC88-93:
I agree he keeps fucking with the original trilogy for some reason.


Because he's trying to see how far he can push us nerds until we snap.
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Posted: 9/10/2011 11:31:05 PM
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Originally Posted By 556A2:
Is this real?

I'm being dead serious.
Yes the new Blue-Ray release has more changes as I understand it.
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Posted: 9/10/2011 11:32:28 PM
Screw that noise. I just got my hands on the laserdisc rips. Good to go.
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Posted: 9/10/2011 11:33:19 PM
I've only seen the revised version once or twice, and I was only half paying attention. I don't think I noticed that before. I agree, it was a lot better without it.

What really blew me away was replacing Anakin's ghost with the young douche. Someone made some remark about that once, and I honestly thought they were joking. When I saw it on TV, I could hardly believe it.
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Posted: 9/10/2011 11:34:24 PM

Originally Posted By USMC88-93:
I agree he keeps fucking with the original trilogy for some reason.

There is this HD fan edit and restoration of the film I came across a week or two ago. It is in HD and looks fantastic. The fans who worked on it got ahold of a bunch of different versions of the film in various formats from film to laserdiscs and what not and cleaned it up and restored it to look like it originally did in theaters. What I found most interesting about it was that it was much more violent and interesting than the modern edits and changes lucas made to it.
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Posted: 9/10/2011 11:34:52 PM
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Posted: 9/10/2011 11:37:17 PM
ROTJ will get CGI Ewok eyes, which is probably an homage to the CGI Ewoks in Raiders of the Lost Ark Special Edition...
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Posted: 9/10/2011 11:37:24 PM
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It was a fucked up ending to begin with.

So Luke can use the force to defy gravity and levitate, and Vader can also levitate, but the Emperor, the most powerful master of the dark side of the force, is nothing more than sack of laundry thrown down a chute.

Lame.


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That doesn't bother me too much - it actually works with the scene.

Greedo getting a shot off, though... that is unforgivable.
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Posted: 9/10/2011 11:40:05 PM
At the risk of inviting a shitstorm, I thought that entire movie was a cluster fuck. Any and all versions. Hearing Chewbacca do a Tarzan yell sealed the deal for me. I was ready to walk out of the theater by that time. And I waited in line for HOURS to get in. I was in the tenth grade, so I was psyched to get to see the final episode of the best trilogy ever put on film (and I do still love New Hope and Empire).

What a fucking disappointment. I have been pissed at Lucas ever since.

And don't even get me started about motherfucking Jar-Jar.
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Posted: 9/10/2011 11:42:57 PM
Originally Posted By HelloMcFly:
At the risk of inviting a shitstorm, I thought that entire movie was a cluster fuck. Any and all versions. Hearing Chewbacca do a Tarzan yell sealed the deal for me. I was ready to walk out of the theater by that time. And I waited in line for HOURS to get in. I was in the tenth grade, so I was psyched to get to see the final episode of the best trilogy ever put on film (and I do still love New Hope and Empire).

What a fucking disappointment. I have been pissed at Lucas ever since.

And don't even get me started about motherfucking Jar-Jar.


The ewoks were ridiculous - they should have been wookies.
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Posted: 9/10/2011 11:44:17 PM
Yep. Lucas neutered Vader.
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Posted: 9/10/2011 11:44:58 PM
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Originally Posted By Bohr_Adam:
Originally Posted By HelloMcFly:
At the risk of inviting a shitstorm, I thought that entire movie was a cluster fuck. Any and all versions. Hearing Chewbacca do a Tarzan yell sealed the deal for me. I was ready to walk out of the theater by that time. And I waited in line for HOURS to get in. I was in the tenth grade, so I was psyched to get to see the final episode of the best trilogy ever put on film (and I do still love New Hope and Empire).

What a fucking disappointment. I have been pissed at Lucas ever since.

And don't even get me started about motherfucking Jar-Jar.


The ewoks were ridiculous - they should have been wookies.


