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Posted: 8/30/2011 9:52:28 PM
Maybe Magpul will take it back over since it did not become the super uber weapon of the speshul forses like they expected.
They have been popping out that Masada airsoft gun far a while now. All they have to do is man the fuck up and put some real components in those fag boy pee shooters they already create. They seem to be able to keep up with that demand, a real rifle costing 3 or 4 times as much should not be too much harder an undertaking even for a "small" company. JMO |
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Posted: 8/30/2011 9:53:26 PM
I heard that LaRue is involved with this project,and Costa is going to be the spokesperson as well.
It will be a fanboy orgy of epic proportions ! |
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Posted: 8/30/2011 9:53:57 PM
I'm always disappointed if there's a model of a firearm that an AMERICAN company won't sell to AMERICAN citizens. Who knows in this case, but just sayin.
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Posted: 8/31/2011 1:48:26 AM
[Last Edit: 8/31/2011 1:55:07 AM by Razoreye]
Let's see, they fucked up the original design and charge triple... Yeah, it's no wonder my interest waned in a millisecond. Scratch that, in the years it took since they kept pushing back that abortion "two weeks."
So how are all those new uppers working out for the suckers that bought into it?  |
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retgarr
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Posted: 8/31/2011 2:01:53 AM
All the Remington ACR pages seem to be working for me.
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Posted: 8/31/2011 2:09:14 AM
Who will Magpul try to push this "new" design through now, Taurus?
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Posted: 8/31/2011 2:15:37 AM
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Posted: 8/31/2011 2:22:22 AM
The Massoud project coming to fruition? I don't think another battle rifle or mod-able DMR is going to re-ignite the industry.
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Posted: 8/31/2011 2:37:37 AM
Originally Posted By RunsBellows:
Originally Posted By lowbeyond:
omg not this shit again. +1. the shooting world has been dicked over so much by the masada/acr debacle that they have lost a TON of interest. i'll consider it again when i finally see 'em in person, on the dealer shelf with a affordable price tag. until then it's all just white noise. -rb Agreed. I wanted an ACR, but the delays then the pricing really put me off. I'll wait until they get down to $800. |
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Posted: 8/31/2011 3:19:37 AM
I'll buy an ACR when they start selling for under $600
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Posted: 8/31/2011 3:22:26 AM
Originally Posted By REDMASTA:
I'll buy an ACR when they start selling for under $600 I'd pay $1000 if they made it in .308 |
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Posted: 8/31/2011 3:36:03 AM
Ughhh, the butthurt. I feel it coming on
All I want is a light barrel and a better safety selector. what a PITA |
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Posted: 8/31/2011 3:52:58 AM
Originally Posted By tyman:
Originally Posted By LIONHART:
Recently there's been rumors floating around about Busmaster's ACR, and a revised model that may be coming out. IMO, and after owning one, there's no doubt that the ACR needs tweaking. I don't think there's any question that a revised model will eventually show up. Whether or not this will happen next month or in October remains unseen. With that said, I was given this information earlier surronding the rumor. Unconfirmed chatter supposedly from a reliable source within the industry is hinting that there is a vastly improved ACR called version 2 is coming out, possibly not made by Bushmaster and possibly only available to .Mil / Leo etc. So either Bushmaster is discontinuing the ACR for the public as we know it and Remington or someone else is turning out a revised ACR that will be unobtainable or Bushmaster will continue the current ACR production which will look like crap compared to the one we can't have. Then there is talk about major issues with the ACR concerning the selector switch / possible recall. Finally there is some talk about Magpul or someone else finally producing and releasing the Massada. Who knows.Rumor is that something big will go public concerning the ACR around Sept / Oct.
UPDATE: A member here has stated that he saw an ad on TOS for the Magpul Masada. Interestingly enough, Bushmaster's site is down. The ad has since disappeared. It would appear that something is happening. If the bold is true, then why should we care?  because caring is sharing. if we care enough, .Mil / Leo may share with us.  |
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Posted: 8/31/2011 4:29:04 AM
This probably means the Remington ACR with aluminum lower and railed forend will be released for civilian sales by Bushmaster.
