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Posted: 8/25/2011 7:08:07 AM
The federal government is moving to crack down on a bizarre form of food-stamp fraud that's flushing away taxpayer dollars.

The scam is called "water dumping." It works as follows: Food stamp recipients use their benefits to purchase water bottles and from there promptly dump the water out and redeem the bottles for cash.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/24/federal-government-tries-to-stop-food-stamp-water-dumping-fraud/
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Posted: 8/25/2011 7:13:09 AM
End welfare.


Problem solved.
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Posted: 8/25/2011 7:13:29 AM
I should believe that this opportunity these individuals have to do this is not the result of a taxpayer supported and guaranteed system, right?
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Posted: 8/25/2011 7:15:02 AM
What the fuck?
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Posted: 8/25/2011 7:17:28 AM

Originally Posted By efpeter:
End welfare.


Problem solved.

+1 Let it go back to private organizations and the church where it should be.
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Posted: 8/25/2011 7:19:23 AM
Originally Posted By efpeter:
End welfare.


Problem solved.


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Posted: 8/25/2011 7:19:39 AM
Originally Posted By madmathew:

Originally Posted By efpeter:
End welfare.


Problem solved.

+1 Let it go back to private organizations and the church where it should be.


More likely liberals' solution: Just let them buy beer with food stamps.

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Posted: 8/25/2011 7:21:03 AM
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Originally Posted By madmathew:

Originally Posted By efpeter:
End welfare.


Problem solved.

+1 Let it go back to private organizations and the church where it should be.


More likely liberals' solution: Just let them buy beer with food stamps.



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What the hell! Around these parts the Paki convience stores give you $.50 on the dollar for your Obama bonus buck food coupons. No need buy something and then return it.
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Posted: 8/25/2011 7:29:15 AM
you only get like 5 cents a bottle.

the average 24 pack costs about $4.00

I'm not math wiz but...

5 x 24 = 120 or $1.20

You spend $4.00 of food stamp money to get a $1.20 in cash?

In who's fucking mind does that make sense?
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Posted: 8/25/2011 7:30:27 AM
So they're just getting back the 5 cent deposit? Seems like it would not be worth the effort.
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Posted: 8/25/2011 7:31:13 AM

Originally Posted By Assault-Rifle-City:
you only get like 5 cents a bottle.

the average 24 pack costs about $4.00

I'm not math wiz but...

5 x 24 = 120 or $1.20

You spend $4.00 of food stamp money to get a $1.20 in cash?

In who's fucking mind does that make sense?

Someone who is dependent on food stamps for most of their adult lives.
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Posted: 8/25/2011 7:32:22 AM

Originally Posted By Assault-Rifle-City:
you only get like 5 cents a bottle.

the average 24 pack costs about $4.00

I'm not math wiz but...

5 x 24 = 120 or $1.20

You spend $4.00 of food stamp money to get a $1.20 in cash?

In who's fucking mind does that make sense?

People who make bad economic decisions; i.e., people on welfare.
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Posted: 8/25/2011 7:37:44 AM
Originally Posted By Assault-Rifle-City:
you only get like 5 cents a bottle.

the average 24 pack costs about $4.00

I'm not math wiz but...

5 x 24 = 120 or $1.20

You spend $4.00 of food stamp money to get a $1.20 in cash?

In who's fucking mind does that make sense?



It makes sense to these leeches who paid NOTHING for the food stamps to begin with so in their parasitic, little minds they got $1.20 cash for alcohol, cigs and dope for FREE courtesy of tax paying chumps like you and me
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Posted: 8/25/2011 7:39:29 AM
Originally Posted By Assault-Rifle-City:
you only get like 5 cents a bottle.

the average 24 pack costs about $4.00

I'm not math wiz but...

5 x 24 = 120 or $1.20

You spend $4.00 of food stamp money to get a $1.20 in cash?

In who's fucking mind does that make sense?