If he is gonna CGI everything...then why not just CGI in Wookies?
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Posted: 9/10/2011 11:44:58 PM
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

It was a fucked up ending to begin with.

So Luke can use the force to defy gravity and levitate, and Vader can also levitate, but the Emperor, the most powerful master of the dark side of the force, is nothing more than sack of laundry thrown down a chute.

Lame.


I don't think we ever saw a Jedi levitate.
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Originally Posted By HelloMcFly:
At the risk of inviting a shitstorm, I thought that entire movie was a cluster fuck. Any and all versions. Hearing Chewbacca do a Tarzan yell sealed the deal for me. I was ready to walk out of the theater by that time. And I waited in line for HOURS to get in. I was in the tenth grade, so I was psyched to get to see the final episode of the best trilogy ever put on film (and I do still love New Hope and Empire).

What a fucking disappointment. I have been pissed at Lucas ever since.

And don't even get me started about motherfucking Jar-Jar.


I've always liked ROTJ. I think it's my favorite Star Wars movie, at least without all the edits.

The Luke vs Vader fight at the end is my favorite light saber battle of all the movies, seconded by Obi Wan and Qui-Gon vs Darth Maul.
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Posted: 9/10/2011 11:49:34 PM
Originally Posted By PA452:
Originally Posted By HelloMcFly:
At the risk of inviting a shitstorm, I thought that entire movie was a cluster fuck. Any and all versions. Hearing Chewbacca do a Tarzan yell sealed the deal for me. I was ready to walk out of the theater by that time. And I waited in line for HOURS to get in. I was in the tenth grade, so I was psyched to get to see the final episode of the best trilogy ever put on film (and I do still love New Hope and Empire).

What a fucking disappointment. I have been pissed at Lucas ever since.

And don't even get me started about motherfucking Jar-Jar.


I've always liked ROTJ. I think it's my favorite Star Wars movie, at least without all the edits.

The Luke vs Vader fight at the end is my favorite light saber battle of all the movies, seconded by Obi Wan and Qui-Gon vs Darth Maul.


I'm going to assume that you are younger than I am. Many I have encountered that saw the film at a younger age consider it their favorite as well. Dunno why, but I have observed this in others. You under 40?
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Posted: 9/10/2011 11:49:34 PM
Originally Posted By Tekka:

Originally Posted By USMC88-93:
I agree he keeps fucking with the original trilogy for some reason.

There is this HD fan edit and restoration of the film I came across a week or two ago. It is in HD and looks fantastic. The fans who worked on it got ahold of a bunch of different versions of the film in various formats from film to laserdiscs and what not and cleaned it up and restored it to look like it originally did in theaters. What I found most interesting about it was that it was much more violent and interesting than the modern edits and changes lucas made to it.


More information is needed. Was there an official page?
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Posted: 9/10/2011 11:52:14 PM
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Originally Posted By HelloMcFly:
Originally Posted By PA452:
Originally Posted By HelloMcFly:
At the risk of inviting a shitstorm, I thought that entire movie was a cluster fuck. Any and all versions. Hearing Chewbacca do a Tarzan yell sealed the deal for me. I was ready to walk out of the theater by that time. And I waited in line for HOURS to get in. I was in the tenth grade, so I was psyched to get to see the final episode of the best trilogy ever put on film (and I do still love New Hope and Empire).

What a fucking disappointment. I have been pissed at Lucas ever since.

And don't even get me started about motherfucking Jar-Jar.


I've always liked ROTJ. I think it's my favorite Star Wars movie, at least without all the edits.

The Luke vs Vader fight at the end is my favorite light saber battle of all the movies, seconded by Obi Wan and Qui-Gon vs Darth Maul.


I'm going to assume that you are younger than I am. Many I have encountered that saw the film at a younger age consider it their favorite as well. Dunno why, but I have observed this in others. You under 40?


I sure am, old man.

