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 ecgRN
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Posted: 8/11/2011 5:27:53 PM
That's some serious CSI shit right there......excellent. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 5:28:42 PM
[Last Edit: 8/11/2011 5:33:28 PM by jblomenberg16]
After looking at it...looks like the EOTech is just badly mangled from the wreck, and the perspective actually makes it look backwards. Look at the relative size compared to the ejection port and brass deflector. As mfingar said...the adjustment screws are on the right side. One is visible, the other should be where the large divot is out of the shroud, just above where the mounting screw goes through shroud and then into body.
Like others have said, staged shot is clearly staged. The upper and lower probably still had the carrier in it, and the barrel probably sheered off on impact. The plastic stock and grip were removed / broke off on impact. It looks like part of the reciever extension is still there, as well as the grip screw. The bolt and carrier may have been removed, or may have been still in the reciever extension. Not sure if the gun would have been kept "ready" with bolt closed, or if maybe it was jarred open in the wreck. The rope through it is probably how they were carrying it around, either as a toy, or as a way to keep track of the scrap metal that is of value. ETA: Looks like mfingar posted his images as I was typiing...exactly what I was getting at. Wow you guys are fast! |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 5:29:11 PM
Originally Posted By markfall:
Originally Posted By TheYellowThing:
Nah, they were unfired rounds. Even better.
Originally Posted By Garand_Shooter:
Originally Posted By Dehammer:
Originally Posted By torstin:
ooh..is there a conspiracy theory here somewhere? Obvious conspiracy to fake a photo. Somebody went through great efforts to stage it for a purpose. Photo credit is to an AP photographer with an Afghan name. First photos from crash site= big $$$$$. Lack of journalistic integrity from a regional photographer+ desire for money= staged shot to get the most dramtic photo to sell. Not unlike the picture of the lady in Iraq holding the "bullets" that were shot at her home. Empty brass photo comes to mind. there arent meny HK weapons in use, none by conventional forces. it is obviously from the crash site. The question is why any weapon parts were left behind. we always had to recover that shit. I could rebuild that rifle the lower is still good. |
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Lester_Burnham
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Posted: 8/11/2011 5:30:39 PM
but....but it's on there backwards. I'm gonna set the building on fire.
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BigDozer66
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Posted: 8/11/2011 5:30:40 PM
[Last Edit: 8/11/2011 5:34:14 PM by BigDozer66]
Originally Posted By TheYellowThing:
Originally Posted By mfingar:
Originally Posted By USMS2011:
Originally Posted By itstock:
Originally Posted By 7mm-08:
Broken weapon looks big because it takes a BADASS MOTHERFUCKER to tote one in those mountains. 
RIP 
As for the gun part looking big...its just the optical illusion of shooting a wide angle lens with the foreground close to the lens...just like the silly dog pictures. 7mm And the explanation for the backwards eotech and rope through the barrel and out the ejection port??? Is that tier one shit? My guess is the Eotech is perhaps twisted? Or maybe the locals stuck it on there. But the wide angle lens is correct for why it looks big. Tragic photo, indeed. The EOTech is badly dented, not backwards. The hole in the shroud for the elevation screw is clearly visible on the side facing the camera (as it should be) I see it now. The dent makes it look like the battery compartment is to the rear. The battery compartment is, actually, sheared/snapped off. 
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Chaingun
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Posted: 8/11/2011 5:31:37 PM
Someone was messing with the rifle
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Posted: 8/11/2011 5:32:19 PM
A picture is worth, as they say, a thousand all caps large font words. |
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skich
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Posted: 8/11/2011 5:33:08 PM
I swear some guys here are dense. It's scavenged parts nothing more. Some of you guys are wound a little tight...
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BigDozer66
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Posted: 8/11/2011 5:33:37 PM
Originally Posted By TheYellowThing:
You did that for us?????!!! How else would some of these knuckleheads understand if he didn't? 
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Posted: 8/11/2011 5:34:51 PM
Rope through it because it was too hot to handle when the rope was first attached?
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WindRiver78
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Posted: 8/11/2011 5:41:02 PM
[Last Edit: 8/11/2011 5:42:20 PM by WindRiver78]
Originally Posted By TheRX7Project:
STOP POSTING THAT THE OPTIC WAS BACKWARDS. THIS HAS BEEN PROVEN WRONG. The battery compartment is sheared off, making it appear that way. Whoa, slow it down there, turbo. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 5:43:48 PM
whats the model number? MPO? The short barrels + eotech wouldent be my first choice in afghanistan. |
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Clockwork138
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Posted: 8/11/2011 5:50:29 PM
Originally Posted By WindRiver78: Whoa, slow it down there, turbo. Just because the LaRue guy says it, its fact now? Sure looks backwards to me. Not sure if serious... But if you are... you can clearly see the elevation and windage adjustment screws which ARE on the right sight of an EOTech. |
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mgwantob
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Posted: 8/11/2011 5:56:01 PM
The rifle in the pic sustained hard trauma to break off the barrel. Here is a pic I took in Iraq for an M4/203 which burned in a blown out 1151 HMMWV. Note that the receiver and ACOG melted away, but the bolt remained locked into the barrel.