But they didn't spend the $4. We did. So they made $1.20 for just a few minutes of work. $1.20 will buy a can or two of Steele Reserve.

Again, end welfare.
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Posted: 8/25/2011 7:40:39 AM
Originally Posted By Makarov:
Originally Posted By Assault-Rifle-City:
you only get like 5 cents a bottle.

the average 24 pack costs about $4.00

I'm not math wiz but...

5 x 24 = 120 or $1.20

You spend $4.00 of food stamp money to get a $1.20 in cash?

In who's fucking mind does that make sense?



It makes sense to these leeches who paid NOTHING for the food stamps to begin with so in their parasitic, little minds they got $1.20 cash for alcohol, cigs and dope for FREE courtesy of tax paying chumps like you and me


Nailed it.
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Posted: 8/25/2011 7:45:16 AM
It gets worse.

In Michigan, soda bottle/can deposit is 10¢ each. The leeches by a cases of the cheapest stuff, usually store brand cans, then them & their herd of welplings crack them open right in the parking lot.

I watched it happen. The obese queen & her brood did right in the handicap parking space. They just dumped the soda right onto the pavement right near the store entrance. They didn't even have the courtesy to empty the cans into a drain. Ya, driving an Excalade too.
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Posted: 8/25/2011 7:47:18 AM
Originally Posted By Makarov:
Originally Posted By Assault-Rifle-City:
you only get like 5 cents a bottle.

the average 24 pack costs about $4.00

I'm not math wiz but...

5 x 24 = 120 or $1.20

You spend $4.00 of food stamp money to get a $1.20 in cash?

In who's fucking mind does that make sense?



It makes sense to these leeches who paid NOTHING for the food stamps to begin with so in their parasitic, little minds they got $1.20 cash for alcohol, cigs and dope for FREE courtesy of tax paying chumps like you and me


Even that doesn't make sense. You could sell you're "benefits at like 85% of the value for cash and make a shitload of money.

Lets say you get $250 of food stamps, and sell them to someone for $200, that's better than getting like 30% of the value and having to go through the trouble of the whole water scheme...
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I originally heard about this in another thread. I thought it was a joke.

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Posted: 8/25/2011 8:02:00 AM

Originally Posted By Assault-Rifle-City:
you only get like 5 cents a bottle.

the average 24 pack costs about $4.00

I'm not math wiz but...

5 x 24 = 120 or $1.20

You spend $4.00 of food stamp money to get a $1.20 in cash?

In who's fucking mind does that make sense?


It makes perfect sense. $4.00 of worthless stamps turns into $1.20 in spendable cash.


It is illegal to resell food purchased with food stamps, so they are making a profit legally.
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Posted: 8/25/2011 8:03:27 AM

Originally Posted By Assault-Rifle-City:
Originally Posted By Makarov:
Originally Posted By Assault-Rifle-City:
Even that doesn't make sense. You could sell you're "benefits at like 85% of the value for cash and make a shitload of money.

Lets say you get $250 of food stamps, and sell them to someone for $200, that's better than getting like 30% of the value and having to go through the trouble of the whole water scheme...

That would be illegal.
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Posted: 8/25/2011 8:05:57 AM
Wes hould give the bum who thought of this a job.
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Posted: 8/25/2011 8:09:04 AM

Originally Posted By efpeter:

Originally Posted By Assault-Rifle-City:
Originally Posted By Makarov:
Originally Posted By Assault-Rifle-City:
Even that doesn't make sense. You could sell you're "benefits at like 85% of the value for cash and make a shitload of money.

Lets say you get $250 of food stamps, and sell them to someone for $200, that's better than getting like 30% of the value and having to go through the trouble of the whole water scheme...

That would be illegal.