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Posted: 9/10/2011 11:54:22 PM
Originally Posted By PA452:
Originally Posted By HelloMcFly:
Originally Posted By PA452:
Originally Posted By HelloMcFly:
At the risk of inviting a shitstorm, I thought that entire movie was a cluster fuck. Any and all versions. Hearing Chewbacca do a Tarzan yell sealed the deal for me. I was ready to walk out of the theater by that time. And I waited in line for HOURS to get in. I was in the tenth grade, so I was psyched to get to see the final episode of the best trilogy ever put on film (and I do still love New Hope and Empire).

What a fucking disappointment. I have been pissed at Lucas ever since.

And don't even get me started about motherfucking Jar-Jar.


I've always liked ROTJ. I think it's my favorite Star Wars movie, at least without all the edits.

The Luke vs Vader fight at the end is my favorite light saber battle of all the movies, seconded by Obi Wan and Qui-Gon vs Darth Maul.


I'm going to assume that you are younger than I am. Many I have encountered that saw the film at a younger age consider it their favorite as well. Dunno why, but I have observed this in others. You under 40?


I sure am, old man.



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Posted: 9/10/2011 11:58:24 PM
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Originally Posted By PA452:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

It was a fucked up ending to begin with.

So Luke can use the force to defy gravity and levitate, and Vader can also levitate, but the Emperor, the most powerful master of the dark side of the force, is nothing more than sack of laundry thrown down a chute.

Lame.


I don't think we ever saw a Jedi levitate.

They started in Empire Strikes Back.


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Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

Originally Posted By PA452:
Originally Posted By The_Macallan:

It was a fucked up ending to begin with.

So Luke can use the force to defy gravity and levitate, and Vader can also levitate, but the Emperor, the most powerful master of the dark side of the force, is nothing more than sack of laundry thrown down a chute.

Lame.


I don't think we ever saw a Jedi levitate.

They started in Empire Strikes Back.




When?

I think the most I remember was Luke standing on one hand. They can levitate other objects, but they've never been able to 100% levitate themselves.

That would be ridiculous.


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Originally Posted By Tekka:

Originally Posted By USMC88-93:
I agree he keeps fucking with the original trilogy for some reason.

There is this HD fan edit and restoration of the film I came across a week or two ago. It is in HD and looks fantastic. The fans who worked on it got ahold of a bunch of different versions of the film in various formats from film to laserdiscs and what not and cleaned it up and restored it to look like it originally did in theaters. What I found most interesting about it was that it was much more violent and interesting than the modern edits and changes lucas made to it.


More information is needed. Was there an official page?

I lost the link and am trying to find it again.

AHA, I found it.



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The nooooooo scene, CG Yoda, Ewoks blinking..........not how I remember them. it was a sign of the technology at the time.

Maybe ET should be done with an entirely CG ET?
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That doesn't bother me too much - it actually works with the scene.

Greedo getting a shot off, though... that is unforgivable.


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Originally Posted By Timco:
The nooooooo scene, CG Yoda, Ewoks blinking..........not how I remember them. it was a sign of the technology at the time.

Maybe ET should be done with an entirely CG ET?


I'm sure it won't be long.

With all the remakes they've been doing lately, I'm surprised it hasn't been done yet.
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Is this real?

I'm being dead serious.

I wish it wasn't.
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Ohhhh man, that makes me really sick. Physically ill.

Why George? Why are you trying to anal rape your greatest creations?????????????

Man, somebody has got to stop him. Is he surrounded by a bunch of "yes" men or what? Is he like Jackson crazy on his Dreamland Ranch out of touch with reality now? I seriously think we need to organize a protest march on his house...seriously.


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is there an unmolested version out on blueray?
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Screw that noise. I just got my hands on the laserdisc rips. Good to go.


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Somebody brought this up in the past. In the scene in Star Wars when Luke and Uncle Owen were buying the droids off of the Jawa, was there ever a version where an antenna of sort came out of R2D2 that zapped the red unit?