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Posted: 9/1/2011 8:00:37 PM
I call BS on the whole rumor.
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Curdmugeon45
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Posted: 9/1/2011 8:17:30 PM
Let me get this straight:
The Masada was supposed to come out at a price point to compete with expensive AR rifles, right? Yet it came out at the same price point as a 16S, but nowhere near close to the quality, yes? So, even if they were to offer it at, say, $900 - $1100, what would be my main motivation to pick up Bushmaster's little bastard over a Sig 516, Ruger SR556, or a Sig 556 SWAT Patrol, all much better rifles for the price, IMHO. /shrugs Non-story in my book. Wake me up when they release the honest to god Masada at the price point they originally mentioned. |
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HermanSnerd
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Posted: 9/1/2011 8:20:07 PM
I am completely over the whole Masada / ACR hype.
If the price drops down to $900 bucks and they work out all of the bugs, I still don't want one. Magpul/Bushmaster/Remington/Cerberus all shit the bed with this one. |
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Posted: 9/1/2011 8:38:54 PM
Originally Posted By HermanSnerd:
I am completely over the whole Masada / ACR hype. If the price drops down to $900 bucks and they work out all of the bugs, I still don't want one. Magpul/Bushmaster/Remington/Cerberus all shit the bed with this one. This. I bought the SCAR 16S when I could get one for $2,400 and haven't looked back. I have nothing but praise for FNH - they have delivered. |
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Posted: 9/1/2011 8:39:01 PM
[Last Edit: 9/1/2011 9:07:30 PM by desertmoon]
Nothing but an AR-180 with window dressing. Ten times as much crap and one third as cool.
Damn thing reminds me of Carol Burnett's "dress" in the "Went with the Wind" skit. |
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Posted: 9/1/2011 8:56:27 PM
Has magpul ever came out with anything that hasnt had to have been tweaked and labeled "gen 2, 3, etc"
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Posted: 9/1/2011 9:01:44 PM
The nonsense surrounding the ACR was an enormous letdown and a gigantic clusterfuck.
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Posted: 9/1/2011 9:06:24 PM
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Bushy site seems to be up for me. Ooo an Atacs model now. Probably been there for months. Shows how much attention I pay to the ACR.
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Posted: 9/1/2011 9:09:01 PM
Originally Posted By oldgunner:
Has magpul ever came out with anything that hasnt had to have been tweaked and labeled "gen 2, 3, etc" Has any manufacturer ?? |
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Posted: 9/1/2011 9:55:09 PM
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At 1200 dollars these things would fly off the shelves the way they sit now. 1,000 or sub 1,000 you would not be able to keep them in stock. The whole letdown from the original release and the slap in the nuts when the price was announced was quite the F-up on bushmasters part but at a price point of 1,000 I would buy one.
Edit: Id still rather have a well equipped scar or high end AR than any ACR. |
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Posted: 9/1/2011 10:24:03 PM
Originally Posted By SPECTRE:
Originally Posted By oldgunner:
Has magpul ever came out with anything that hasnt had to have been tweaked and labeled "gen 2, 3, etc" Has any manufacturer ?? Im certain |
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Posted: 9/1/2011 10:27:12 PM
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AR15 > whatever the fuck Magpul shits out. Well said. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/1/2011 10:32:19 PM
WIll magpul actually release anything this year?