There is then also someone who might be willing to turn you in after your approach them. The simple act of finding someone willing to participate is more work than they are really willing to do, anyway.
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Posted: 8/25/2011 8:10:47 AM
Water is free from a goddamn tap, food stamps have no business paying for fucking WATER.
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Posted: 8/25/2011 8:11:06 AM
If the government does that then the democrats are going to lose a lot of their voting base
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Posted: 8/25/2011 8:11:40 AM
Originally Posted By efpeter:

Originally Posted By Assault-Rifle-City:
Originally Posted By Makarov:
Originally Posted By Assault-Rifle-City:
Even that doesn't make sense. You could sell you're "benefits at like 85% of the value for cash and make a shitload of money.

Lets say you get $250 of food stamps, and sell them to someone for $200, that's better than getting like 30% of the value and having to go through the trouble of the whole water scheme...

That would be illegal.


This is definitely a case of right and wrong vs the law. They don't mesh so well in this case.
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Water is free from a goddamn tap, food stamps have no business paying for fucking WATER.


You use water to make bread! and cook pasta! If you're gonna have a food stamps system it should cover water.
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If only they would use such ingenuity to find a job...
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Posted: 8/25/2011 8:18:09 AM
Originally Posted By Assault-Rifle-City:
you only get like 5 cents a bottle.

the average 24 pack costs about $4.00

I'm not math wiz but...

5 x 24 = 120 or $1.20

You spend $4.00 of food stamp money to get a $1.20 in cash?

In who's fucking mind does that make sense?


Someone who wanted to liquidate the food stamps for cash.
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Originally Posted By Sheddy:
Originally Posted By gonzo_beyondo:
Water is free from a goddamn tap, food stamps have no business paying for fucking WATER.


You use water to make bread! and cook pasta! If you're gonna have a food stamps system it should cover water.

You don't have a goddamn SINK?
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Posted: 8/25/2011 8:23:09 AM
Originally Posted By Assault-Rifle-City:
you only get like 5 cents a bottle.

the average 24 pack costs about $4.00

I'm not math wiz but...

5 x 24 = 120 or $1.20

You spend $4.00 of food stamp money to get a $1.20 in cash?

In who's fucking mind does that make sense?


They have a100 percent profit.

They didn't pay anything to get the $1.20.

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The fuck???

I am NEVER UNamazed how scumbags come up with shit like this, I could never think shit like this up.
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Posted: 8/25/2011 8:24:04 AM
Originally Posted By Assault-Rifle-City:
you only get like 5 cents a bottle.

the average 24 pack costs about $4.00

I'm not math wiz but...

5 x 24 = 120 or $1.20

You spend $4.00 of food stamp money to get a $1.20 in cash?

In who's fucking mind does that make sense?


It's doesn't cost them anything, it isn't their money, they don't care.
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Don't give them food stamps at all. If you want to feed people, distribute welfare-grade food from a government run warehouse. The present system practically begs to be abused.
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Posted: 8/25/2011 8:29:02 AM
Originally Posted By maxell27:
The federal government is moving to crack down on a bizarre form of food-stamp fraud that's flushing away taxpayer dollars.

The scam is called "water dumping." It works as follows: Food stamp recipients use their benefits to purchase water bottles and from there promptly dump the water out and redeem the bottles for cash.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/24/federal-government-tries-to-stop-food-stamp-water-dumping-fraud/


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Originally Posted By Assault-Rifle-City:
you only get like 5 cents a bottle.

the average 24 pack costs about $4.00

I'm not math wiz but...

5 x 24 = 120 or $1.20

You spend $4.00 of food stamp money to get a $1.20 in cash?

In who's fucking mind does that make sense?


$4 that you have to spend on food that you don't need or want (and is free to you anyway), vs. $1.20 that can be spent on booze, cigarettes, crack, etc?

Seems like a no brainer to me.
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Originally Posted By caexpat:
Originally Posted By maxell27:
The federal government is moving to crack down on a bizarre form of food-stamp fraud that's flushing away taxpayer dollars.

The scam is called "water dumping." It works as follows: Food stamp recipients use their benefits to purchase water bottles and from there promptly dump the water out and redeem the bottles for cash.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/24/federal-government-tries-to-stop-food-stamp-water-dumping-fraud/


YOU HATE THE POOR, THE WEAK, AND THE STARVING!





you forgot to mention he's a racist.