I can almost swear that I recall seeing that on film.
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is there an unmolested version out on blueray?


Nope.

I believe I read somewhere that Lucas basically wants the old versions to perish completely.
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Wow, Tekka, thanks for the info. Now I'm off to gather the goods.
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is there an unmolested version out on blueray?


Nope.

I believe I read somewhere that Lucas basically wants the old versions to perish completely.

Ironic because we all want Lucas to perish completely.


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Lucas won't rest until he makes the original trilogy suck as hard as the prequels...

"Now in 3D with Jar Jar Binks digitally inserted into every scene!"
I mean if this goes tits up...
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I would really like to spit in George Lucas's eye.

I fucking understand his story line and the universe he created far better than he EVER did.
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Lucas simply needs to stay away from his own films at this point.
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Originally Posted By GI-45:

Originally Posted By armygunsmith:
Screw that noise. I just got my hands on the laserdisc rips. Good to go.



Check out Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Editions. These fans went so far as to get a hold of stuff like 70mm film and scan it! We're talking source material which is IMAX quality. I have never heard of any fans of a film going to such insane lengths to improve their favorite movies.










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Wow, Tekka, thanks for the info. Now I'm off to gather the goods.


Same here. Thanks, Tekka!


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Why is Lukes saber green in that scene what the fuck?! That's fucking blasphemy! Fuck Lucas. He needs to choke on a 1000 Dick's.
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Well, my crappy laserdisc rips suddenly don't look so good. But, Harmy certainly has gone the distance to bring the originals back. There will be much geek rejoicing.
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Well, my crappy laserdisc rips suddenly don't look so good. But, Harmy certainly has gone the distance to bring the originals back. There will be much geek rejoicing.




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Originally Posted By armygunsmith:
Screw that noise. I just got my hands on the laserdisc rips. Good to go.



Check out Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Editions. These fans went so far as to get a hold of stuff like 70mm film and scan it! We're talking source material which is IMAX quality. I have never heard of any fans of a film going to such insane lengths to improve their favorite movies.





Whoa dude.... you just blew my mind.

THANK YOU.
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Originally Posted By GI-45:

Originally Posted By armygunsmith:
Screw that noise. I just got my hands on the laserdisc rips. Good to go.



Check out Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Editions. These fans went so far as to get a hold of stuff like 70mm film and scan it! We're talking source material which is IMAX quality. I have never heard of any fans of a film going to such insane lengths to improve their favorite movies.





Whoa dude.... you just blew my mind.

THANK YOU.


If they ever are able to release anything I'll fucking buy it!

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Why is Lukes saber green in that scene what the fuck?! That's fucking blasphemy! Fuck Lucas. He needs to choke on a 1000 Dick's.


This is just plain idiotic. The lightsaber that Obi-Wan gives Luke is Anikin's old lightsaber. Which is BLUE. Luke builds the green lightsaber after he loses Anakin's when his hand gets chopped off by Vader.

I could understand Lucas going back to intensify the blue, because the lightsabers in the first movie are so washed out they look almost white. But green just completely ignores the movie's own history.

God I fucking hate Lucas.
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Wyatt Earp's No in Tombstone in the river fight scene was waaaaaaaaaaaaay better.
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Posted: 9/11/2011 1:12:44 AM

Originally Posted By HelloMcFly:
At the risk of inviting a shitstorm, I thought that entire movie was a cluster fuck. Any and all versions. Hearing Chewbacca do a Tarzan yell sealed the deal for me. I was ready to walk out of the theater by that time. And I waited in line for HOURS to get in. I was in the tenth grade, so I was psyched to get to see the final episode of the best trilogy ever put on film (and I do still love New Hope and Empire).

What a fucking disappointment. I have been pissed at Lucas ever since.

And don't even get me started about motherfucking Jar-Jar.

"Revenge of the Teddy Bears".
I knew daredevils and I ain't got nothin' against them, ...it's just they're all dead.

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