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Posted: 9/1/2011 11:01:24 PM
Originally Posted By Orbital-Burn:
WIll magpul actually release anything this year? Rail mounted twang-licker for the ladies. |
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Posted: 9/1/2011 11:34:36 PM
Originally Posted By Socomike:
At 1200 dollars these things would fly off the shelves the way they sit now. 1,000 or sub 1,000 you would not be able to keep them in stock. The whole letdown from the original release and the slap in the nuts when the price was announced was quite the F-up on bushmasters part but at a price point of 1,000 I would buy one. Edit: Id still rather have a well equipped scar or high end AR than any ACR. I can honestly say I don't give a shit anymore. Back when it was still in the Masada stage I had one on reserve with Grant. Once shrubmaster took over and buttfucked it I started losing interest. The "two more weeks" game and then the shot to the nuts with the price made me say "uhhh hell no." Now if the original came out I still don't want it. I can trick out an AR for that price. The whole concept of changing uppers was cool until it was realized that they'll never make those uppers so it's fucking pointless. |
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Posted: 9/1/2011 11:38:27 PM
Originally Posted By Curdmugeon45:
Let me get this straight: The Masada was supposed to come out at a price point to compete with expensive AR rifles, right? Yet it came out at the same price point as a 16S, but nowhere near close to the quality, yes? So, even if they were to offer it at, say, $900 - $1100, what would be my main motivation to pick up Bushmaster's little bastard over a Sig 516, Ruger SR556, or a Sig 556 SWAT Patrol, all much better rifles for the price, IMHO. /shrugs Non-story in my book. Wake me up when they release the honest to god Masada at the price point they originally mentioned. I hate to break the news to you, but the 516, SR556, and 556 SWAT are all essentially hobby-grade plinkers. None of them are designed or built to last through serious, heavy long-term use. They're fine for people who want to go plinking on the range from time to time, but I wouldn't touch any of them for use overseas, by SWAT, or even frequent 3-gun competition. |
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Posted: 9/1/2011 11:59:46 PM
lets forget for a second that it is overpriced that shrubmaster has been having QC issues or that it has a M4 barrel profile
 , the whole fucking thing is pointless without a key design aspect.......
BEING FUCKING MODULAR, you know like having one rifle and being able to swap a few parts and have a different rifle. I was sooo ready for that rifle to come out, not because I am holster sniffer magpul fanboy, but because for once someone put some real pure Industrial Design into a weapon and it showed, It had promise, and then Shurbmaster raped my dreams And so to echo my feelings on the whole matter i give you The Debil himself |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 12:04:52 AM
Originally Posted By littlebeavis:
Whatever they poop out, I guarantee it will be overpriced. Magpul isn't dumb, they know that because of the ACR's history and market reality there is a lot of downward pressure on pricing for anything they sell in the .223 rifle market. |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 12:06:14 AM
Originally Posted By Top_Secret:
I would rather have a PDR than a new ACR. Big +1 to that action.... |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 12:12:31 AM
Originally Posted By Socomike:
At 1200 dollars these things would fly off the shelves the way they sit now. 1,000 or sub 1,000 you would not be able to keep them in stock. The whole letdown from the original release and the slap in the nuts when the price was announced was quite the F-up on bushmasters part but at a price point of 1,000 I would buy one. Edit: Id still rather have a well equipped scar or high end AR than any ACR. A lot of people don't understand why ACR's didn't cost $1200...... If Bushmaster had sold them for that much it would have completely fucked the pricing structure on their existing line of AR's. There were plenty of Bushmaster AR's when the ACR was introduced that cost more than $1200.... What was Bushmaster supposed to do, cut their own dick off? That said, the pricing they did come out with was completely unreasonable. |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 12:13:56 AM
Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
Originally Posted By Socomike:
At 1200 dollars these things would fly off the shelves the way they sit now. 1,000 or sub 1,000 you would not be able to keep them in stock. The whole letdown from the original release and the slap in the nuts when the price was announced was quite the F-up on bushmasters part but at a price point of 1,000 I would buy one. Edit: Id still rather have a well equipped scar or high end AR than any ACR. A lot of people don't understand why ACR's didn't cost $1200...... If Bushmaster had sold them for that much it would have completely fucked the pricing structure on their existing line of AR's. There were plenty of Bushmaster AR's when the ACR was introduced that cost more than $1200.... What was Bushmaster supposed to do, cut their own dick off? That said, the pricing they did come out with was completely unreasonable. Not buy the design? |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 12:46:21 AM
Originally Posted By Razoreye:
Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
Originally Posted By Socomike:
At 1200 dollars these things would fly off the shelves the way they sit now. 1,000 or sub 1,000 you would not be able to keep them in stock. The whole letdown from the original release and the slap in the nuts when the price was announced was quite the F-up on bushmasters part but at a price point of 1,000 I would buy one. Edit: Id still rather have a well equipped scar or high end AR than any ACR. A lot of people don't understand why ACR's didn't cost $1200...... If Bushmaster had sold them for that much it would have completely fucked the pricing structure on their existing line of AR's. There were plenty of Bushmaster AR's when the ACR was introduced that cost more than $1200.... What was Bushmaster supposed to do, cut their own dick off? That said, the pricing they did come out with was completely unreasonable. Not buy the design? If you want to be butt-hurt about the price, take it up with Magpul-they were the ones who came up with the initial pricing and then sold the design on. Maybe they had unrealistic expectations of what the finished product was, or more likely they had more realistic profit goals for the rifle.... either way, they chose to not be involved with the firearms manufacturing business and the situation is what it is. I don't believe for a minute though that an ACR costs more to produce than an AR variant. In fact, if I were running Bushmaster and I had engineers crunching the numbers I would fire the guy that came to my desk and told me that a plastic injection molded gun that needs no significant secondary operations to complete would cost more than an AR. Some of the bespoke parts like the barrel retaining mechanism are more expensive than what an AR needs, but for the most part the gun is going to be cheaper to produce than the AR. Especially with Magpul supplying the plastic parts, which is the rumor. |
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Curdmugeon45
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Posted: 9/2/2011 3:06:12 AM
Originally Posted By WesJanson:
Originally Posted By Curdmugeon45:
Let me get this straight: The Masada was supposed to come out at a price point to compete with expensive AR rifles, right? Yet it came out at the same price point as a 16S, but nowhere near close to the quality, yes? So, even if they were to offer it at, say, $900 - $1100, what would be my main motivation to pick up Bushmaster's little bastard over a Sig 516, Ruger SR556, or a Sig 556 SWAT Patrol, all much better rifles for the price, IMHO. /shrugs Non-story in my book. Wake me up when they release the honest to god Masada at the price point they originally mentioned. I hate to break the news to you, but the 516, SR556, and 556 SWAT are all essentially hobby-grade plinkers. None of them are designed or built to last through serious, heavy long-term use. They're fine for people who want to go plinking on the range from time to time, but I wouldn't touch any of them for use overseas, by SWAT, or even frequent 3-gun competition.