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Strykewolf
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Posted: 8/11/2011 5:56:16 PM
Originally Posted By BigDozer66:
Originally Posted By TheYellowThing:
You did that for us?????!!! How else would some of these knuckleheads understand if he didn't?
BigDozer66 I sometimes resemble that remark. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 5:57:24 PM
Here is video from the site, doesn't look backwards from this view:
Screen Capture:
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Beltfedleadhead
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Posted: 8/11/2011 5:58:43 PM
Originally Posted By FightingHellfish:
Originally Posted By Garand_Shooter:
Originally Posted By AR15fan:
Originally Posted By microsuck1:
backwards optic and rope through the receiver does not compute. Plus the aluminum receivers would have melted before the steel brl. Any scrap metal left unguarded in Afghanistan will be scavanged up faster than a new female poster gets 87 leg humpers on this website. That is why the steel is all gone- the aluminum was being scavanged. kids probably had a few more hunks on that rope as well to carry it. That is also why the "wreckage" is laying on a piece of wood that was recently cut and is undamaged otherwise. Odds are the photographer gave the kids scavanging the metal a few Afghani to let him take some pics, and layed it out. +1 I've seen Afghan kids dart around moving US armored vehicles while the gunner is firing the M2 in order to try to scavenge up empty .50 brass before some other kid gets it. Exactly. Jesus fuck you guys are idiots. You all need to unplug. There is a perfectly reasonable explanation for everything in that photo. Not everything is a fucking conspiracy. Sometimes tragedies happen and there is no man in a black cape to blame. War sucks, and sometimes the bad guys get in a lucky shot. It really sucks, but that's how it works. Here's a test: The next time you cook up some retarded theory, ask yourself, "Does this belong in a b-movie screenplay?" If the answer is "yes", close your fucking mouth before you convince everyone and their brother that you're a complete shit-eating retard. You aren't a tenth as clever as you think you are. |
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Posted: 8/11/2011 8:02:59 PM
Originally Posted By Garand_Shooter:
Originally Posted By Dehammer:
Originally Posted By torstin:
ooh..is there a conspiracy theory here somewhere? Obvious conspiracy to fake a photo. Somebody went through great efforts to stage it for a purpose. Photo credit is to an AP photographer with an Afghan name. First photos from crash site= big $$$$$. Lack of journalistic integrity from a regional photographer+ desire for money= staged shot to get the most dramtic photo to sell. Not unlike the picture of the lady in Iraq holding the "bullets" that were shot at her home. That looks to be the case. I think a lot of these dramatic photos get 'hobbled' together by the cameraman for effect. |
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BigDozer66
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Posted: 8/11/2011 9:58:37 PM
Originally Posted By Strykewolf:
Originally Posted By BigDozer66:
Originally Posted By TheYellowThing:
You did that for us?????!!! How else would some of these knuckleheads understand if he didn't?
BigDozer66 I sometimes resemble that remark. I was ready to say it looked bacwards also but I read the rest of the thread first!
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Colt_sporter
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Posted: 8/11/2011 10:53:21 PM
A whole lotta stupid going on here...
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Posted: 8/11/2011 11:06:33 PM
It should also be pointed out that the pile of plastic water bottles in the background suggests that people have been visiting the crash site for a while (and presumably not the SAR team either, unless it's SOP to dump trash behind when you leave).
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flatfender
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Posted: 8/11/2011 11:09:43 PM
[Last Edit: 8/11/2011 11:10:58 PM by flatfender]
Here's a better pic I found over on /k/ (4chan)
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Posted: 8/11/2011 11:30:19 PM
At is not e site.
A chinook has hundreds of pounds of kevlar. All 6 blades, the robinson fuel tank, the fuel cells........ After one burns that shit is all over the place. I see none. I have burned in place 2 hooks and been to burned hooks post accident. At looks nothing like a crash site from any hook ive ever seen. If it didnt burn there would be shit everywhere. There are 5 transmissions and 2 engines. All we see is one hk reciever and some ash. Im telling you thats not it. |
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TexasRifleman1985
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Posted: 8/11/2011 11:47:01 PM
[Last Edit: 8/11/2011 11:48:20 PM by TexasRifleman1985]
Originally Posted By regalrocket:
At is not e site. A chinook has hundreds of pounds of kevlar. All 6 blades, the robinson fuel tank, the fuel cells........ After one burns that shit is all over the place. I see none. I have burned in place 2 hooks and been to burned hooks post accident. At looks nothing like a crash site from any hook ive ever seen. If it didnt burn there would be shit everywhere. There are 5 transmissions and 2 engines. All we see is one hk reciever and some ash. Im telling you thats not it. 
When choppers go down, shit can go flying all over the fucking place. Then some Afghan kid starts grabbing shit for scrap. Then, back at the kids camp, this photo is taken. TR85. |
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dizkoboro
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Posted: 8/12/2011 2:02:30 AM
Originally Posted By regalrocket:
At is not e site. A chinook has hundreds of pounds of kevlar. All 6 blades, the robinson fuel tank, the fuel cells........ After one burns that shit is all over the place. I see none. I have burned in place 2 hooks and been to burned hooks post accident. At looks nothing like a crash site from any hook ive ever seen. If it didnt burn there would be shit everywhere. There are 5 transmissions and 2 engines. All we see is one hk reciever and some ash. Im telling you thats not it.  |
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