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Originally Posted By Assault-Rifle-City:
you only get like 5 cents a bottle.

the average 24 pack costs about $4.00

I'm not math wiz but...

5 x 24 = 120 or $1.20

You spend $4.00 of food stamp money to get a $1.20 in cash?

In who's fucking mind does that make sense?


They have a100 percent profit.

They didn't pay anything to get the $1.20.



I get that, but that's the stupidest money laundering scheme ever. There a lot better ways to make a buck without working.

Coupon fraud is real easy, and can net a lot more money than $1.20.
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Food stamps should be done away with completely. Instead, you get a weekly allotment of basic staples –– flour, sugar, butter, dry beans, peanut butter, cheese, in-season fruit and vegetables (or canned, whichever is cheaper), etc. You won't starve, but you won't love it either. And you'll actually have to learn how to freakin' cook for yourself.

My tax dollars going to buy steaks, frozen pizza, fancy bakery cakes, and bottled water is freakin' bullshit.
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So they're just getting back the 5 cent deposit? Seems like it would not be worth the effort.


It isn't like trying to hold down a full time job or anything.

How much is food stamps? Let's say $200 A case of water is $4 That's 50 cases of water, times $1.20 = $60 in cash, free and clear. You can get your smoke on for a day or two with $60, I'd imagine.
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Yep, if you get something for free that is not money, there is likely a simple way to turn it into money.
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Originally Posted By Assault-Rifle-City:
you only get like 5 cents a bottle.

the average 24 pack costs about $4.00

I'm not math wiz but...

5 x 24 = 120 or $1.20

You spend $4.00 of food stamp money to get a $1.20 in cash?

In who's fucking mind does that make sense?


There's a reason they're poor.
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Originally Posted By caexpat:
Originally Posted By Assault-Rifle-City:
you only get like 5 cents a bottle.

the average 24 pack costs about $4.00

I'm not math wiz but...

5 x 24 = 120 or $1.20

You spend $4.00 of food stamp money to get a $1.20 in cash?

In who's fucking mind does that make sense?


$4 that you have to spend on food that you don't need or want (and is free to you anyway), vs. $1.20 that can be spent on booze, cigarettes, crack, etc?

Seems like a no brainer to me.


Having worked at wal mart for a while before the Army, I assure you, after they pay for prime rib, lobster, cheetos "super fructose sugary shit" soda and XXXL marshmallows, they still have an impressive wad of "benjamins" to buy the booze, smokes, and crack. I seen't it, first hand.
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Originally Posted By gonzo_beyondo:
Water is free from a goddamn tap, food stamps have no business paying for fucking WATER.


You use water to make bread! and cook pasta! If you're gonna have a food stamps system it should cover water.


You can get water from the tap.

Quit covering the container deposit with food stamps.
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I have heard the going rate on food stamp fraud is .50 on the dollar. But then loaning your card and pin out is riskier then "dumping" additionally it requires a buyer. This is a instant way to generate cash. Besides as others have pointed out, it isn't their money. That which we obtain too easily we esteem too lightly.
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Originally Posted By caexpat:
Originally Posted By maxell27:
The federal government is moving to crack down on a bizarre form of food-stamp fraud that's flushing away taxpayer dollars.

The scam is called "water dumping." It works as follows: Food stamp recipients use their benefits to purchase water bottles and from there promptly dump the water out and redeem the bottles for cash.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/24/federal-government-tries-to-stop-food-stamp-water-dumping-fraud/


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Originally Posted By Assault-Rifle-City:
you only get like 5 cents a bottle.

the average 24 pack costs about $4.00

I'm not math wiz but...

5 x 24 = 120 or $1.20

You spend $4.00 of food stamp money to get a $1.20 in cash?

In who's fucking mind does that make sense?




Food stamps = FREE

FREE x dumping bottles = $1.20


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