Because the ACR is for the uber elite Tier 1 personnel? Yeah... |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 3:30:19 AM
Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
Originally Posted By Razoreye:
Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
Originally Posted By Socomike:
At 1200 dollars these things would fly off the shelves the way they sit now. 1,000 or sub 1,000 you would not be able to keep them in stock. The whole letdown from the original release and the slap in the nuts when the price was announced was quite the F-up on bushmasters part but at a price point of 1,000 I would buy one. Edit: Id still rather have a well equipped scar or high end AR than any ACR. A lot of people don't understand why ACR's didn't cost $1200...... If Bushmaster had sold them for that much it would have completely fucked the pricing structure on their existing line of AR's. There were plenty of Bushmaster AR's when the ACR was introduced that cost more than $1200.... What was Bushmaster supposed to do, cut their own dick off? That said, the pricing they did come out with was completely unreasonable. Not buy the design? If you want to be butt-hurt about the price, take it up with Magpul-they were the ones who came up with the initial pricing and then sold the design on. Maybe they had unrealistic expectations of what the finished product was, or more likely they had more realistic profit goals for the rifle.... either way, they chose to not be involved with the firearms manufacturing business and the situation is what it is. I don't believe for a minute though that an ACR costs more to produce than an AR variant. In fact, if I were running Bushmaster and I had engineers crunching the numbers I would fire the guy that came to my desk and told me that a plastic injection molded gun that needs no significant secondary operations to complete would cost more than an AR. Some of the bespoke parts like the barrel retaining mechanism are more expensive than what an AR needs, but for the most part the gun is going to be cheaper to produce than the AR. Especially with Magpul supplying the plastic parts, which is the rumor. My point was - they already cut their own dicks off by pricing it way above what it should be. I know I'm not an expert but I don't see anything on that rifle that is much more than an AR... just like you said, right? They already have the machinery, they bought the design, what more do they have to tack on? You suggest they didn't want to compete with their own ARs... okay I'll buy that. BUT with the noted fanboi support and potential to corner that unique market, why not price it aggressively with their ARs? Hell drop their ARs a little to entice more sales too. Butt hurt? Nah, saved me some coin. I wasn't even disappointed. I simply wrote them off. Hell, I don't care much for Magpul anymore either. I know they handed it off but that was their choice too. I still like their stocks.  |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 3:58:50 AM
Originally Posted By LIONHART:
Recently there's been rumors floating around about Busmaster's ACR, and a revised model that may be coming out. IMO, and after owning one, there's no doubt that the ACR needs tweaking. I don't think there's any question that a revised model will eventually show up. Whether or not this will happen next month or in October remains unseen. With that said, I was given this information earlier surronding the rumor. Unconfirmed chatter supposedly from a reliable source within the industry is hinting that there is a vastly improved ACR called version 2 is coming out, possibly not made by Bushmaster and possibly only available to .Mil / Leo etc. So either Bushmaster is discontinuing the ACR for the public as we know it and Remington or someone else is turning out a revised ACR that will be unobtainable or Bushmaster will continue the current ACR production which will look like crap compared to the one we can't have. Then there is talk about major issues with the ACR concerning the selector switch / possible recall. Finally there is some talk about Magpul or someone else finally producing and releasing the Massada. Who knows.Rumor is that something big will go public concerning the ACR around Sept / Oct.
UPDATE: A member here has stated that he saw an ad on TOS for the Magpul Masada. Interestingly enough, Bushmaster's site is down. The ad has since disappeared. It would appear that something is happening. A bunch of us fell for it the first time, I, for one will not be in the 2nd time again, crowd. Pass. Thankyouverymuch. |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 4:11:14 AM
...when you say "Masada"...you mean a real 7.62X51 battle rifle made by Magpul themselves right?
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Posted: 9/2/2011 4:38:23 AM
Originally Posted By mp137:
...when you say "Masada"...you mean a real 7.62X51 battle rifle made by Magpul themselves right? ...yea...put me down for one please! Sweet Lord, 32 posts in a decade... you just used up like 4 months worth of posts! 
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Posted: 9/2/2011 4:41:52 AM
Can't say that I give a shit. I remember when the Masada was announced and everyone was fapping so hard their dicks were raw. Then it took forever for anything to come of it. Then when it came out it was over priced and underwhelming. Fuck it, I'll spend my money on other, better platforms.
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Posted: 9/2/2011 8:24:49 AM
Beretta ARX160 is going to take a dump on their hopes and dreams of having the ACR being the best available 5.56/223 rifle.
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Posted: 9/2/2011 8:33:27 AM
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If the bold is true, then why should we care? Just because its le/mil only doesn't mean we wouldn't be able to get them. Plenty of PD's won't want to mess with FA versions so semi's will be available. It may be hard to find a dealer that will sell it to you, but they will be out their. Meh, I'm not impressed with a $2,500 Masada. If/when they hit $1,000, someone alert the Bat signal. A comparably equipped AR runs about $1500-$1700 bucks. That's the price sweet spot IMO. |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 8:50:46 AM
Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
Originally Posted By Razoreye:
Originally Posted By TheOtherDave:
Originally Posted By Socomike:
At 1200 dollars these things would fly off the shelves the way they sit now. 1,000 or sub 1,000 you would not be able to keep them in stock. The whole letdown from the original release and the slap in the nuts when the price was announced was quite the F-up on bushmasters part but at a price point of 1,000 I would buy one. Edit: Id still rather have a well equipped scar or high end AR than any ACR. A lot of people don't understand why ACR's didn't cost $1200...... If Bushmaster had sold them for that much it would have completely fucked the pricing structure on their existing line of AR's. There were plenty of Bushmaster AR's when the ACR was introduced that cost more than $1200.... What was Bushmaster supposed to do, cut their own dick off? That said, the pricing they did come out with was completely unreasonable. Not buy the design? If you want to be butt-hurt about the price, take it up with Magpul-they were the ones who came up with the initial pricing and then sold the design on. Maybe they had unrealistic expectations of what the finished product was, or more likely they had more realistic profit goals for the rifle.... either way, they chose to not be involved with the firearms manufacturing business and the situation is what it is. I don't believe for a minute though that an ACR costs more to produce than an AR variant. In fact, if I were running Bushmaster and I had engineers crunching the numbers I would fire the guy that came to my desk and told me that a plastic injection molded gun that needs no significant secondary operations to complete would cost more than an AR. Some of the bespoke parts like the barrel retaining mechanism are more expensive than what an AR needs, but for the most part the gun is going to be cheaper to produce than the AR. Especially with Magpul supplying the plastic parts, which is the rumor. True, but there are NRE (Non-Recurring Engineering) costs. BM didn't have to do any development on the AR, just copy the design. Having said that, they fucked themselves. People are willing to pay premium prices for a premium product (see: FN SCAR). They are NOT willing to pay a premium price for a product that is essentially under development. |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 8:51:58 AM
Originally Posted By zulthor:
Beretta ARX160 is going to take a dump on their hopes and dreams of having the ACR being the best available 5.56/223 rifle. Vaporware and promises. I bet it's overpriced and underdeveloped too. |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 8:56:27 AM
Know what I learned from the Masada incident?
That I like AR-15s. A lot. |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 9:09:06 AM
Originally Posted By Orbital-Burn: Originally Posted By Buliwyf: MS3 is supposed to be out soon. Precision rifle DVD is due any minute now. Put me down for both of those. No idea what else they are up to, but after the Masada chaos, I don't blame them for trying to stay mum about these things. The Bushmaster Masada? No thanks. That ship has sailed. Magpul made it pretty clear that the Masada was a huge gamble. Maybe Shrubby should have paid attention and put the better model out only, at a lower price, and skipped the cheaper version completely. I think a custom BCM AR works better for me anyways. And won't cost more than a LMT .308 either. MS3 was supposed to be out soon for the past 2 years. Believe it when I see it on a store's shelf. Yep. I love Magpul's products, but they consistently over promise and under deliver. |
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TexasDoubleTap
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Posted: 9/2/2011 9:36:39 AM
G.O.P. needs to look into hiring Magpul to run their campaign.
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Curdmugeon45
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Posted: 9/2/2011 3:00:01 PM
Originally Posted By Strongbow:
Originally Posted By tyman:
Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Originally Posted By tyman:
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If the bold is true, then why should we care? Just because its le/mil only doesn't mean we wouldn't be able to get them. Plenty of PD's won't want to mess with FA versions so semi's will be available. It may be hard to find a dealer that will sell it to you, but they will be out their. Meh, I'm not impressed with a $2,500 Masada. If/when they hit $1,000, someone alert the Bat signal. A comparably equipped AR runs about $1500-$1700 bucks. That's the price sweet spot IMO. I disagree. Define "comparably equipped AR". There really isn't an exact comparison in my opinion, but that's not a good thing either. |
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